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wiredseal7 wiredseal7 Regular
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joined Jan 2009
#841 ·
mellowskipper said:It's more likely the father just got sick leave rather than actual isolation orders.

Actually, a buddy and his wife had to isolate with their kid because the other kid at daycare tested positive. So there they were—forced into isolation as third-degree contacts, if you want to paraphrase. 😵

It’s likely because kids rarely show symptoms—or they're so mild people don't even bother reporting them—plus, trying to catch that tiny window when they actually test positive is nearly impossible.

Disclaimer: I didn't hear this directly from the source, just a secondhand account—so take it with a grain of salt.
Lawrence Reed3 Lawrence Reed3 Active Member
141 messages
joined Dec 2021
#842 ·
wiredseal7 said:Actually, a buddy and his wife had to isolate with their kid because the other kid at daycare tested positive. So there they were—forced into isolation as third-degree contacts, if you want to paraphrase. 😵

It’s likely because kids rarely show symptoms—or they're so mild people don't even bother reporting them—plus, trying to catch that tiny window when they actually test positive is nearly impossible.

Disclaimer: I didn't hear this directly from the source, just a secondhand account—so take it with a grain of salt.

Honestly, what kind of nonsense is that? If you're actually sick or were right in the middle of it, sure, fine—but forcing people into isolation who weren't even really in contact doesn't make any sense... I mean, there's a reason why people don't bother following isolation rules when it feels totally pointless.
coastaltiger7 coastaltiger7 Member
32 messages
joined Dec 2020
#843 ·
wiredseal7 said:Actually, a buddy and his wife had to isolate with their kid because the other kid at daycare tested positive. So there they were—forced into isolation as third-degree contacts, if you want to paraphrase. 😵

It’s likely because kids rarely show symptoms—or they're so mild people don't even bother reporting them—plus, trying to catch that tiny window when they actually test positive is nearly impossible.

Disclaimer: I didn't hear this directly from the source, just a secondhand account—so take it with a grain of salt.

Man, I don't believe this.
In this situation under US guidelines, only the child whose mom is sick goes into isolation. Not their friends from daycare, and definitely not the parents. That's assuming the kid of the sick mom is healthy, obviously.
We dealt with plenty of cases like that at the daycare.
Drew Gonzalez75 Drew Gonzalez75 Active Member
64 messages
joined Sep 2008
#844 ·
It’s a pretty decent incentive, considering vaccinated people don't have to deal with isolation:
driftingranger2 driftingranger2 Active Member
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joined Apr 2022
#845 ·
Unless they were in close contact with someone who actually tested positive for that South African strain.
nimbleranger17 nimbleranger17 Active Member
175 messages
joined Jan 2023
#846 ·
But you’re still forced into quarantine even if three months have slipped by since your bout with COVID-19, regardless of the fact that you’ve still got a massive stockpile of antibodies circulating in your system...

That three-month window has already closed for the vast majority of citizens who caught it back in November and December—which, let's be honest, was when the absolute peak of the chaos hit us and everyone was getting hit at once...

And I remember clearly, they were making all these grand proclamations about extending that period to at least six months, yet here we are, and they haven't budged an inch; if it's been three months since you were sick, you're still stuck in isolation, even if your immune system is basically a fortress of antibodies...
neoncyclist792 neoncyclist792 Member
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joined Mar 2021
#847 ·
Has there been any update regarding how long self-isolation actually lasts? My husband tested positive for COVID-19, and since we live in the same household, he hasn't been isolating himself from us. His doctor told everyone that the isolation period is just 10 days starting from when his symptoms first showed up. To me, that feels a little bit off—theoretically, we could still catch it from him on, say, the eighth day. I called the doctor back to double-check, and the nurse just repeated the exact same thing twice. I honestly don't know if they realized we're constantly in each other's space, even though I made sure to mention that a few times.
wiredseal7 wiredseal7 Regular
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joined Jan 2009
#848 ·
coastaltiger7 said:Man, I don't believe this.
In this situation under US guidelines, only the child whose mom is sick goes into isolation. Not their friends from daycare, and definitely not the parents. That's assuming the kid of the sick mom is healthy, obviously.
We dealt with plenty of cases like that at the daycare.

I can confirm what I wrote wasn't actually the case—just a bad retelling.
mellownomad7 mellownomad7 Active Member
102 messages
joined Feb 2023
#849 ·
The CDC just dropped new guidelines on testing and quarantine. Basically, if you’ve been in contact with someone carrying one of these new COVID-19 variants, they're bumping that quarantine period up to 14 days.
Changes:

Getting vaccinated against COVID-19 counts as a valid reason to skip quarantine and testing after being around someone who's sick, just like having already had the virus.

If you're working closely with high-risk groups or part of a tight-knit team, getting tested is probably a smart move.

With testing capacity up and case numbers finally dropping, there's really no reason to be picky about who gets tested if they're actually showing symptoms. Just let people get checked.
The protocol for anyone who’s been in close contact with someone positive.

To keep this thing from spreading, anyone who was close to someone infected is being sent to the CDC for quarantine and self-isolation.

If you’re part of a tight-knit crew or work around folks who are high-risk, you should probably grab a PCR or a rapid antigen test within five days of being exposed. Just a heads-up: if the test comes back negative, it doesn't change your quarantine timeline. But if it hits positive, then we've got to follow protocol and process all the close contacts of whoever tested positive.

If you’ve been in close contact with someone positive, the CDC says you need to quarantine or self-isolate for 10 days starting from that last encounter.

If you're living with someone sick and there’s no way to separate—like when parents are stuck caring for a sick kid—the household contacts have to quarantine for 10 days after their last contact with the patient. If you're stuck in constant close proximity, that window jumps to 20 days (basically the 10 days they're contagious plus another 10 days of precaution). This assumes the patient meets the criteria to end their isolation after ten days and that the contacts don't start showing symptoms, which is something your primary care doctor will need to clear.

If someone’s medical history or a quick screening test flags them for a variant that spreads faster or looks different from what's currently circulating, the contact quarantine is set at 14 days. Right now, we're looking at those variants coming out of the United Kingdom, Brazil, and South Africa. If the ongoing genome sequencing shows the United Kingdom variant has already taken over the population, then the extended quarantine won't apply to close contacts of those specific cases.

Once quarantine's over, you don't need to bother testing unless you actually start feeling sick. The only exception is if you're immunocompromised and working in healthcare or at nursing homes and care facilities for the elderly or disabled—in those cases, they’ll want you to go with a PCR test.

If you're immunocompromised and working in healthcare or senior care facilities—like nursing homes or assisted living—there’s a way back to work early. If you stayed asymptomatic throughout your quarantine period, you can end it on day 10. Just get a PCR test to confirm you're negative, and you're good to go. Follow the CDC guidelines on this one.

If someone in quarantine starts showing symptoms that look like COVID-19, they need to get tested for SARS-CoV-2 immediately. Until those results actually come back, just treat them as if they’ve already tested positive. You can use either a rapid antigen test or a PCR test to figure it out.
What counts as close contact?

Living under the same roof as someone with COVID-19? Yeah, that’s a tough one.

Direct physical contact with someone who has COVID-19.

Touching someone with COVID-19 without any protection—like if they cough right in your face or you grab their used tissues with bare hands—is definitely an issue.

Being face-to-face with someone who has COVID-19—less than six feet away for more than 15 minutes.

Being stuck in an enclosed space (like a classroom, a conference room, or a clinic waiting area) with someone who has COVID-19—specifically if you're within six feet of them for more than 15 minutes. Even staying further than six feet might count as close contact depending on things like whether they’re showing symptoms, if masks are being worn, or how well the room is ventilated. Every single indoor encounter needs its own call.

Healthcare workers, anyone providing direct care to a COVID-19 patient, or lab staff handling samples without the right PPE—or if there was a slip-up with the gear.

Sitting on a plane or in another vehicle within two seats of an infected person (front, back, or side). This includes travel companions or caregivers. Flight crews in the same section could also be considered close contacts if the patient's condition or movement suggests higher exposure.

Keep in mind that every specific situation needs a custom epidemiological risk assessment. Guidelines can change if there’s a solid medical reason to deviate.
You don't need to be under health surveillance or quarantine if:

You had a lab-confirmed case of COVID-19 (via PCR or antigen test) within the last three months and met the requirements to end isolation.

Based on clear history and clinical signs, you were classified as a probable COVID-19 case (like a family member living with a confirmed patient who developed typical symptoms during quarantine) within the last three months and met the criteria to stop isolating.

It’s been more than 14 days but less than three months since you got your second dose of a COVID-19 vaccine. Since shots don't totally stop asymptomatic spread, vaccinated people who have close contact with a sick person need to stick strictly to transmission reduction measures for the next two weeks. Especially if you work in a hospital or a nursing home, those vaccinated contacts have to wear N95 masks without exceptions, keep their distance whenever possible, and stay on top of hand hygiene to protect patients, residents, and coworkers. For those two weeks, vaccinated close contacts shouldn't join in on activities where masks come off, like grabbing coffee or lunch in a breakroom. If symptoms pop up, you isolate and get tested for SARS-CoV-2. One exception is for people suspected of having a variant that current vaccines don't hit as hard—right now, we're looking at that South African variant.
Criteria for ending isolation for COVID-19 patients

These guidelines are based on what we currently know about how long people stay contagious with SARS-CoV-2, so they're subject to change. Decisions on when to stop isolating are based on when symptoms first showed up and how long they lasted, or the date of testing, depending on whether the infection was symptomatic or asymptomatic.

Ending isolation is mostly about the clinical picture and how much time has passed since the illness started, rather than just test results.
Asymptomatic COVID-19 patients

For people with no symptoms, the recommendation is to end isolation 10 days after the first positive SARS-CoV-2 test, provided no symptoms develop during that window. If symptoms do show up, you switch to the symptomatic criteria, using the onset of symptoms as your starting point.
Symptomatic COVID-19 patient with mild or moderate symptoms, not immunocompromised

For someone dealing with mild or moderate COVID-19 who isn't immunocompromised, you can wrap up isolation once you hit these marks:

You've gone at least three days in a row without a fever (and without leaning on meds to keep it down), plus your other symptoms have noticeably cleared up;

And it’s been at least 10 days since the first day you felt sick.

https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/about/isolation.html
Donna Ramos54 Donna Ramos54 Newcomer
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#850 ·
My mom works at a pharmacy out in the Midwest, and she tells me that people regularly come in picking up meds for some contagious bug—and then their spouse, who lives right there in the same house, pops in right after. They aren't officially ordered into isolation or anything by the CDC, so they just play dumb and pretend they didn't catch it.
Tyler Ruiz502 Tyler Ruiz502 Active Member
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joined May 2018
#851 ·
How exactly do they handle quarantine checks, and under which specific law are you actually required to open the door for a cop?

I mean, seriously—under what law am I obligated to get off my couch just because someone rings the doorbell? You could be halfway across the yard, tucked away in the garden, hiding in the garage, or even out in the barn—plus if you have a high privacy wall and two Belgian Malinois, and a doorbell that barely works...
Rachel Garcia Rachel Garcia Active Member
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#852 ·
nimbleranger17 said:But you’re still forced into quarantine even if three months have slipped by since your bout with COVID-19, regardless of the fact that you’ve still got a massive stockpile of antibodies circulating in your system...

That three-month window has already closed for the vast majority of citizens who caught it back in November and December—which, let's be honest, was when the absolute peak of the chaos hit us and everyone was getting hit at once...

And I remember clearly, they were making all these grand proclamations about extending that period to at least six months, yet here we are, and they haven't budged an inch; if it's been three months since you were sick, you're still stuck in isolation, even if your immune system is basically a fortress of antibodies...

I wasn't sent into isolation myself, despite recovering from COVID-19 in December and having antibodies and confirmed contact with a positive case. When the CDC official called, he checked my release date from previous isolation and noted it had been less than three months, so I was cleared. He just advised avoiding high-risk individuals in enclosed spaces for a few days.
nimbleranger17 nimbleranger17 Active Member
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joined Jan 2023
#853 ·
It’s exactly what I was getting at—you don't go into self-isolation if it hasn't even been three months yet, which is precisely what you just pointed out...

Tyler Ruiz502 said:How exactly do they handle quarantine checks, and under which specific law are you actually required to open the door for a cop?

I mean, seriously—under what law am I obligated to get off my couch just because someone rings the doorbell? You could be halfway across the yard, tucked away in the garden, hiding in the garage, or even out in the barn—plus if you have a high privacy wall and two Belgian Malinois, and a doorbell that barely works...

The truth is, you don't have to open the door for a cop if you simply don't feel like it.
mellowskipper mellowskipper Regular
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joined Jan 2023
#854 ·
Tyler Ruiz502 said:How exactly do they handle quarantine checks, and under which specific law are you actually required to open the door for a cop?

I mean, seriously—under what law am I obligated to get off my couch just because someone rings the doorbell? You could be halfway across the yard, tucked away in the garden, hiding in the garage, or even out in the barn—plus if you have a high privacy wall and two Belgian Malinois, and a doorbell that barely works...

They aren't really doing those checks anymore, at least not here in Los Angeles. I suppose I don't know about the smaller towns.
Matthew Garcia2 Matthew Garcia2 Member
32 messages
joined Feb 2018
#855 ·
Tyler Ruiz502 said:How exactly do they handle quarantine checks, and under which specific law are you actually required to open the door for a cop?

I mean, seriously—under what law am I obligated to get off my couch just because someone rings the doorbell? You could be halfway across the yard, tucked away in the garden, hiding in the garage, or even out in the barn—plus if you have a high privacy wall and two Belgian Malinois, and a doorbell that barely works...

The Public Health Service Act.

Look, once an isolation order is issued, you are legally obligated to provide the address where you'll be quarantining, and they absolutely have the right to verify that you are actually there.
Jack Gray6 Jack Gray6 Member
10 messages
joined Jun 2018
#856 ·
Is there any way to check exactly when someone's mandatory isolation period expires?
We haven't received a single email from the CDC. Some parents got notices stating an end date of March 22nd at midnight, while our daycare sent us a notification saying we're out until the 24th.
Matthew Garcia2 Matthew Garcia2 Member
32 messages
joined Feb 2018
#857 ·
Jack Gray6 said:Is there any way to check exactly when someone's mandatory isolation period expires?
We haven't received a single email from the CDC. Some parents got notices stating an end date of March 22nd at midnight, while our daycare sent us a notification saying we're out until the 24th.

Your pediatrician or a doctor should be able to pull that up.
Plus, a pharmacist can check using your MBO. 🙂

The timelines probably vary because people were last exposed to an infected person at different times—like maybe March 12th or the 14th.
lonepilot54 lonepilot54 Newcomer
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joined Mar 2021
#858 ·
Honestly, I think I just witnessed the most brainless move of the entire year... some woman literally sat down on the bus right after testing positive for COVID-19. Just total madness...
Frank Martin2 Frank Martin2 Member
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#859 ·
lonepilot54 said:Honestly, I think I just witnessed the most brainless move of the entire year... some woman literally sat down on the bus right after testing positive for COVID-19. Just total madness...

Now, imagine you’re an elderly person with some health issues sitting in a hospital, 9.3 miles and you find out from your medical results that you’ve tested positive.

You don't have a car, you don't have cash—and even if you did, you can't just call an Uber home because you'll end up infecting the driver or whoever you might ask for a ride. (And honestly, plenty of seniors live alone these days; family moves away, and any friends they do have are usually in the exact same boat.)

So, what are you supposed to do? Request a specialized medical transport vehicle that actually meets CDC safety standards? 🤣

Seriously, tell me how someone in that position is even expected to get back home to quarantine.
wanderingbadger77 wanderingbadger77 Active Member
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joined Oct 2018
#860 ·
Frank Martin2 said:Now, imagine you’re an elderly person with some health issues sitting in a hospital, 9.3 miles and you find out from your medical results that you’ve tested positive.

You don't have a car, you don't have cash—and even if you did, you can't just call an Uber home because you'll end up infecting the driver or whoever you might ask for a ride. (And honestly, plenty of seniors live alone these days; family moves away, and any friends they do have are usually in the exact same boat.)

So, what are you supposed to do? Request a specialized medical transport vehicle that actually meets CDC safety standards? 🤣

Seriously, tell me how someone in that position is even expected to get back home to quarantine.

What a ridiculous comparison.

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