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Curfew restrictions: Is it legal to leave your house?

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Nathan Bailey6 Nathan Bailey6 Newcomer
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joined Dec 2021
#381 ·
I'm curious—how does domestic travel usually work in other parts of the USA?
Joseph Taylor11 Joseph Taylor11 Active Member
134 messages
joined Oct 2019
#382 ·
fadedranger162 said:Absolutely nothing. All we get from HQ are these endless PDFs detailing who gets which permit. I even tried poking around some news outlets to see if they’d cover this, but apparently, it’s way more "important" to report on the handful of people on ventilators—even when those people are literally telling the media how they're doing themselves—than to care about the thousands of us stuck in different cities waiting for answers. As if nobody outside the immediate area matters. 🙂

They’re just giving us those canned, cookie-cutter responses...
Brandon Newman95 Brandon Newman95 Active Member
245 messages
joined Jun 2024
#383 ·
Nathan Bailey6 said:I'm curious—how does domestic travel usually work in other parts of the USA?

Look at Oregon—it’s non-existent. Someone moves to a different state and suddenly they lose their residency rights. They just have to stay there.
Canada is the same way.
Norway works the exact same.
Kyle Lopez2 Kyle Lopez2 Active Member
94 messages
joined Apr 2018
#384 ·
Bryan Taylor6 said:Don't compare a car where people are breathing down each other's necks to an 800-square-foot apartment. We aren't idiots. It's not the same thing, and it can't be treated as the same...

The real issue isn't sharing a car; it's sharing a bathroom with someone who actually has COVID.😁

stormybadger8 said:Neither you nor him—or anyone else in your house for that matter—actually goes anywhere. You aren't hitting the grocery store, the gas station, or picking up the mail... nothing.
Or maybe you think everyone suddenly started disinfecting their mailboxes, fences, shopping carts, and doorknobs?

Oh yeah, sure...

Yesterday I see some "genius" taking a nice stroll outside, spitting on the street, then wiping his nose with his fingers and leaving a trail of snot everywhere... just lovely.
I've never seen the guy before in my life; no clue who he is or where he came from.
I live on a quiet street in a small town where I basically know everyone.
Probably just someone visiting relatives...

It seems a bit paranoid to me. Don't you think it's a problem if you, your wife, or even your neighbor works with someone in New York who has COVID?

Or even worse, 62 miles someone from a major city like New York. I haven't been in my actual apartment for three months; I've been staying in my workshop/grandpa's old house. Just yesterday, a van pulled up full of construction workers who were laid off in Germany—probably all doing some sort of forced isolation🤣, moving in with parents who aren't even isolated.🤣

One case brought in by someone from Austria, two cases from guys coming back from Germany, and they just let them go home to their families. 👍 The government claims they're handling it well. 👍 If I were in New York and then came home, I'd be the problem myself.👍
Joseph Taylor11 Joseph Taylor11 Active Member
134 messages
joined Oct 2019
#385 ·
Nathan Bailey6 said:I'm curious—how does domestic travel usually work in other parts of the USA?

Germany... specifically the Saxony region.
There aren't any restrictions. It’s not like everyone is out partying and gathering in crowds right now, but life goes on—people head to work, the grocery store, the bank... (my partner works out in the field, so he’s constantly traveling from town to town without any issues)
Joseph Taylor11 Joseph Taylor11 Active Member
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joined Oct 2019
#386 ·
Brandon Newman95 said:Look at Oregon—it’s non-existent. Someone moves to a different state and suddenly they lose their residency rights. They just have to stay there.
Canada is the same way.
Norway works the exact same.

But what does "residency" actually mean here? Are we talking about a specific municipality or just the city?

I can't help but wonder if Canada and Canada deal with the same mess we do—having thousands of tiny little townships that act like independent nations, making it impossible to travel between them... ☕

(By the way, I was referring to Germany up above...)
Brandon Newman95 Brandon Newman95 Active Member
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joined Jun 2024
#387 ·
Joseph Taylor11 said:But what does "residency" actually mean here? Are we talking about a specific municipality or just the city?

I can't help but wonder if Canada and Canada deal with the same mess we do—having thousands of tiny little townships that act like independent nations, making it impossible to travel between them... ☕

(By the way, I was referring to Germany up above...)

It's just specific-Canadian Konjic-something. In Canada, they have home quarantine. It's happening everywhere.
Budapest has closed its borders. You couldn't even get into Canada.
Norway-who were traveling out during an Osla-weekendic to somewhere else. They managed to leave right before they got hit with quarantine and those insane fines.
In Canada and Norway-who can work from home, they just do it.
Brandon Newman95 Brandon Newman95 Active Member
245 messages
joined Jun 2024
#388 ·
Joseph Taylor11 said:But what does "residency" actually mean here? Are we talking about a specific municipality or just the city?

I can't help but wonder if Canada and Canada deal with the same mess we do—having thousands of tiny little townships that act like independent nations, making it impossible to travel between them... ☕

(By the way, I was referring to Germany up above...)

Look, residence is just where you're officially registered, you know? It's your legal address. Same goes for your temporary stay/address.
stormybadger8 stormybadger8 Veteran
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#389 ·
Matthew Jackson2 said:Apparently, the Police Department gave the green light, but now everything is stalled while they wait for some official sign-off from Washington, D.C.—because clearly, those bureaucrats in D.C. have a much better grasp on how things are running in our local towns than we do...

Božinović🙏
Local officials already tried to pull a fast one by saying you don't need permits just to move between three damn suburbs that used to be one single area...
Well, they got slapped down, so as of today, yeah, you'll need them. 🤣

God, what a massive mountain of paperwork this is going to be.
The main city is where everyone actually works, since those two surrounding suburbs basically have zero industry...
That means at least 2,000 people are going to have to scramble for permits just to get to work.
And let's not forget the endless list of small business owners who now have to deal with this nonsense too...

How are the folks from those two idiot suburbs supposed to go shopping? They barely have anything there—maybe a tiny corner store and a private bakery, but not even a gas station...

If the cops actually bother enforcing this, they're definitely going to take bribes and then spread the corruption further. It’s a perfect recipe for disaster. 🤦

I'm just waiting for this to blow up so the mob shows up at the mayor's house with pitchforks and torches, burns the place down, and hunts down anyone else brave enough to run for office...

Now we're finally going to see how pathetic and broken those suburbs really are, and just how vital it is to scrap this whole thing.
And if they actually get rid of it, let's start a GoFundMe to build Božinović the biggest monument ever seen among Americans. 🙏
Joseph Taylor11 Joseph Taylor11 Active Member
134 messages
joined Oct 2019
#390 ·
Brandon Newman95 said:It's just specific-Canadian Konjic-something. In Canada, they have home quarantine. It's happening everywhere.
Budapest has closed its borders. You couldn't even get into Canada.
Norway-who were traveling out during an Osla-weekendic to somewhere else. They managed to leave right before they got hit with quarantine and those insane fines.
In Canada and Norway-who can work from home, they just do it.

Budapest isn't a country.
Brandon Newman95 Brandon Newman95 Active Member
245 messages
joined Jun 2024
#391 ·
Joseph Taylor11 said:Budapest isn't a country.

Fine, my bad. It was a slip of the tongue. My relatives are scattered all over the map. When those universities started shutting down, a lot of them scrambled to get people out before the borders actually slammed shut. The restrictions they're rolling out here in Canada have been standard practice for ages, and honestly, I was pretty shocked to see they've implemented them in Norway too.
Joseph Taylor11 Joseph Taylor11 Active Member
134 messages
joined Oct 2019
#392 ·
stormybadger8 said:Božinović🙏
Local officials already tried to pull a fast one by saying you don't need permits just to move between three damn suburbs that used to be one single area...
Well, they got slapped down, so as of today, yeah, you'll need them. 🤣

God, what a massive mountain of paperwork this is going to be.
The main city is where everyone actually works, since those two surrounding suburbs basically have zero industry...
That means at least 2,000 people are going to have to scramble for permits just to get to work.
And let's not forget the endless list of small business owners who now have to deal with this nonsense too...

How are the folks from those two idiot suburbs supposed to go shopping? They barely have anything there—maybe a tiny corner store and a private bakery, but not even a gas station...

If the cops actually bother enforcing this, they're definitely going to take bribes and then spread the corruption further. It’s a perfect recipe for disaster. 🤦

I'm just waiting for this to blow up so the mob shows up at the mayor's house with pitchforks and torches, burns the place down, and hunts down anyone else brave enough to run for office...

Now we're finally going to see how pathetic and broken those suburbs really are, and just how vital it is to scrap this whole thing.
And if they actually get rid of it, let's start a GoFundMe to build Božinović the biggest monument ever seen among Americans. 🙏

First bolded point: Don't lecture me. I'm living it—three municipalities and two cities that used to be one unit.
In those three municipalities, there is literally nothing besides maybe one or two shops. One doesn't even have more than a single ATM.

Regarding the second bolded part: I highly doubt it... even though elections are coming up (or at least I hope they are)... maybe someone will toss this into their campaign platform and use it as their big selling point.
Anthony Jackson2 Anthony Jackson2 Regular
605 messages
joined Jul 2009
#393 ·
stormybadger8 said:Božinović🙏
Local officials already tried to pull a fast one by saying you don't need permits just to move between three damn suburbs that used to be one single area...
Well, they got slapped down, so as of today, yeah, you'll need them. 🤣

God, what a massive mountain of paperwork this is going to be.
The main city is where everyone actually works, since those two surrounding suburbs basically have zero industry...
That means at least 2,000 people are going to have to scramble for permits just to get to work.
And let's not forget the endless list of small business owners who now have to deal with this nonsense too...

How are the folks from those two idiot suburbs supposed to go shopping? They barely have anything there—maybe a tiny corner store and a private bakery, but not even a gas station...

If the cops actually bother enforcing this, they're definitely going to take bribes and then spread the corruption further. It’s a perfect recipe for disaster. 🤦

I'm just waiting for this to blow up so the mob shows up at the mayor's house with pitchforks and torches, burns the place down, and hunts down anyone else brave enough to run for office...

Now we're finally going to see how pathetic and broken those suburbs really are, and just how vital it is to scrap this whole thing.
And if they actually get rid of it, let's start a GoFundMe to build Božinović the biggest monument ever seen among Americans. 🙏

Look, Božinović is an idiot—just because he’s running the show doesn't change the facts.

Just look back at his track record before all this drama started.

Don't forget how he claimed those traffic cameras had already "paid for themselves" just months after they were installed—even though fatalities on the roads actually spiked during that first year. Of course, he was only looking at the bottom line. Now, suddenly, he's some champion of human life at any cost... give me a break.
Austin Grant9 Austin Grant9 Member
13 messages
joined Mar 2008
#394 ·
I'm wondering if you can actually make it from Split to Žrnovnica without hitting a checkpoint.
Where exactly is that control point located on the highway heading toward Omiš?
Rebecca Peterson94 Rebecca Peterson94 Member
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joined Jul 2020
#395 ·
Austin Grant9 said:I'm wondering if you can actually make it from Split to Žrnovnica without hitting a checkpoint.
Where exactly is that control point located on the highway heading toward Omiš?

Yeah, you can. Pretty sure the checkpoint is at Mutogras.
Joseph Taylor11 Joseph Taylor11 Active Member
134 messages
joined Oct 2019
#396 ·
Austin Grant9 said:I'm wondering if you can actually make it from Split to Žrnovnica without hitting a checkpoint.
Where exactly is that control point located on the highway heading toward Omiš?

Do you honestly think those "checkpoints" stay in the exact same spot every single day?🤔

I have at least two different ways to get to every town nearby... it's wild. You just need to figure out where they're sitting, bypass them, and go. Then the police realize what's happening and move the checkpoint—so you just find another way around... eventually, they cover all the routes (assuming they actually have enough officers to do it...).

Honestly, I should have seen this coming. It was bound to stop working soon... ☕
fadedranger162 fadedranger162 Active Member
70 messages
joined May 2023
#397 ·
Honestly, they’re going to breeze right back into office. Once this whole pandemic mess settles down, everyone’s going to conveniently forget everything that happened before COVID. All the hard work from doctors, cops, and basically anyone trying to keep this ship from sinking under these impossible conditions? Yeah, the politicians are going to swoop in, take all the credit, and pose as the ultimate saviors of the American people. I really wish it didn't work that way, but let's be real—most people are already buying into the hype.

It explains why our healthcare system is such a disaster; we haven't built a single new hospital in what feels like forever. And all those research labs and hundreds of companies that got gutted—the ones that could actually be helping us right now—nobody is even going to remember them or ask what happened once this blows over. Just look at the media right now; it’s a total echo chamber. Seriously, I haven't seen a single news story that wasn't about the virus or some pathetic attempt to criticize their decisions for over a month.
Austin Grant9 Austin Grant9 Member
13 messages
joined Mar 2008
#398 ·
Joseph Taylor11 said:Do you honestly think those "checkpoints" stay in the exact same spot every single day?🤔

I have at least two different ways to get to every town nearby... it's wild. You just need to figure out where they're sitting, bypass them, and go. Then the police realize what's happening and move the checkpoint—so you just find another way around... eventually, they cover all the routes (assuming they actually have enough officers to do it...).

Honestly, I should have seen this coming. It was bound to stop working soon... ☕

Look, I don't know about all that, but since Žrnovnica falls under the Split municipality, my only concern is getting a green light
at the Strožanac intersection heading toward Žrnovnica.
Rebecca Peterson94 Rebecca Peterson94 Member
27 messages
joined Jul 2020
#399 ·
Joseph Taylor11 said:Do you honestly think those "checkpoints" stay in the exact same spot every single day?🤔

I have at least two different ways to get to every town nearby... it's wild. You just need to figure out where they're sitting, bypass them, and go. Then the police realize what's happening and move the checkpoint—so you just find another way around... eventually, they cover all the routes (assuming they actually have enough officers to do it...).

Honestly, I should have seen this coming. It was bound to stop working soon... ☕

Around here, they're always parked in the same spots on the main highway (like near the roundabout, Mutogras, Sućurac, etc.), but there's zero chance they can monitor all those backroads and side paths. People are basically cruising right past them using those shortcuts, just like you described.🙂
Rebecca Peterson94 Rebecca Peterson94 Member
27 messages
joined Jul 2020
#400 ·
Austin Grant9 said:Look, I don't know about all that, but since Žrnovnica falls under the Split municipality, my only concern is getting a green light
at the Strožanac intersection heading toward Žrnovnica.

Don't sweat it, you can cruise right through to Podstrana without any issues. 🙂

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