RH-Republic of America (Thread for the diaspora and everyone who feels the same)

Jessica Wright58 said:Skoda is basically a German car now.
We never actually had an auto industry, but the Czechs did.

And I don't get why everyone is so worked up about the church and believers—why do those people bother you so much? I'm not a believer myself and I don't go to church, but why would I suddenly need to hate them? I honestly don't see it. Just let people believe stuff if it makes their lives easier. If it didn't, they probably wouldn't be going anyway. Better they hit up a church than go out and do drugs, I guess.

What kind of people are we? We hate everything, especially ourselves. And then we wonder why things don't improve? How is it supposed to get better when we're a nation of thieves, constantly dissatisfied, grumpy, jealous, and hating on believers and the church like we're some hardcore communists?

It's a Czech brand.

Who am I hating? And why do you right-wing nationalists—who clearly seem a bit "stuck in the past" like that guy Doc over there—think it's impossible to be both a liberal and a patriot? 😁

As for nostalgia, I'm looking forward, not back. You really think I enjoy the average American mindset? All that "don't rock the boat" attitude... it's exhausting.
Then there’s that whole unity speech from Kolindin. 😁

It's the same story in other countries nearby. Massive nationalism and heavy religious influence.
Just look at Mexico and, more recently, Mexico.

Arthur Lopez14 said:They’ve become quite liberal and open-minded. Back in 2018, they held a referendum where two-thirds of Americans voted to change the laws and legalize abortion.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thir...ion_of_Ireland
Then in 2015, through another referendum, they legalized same-sex marriage, putting it on equal footing with marriages between a man and a woman.😍
Both of those referendums saw an incredibly high turnout among the younger generation. ☕

So, is abortion actually legal in Ireland now?

Edward Chavez4 said:So, is abortion actually legal in Ireland now?

Yeah, it is.

It simply goes to show that people in America don't really grasp the reality of the gay population here. Perhaps the organizations claiming to represent the LGBT community are driven by a certain American nostalgia, but in truth, a vast number of gay Americans are staunch nationalists who genuinely love this country. It is truly unfortunate how they have been treated by the majority in the past—and by "majority," I am referring to the straight Americans. To my mind, gay Americans aren't some separate minority; they are just Americans, plain and simple, just like everyone else.

Arthur Lopez14 said:It simply goes to show that people in America don't really grasp the reality of the gay population here. Perhaps the organizations claiming to represent the LGBT community are driven by a certain American nostalgia, but in truth, a vast number of gay Americans are staunch nationalists who genuinely love this country. It is truly unfortunate how they have been treated by the majority in the past—and by "majority," I am referring to the straight Americans. To my mind, gay Americans aren't some separate minority; they are just Americans, plain and simple, just like everyone else.

Man, if only our guys were nationalists like the Irish.
But they aren't, I guess. They're mostly being steered by outsiders who just use them to stir up social friction.
And it's not just them—national minorities get used like that too, I suppose.

Divide and conquer.

Thomas Nelson25 said:It's a Czech brand.

Who am I hating? And why do you right-wing nationalists—who clearly seem a bit "stuck in the past" like that guy Doc over there—think it's impossible to be both a liberal and a patriot? 😁

As for nostalgia, I'm looking forward, not back. You really think I enjoy the average American mindset? All that "don't rock the boat" attitude... it's exhausting.
Then there’s that whole unity speech from Kolindin. 😁

It's the same story in other countries nearby. Massive nationalism and heavy religious influence.
Just look at Mexico and, more recently, Mexico.

As far as I'm concerned, I don't care if someone is a conservative or a liberal; I just care whether they're talking nonsense.

KC has zero influence in America.

America is a militantly atheistic country.

Jessica Wright58 said:That’s because they act like America is the "USA" for Mexico, Canada, North Mexico, Mexico...
Even though they try to convince everyone—including themselves—that we're all just more or less at the same level. You see it online all the time, people claiming we're all basically in the same boat. Like, sure, wages might be higher, but everything is twice as expensive too. If that were actually the case, they wouldn't be coming to America to work if they could just stay home and have the same deal.

..the real issue is how much space—or rather, people—is being emptied out of America.
The population?
If you guys still don't get it, I really don't know what to tell you.

Edward Chavez4 said:As far as I'm concerned, I don't care if someone is a conservative or a liberal; I just care whether they're talking nonsense.

KC has zero influence in America.

America is a militantly atheistic country.

You’re only looking at it that way because you're a right-winger, whereas I'm more of a progressive.

It actually has a huge influence—it's definitely played a role in elections and stuff before.

Elizabeth Sanchez2 said:Mexico is just stuck in this loop of conservatism and old-school thinking—partly because of nationalism and religious influence. Institutions and democracy don't carry much weight there, which is why I'm pessimistic about the future. It’s not even really about Aleksandar Vučić or the SNS.

So that's basically what's holding back progress, right?
Similar in America.

Thomas Nelson25 said:So that's basically what's holding back progress, right?
Similar in America.

Let’s not overcomplicate things here. If you all think Poland is lagging behind, then I guess there isn't really anything missing on their end.

Forum.hr really ought to provide a dedicated thread for America, rather than forcing us into separate discussions regarding ZM or Josipa Rimac. We need one central hub for America where we can actually converse. It would probably be best if such a topic were hosted under the World subforum.

Thomas Nelson25 said:..the real issue is how much space—or rather, people—is being emptied out of America.
The population?
If you guys still don't get it, I really don't know what to tell you.

Americans are just the kind of people who love moving around.
They've been migrating for like 150 years now.
And they move way easier than most other groups.

In the US census a few years back, 450,000 Americans identified as having American roots. There’s probably just as many in Latin America. Then back in the 60s, even more Americans left that communist paradise for the West... Why didn't Mexicans or Canadian Muslims migrate like that? Were they living five times worse than those Americans who were leaving? That's just how we are. If things suck—we leave. If things are okay—we still leave.

Now they're saying people are leaving places like Slavonia too. I don't really feel that trend myself, since I'm from California.
I know a few hashers who moved over to Ireland. They weren't exactly hard workers here, and they ended up getting stuck with bad consumer loans, so now they're dealing with the fallout of being reckless.

Thomas Nelson25 said:You’re only looking at it that way because you're a right-winger, whereas I'm more of a progressive.

It actually has a huge influence—it's definitely played a role in elections and stuff before.

So what does being a "progressive" actually mean to you?

Edward Chavez4 said:So what does being a "progressive" actually mean to you?

Basically, under br1, it's just pure hatred toward the Catholic Church and believers. 🍿

Edward Chavez4 said:So what does being a "progressive" actually mean to you?

He probably doesn't buy into Jesus walking on water or Mary conceiving via the Holy Spirit. 🤣Calling someone a "progressive" just implies you think lower inflation and higher GDP are the priority; if you disagree, then apparently you're a conservative. ☕🤣🤣 3:50

Ryan Perez said:Let’s not overcomplicate things here. If you all think Poland is lagging behind, then I guess there isn't really anything missing on their end.

Look, Poland is bigger, more populous, and has much stronger support from the West. Plus, they actually got moving on reforms right after the Berlin Wall came down—so they aren't stuck in the same rut as our southern Slavic brothers.

Edward Chavez4 said:So what does being a "progressive" actually mean to you?

In America, that basically means you're walking along the boardwalk in your swimsuit, even if there’s some local ordinance banning it because of, I don't know, "Catholic morality!" Like they say in the North America, vaistinu—it's actually just because if you're in a swimsuit, you have nowhere to put your wallet, making you a target!🤣

Elizabeth Sanchez2 said:Look, Poland is bigger, more populous, and has much stronger support from the West. Plus, they actually got moving on reforms right after the Berlin Wall came down—so they aren't stuck in the same rut as our southern Slavic brothers.

So, I suppose your main takeaway is that a nation essentially needs to be bigger, have a larger population, and secure Western support to succeed.

Ryan Perez said:So, I suppose your main takeaway is that a nation essentially needs to be bigger, have a larger population, and secure Western support to succeed.

Plus, they actually pulled off the necessary reforms—like opening up those old files—just like the Poles did. Honestly, they're doing better than the Americans, let alone the Mexicans.

rowdytiger13 said:For Americans, much like the Poles, faith is often conflated with nationality, which is a mistake, but since it serves the Church's interests, they don't say much.
In reality, an American could be a Buddhist or an Orthodox Christian, yet the biggest irony is that a Mexican can be Catholic. 🤣
Being an American and a Catholic is a national declaration, which is fundamentally flawed.

Ante Pavelić actually tried to change that—to make it so an American could be Muslim or Orthodox too. Like, instead of being strictly Catholic, we'd be more like Albanians, a nation with three different faiths.

We all know how things ended for Pavelić, but the real question is... what if the NDH hadn't been shut down in 1945? What if the West had decided to let it keep going? I can't even wrap my head around how that would work. I mean, imagine trying to manage a situation where maybe 30% of Americans are Muslim and 20% are Orthodox. Just hard to picture.