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Curfew restrictions: Is it legal to leave your house?

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Adam Collins4 Adam Collins4 Regular
502 messages
joined Apr 2013
#721 ·
Joseph Taylor11 said:And just one more thing: I lived through '91 too... and I don't remember the entire country being under lockdown or everyone getting stuck within their tiny county lines (even though back then—just as a reminder—those counties basically only covered four modern-day neighborhoods plus the city!!).
So seriously—now is really not the time for war stories.
All we're waiting for now is for the old political factions to start clashing again... so we can finally figure out which way the wind is blowing.
(But honestly, I'm done talking about it... I always end up getting sucked into these debates... but if they didn't teach me how to think for myself, jbte, what was the point?...)

Of course it was; during those alerts, you weren't allowed to go anywhere...

And again, I'm not talking about war stories—I'm talking about how people managed to survive even worse crap during much harder times...

Like when you couldn't see or hear a single soul for weeks on end...

Nowadays, in this age of technology, you’ve got video calls and everything else you could possibly need...
Adam Collins4 Adam Collins4 Regular
502 messages
joined Apr 2013
#722 ·
driftingfox6 said:I'm with you! Not only am I unable to get to my partner, but I also have to pay more for groceries if I can even find any.

Vauuuu, shame on them...

And now—God forbid—imagine if you accidentally passed a virus to someone else just because you decided to wander through stores or go out on a date with a girl...

People have become incredibly selfish...

And everything is fine as long as it’s happening to someone else, right?

Good grief, you haven't seen the footage coming out of Italy—you know what happens when everyone just does whatever the hell they want?
Kenneth Jones70 Kenneth Jones70 Member
20 messages
joined Jun 2020
#723 ·
Adam Collins4 said:Look, folks, and I really don't mean to offend anyone here, but honestly—how old are you people?

And more importantly, how "tough" do you think you actually are when things truly go south?

This current situation is nothing compared to what life can actually throw at you. People start whining immediately—talking about causing chaos, smashing through blockades, running from the police... it's ridiculous.

And this is coming from someone who basically admits they wouldn't even defend their own country, yet would somehow pull out all the stops if it involved a woman...

Absolute joke...

Please—just move on from this thread.

If you’re getting a kick out of us being locked down because of some exaggerated nonsense, go find another thread to post in.

Me, along with probably 90% of the sensible people left, agrees that this whole travel ban thing makes zero sense.

Once the government shows they're actually terrified of this flu and starts testing everyone who was near an infected person—instead of just waiting for symptoms to pop up—then maybe I'll believe there's a reason to worry.

Right now, it’s all just overkill that’s going to ruin everything.

This isn't a war, and these stay-at-home orders are about as stupid as it gets.

The media is just pushing doom and gloom; nobody’s talking about the 90% of people recovering at home with barely any symptoms.

Seriously, just drop it and leave this thread alone.
Joseph Taylor11 Joseph Taylor11 Active Member
134 messages
joined Oct 2019
#724 ·
Adam Collins4 said:You aren't spending "way" more money; you're just spending more, which isn't the same thing...

I mean, what choice are you really looking for? Bread, dairy, meat, deli stuff, maybe some canned goods if that's your thing—you can find all of that anywhere.

I get your point, I really do, but now isn't exactly the time to be obsessing over whether something is a dollar or two cheaper somewhere else...

If we're going to play that game, you might as well factor in the cost of gas it takes to drive all the way into the city to hit those big retailers...

Getting to the center of town - 3.7 miles
Driving to the next city over - 1.6 miles
Heading to the nearest major metro area - 6.2 miles.

And right now, you're definitely in the minority here—so let's skip the demagoguery.
Go check out the news sites where they published that interview with Capak—he mentioned that things MIGHT start easing up by early June—and just look at the comments. People are already losing their minds.
I'm genuinely curious what's going to happen, say, at the beginning of May?
George Murphy12 George Murphy12 Member
40 messages
joined Apr 2020
#725 ·
Adam Collins4 said:But then again, cities have those specific restrictions—limited crowds in the stores, those two-meter lines waiting outside the shops... pharmacies are the same way...

Just watch your step with everything...

What's the actual vibe in the stores? What are people saying? Even the big-box retailers don't seem to have much meat left... or take something like German dough, crepes, or breadcrumbs for example...

I don't know, personally, we buy our meat directly from people we trust who raise it out on a farm... none of this processed stuff from corporate centers or whatever...

If it were easy, it would be... but hey, that's just how things are these days...

Yeah, I'm with you, things are definitely crazy right now.

And don't even get me started on the grocery stores—only one person can go in at a time while the line wraps around the building.

All I'm saying is, if you actually know how a tiny corner bodega works, you know exactly how much stuff they can even fit on those shelves in a tiny space. 😁
Edward Lee7 Edward Lee7 Member
41 messages
joined May 2024
#726 ·
Joseph Taylor11 said:Getting to the center of town - 3.7 miles
Driving to the next city over - 1.6 miles
Heading to the nearest major metro area - 6.2 miles.

And right now, you're definitely in the minority here—so let's skip the demagoguery.
Go check out the news sites where they published that interview with Capak—he mentioned that things MIGHT start easing up by early June—and just look at the comments. People are already losing their minds.
I'm genuinely curious what's going to happen, say, at the beginning of May?

Plus, you have at least two or three different ways to go, left, right, up, or down.

If you really want to, and if you absolutely have to, you can get wherever you need to be.

It doesn't mean doing it every single day or three times a day.

🙂
Adam Collins4 Adam Collins4 Regular
502 messages
joined Apr 2013
#727 ·
Kenneth Jones70 said:Please—just move on from this thread.

If you’re getting a kick out of us being locked down because of some exaggerated nonsense, go find another thread to post in.

Me, along with probably 90% of the sensible people left, agrees that this whole travel ban thing makes zero sense.

Once the government shows they're actually terrified of this flu and starts testing everyone who was near an infected person—instead of just waiting for symptoms to pop up—then maybe I'll believe there's a reason to worry.

Right now, it’s all just overkill that’s going to ruin everything.

This isn't a war, and these stay-at-home orders are about as stupid as it gets.

The media is just pushing doom and gloom; nobody’s talking about the 90% of people recovering at home with barely any symptoms.

Seriously, just drop it and leave this thread alone.

I'm dying to know what your criteria are for being "smart" while you're busy rambling on about how this is just like the flu...

And you're totally ignoring what happened in Italy...

Man, do you even grasp that this crap has a mortality rate of up to 10% among those infected, yet here you are acting like it's just a seasonal bug...

I'm telling you, God forbid you pass this to someone close to you just because you don't have enough sense to conform... you'd be singing a much different tune then...

It's the same story with these geniuses breaking self-isolation... they think they're "too cool" to listen to anyone telling them what to do...

Just be grateful if your biggest problem ends up being that you won't see someone for a little while...
Adam Collins4 Adam Collins4 Regular
502 messages
joined Apr 2013
#728 ·
Joseph Taylor11 said:Getting to the center of town - 3.7 miles
Driving to the next city over - 1.6 miles
Heading to the nearest major metro area - 6.2 miles.

And right now, you're definitely in the minority here—so let's skip the demagoguery.
Go check out the news sites where they published that interview with Capak—he mentioned that things MIGHT start easing up by early June—and just look at the comments. People are already losing their minds.
I'm genuinely curious what's going to happen, say, at the beginning of May?

First off, learn how to spell someone's last name... that should be the bare minimum here...

Second, I couldn't care less about the comments from the crowd that can't grab a coffee anymore, or the idiots who would drive to another state just to hunt down some germs or because there's better selection in the grocery stores over there...

Demagoguery?

That's exactly what you and the people who can't handle being slightly isolated are selling...

We've turned into a society of soft crybabies because that's how we've been conditioned... honestly, if real trouble actually hits, 90% of you whining right now about a little bit of social distancing wouldn't stand a chance at surviving....
Adam Collins4 Adam Collins4 Regular
502 messages
joined Apr 2013
#729 ·
Larry Walker24 said:Word on the street is we're stuck in quarantine until June 1st—now Vili just announced 🤦

But look, we aren't even in a lockdown. If we actually were, the rules would be completely different...
darktinker4 darktinker4 Active Member
79 messages
joined May 2019
#730 ·
Amanda Hughes37 said:I actually told my husband... that this all went down back when we were just kids... but honestly, who’s going to stop me from tracking him down? I'll just throw on some camo, blend into the Appalachians, and disappear...🙂🙂

My fiancé is actually on his way to see me right now, and we're less than 6.2 miles away. If things stay this shitty, jbte, what am I even supposed to do? We had so many big plans and work projects lined up for this year, and now it looks like we won't even be able to move into our new house this year. 🙄 🙂

I can't get into the doctors in Miami or even see my own people. I can't get any checkups done, nothing...

Honestly, I'm more worried about catching something here in the middle of nowhere from all the local stinky alcoholics. 🤮
darktinker4 darktinker4 Active Member
79 messages
joined May 2019
#731 ·
Larry Walker24 said:Word on the street is we're stuck in quarantine until June 1st—now Vili just announced 🤦

Oh man, if things go this way, maybe I'll actually have enough time to visit the registrar 😂😂😂
Joseph Taylor11 Joseph Taylor11 Active Member
134 messages
joined Oct 2019
#732 ·
Adam Collins4 said:First off, learn how to spell someone's last name... that should be the bare minimum here...

Second, I couldn't care less about the comments from the crowd that can't grab a coffee anymore, or the idiots who would drive to another state just to hunt down some germs or because there's better selection in the grocery stores over there...

Demagoguery?

That's exactly what you and the people who can't handle being slightly isolated are selling...

We've turned into a society of soft crybabies because that's how we've been conditioned... honestly, if real trouble actually hits, 90% of you whining right now about a little bit of social distancing wouldn't stand a chance at surviving....

Bravo... because clearly, that matters so much...
My mistake—so please, feel free to keep "violating" common sense. It feels to me like you'll be picking fights with yourself pretty soon... two or three weeks max.
Nicole James Nicole James Regular
313 messages
joined Dec 2010
#733 ·
darktinker4 said:My fiancé is actually on his way to see me right now, and we're less than 6.2 miles away. If things stay this shitty, jbte, what am I even supposed to do? We had so many big plans and work projects lined up for this year, and now it looks like we won't even be able to move into our new house this year. 🙄 🙂

I can't get into the doctors in Miami or even see my own people. I can't get any checkups done, nothing...

Honestly, I'm more worried about catching something here in the middle of nowhere from all the local stinky alcoholics. 🤮

You can't go to your own people—yeah, and that's exactly the point. You can't go to your own because you might infect them, then your family ends up in the hospital, then they infect the doctor, then the doctor goes to cardiology and infects twenty critically ill patients...
Adam Collins4 Adam Collins4 Regular
502 messages
joined Apr 2013
#734 ·
Joseph Taylor11 said:Bravo... because clearly, that matters so much...
My mistake—so please, feel free to keep "violating" common sense. It feels to me like you'll be picking fights with yourself pretty soon... two or three weeks max.

I'm not even arguing...

I'm just warning people that if they can't handle being away from everyone for a week without losing their absolute minds, there might be something fundamentally wrong with their mental state...

And honestly, what happens when life throws something actually catastrophic at you?

Yet here we are, with a crowd crying about how this is just like the flu...

Even though it has zero connection to the flu...

But sure, go ahead and break through the lockdowns and act like idiots... people like that deserve penalties so heavy their grandkids will still be paying them off for those "genius" moves...
Adam Collins4 Adam Collins4 Regular
502 messages
joined Apr 2013
#735 ·
Nicole James said:You can't go to your own people—yeah, and that's exactly the point. You can't go to your own because you might infect them, then your family ends up in the hospital, then they infect the doctor, then the doctor goes to cardiology and infects twenty critically ill patients...

Oh sure, because it's just like the flu...

Since the flu manages to wreck the healthcare system every single year just like this...
Charles Fox10 Charles Fox10 Regular
352 messages
joined Mar 2009
#736 ·
Adam Collins4 said:Thermal imaging, Charles Fox10—it’s not like the old days where you just kill the lights and paddle a boat around...

To be honest, I’ve pretty much given up on my usual summer setup. Every year I spend six to eight weeks out on Murter or the Kornat islands, but this year? I’m terrified none of that is happening...

Maybe Kornat might still be on the table, but Murter—given everything going on right now—I don't want to mess around... especially not with the kids, since one of them has dealt with serious respiratory issues in the past...

I don't know, I stay in touch with my folks, and when my old man—whose colleagues in the medical field can't find a single positive thing to say after talking amongst themselves—is looking at everything through such a pessimistic lens, I’m certainly not feeling much more optimistic than he is...

My first theory was that everything would stabilize by April 15th... but seeing how this is unfolding, June 15th isn't even a sure bet...

How this is going to hit the economy and how the "average" person is actually going to stomach it—man, it scares me just thinking about it.

They can talk all they want about how easy the drive is from the Slatina Institute.😁

I'm neither an optimist nor a pessimist. But let's be real—this isn't going to be solved easily, and we're headed for problems we haven't even imagined yet. Still, God help us, we have to endure it. We don't have any other choice.
Nicole James Nicole James Regular
313 messages
joined Dec 2010
#737 ·
Adam Collins4 said:Oh sure, because it's just like the flu...

Since the flu manages to wreck the healthcare system every single year just like this...

A friend of mine was basically telling me it was "just a slightly stronger flu," so I actually sat down and ran the numbers myself. If you look at the average annual mortality rate in Spain—when you break that down against the total population on a daily basis—you find that the expected death toll is roughly 1,300 people per day. Since Corona hit, we saw over 800 deaths yesterday alone. That's a hell of a "stronger flu."
Jack Cook7 Jack Cook7 Regular
376 messages
joined Aug 2017
#738 ·
And honestly, whoever was the first one to pull that comparison with the grip really should have taken a second to think about it.
hollowmason64 hollowmason64 Regular
411 messages
joined Jan 2016
#739 ·
Sandra Thomas39 said:Hey there.
Got a bit of a random question for the group.
We’re currently hanging out at our weekend spot up in the Appalachians while everything back home is shut down for the weekend.
The kids are having an absolute blast, and honestly, we’ve got total privacy—it feels like we own this whole mountain...
I’m not even itching to get back to the city since my job is fully remote, but my wife’s salon is locked up tight until Monday.
Of course, we aren't officially registered as being at this location.
So, here's the real kicker: do we actually have to head back to the city right now?

You don't really have to, but you can always check in through the e-visitor system just so they know you've arrived.

George Murphy12 said:Yeah, exactly—meat, chicken, frozen stuff... they just don't have it. 😁

I don't obsess over every cent or every sale, and honestly, considering gas prices are $4.00 it's better to just head out and buy what you need. Between the small grocery list and the price of produce, the gas cost pays for itself pretty damn fast because you actually have options. You don't have to settle for whatever random crap is on the shelf just because it's there.
Bottom line: in a big city, you've got choices. In a tiny rural town? You don't. More people means a higher chance of catching something...

I honestly feel like in small towns like this, people could just work out a little agreement. It wouldn't be hard to arrange for everyone to get a pass once a month just to handle those big, massive shopping trips. For all the everyday little things, the local corner stores are perfectly fine.
I mean, there's really no need to make a trip to the next town over just to go shopping every single week. It feels like a bit much.
At the end of the day, you've got all these small family farms scattered all over the country. If you look through those local Facebook groups, they’ll offer you just about anything living—I'm talking everything from fresh produce right down to little chicks.
Honestly, you might be better off just ordering from one of those local guys. They’ve already got all the passes sorted out, so they can handle the delivery without any hassle.

Joseph Taylor11 said:Getting to the center of town - 3.7 miles
Driving to the next city over - 1.6 miles
Heading to the nearest major metro area - 6.2 miles.

And right now, you're definitely in the minority here—so let's skip the demagoguery.
Go check out the news sites where they published that interview with Capak—he mentioned that things MIGHT start easing up by early June—and just look at the comments. People are already losing their minds.
I'm genuinely curious what's going to happen, say, at the beginning of May?

Are people actually losing it? Why on earth are wealthy people resorting to violence? Is it because they don't have to lift a finger, just sitting around at home all day staring at the TV or playing video games? It’s honestly a tragedy. Just imagine what kind of chaos would break out if things really went south.
What @Alfie was getting at—just put more politely—is that they’re nothing but a bunch of spoiled brats.
I already mentioned this on another thread, but honestly, it feels like nobody really gets what it’s actually like working under these conditions. Imagine being wrapped up in a mask and rubber gloves for eight hours straight, constantly spraying yourself down with different types of alcohol just to survive. You can't even take a sip of water from a bottle without being paranoid; if you touch that damn plastic bottle with hands that haven't been properly disinfected, and there's a virus on it, it’s going to sit on that surface for three days. It's just a matter of time before you accidentally ingest it. Then there's the mental toll—you find yourself looking at everyone else as a potential carrier. You start getting scared to even touch your own head because you lose track of whether you actually sanitized your hands or not, and then you end up just dousing yourself in more alcohol anyway. Jbte, if they tried to give me a breathalyzer test at work, I’d probably blow a massive number just from breathing in all those alcohol fumes.
It’s like, once you finally step through your own front door, you just want to strip everything off. All that weight, all those layers—you just shed it all the second you're home.
You end up wasting an entire free day just standing in line at the checkout counters.
But honestly, the biggest issue is whether you actually have enough variety at the grocery store to make things bearable. It’s tough because you can't even get together with your friends for a backyard BBQ or grab a few drinks to blow off steam, and that's when people really start to crack.
It’s just selfish, self-imposed isolation.
"Out there," there's a massive group of people working their tails off just to keep the system barely functioning. They're paying a hell of a price with their mental health, praying to God this all wraps up as soon as possible. For everyone else, the struggle is being stuck inside waiting for it to end, fearing they might lose it first.
To anyone claiming they’re about to "snap"—I’d love to see you try working under these conditions. I'd ask you exactly how long it would take before you started whining to be locked back inside your house.
Don't you feel any shame?
Adam Collins4 Adam Collins4 Regular
502 messages
joined Apr 2013
#740 ·
Exactly...

The real issue is that everyone is just looking out for their own skin and their own little interests...

If someone actually brought a virus home because they felt they absolutely had to see some girl or hit up the grocery store—since, you know, there's better selection there and plenty of germs—then we’d really see what happens...

I was out on my bike today over at Mrežnica, checking out my favorite brewery and those waterfalls—those cascades—just sitting there thinking how nice it would be to sit down and have a glass of some perfectly chilled Škrlet... and remembering how I used to manage to pull that off from time to time this time last year...

But damn it, it's just not happening... and I'm sure as hell not going to play along...

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