Curfew restrictions: Is it legal to leave your house?

hollowmason64 said:You don't really have to, but you can always check in through the e-visitor system just so they know you've arrived.

I honestly feel like in small towns like this, people could just work out a little agreement. It wouldn't be hard to arrange for everyone to get a pass once a month just to handle those big, massive shopping trips. For all the everyday little things, the local corner stores are perfectly fine.
I mean, there's really no need to make a trip to the next town over just to go shopping every single week. It feels like a bit much.
At the end of the day, you've got all these small family farms scattered all over the country. If you look through those local Facebook groups, they’ll offer you just about anything living—I'm talking everything from fresh produce right down to little chicks.
Honestly, you might be better off just ordering from one of those local guys. They’ve already got all the passes sorted out, so they can handle the delivery without any hassle.

Are people actually losing it? Why on earth are wealthy people resorting to violence? Is it because they don't have to lift a finger, just sitting around at home all day staring at the TV or playing video games? It’s honestly a tragedy. Just imagine what kind of chaos would break out if things really went south.
What @Alfie was getting at—just put more politely—is that they’re nothing but a bunch of spoiled brats.
I already mentioned this on another thread, but honestly, it feels like nobody really gets what it’s actually like working under these conditions. Imagine being wrapped up in a mask and rubber gloves for eight hours straight, constantly spraying yourself down with different types of alcohol just to survive. You can't even take a sip of water from a bottle without being paranoid; if you touch that damn plastic bottle with hands that haven't been properly disinfected, and there's a virus on it, it’s going to sit on that surface for three days. It's just a matter of time before you accidentally ingest it. Then there's the mental toll—you find yourself looking at everyone else as a potential carrier. You start getting scared to even touch your own head because you lose track of whether you actually sanitized your hands or not, and then you end up just dousing yourself in more alcohol anyway. Jbte, if they tried to give me a breathalyzer test at work, I’d probably blow a massive number just from breathing in all those alcohol fumes.
It’s like, once you finally step through your own front door, you just want to strip everything off. All that weight, all those layers—you just shed it all the second you're home.
You end up wasting an entire free day just standing in line at the checkout counters.
But honestly, the biggest issue is whether you actually have enough variety at the grocery store to make things bearable. It’s tough because you can't even get together with your friends for a backyard BBQ or grab a few drinks to blow off steam, and that's when people really start to crack.
It’s just selfish, self-imposed isolation.
"Out there," there's a massive group of people working their tails off just to keep the system barely functioning. They're paying a hell of a price with their mental health, praying to God this all wraps up as soon as possible. For everyone else, the struggle is being stuck inside waiting for it to end, fearing they might lose it first.
To anyone claiming they’re about to "snap"—I’d love to see you try working under these conditions. I'd ask you exactly how long it would take before you started whining to be locked back inside your house.
Don't you feel any shame?

What are you talking about? It's just a slightly intense flu, but he *has* to see his girlfriend because he hasn't seen her in six days, and now he's in GTA mode, acting like a total rebel against the lockdowns...

Sarcasm mode OFF...

Like I said, I hope people like that never had anything truly terrible happen to them in their lives, otherwise they would have been run over by a train a long time ago...

In the age of the internet, crying because you can't see someone...

hollowmason64 said:You don't really have to, but you can always check in through the e-visitor system just so they know you've arrived.

I honestly feel like in small towns like this, people could just work out a little agreement. It wouldn't be hard to arrange for everyone to get a pass once a month just to handle those big, massive shopping trips. For all the everyday little things, the local corner stores are perfectly fine.
I mean, there's really no need to make a trip to the next town over just to go shopping every single week. It feels like a bit much.
At the end of the day, you've got all these small family farms scattered all over the country. If you look through those local Facebook groups, they’ll offer you just about anything living—I'm talking everything from fresh produce right down to little chicks.
Honestly, you might be better off just ordering from one of those local guys. They’ve already got all the passes sorted out, so they can handle the delivery without any hassle.

Are people actually losing it? Why on earth are wealthy people resorting to violence? Is it because they don't have to lift a finger, just sitting around at home all day staring at the TV or playing video games? It’s honestly a tragedy. Just imagine what kind of chaos would break out if things really went south.
What @Alfie was getting at—just put more politely—is that they’re nothing but a bunch of spoiled brats.
I already mentioned this on another thread, but honestly, it feels like nobody really gets what it’s actually like working under these conditions. Imagine being wrapped up in a mask and rubber gloves for eight hours straight, constantly spraying yourself down with different types of alcohol just to survive. You can't even take a sip of water from a bottle without being paranoid; if you touch that damn plastic bottle with hands that haven't been properly disinfected, and there's a virus on it, it’s going to sit on that surface for three days. It's just a matter of time before you accidentally ingest it. Then there's the mental toll—you find yourself looking at everyone else as a potential carrier. You start getting scared to even touch your own head because you lose track of whether you actually sanitized your hands or not, and then you end up just dousing yourself in more alcohol anyway. Jbte, if they tried to give me a breathalyzer test at work, I’d probably blow a massive number just from breathing in all those alcohol fumes.
It’s like, once you finally step through your own front door, you just want to strip everything off. All that weight, all those layers—you just shed it all the second you're home.
You end up wasting an entire free day just standing in line at the checkout counters.
But honestly, the biggest issue is whether you actually have enough variety at the grocery store to make things bearable. It’s tough because you can't even get together with your friends for a backyard BBQ or grab a few drinks to blow off steam, and that's when people really start to crack.
It’s just selfish, self-imposed isolation.
"Out there," there's a massive group of people working their tails off just to keep the system barely functioning. They're paying a hell of a price with their mental health, praying to God this all wraps up as soon as possible. For everyone else, the struggle is being stuck inside waiting for it to end, fearing they might lose it first.
To anyone claiming they’re about to "snap"—I’d love to see you try working under these conditions. I'd ask you exactly how long it would take before you started whining to be locked back inside your house.
Don't you feel any shame?

I find myself wondering—and I’d love to hear what the rest of you think on this—what exactly drives people to pull the trigger? It isn't just about the impulse... there seems to be something deeper, something more complex behind that split-second decision to resort to violence. Why does it happen?
Well, why don't you just go ahead and ask them... there are plenty of comments right there in the article—I read through them myself, after all—so just ask them why they’re losing it...
I was reading through some reports regarding the upcoming June developments—specifically those concerning the priority shifts within the local government—and it really makes you wonder about the direction we're heading... There seems to be a significant push from the administration to reorganize certain regional priorities, much like how federal agencies might shift focus during a transition period. It’s one of those situations where the bureaucracy moves at its own pace, regardless of what the public actually needs on the ground. You see these high-level discussions in Washington, D.C., and they trickle down until they hit the local county level, often losing all their original intent along the way. It feels a bit like watching a slow-motion collision between policy and reality. One moment everything is supposedly under control, and the next, the entire framework is being restructured under the guise of "optimization." It’s quite a delicate dance, isn't it? One can only hope that the actual impact on everyday citizens isn't as disruptive as the paperwork suggests... though, based on past experience, optimism might be a bit misplaced.

But actually, what I really wanted to write was this: that whole statement about a "quarantine until June"—or however Capak phrased it—feels to me like nothing more than a series of "test balloons"...
Once the restrictions start to ease up—likely well before the middle of May—and Capak becomes the hero we’ll all be cheering for from our balconies...
We would be grateful.🙏

I've seen this play out more times than I can count—but clearly, it still works. It’s that classic "carrot and stick" approach... effective, if nothing else.
Most times, a quick fix just isn't enough to spark lasting change in people—not when you're trying to cultivate genuinely positive attitudes toward their work, their daily routines... or really anything else, for that matter.
But for some reason—it seems to have left its mark on our national mentality...
But then again, I’m certainly no sociologist... let them deal with that side of things.

Adam Collins4 said:I'm dying to know what your criteria are for being "smart" while you're busy rambling on about how this is just like the flu...

And you're totally ignoring what happened in Italy...

Man, do you even grasp that this crap has a mortality rate of up to 10% among those infected, yet here you are acting like it's just a seasonal bug...

I'm telling you, God forbid you pass this to someone close to you just because you don't have enough sense to conform... you'd be singing a much different tune then...

It's the same story with these geniuses breaking self-isolation... they think they're "too cool" to listen to anyone telling them what to do...

Just be grateful if your biggest problem ends up being that you won't see someone for a little while...

Stop lying and intentionally spreading panic. Like Rudan said, the mortality rate will be around 0.5%.
If that’s enough justification for you to push Stalinist tactics, fine—but don't assume everyone agrees.

Adam Collins4 said:I'm dying to know what your criteria are for being "smart" while you're busy rambling on about how this is just like the flu...

And you're totally ignoring what happened in Italy...

Man, do you even grasp that this crap has a mortality rate of up to 10% among those infected, yet here you are acting like it's just a seasonal bug...

I'm telling you, God forbid you pass this to someone close to you just because you don't have enough sense to conform... you'd be singing a much different tune then...

It's the same story with these geniuses breaking self-isolation... they think they're "too cool" to listen to anyone telling them what to do...

Just be grateful if your biggest problem ends up being that you won't see someone for a little while...

Look, stop spreading misinformation like that. What do you mean, 10% mortality? Estimates fluctuate, sure, but we’re looking at closer to 1% or even less. Most people who catch the virus breeze through it without any lasting issues, and they never even get tested, so they don't even show up in the data. And honestly, the people who do pass away are mostly folks over 70 with underlying conditions who likely would have succumbed to almost any virus anyway.
Just do a quick Google search on the Diamond Princess.

Look, most people are freaking out because they're terrified for their lives, not because they're comfortable. If things stay this way until June, we're looking at a total catastrophe.

So yeah, while I have massive respect for the healthcare worker who absolutely lost her cool there, she still shouldn't have to worry about her job security.

Steven Hill2 said:Stop lying and intentionally spreading panic. Like Rudan said, the mortality rate will be around 0.5%.
If that’s enough justification for you to push Stalinist tactics, fine—but don't assume everyone agrees.

Melissa Ward said:Look, stop spreading misinformation like that. What do you mean, 10% mortality? Estimates fluctuate, sure, but we’re looking at closer to 1% or even less. Most people who catch the virus breeze through it without any lasting issues, and they never even get tested, so they don't even show up in the data. And honestly, the people who do pass away are mostly folks over 70 with underlying conditions who likely would have succumbed to almost any virus anyway.
Just do a quick Google search on the Diamond Princess.

What are the current infection numbers in Italy, and how many deaths have we seen so far?

Alright, let's keep this moving then—what's the actual mortality rate for the flu?

So, what's the next move then—trying to figure out which one is just a nasty case of the flu and which one is actually the Corona?

I mean, honestly, it really is just like the flu...

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What kind of absolute nonsense are they pulling out of their asses just to ensure that people over 70—who are already dealing with health issues—end up dying from some random virus?

Look, I personally have family members who are well over 70, and I don't want even a single percent of this... just because some people can't seem to stay put at home.

Joshua Gray75 said:I find myself wondering—and I’d love to hear what the rest of you think on this—what exactly drives people to pull the trigger? It isn't just about the impulse... there seems to be something deeper, something more complex behind that split-second decision to resort to violence. Why does it happen?
Well, why don't you just go ahead and ask them... there are plenty of comments right there in the article—I read through them myself, after all—so just ask them why they’re losing it...
I was reading through some reports regarding the upcoming June developments—specifically those concerning the priority shifts within the local government—and it really makes you wonder about the direction we're heading... There seems to be a significant push from the administration to reorganize certain regional priorities, much like how federal agencies might shift focus during a transition period. It’s one of those situations where the bureaucracy moves at its own pace, regardless of what the public actually needs on the ground. You see these high-level discussions in Washington, D.C., and they trickle down until they hit the local county level, often losing all their original intent along the way. It feels a bit like watching a slow-motion collision between policy and reality. One moment everything is supposedly under control, and the next, the entire framework is being restructured under the guise of "optimization." It’s quite a delicate dance, isn't it? One can only hope that the actual impact on everyday citizens isn't as disruptive as the paperwork suggests... though, based on past experience, optimism might be a bit misplaced.

But actually, what I really wanted to write was this: that whole statement about a "quarantine until June"—or however Capak phrased it—feels to me like nothing more than a series of "test balloons"...
Once the restrictions start to ease up—likely well before the middle of May—and Capak becomes the hero we’ll all be cheering for from our balconies...
We would be grateful.🙏

I've seen this play out more times than I can count—but clearly, it still works. It’s that classic "carrot and stick" approach... effective, if nothing else.
Most times, a quick fix just isn't enough to spark lasting change in people—not when you're trying to cultivate genuinely positive attitudes toward their work, their daily routines... or really anything else, for that matter.
But for some reason—it seems to have left its mark on our national mentality...
But then again, I’m certainly no sociologist... let them deal with that side of things.

I'm thinking along pretty much the same lines...

Classic crowd psychology...

It's much easier to say June 1st, and then pivot to the scenario you described on May 15th...

Than it is to say April 15th or May 1st, only to backtrack and say June 1st later.

And deal with the risk of unrest.

casualgardener3 said:Look, most people are freaking out because they're terrified for their lives, not because they're comfortable. If things stay this way until June, we're looking at a total catastrophe.

So yeah, while I have massive respect for the healthcare worker who absolutely lost her cool there, she still shouldn't have to worry about her job security.

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Fear and panic might keep things under control for a little while, but the real question is how much longer that can actually last...

USA Today is reporting on some serious inconsistencies being pointed out by members of Congress: "CONGRESSIONAL REPRESENTATIVES HIGHLIGHT ILLOGICALITY There is absolutely no sense in restricting movement in small towns with only 80 residents, while in a massive metro area like Washington, D.C. with 800,000 people, you can just move about normally "

Down in Miami, the police are picking up people just for walking around; some individuals are being reckless and excessive, which spreads the disease, but even so, these movement restrictions feel imprecise and far too restrictive. What else should we expect when you implement such extreme measures? People simply won't respect them.

Joshua Gray75 said:I find myself wondering—and I’d love to hear what the rest of you think on this—what exactly drives people to pull the trigger? It isn't just about the impulse... there seems to be something deeper, something more complex behind that split-second decision to resort to violence. Why does it happen?
Well, why don't you just go ahead and ask them... there are plenty of comments right there in the article—I read through them myself, after all—so just ask them why they’re losing it...
I was reading through some reports regarding the upcoming June developments—specifically those concerning the priority shifts within the local government—and it really makes you wonder about the direction we're heading... There seems to be a significant push from the administration to reorganize certain regional priorities, much like how federal agencies might shift focus during a transition period. It’s one of those situations where the bureaucracy moves at its own pace, regardless of what the public actually needs on the ground. You see these high-level discussions in Washington, D.C., and they trickle down until they hit the local county level, often losing all their original intent along the way. It feels a bit like watching a slow-motion collision between policy and reality. One moment everything is supposedly under control, and the next, the entire framework is being restructured under the guise of "optimization." It’s quite a delicate dance, isn't it? One can only hope that the actual impact on everyday citizens isn't as disruptive as the paperwork suggests... though, based on past experience, optimism might be a bit misplaced.

But actually, what I really wanted to write was this: that whole statement about a "quarantine until June"—or however Capak phrased it—feels to me like nothing more than a series of "test balloons"...
Once the restrictions start to ease up—likely well before the middle of May—and Capak becomes the hero we’ll all be cheering for from our balconies...
We would be grateful.🙏

I've seen this play out more times than I can count—but clearly, it still works. It’s that classic "carrot and stick" approach... effective, if nothing else.
Most times, a quick fix just isn't enough to spark lasting change in people—not when you're trying to cultivate genuinely positive attitudes toward their work, their daily routines... or really anything else, for that matter.
But for some reason—it seems to have left its mark on our national mentality...
But then again, I’m certainly no sociologist... let them deal with that side of things.

Finally, someone making sense.

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I don't know, I think things would be a lot easier if Capak and Bozinovic didn't talk to everyone like they're being threatening or condescending. Most people AREN'T total idiots.

Alright, I have to admit—Capak comes off a little irritatingly condescending, like he's looking down his nose at everyone...

Adam Collins4 said:What are the current infection numbers in Italy, and how many deaths have we seen so far?

Alright, let's keep this moving then—what's the actual mortality rate for the flu?

So, what's the next move then—trying to figure out which one is just a nasty case of the flu and which one is actually the Corona?

I mean, honestly, it really is just like the flu...

🤣

What kind of absolute nonsense are they pulling out of their asses just to ensure that people over 70—who are already dealing with health issues—end up dying from some random virus?

Look, I personally have family members who are well over 70, and I don't want even a single percent of this... just because some people can't seem to stay put at home.

Look, nobody truly knows the real number of infected folks over in Italy. All we really see are the numbers from those being tested—but honestly, until you test the entire population, those figures don't carry much weight. It's like a math trap; if you only test the people who end up dying, you'll end up with a 100% mortality rate!

Mentioning the Diamond Princess is actually a great point because they actually tested everyone on that ship.

For those of you who are finding these current restrictions particularly heavy—and perhaps fearing they might drag on for several more months—allow me to share a brief, somewhat amusing anecdote:

Two elderly gentlemen happen to cross paths on a bridge.
"What is your take on this whole communism situation?"
"Absolutely dreadful!"
"And do you know what could be even worse?"
"What?"
"This could potentially last for months!"

The lesson here: perhaps it would be wise to prepare yourselves for the possibility that certain bans and limitations might simply become our new normal. :-)

Melissa Ward said:Look, nobody truly knows the real number of infected folks over in Italy. All we really see are the numbers from those being tested—but honestly, until you test the entire population, those figures don't carry much weight. It's like a math trap; if you only test the people who end up dying, you'll end up with a 100% mortality rate!

Mentioning the Diamond Princess is actually a great point because they actually tested everyone on that ship.

Look, once you stop cutting my posts short, maybe we can actually have a conversation...

Until then, bye-bye...

The DP isn't a valid comparison because the sample size is way too small...

People who keep banging their heads against the wall—like you, and whoever else is trying to draw parallels to the flu—are basically ignoring every single fact that proves this has nothing to do with the flu...

From the spread velocity and contagiousness levels to the mortality rates and how fast it progresses... not to mention how long this crap lingers on surfaces...

Since when does any strain of influenza stick around for 9 days?

copperwolf16 said:For those of you who are finding these current restrictions particularly heavy—and perhaps fearing they might drag on for several more months—allow me to share a brief, somewhat amusing anecdote:

Two elderly gentlemen happen to cross paths on a bridge.
"What is your take on this whole communism situation?"
"Absolutely dreadful!"
"And do you know what could be even worse?"
"What?"
"This could potentially last for months!"

The lesson here: perhaps it would be wise to prepare yourselves for the possibility that certain bans and limitations might simply become our new normal. :-)

And for those of you acting like there won't be a tomorrow, let me share another one:

Three neighbors walk home—two were out shopping and one was at the pharmacy. All three come back empty-handed because they didn't have the cash to buy what they needed or their medicine.

The lesson here: the Government told them it was for their own good to get some fresh air and maybe forget about being hungry for a while. They also suggested cutting the cake slices thinner.

Adam Collins4 said:Exactly...

The real issue is that everyone is just looking out for their own skin and their own little interests...

If someone actually brought a virus home because they felt they absolutely had to see some girl or hit up the grocery store—since, you know, there's better selection there and plenty of germs—then we’d really see what happens...

I was out on my bike today over at Mrežnica, checking out my favorite brewery and those waterfalls—those cascades—just sitting there thinking how nice it would be to sit down and have a glass of some perfectly chilled Škrlet... and remembering how I used to manage to pull that off from time to time this time last year...

But damn it, it's just not happening... and I'm sure as hell not going to play along...

Exactly, that's just how it is—there’s almost nothing left.
I honestly think about everything people have to endure in life when they're actually pushed to their limits. Here, though, it feels like all this drama is just because people are hitting a breaking point simply because they're back home.
Honestly, the people who complain most are the ones whining about going crazy at home with their kids because "the kids are bored." For crying out loud, entertain them yourself. Talk to them, play with them, read to them... It’s always the same thing. Everyone is constantly bellyaching about work hours or whatever else, claiming they "never have any time for family," but then the second they're actually stuck at home with that very same family, they act like they're losing their minds.

Joshua Gray75 said:I find myself wondering—and I’d love to hear what the rest of you think on this—what exactly drives people to pull the trigger? It isn't just about the impulse... there seems to be something deeper, something more complex behind that split-second decision to resort to violence. Why does it happen?
Well, why don't you just go ahead and ask them... there are plenty of comments right there in the article—I read through them myself, after all—so just ask them why they’re losing it...
I was reading through some reports regarding the upcoming June developments—specifically those concerning the priority shifts within the local government—and it really makes you wonder about the direction we're heading... There seems to be a significant push from the administration to reorganize certain regional priorities, much like how federal agencies might shift focus during a transition period. It’s one of those situations where the bureaucracy moves at its own pace, regardless of what the public actually needs on the ground. You see these high-level discussions in Washington, D.C., and they trickle down until they hit the local county level, often losing all their original intent along the way. It feels a bit like watching a slow-motion collision between policy and reality. One moment everything is supposedly under control, and the next, the entire framework is being restructured under the guise of "optimization." It’s quite a delicate dance, isn't it? One can only hope that the actual impact on everyday citizens isn't as disruptive as the paperwork suggests... though, based on past experience, optimism might be a bit misplaced.

But actually, what I really wanted to write was this: that whole statement about a "quarantine until June"—or however Capak phrased it—feels to me like nothing more than a series of "test balloons"...
Once the restrictions start to ease up—likely well before the middle of May—and Capak becomes the hero we’ll all be cheering for from our balconies...
We would be grateful.🙏

I've seen this play out more times than I can count—but clearly, it still works. It’s that classic "carrot and stick" approach... effective, if nothing else.
Most times, a quick fix just isn't enough to spark lasting change in people—not when you're trying to cultivate genuinely positive attitudes toward their work, their daily routines... or really anything else, for that matter.
But for some reason—it seems to have left its mark on our national mentality...
But then again, I’m certainly no sociologist... let them deal with that side of things.

I really, truly hope you're right about this. But honestly, looking at what's happening right in front of me every single day, I can't help but worry that they might actually be correct.
I mean, honestly, folks, I think it should have been pretty obvious from the get-go when the Government immediately decided to provide pay for workers who aren't going to be working for at least three months—with the option to extend that, too. What were people thinking? Did they suddenly assume the government was just going to start throwing money around like they've got endless pockets?

casualgardener3 said:Look, most people are freaking out because they're terrified for their lives, not because they're comfortable. If things stay this way until June, we're looking at a total catastrophe.

So yeah, while I have massive respect for the healthcare worker who absolutely lost her cool there, she still shouldn't have to worry about her job security.

I'm not a medical professional—thank God, because it sounds like they’ve got it even worse than the rest of us—but my work is tied closely to transportation and everything involved in logistics, including all the cross-border stuff.
Every single semi-truck rolling into the country to restock the shelves passes right by my place. Every one of those drivers is coming from out of state, and honestly, any one of them could be carrying the virus. But here’s the thing—they do this job, and I do this job, just so you can have the luxury of picking out specific brands of ground beef or whatever other junk you feel like buying. We keep things moving so you can walk down an aisle and hand-pick exactly which chicken breast you want, yet people still act like staying home is some impossible task.
None of you have any clue how much of a grind it is for people doing jobs like this, but jbte, you just have to try and keep things as normal as possible.
Those poor drivers are on the road for days on end, practically forbidden from even stepping out of their cabs, and they haven't seen their families in ages—who knows how much longer it'll be. They’re essentially living through something reminiscent of the early '90s, except nobody is shooting at them. But still, nobody gives them credit and nobody seems truly grateful for what they're doing.
What do you think? Would they swap places with those who are about to "snap"?
I'm pretty sure they'd make the switch in a heartbeat.

I get that people are scared for their livelihoods, but most people actually have some kind of safety net, even if it's just the bare minimum.
Honestly, nobody is going to starve, because at the very least, we are a really empathetic nation and someone will always find food for someone in need. Everything else can just wait.
Let's just get through this.

Adam Collins4 said:So, what exactly were you waiting for before finally making the change?

Was it not in my best interest? Or maybe because I split my time between multiple addresses?

Kenneth Jones70 said:Please—just move on from this thread.

If you’re getting a kick out of us being locked down because of some exaggerated nonsense, go find another thread to post in.

Me, along with probably 90% of the sensible people left, agrees that this whole travel ban thing makes zero sense.

Once the government shows they're actually terrified of this flu and starts testing everyone who was near an infected person—instead of just waiting for symptoms to pop up—then maybe I'll believe there's a reason to worry.

Right now, it’s all just overkill that’s going to ruin everything.

This isn't a war, and these stay-at-home orders are about as stupid as it gets.

The media is just pushing doom and gloom; nobody’s talking about the 90% of people recovering at home with barely any symptoms.

Seriously, just drop it and leave this thread alone.

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Even if 30 million people were to die in Italy, that’s only 0.04% of their population. If a similar catastrophe hit the US, we're looking at roughly 1,500 people. A huge chunk of those would likely be critically ill patients who, frankly, wouldn't have survived much longer anyway. It sounds horrific, sure, but we aren't going to lose even 2% of the population.

The sheer level of fear-mongering surrounding this situation is infuriating... and forcing citizens through this ordeal with these permits is pure torture. All of this is just stressing people out, which is arguably worse than the virus itself. People are going to deal with more fallout from the stress of this than from the actual illness.

The priority should be isolating the elderly. Thankfully, my parents understood that; my grandmother already stocked up for Easter so they can spend the next two months staying safe without having to step foot outside.😁

My little troublemakers were feeling pretty mischievous today, so now the yard is spotless...

I’ve got a gut feeling they’ll make smarter choices next time—there are still plenty of "zones" left to clean up...😬

My wife and I had a good laugh watching the little geniuses struggle with the grabbers and all that gear... though, honestly, I ended up just getting worked up myself because it turns out I’ve raised a bunch of damn Lazars... even if that was part of their protest tactic—trying out those "we don't know how to do this" routines...

It didn't work...

wiredotter89 said:Was it not in my best interest? Or maybe because I split my time between multiple addresses?

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Even if 30 million people were to die in Italy, that’s only 0.04% of their population. If a similar catastrophe hit the US, we're looking at roughly 1,500 people. A huge chunk of those would likely be critically ill patients who, frankly, wouldn't have survived much longer anyway. It sounds horrific, sure, but we aren't going to lose even 2% of the population.

The sheer level of fear-mongering surrounding this situation is infuriating... and forcing citizens through this ordeal with these permits is pure torture. All of this is just stressing people out, which is arguably worse than the virus itself. People are going to deal with more fallout from the stress of this than from the actual illness.

The priority should be isolating the elderly. Thankfully, my parents understood that; my grandmother already stocked up for Easter so they can spend the next two months staying safe without having to step foot outside.😁

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So, it just wasn't convenient for you, was it?

But now you're crying about it because your little plans didn't go exactly the way you wanted...

Next time, maybe try using a bit of foresight, and you might actually play your hand better...

Plus, from what I can see, someone here—specifically you—was technically breaking the law because you weren't registered where you were supposed to be...

But hey, as long as you look out for your own backside first, right?

The second part of that is so incredibly selfish I don't even want to waste my breath commenting on it...

Try shifting your focus away from your own self-interest and toward protecting your family—and heaven forbid, keep the infection away from them too... then maybe you'd have something worth singing about.