Curfew restrictions: Is it legal to leave your house?

Jack Cook7 said:The Canadians have pulled most of their police away from the border with America to deal with things happening in Austria and Italy because of this epidemic. Since they left the border facing us totally wide open, they had to pass some law giving the military temporary extra powers just so they could send them out to our border.

I bet it’s the exact same story here; a huge chunk of the police have been moved elsewhere from the Canada border, so migrants are probably just wandering around freely right now. It’s just that those "democratic" news outlets got the memo to stay quiet about it. No news, no problem, right?

You're missing one more "certainly" in that claim about the journalists getting the "mig" memo, if you really want this whole circus to be complete.

Kenneth Jones70 said:Here’s what I’m thinking—things should start hitting the fan this week for regular folks, especially couples torn apart by this morbid decision.

I’m sending an email to the Department of Justice tomorrow morning. Naturally, I’ll be citing the U.S. Constitution and all those international treaties we signed that guarantee nobody can just restrict your freedom of movement.

There are thousands of couples in America being screwed over right now.

Is this really okay with them? Just dropping an "indefinite" ruling like that and making people suffer?

The government needs to let these couples move freely. And look, I’m not saying this as some "softie" who can't function without a girlfriend or partner.

I can handle it, sure—but it’s just not mentally healthy to have the government telling you that you can't see your significant other.

They need to fix this law immediately and allow travel from point A to point B.

The real question is when someone is going to snap—and I might be the first one to hop in my car and end up in a holding cell because I refuse to run from the cops.

When I brought this up before, I got pretty chewed out by some people on here. So now, I mostly just lurk. I read everything, but I stay quiet. Still, I felt like I really needed to make this point.

Joseph Taylor11 said:When I brought this up before, I got pretty chewed out by some people on here. So now, I mostly just lurk. I read everything, but I stay quiet. Still, I felt like I really needed to make this point.

I'm with you on that.

I'm betting this lasts through June, maybe even longer.

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Joseph Taylor11 said:When I brought this up before, I got pretty chewed out by some people on here. So now, I mostly just lurk. I read everything, but I stay quiet. Still, I felt like I really needed to make this point.

It’s not about getting torn apart...

Look, nobody is claiming it's easy to be detached... but given how technology works these days, it’s a whole lot easier than it used to be...

It’s not like you have elderly folks who are immobile and left without any care... we aren't talking about not seeing a girlfriend for a couple of weeks...

So really, what are you so afraid of?

Kenneth Jones70 said:Here’s what I’m thinking—things should start hitting the fan this week for regular folks, especially couples torn apart by this morbid decision.

I’m sending an email to the Department of Justice tomorrow morning. Naturally, I’ll be citing the U.S. Constitution and all those international treaties we signed that guarantee nobody can just restrict your freedom of movement.

There are thousands of couples in America being screwed over right now.

Is this really okay with them? Just dropping an "indefinite" ruling like that and making people suffer?

The government needs to let these couples move freely. And look, I’m not saying this as some "softie" who can't function without a girlfriend or partner.

I can handle it, sure—but it’s just not mentally healthy to have the government telling you that you can't see your significant other.

They need to fix this law immediately and allow travel from point A to point B.

The real question is when someone is going to snap—and I might be the first one to hop in my car and end up in a holding cell because I refuse to run from the cops.

I agree. My partner is from 12 miles, a different municipality and a different county. I understand they claim this ban is for our own good, but something feels off. If they aren't issuing permits, why has the police force banned changing your residence? Specifically, we are renovating a house and living together, but due to work obligations (I have to work), I have to return to my registered address because I can't get a permit to be up there, yet they won't let me update my residency status.

Adam Collins4 said:Where exactly was the police presence pulled from?

Can you give me an actual example?

And what's the reasoning behind it?

Shift schedules have been tweaked slightly because they're terrified of the virus getting into the system, so some people are basically on standby while on vacation... but there's absolutely no talk about pulling people off the border...

I don't know, I was just guessing based on how things went down in Canada. We don't exactly have cops to throw around like confetti either. If they had to set up checkpoints in every single municipality to check passes, they had to pull those people from somewhere. Plus, there's the usual grind—we've already had a few robberies in Washington, D.C. (caught immediately, though).

Honestly, news about migrants just totally vanished from the media once everything started shutting down due to the epidemic.

Right now, there are about a hundred officers stuck in quarantine, so you can bet that number is going to climb.

electricbadger89 said:I'm with you on that.

I'm betting this lasts through June, maybe even longer.

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Look, folks, and I really don't mean to offend anyone here, but honestly—how old are you people?

And more importantly, how "tough" do you think you actually are when things truly go south?

This current situation is nothing compared to what life can actually throw at you. People start whining immediately—talking about causing chaos, smashing through blockades, running from the police... it's ridiculous.

And this is coming from someone who basically admits they wouldn't even defend their own country, yet would somehow pull out all the stops if it involved a woman...

Absolute joke...

Jack Cook7 said:I don't know, I was just guessing based on how things went down in Canada. We don't exactly have cops to throw around like confetti either. If they had to set up checkpoints in every single municipality to check passes, they had to pull those people from somewhere. Plus, there's the usual grind—we've already had a few robberies in Washington, D.C. (caught immediately, though).

Honestly, news about migrants just totally vanished from the media once everything started shutting down due to the epidemic.

Right now, there are about a hundred officers stuck in quarantine, so you can bet that number is going to climb.

Checkpoints? Please. Most of the roads are completely unmonitored...

Take today, for example—between Karlovac and Dug Resa, I didn't see a single patrol... yesterday was the exact same story.

During the week, they were only at one single location; the other four spots where you enter those cities on that route? Nothing.

In the entire K County area, they only had twelve checkpoints active...

Adam Collins4 said:It’s not about getting torn apart...

Look, nobody is claiming it's easy to be detached... but given how technology works these days, it’s a whole lot easier than it used to be...

It’s not like you have elderly folks who are immobile and left without any care... we aren't talking about not seeing a girlfriend for a couple of weeks...

So really, what are you so afraid of?

Look, I wasn't even talking about being separated from a partner—because of this and that government (among other things), I've actually been distanced from him for months already—but that’s not what we're discussing here.

My point was that it’s absolutely insane that you can't even get into an HONEST grocery store!

And regarding that bolded part—if it lasts until early June—well, considering this all kicked off on March 23rd... that doesn't exactly look like "a couple of weeks" to me... and I know others feel the same way too...

But fine... I don't really have anything else to add to this topic—I'm just waiting to see how things play out. I see some people are already starting to crack after just one week... so I'm genuinely curious. Sometimes I hate being right—but I'm worried I might actually be right this time.

Nicholas King said:You're missing one more "certainly" in that claim about the journalists getting the "mig" memo, if you really want this whole circus to be complete.

Oh yeah? Well, why don't you explain how there's suddenly zero coverage in any news outlet about migrants, when just three weeks ago, there wasn't a single day without reports coming from our border or the side of Canada.

And then poof—10, 20, or 30,000 people at the border just vanish into thin air overnight.

Jessica Booth48 said:I agree. My partner is from 12 miles, a different municipality and a different county. I understand they claim this ban is for our own good, but something feels off. If they aren't issuing permits, why has the police force banned changing your residence? Specifically, we are renovating a house and living together, but due to work obligations (I have to work), I have to return to my registered address because I can't get a permit to be up there, yet they won't let me update my residency status.

So, what exactly were you waiting for before finally making the change?

Adam Collins4 said:Checkpoints? Please. Most of the roads are completely unmonitored...

Take today, for example—between Karlovac and Dug Resa, I didn't see a single patrol... yesterday was the exact same story.

During the week, they were only at one single location; the other four spots where you enter those cities on that route? Nothing.

In the entire K County area, they only had twelve checkpoints active...

They’re probably just watching the main intersections or something.

One way or another, they must have had to pull people from somewhere else, especially since they were already spread thin dealing with border security and migrants.

Joseph Taylor11 said:Look, I wasn't even talking about being separated from a partner—because of this and that government (among other things), I've actually been distanced from him for months already—but that’s not what we're discussing here.

My point was that it’s absolutely insane that you can't even get into an HONEST grocery store!

And regarding that bolded part—if it lasts until early June—well, considering this all kicked off on March 23rd... that doesn't exactly look like "a couple of weeks" to me... and I know others feel the same way too...

But fine... I don't really have anything else to add to this topic—I'm just waiting to see how things play out. I see some people are already starting to crack after just one week... so I'm genuinely curious. Sometimes I hate being right—but I'm worried I might actually be right this time.

Again, I'm not trying to insult anyone, but if someone "cracks" after a single week just because they haven't seen someone, you really have to wonder what's going on upstairs...

Because what happens when life, God forbid, hits you even harder than this...

Do you immediately jump under a train or start doing stupid stuff?

Jack Cook7 said:They’re probably just watching the main intersections or something.

One way or another, they must have had to pull people from somewhere else, especially since they were already spread thin dealing with border security and migrants.

Main intersections? Give me a break, man, there's nobody out there...

Everyone is obsessed with watching footage from Washington, D.C., or ST, and the main highway entrances... but nobody ever mentions the backroads... the ones cutting through the hills and valleys...

There isn't a government on Earth capable of controlling everything or covering every single road...

Especially not in the bigger cities, where the locals know all the shortcuts and side streets better than any cop ever could...

To actually control everything, you'd need the military, and even then, you have to wonder how much of a mess that would actually be...

Adam Collins4 said:They’re even patrolling the maritime borders now, Charles Fox10... I was just talking to some folks over on Martha's Vineyard yesterday, and apparently, things are being "reorganized" down there right now.😬

The problem is, a group with similar ideas tried this before, and it didn't exactly go well...

I file my paperwork with the FBI every year like clockwork. I'll be there for three months, and there’s no reason to change that routine this summer.

I’d probably grab the GPS myself, even in the dead of night, if things really got messy.😁

Adam Collins4 said:Main intersections? Give me a break, man, there's nobody out there...

Everyone is obsessed with watching footage from Washington, D.C., or ST, and the main highway entrances... but nobody ever mentions the backroads... the ones cutting through the hills and valleys...

There isn't a government on Earth capable of controlling everything or covering every single road...

Especially not in the bigger cities, where the locals know all the shortcuts and side streets better than any cop ever could...

To actually control everything, you'd need the military, and even then, you have to wonder how much of a mess that would actually be...

And then there's everything else... they pass some law that makes zero sense, and then the people actually working on the ground are left scratching their heads.

Kenneth Jones70 said:Here’s what I’m thinking—things should start hitting the fan this week for regular folks, especially couples torn apart by this morbid decision.

I’m sending an email to the Department of Justice tomorrow morning. Naturally, I’ll be citing the U.S. Constitution and all those international treaties we signed that guarantee nobody can just restrict your freedom of movement.

There are thousands of couples in America being screwed over right now.

Is this really okay with them? Just dropping an "indefinite" ruling like that and making people suffer?

The government needs to let these couples move freely. And look, I’m not saying this as some "softie" who can't function without a girlfriend or partner.

I can handle it, sure—but it’s just not mentally healthy to have the government telling you that you can't see your significant other.

They need to fix this law immediately and allow travel from point A to point B.

The real question is when someone is going to snap—and I might be the first one to hop in my car and end up in a holding cell because I refuse to run from the cops.

I'm with you! Not only am I unable to get to my partner, but I also have to pay more for groceries if I can even find any.

And just one more thing: I lived through '91 too... and I don't remember the entire country being under lockdown or everyone getting stuck within their tiny county lines (even though back then—just as a reminder—those counties basically only covered four modern-day neighborhoods plus the city!!).
So seriously—now is really not the time for war stories.
All we're waiting for now is for the old political factions to start clashing again... so we can finally figure out which way the wind is blowing.
(But honestly, I'm done talking about it... I always end up getting sucked into these debates... but if they didn't teach me how to think for myself, jbte, what was the point?...)

Charles Fox10 said:I file my paperwork with the FBI every year like clockwork. I'll be there for three months, and there’s no reason to change that routine this summer.

I’d probably grab the GPS myself, even in the dead of night, if things really got messy.😁

Thermal imaging, Charles Fox10—it’s not like the old days where you just kill the lights and paddle a boat around...

To be honest, I’ve pretty much given up on my usual summer setup. Every year I spend six to eight weeks out on Murter or the Kornat islands, but this year? I’m terrified none of that is happening...

Maybe Kornat might still be on the table, but Murter—given everything going on right now—I don't want to mess around... especially not with the kids, since one of them has dealt with serious respiratory issues in the past...

I don't know, I stay in touch with my folks, and when my old man—whose colleagues in the medical field can't find a single positive thing to say after talking amongst themselves—is looking at everything through such a pessimistic lens, I’m certainly not feeling much more optimistic than he is...

My first theory was that everything would stabilize by April 15th... but seeing how this is unfolding, June 15th isn't even a sure bet...

How this is going to hit the economy and how the "average" person is actually going to stomach it—man, it scares me just thinking about it.

Word on the street is we're stuck in quarantine until June 1st—now Vili just announced 🤦