Quarantine Life

Alexander Phillips3 said:And why on earth would I make that up?

That penalty only holds water if they catch them on some other public or private property... or if there's unbiased testimony presented during the trial.

Angela Chavez11 said:That penalty only holds water if they catch them on some other public or private property... or if there's unbiased testimony presented during the trial.

Then why on earth is the police force driving around checking on people in quarantine at home, forcing them to wave through their windows?

Alexander Phillips3 said:Then why on earth is the police force driving around checking on people in quarantine at home, forcing them to wave through their windows?

Haven't seen a police patrol like that in 30 years.

Where does it say you have to wave through a window? It just says you aren't allowed to leave your location—though we're seeing more exceptions lately, but that's a whole other discussion.

You claimed it’s a fact that if, say, the police knock and nobody answers, a fine is automatically issued. Even if a fine is issued, it can be contested in court.

All in all, aside from those few spring incidents that were basically media stunts for publicity, the police are handling this professionally and rationally. Same goes for the CDC. No need for folk wisdom or anecdotal "facts." The institutions have things under control.

Angela Chavez11 said:Haven't seen a police patrol like that in 30 years.

Where does it say you have to wave through a window? It just says you aren't allowed to leave your location—though we're seeing more exceptions lately, but that's a whole other discussion.

You claimed it’s a fact that if, say, the police knock and nobody answers, a fine is automatically issued. Even if a fine is issued, it can be contested in court.

All in all, aside from those few spring incidents that were basically media stunts for publicity, the police are handling this professionally and rationally. Same goes for the CDC. No need for folk wisdom or anecdotal "facts." The institutions have things under control.

What’s even the point of self-isolation if you're just going to bark at everyone online? Who knows where people end up? Why are they even knocking on doors and checking apartments to see who's home? Honestly, go ahead, keep playing the internet warrior. It suits you.🙂

Alexander Phillips3 said:What’s even the point of self-isolation if you're just going to bark at everyone online? Who knows where people end up? Why are they even knocking on doors and checking apartments to see who's home? Honestly, go ahead, keep playing the internet warrior. It suits you.🙂

You're missing way too much for someone who claims to be working with "facts"... 😉

Don't sweat it. The agencies are doing their jobs, and right now, they’re doing a stellar job here in America...

Angela Chavez11 said:You're missing way too much for someone who claims to be working with "facts"... 😉

Don't sweat it. The agencies are doing their jobs, and right now, they’re doing a stellar job here in America...

Are there elections on the horizon or something? Seems like the trolls have already been activated. God bless the establishment, I guess.🤣

From the CDC website:

CAN SOMEONE IN SELF-ISOLATION WITHOUT SYMPTOMS GO FOR A WALK IN THE PARK?

You really need to steer clear of close contact with anyone you run into. Avoid shaking hands, and make sure you maintain a decent distance from others—I suppose that means at least three feet if you're outdoors and about six feet when you're inside.

So what about that poor guy driving his tractor toward his own field only to get hit with $2667 fines? I mean, seriously—he’s basically a bioterrorist at this point, isn't he? Or maybe I'm overreacting... who knows.

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silentskipper3 said:So, I saw this guy asking if he’s allowed to walk his dog. He lives in a house and has been taking the dog out really early, like before 5 AM, and then super late at night. Apparently, they just told him he can't get near anyone, and while he was out, he was wearing a mask—and I don't mean some scrap of fabric, I mean an actual, legitimate face mask.
If you ask me, I think he's doing just fine.

Of course, from your perspective, it makes total sense—you head out alone into the woods, you aren't going to run into anyone, you aren't a threat to anyone, so why bother being stuck inside? It seems pointless to be penalized for that.

The problem is, here in the States, people are getting arrested constantly just for stepping out to a grocery store or a local pub. Since there is no way to monitor whether you actually took a responsible solo hike into the forest or if you actually headed out drunk with a group of friends, the only way to maintain any kind of order is to mandate that everyone stays home. At the end of the day, you have to consider those unplanned scenarios—like if you pass out or have an emergency, and an ambulance picks you up and rushes you to a nearby ER where you might end up infecting the medical staff along the way...

Nicole James said:Of course, from your perspective, it makes total sense—you head out alone into the woods, you aren't going to run into anyone, you aren't a threat to anyone, so why bother being stuck inside? It seems pointless to be penalized for that.

The problem is, here in the States, people are getting arrested constantly just for stepping out to a grocery store or a local pub. Since there is no way to monitor whether you actually took a responsible solo hike into the forest or if you actually headed out drunk with a group of friends, the only way to maintain any kind of order is to mandate that everyone stays home. At the end of the day, you have to consider those unplanned scenarios—like if you pass out or have an emergency, and an ambulance picks you up and rushes you to a nearby ER where you might end up infecting the medical staff along the way...

That applies to those who actually tested positive, not healthy people staying home.

Angela Chavez11 said:That applies to those who actually tested positive, not healthy people staying home.

The reality is that anyone in self-isolation should be considered potentially infectious.

Nicole James said:The reality is that anyone in self-isolation should be considered potentially infectious.

Fine, but they aren't being arrested. Just confirmed cases.

Good evening!
I was notified today that my daughter has to go into mandatory isolation because someone in her class tested positive.
Since there’s nobody else available to look after her (she's 9), I’ll need to take sick leave. However, when I reached out to my primary care physician about getting a doctor's note, she refused to issue one without a recommendation from a pediatrician first. From what I've been reading online, though, a formal recommendation shouldn't even be necessary in a situation like this.
Has anyone else dealt with this? What were your experiences?

Nicole James said:Of course, from your perspective, it makes total sense—you head out alone into the woods, you aren't going to run into anyone, you aren't a threat to anyone, so why bother being stuck inside? It seems pointless to be penalized for that.

The problem is, here in the States, people are getting arrested constantly just for stepping out to a grocery store or a local pub. Since there is no way to monitor whether you actually took a responsible solo hike into the forest or if you actually headed out drunk with a group of friends, the only way to maintain any kind of order is to mandate that everyone stays home. At the end of the day, you have to consider those unplanned scenarios—like if you pass out or have an emergency, and an ambulance picks you up and rushes you to a nearby ER where you might end up infecting the medical staff along the way...

It’s also pretty much impossible for them to track whether someone is dropping by your house for a visit.
It’s the same logic as if you were working in your garden and got hurt, so the ambulance has to come pick you up—I mean, hopefully the hospital staff has some extra protection during this crazy health crisis!
The folks in charge of these regulations should probably be a little more flexible with how they enforce things and hand out fines. Like, if they catch someone at a crowded bar, okay, fine, maybe issue a penalty if they're sick and contagious. But if someone just goes for a walk in nature to get away from everyone, they really shouldn't be getting punished for that. Even the epidemiologists don't seem to mind, and we all know that getting some fresh air is actually good for you when dealing with a virus.

Angela Chavez11 said:Fine, but they aren't being arrested. Just confirmed cases.

So, what kind of flexibility is Lawrence Reed3 actually talking about here?

Lawrence Reed3 said:It’s also pretty much impossible for them to track whether someone is dropping by your house for a visit.
It’s the same logic as if you were working in your garden and got hurt, so the ambulance has to come pick you up—I mean, hopefully the hospital staff has some extra protection during this crazy health crisis!
The folks in charge of these regulations should probably be a little more flexible with how they enforce things and hand out fines. Like, if they catch someone at a crowded bar, okay, fine, maybe issue a penalty if they're sick and contagious. But if someone just goes for a walk in nature to get away from everyone, they really shouldn't be getting punished for that. Even the epidemiologists don't seem to mind, and we all know that getting some fresh air is actually good for you when dealing with a virus.

Of course, they only control what is actually controllable.

Nicole James said:So, what kind of flexibility is Lawrence Reed3 actually talking about here?

There were plenty of instances where infected people got arrested—mostly just for the cameras—but healthy people breaking quarantine? They weren't being picked up...

swiftlynx34 said:Good evening!
I was notified today that my daughter has to go into mandatory isolation because someone in her class tested positive.
Since there’s nobody else available to look after her (she's 9), I’ll need to take sick leave. However, when I reached out to my primary care physician about getting a doctor's note, she refused to issue one without a recommendation from a pediatrician first. From what I've been reading online, though, a formal recommendation shouldn't even be necessary in a situation like this.
Has anyone else dealt with this? What were your experiences?

Once kids reach school age, they aren't really under a pediatrician's care anymore, so I don't quite get what she's looking for. I actually had to take leave myself this year to look after my kid (who's 11), and my sick leave was approved without any issues. The only difference is we share the same family practitioner.

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mellowskipper said:Once kids reach school age, they aren't really under a pediatrician's care anymore, so I don't quite get what she's looking for. I actually had to take leave myself this year to look after my kid (who's 11), and my sick leave was approved without any issues. The only difference is we share the same family practitioner.

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The issue is that she’s still under the care of a pediatrician who isn't responding to my messages, and my own primary physician is refusing to authorize my leave without a specific recommendation. However, from what I've been reading, a formal recommendation shouldn't even be necessary in a situation like this...

Angela Chavez11 said:There were plenty of instances where infected people got arrested—mostly just for the cameras—but healthy people breaking quarantine? They weren't being picked up...

There were also times when people used doctor's excuses to get out of their isolation periods.
It was definitely one of the most straightforward ways to handle things.👍