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Suicide prevention awareness: Curiosity-driven attempts

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Chloe Moore5 Chloe Moore5 Member
23 messages
joined Sep 2012
#81 ·
You can tell just by your tone that you came here looking for a fight, trying to play the big man. Just drop the whole communist crimes routine and give a nod to the leaders who actually tried to wipe out fascism. We "powerless trolls" without any real arguments would love to dive into the actual title topic...

So, basically, you ban authors from suicide-by-curiosity until they hit a certain age, then suggest they skip the hanging or jumping off buildings and go straight for a dose of morphine instead. It’s much easier on everyone that way.
Until then, maybe try looking at things from our perspective...
neonmarlin39 neonmarlin39 Active Member
139 messages
joined May 2019
#82 ·
Chloe Moore5 said:You can tell just by your tone that you came here looking for a fight, trying to play the big man. Just drop the whole communist crimes routine and give a nod to the leaders who actually tried to wipe out fascism. We "powerless trolls" without any real arguments would love to dive into the actual title topic...

So, basically, you ban authors from suicide-by-curiosity until they hit a certain age, then suggest they skip the hanging or jumping off buildings and go straight for a dose of morphine instead. It’s much easier on everyone that way.
Until then, maybe try looking at things from our perspective...

Just because I’m trying to be logical and sane while dealing with trolls doesn't mean I'm the one starting this. It’s pretty obvious who's kicking things off, who's being insulting, and who's trolling. Like look at Joseph Bailey41 just hallucinating and trolling, then acting like nothing happened when someone points out those hallucinations. If anyone actually stays objective—unlike some people who clearly just hopped onto this thread specifically to hunt you down 😉—they'll see what's happening.

Honestly, I don't give a damn about all the atrocities—fascist, communist, capitalist, Nazi, whatever. We were mostly talking about Stalin and Mao Zedong if you really want to get into it, so I don't see why I should be thanking them. That's like saying I should thank Hitler. You're talking nonsense.

Chloe Moore5 said:You can tell just by your tone that you came here looking for a fight, trying to play the big man. Just drop the whole communist crimes routine and give a nod to the leaders who actually tried to wipe out fascism. We "powerless trolls" without any real arguments would love to dive into the actual title topic...

So, basically, you ban authors from suicide-by-curiosity until they hit a certain age, then suggest they skip the hanging or jumping off buildings and go straight for a dose of morphine instead. It’s much easier on everyone that way.
Until then, maybe try looking at things from our perspective...

Whatever, go ahead. Feel free to post about the actual subject instead of making everything about me like you guys started doing (seriously, check the thread; some people haven't even touched the topic, they just swooped in with insults 😁)...
Joseph Bailey41 Joseph Bailey41 Veteran
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joined Apr 2021
#83 ·
neonmarlin39 said:Just because I’m trying to be logical and sane while dealing with trolls doesn't mean I'm the one starting this. It’s pretty obvious who's kicking things off, who's being insulting, and who's trolling. Like look at Joseph Bailey41 just hallucinating and trolling, then acting like nothing happened when someone points out those hallucinations. If anyone actually stays objective—unlike some people who clearly just hopped onto this thread specifically to hunt you down 😉—they'll see what's happening.

Honestly, I don't give a damn about all the atrocities—fascist, communist, capitalist, Nazi, whatever. We were mostly talking about Stalin and Mao Zedong if you really want to get into it, so I don't see why I should be thanking them. That's like saying I should thank Hitler. You're talking nonsense.

Whatever, go ahead. Feel free to post about the actual subject instead of making everything about me like you guys started doing (seriously, check the thread; some people haven't even touched the topic, they just swooped in with insults 😁)...

🥱

You can do better than that.
Chloe Moore5 Chloe Moore5 Member
23 messages
joined Sep 2012
#84 ·
🤦 Let's just drop this stuff from yesterday and get back to what we actually came here to talk about.
neonmarlin39 neonmarlin39 Active Member
139 messages
joined May 2019
#85 ·
Joseph Bailey41 said:🥱

You can do better than that.

But honestly, looks like you can't. You're still stuck in that same pathetic trolling mode of yours. 👎
Joseph Bailey41 Joseph Bailey41 Veteran
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#86 ·
Chloe Moore5 said:You can tell just by your tone that you came here looking for a fight, trying to play the big man. Just drop the whole communist crimes routine and give a nod to the leaders who actually tried to wipe out fascism. We "powerless trolls" without any real arguments would love to dive into the actual title topic...

So, basically, you ban authors from suicide-by-curiosity until they hit a certain age, then suggest they skip the hanging or jumping off buildings and go straight for a dose of morphine instead. It’s much easier on everyone that way.
Until then, maybe try looking at things from our perspective...

From what I can tell, that’s actually what they’re attempting... treating thoughts about suicide as nothing more than a mental exercise. It reminds me of how Osho used to suggest his followers visualize their own deaths right before falling asleep just to drift off. Or like those ascetic types who wander through cremation grounds and drink from skulls. Even shamans "travel" to the afterlife to consult with deceased ancestors for advice on solving modern problems.

All of that is fine, I guess... but honestly, life here is interesting enough as it is, and death will find us when it finds us eventually.
Joseph Bailey41 Joseph Bailey41 Veteran
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#87 ·
neonmarlin39 said:But honestly, looks like you can't. You're still stuck in that same pathetic trolling mode of yours. 👎

Just quit. Seriously, just quit. There's no way you're winning this one.
Chloe Moore5 Chloe Moore5 Member
23 messages
joined Sep 2012
#88 ·
Reading through everyone else's posts, I'm not really getting an experimental vibe... feels more like I'm just trying to convince myself...
neonmarlin39 neonmarlin39 Active Member
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joined May 2019
#89 ·
Joseph Bailey41 said:Just quit. Seriously, just quit. There's no way you're winning this one.

What battle are we even talking about here? I'm not even doing anything—you're just out here trolling and hallucinating on your own. Honestly, you basically beat yourself since you ran out of actual arguments or common sense. And trust me, this isn't the first time you've done this, nor am I the only person who's called you out on your trolling before.

Wait, why are you making this all about me when we're in this specific thread? Come on, let's see if you can actually count...
Chloe Moore5 Chloe Moore5 Member
23 messages
joined Sep 2012
#90 ·
Pure delusions.
Joseph Bailey41 Joseph Bailey41 Veteran
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joined Apr 2021
#91 ·
neonmarlin39 said:What battle are we even talking about here? I'm not even doing anything—you're just out here trolling and hallucinating on your own. Honestly, you basically beat yourself since you ran out of actual arguments or common sense. And trust me, this isn't the first time you've done this, nor am I the only person who's called you out on your trolling before.

Wait, why are you making this all about me when we're in this specific thread? Come on, let's see if you can actually count...

You really aren't doing okay. But honestly, I'm not going to waste my energy on it.
neonmarlin39 neonmarlin39 Active Member
139 messages
joined May 2019
#92 ·
Joseph Bailey41 said:You really aren't doing okay. But honestly, I'm not going to waste my energy on it.

Man, you've been trolling for God knows how many posts now, but you're still stuck in whatever fantasy world you've built for yourself. It's like you're obsessed or something instead of just moving on. 😁 Have you even realized how many times you've brought me up in this specific thread? And then you have the nerve to say you "don't want to deal with me"? 😁
silentcobra80 silentcobra80 Member
15 messages
joined Apr 2016
#93 ·
Well, I popped in here just to read this thread. The title caught my eye, and I was genuinely curious about what drives the OP to feel this way. But the author is staying silent while things descend into absolute chaos here. So, if you'll permit me, I’ll offer my take on this whole brawl as someone completely neutral who doesn't actually know any of you—well, except for Joseph Bailey41, whom I've had some lovely chats with during those rare moments I post here or over on Alternative.

neonmarlin39, I think your take on the universe missed the mark. I'm alone in this, but I believe others understood exactly what Peanut meant. I suspect you understood it too, but your ego is getting in the way... so you keep pushing, turning everyone against you until, without even intending to be insulting, you end up sounding like an old busybody. I don't mean to offend you; honestly, I used to be exactly like that, especially in sports debates or on other forums. I used to pull that "I've settled all you guys" routine, too. But eventually, I mellowed out. Now I avoid those fights, and more importantly, I can admit when I've messed up or misread a situation, which happens. Maybe you're just young, or maybe you're just high-strung like I was—unable to let things go and digging your heels in even when you're wrong. It's all ego. Don't sweat it, though; it's easy to move past if you want to. You aren't stupid or anything; you're just a bit exhausting, much like I once was.

Since you all brought up Communist atrocities, I should comment on that too. Of course, we should be grateful they liberated us from Fascist terror, but that absolutely does not mean their own crimes should be ignored or swept under the rug. As someone with history in my blood—someone who has worked with top-tier historians, treats history as a hobby, and spent a chapter of my life researching both general history and the specific history of my hometown—I can tell you they committed horrific crimes, including looting the people and plenty of other evils. One power was simply swapped for another. They created a system where, over time, people might have lived more securely than they do today, but that's true of any regime. Still, the crimes were real and shouldn't be dismissed just because they ended the terror. Thinking otherwise is fundamentally flawed.

As for the actual topic, you've all said it. The OP needs to realize there is so much beauty in life; there's really no point in ending it all when death is coming for us regardless.

So, that's basically the least said about the subject, unfortunately. It's proof of how quickly a thread goes off the rails when people overdo it.
Elizabeth Castillo87 Elizabeth Castillo87 Active Member
93 messages
joined Jun 2012
#94 ·
Sean Mitchell said:Is it worth it? Or is it just a waste of time?

I can't help but wonder what's actually hiding "behind the curtain."

It’s not worth it.
From everything I’ve seen, you just wake up back at some previous point in your life and the whole cycle starts all over again—except you don't remember a damn thing, so you're just doomed to trip over the same stones twice.
neonmarlin39 neonmarlin39 Active Member
139 messages
joined May 2019
#95 ·
silentcobra80 said:Well, I popped in here just to read this thread. The title caught my eye, and I was genuinely curious about what drives the OP to feel this way. But the author is staying silent while things descend into absolute chaos here. So, if you'll permit me, I’ll offer my take on this whole brawl as someone completely neutral who doesn't actually know any of you—well, except for Joseph Bailey41, whom I've had some lovely chats with during those rare moments I post here or over on Alternative.

neonmarlin39, I think your take on the universe missed the mark. I'm alone in this, but I believe others understood exactly what Peanut meant. I suspect you understood it too, but your ego is getting in the way... so you keep pushing, turning everyone against you until, without even intending to be insulting, you end up sounding like an old busybody. I don't mean to offend you; honestly, I used to be exactly like that, especially in sports debates or on other forums. I used to pull that "I've settled all you guys" routine, too. But eventually, I mellowed out. Now I avoid those fights, and more importantly, I can admit when I've messed up or misread a situation, which happens. Maybe you're just young, or maybe you're just high-strung like I was—unable to let things go and digging your heels in even when you're wrong. It's all ego. Don't sweat it, though; it's easy to move past if you want to. You aren't stupid or anything; you're just a bit exhausting, much like I once was.

Since you all brought up Communist atrocities, I should comment on that too. Of course, we should be grateful they liberated us from Fascist terror, but that absolutely does not mean their own crimes should be ignored or swept under the rug. As someone with history in my blood—someone who has worked with top-tier historians, treats history as a hobby, and spent a chapter of my life researching both general history and the specific history of my hometown—I can tell you they committed horrific crimes, including looting the people and plenty of other evils. One power was simply swapped for another. They created a system where, over time, people might have lived more securely than they do today, but that's true of any regime. Still, the crimes were real and shouldn't be dismissed just because they ended the terror. Thinking otherwise is fundamentally flawed.

As for the actual topic, you've all said it. The OP needs to realize there is so much beauty in life; there's really no point in ending it all when death is coming for us regardless.

So, that's basically the least said about the subject, unfortunately. It's proof of how quickly a thread goes off the rails when people overdo it.

I don't get why everyone gets so sensitive when someone makes a joke about space—it’s basically just cosmic spirituality at this point. Look, on a forum like this, what actually matters is the argument. I have zero patience for rudeness, trolling, or people just talking nonsense to hear themselves speak. And honestly? I'm not being "cranky" or acting like a kid—believe me, I'm definitely not 15—it’s just a calculated reaction. You might not totally get where I'm coming from, but I know what I'm doing. I decided to hang out here and post for a bit on my own terms. If I snap at a rude troll, it’s because they won't back off or they're just being straight-up obnoxious. Just look at that post by Joseph Bailey41 right under my previous one. I'm always down for a real, constructive conversation, but if you take a quick look around this board, you'll see those are getting harder and harder to find. It feels like decent discourse is becoming part of the Alternative or even religious territory lately. I mean, surely we can agree that attacking other users, insulting them, or trolling isn't exactly "constructive"? So it's pretty weird that after dealing with endless troll posts, insults, and people ganging up on me, you're trying to paint me as some sensitive old lady. Whatever. Think what you want, but to me, that kind of behavior is just pathetic. I'm genuinely curious, though... how many more posts about me am I gonna have to deal with? 😁

silentcobra80 said:Well, I popped in here just to read this thread. The title caught my eye, and I was genuinely curious about what drives the OP to feel this way. But the author is staying silent while things descend into absolute chaos here. So, if you'll permit me, I’ll offer my take on this whole brawl as someone completely neutral who doesn't actually know any of you—well, except for Joseph Bailey41, whom I've had some lovely chats with during those rare moments I post here or over on Alternative.

neonmarlin39, I think your take on the universe missed the mark. I'm alone in this, but I believe others understood exactly what Peanut meant. I suspect you understood it too, but your ego is getting in the way... so you keep pushing, turning everyone against you until, without even intending to be insulting, you end up sounding like an old busybody. I don't mean to offend you; honestly, I used to be exactly like that, especially in sports debates or on other forums. I used to pull that "I've settled all you guys" routine, too. But eventually, I mellowed out. Now I avoid those fights, and more importantly, I can admit when I've messed up or misread a situation, which happens. Maybe you're just young, or maybe you're just high-strung like I was—unable to let things go and digging your heels in even when you're wrong. It's all ego. Don't sweat it, though; it's easy to move past if you want to. You aren't stupid or anything; you're just a bit exhausting, much like I once was.

Since you all brought up Communist atrocities, I should comment on that too. Of course, we should be grateful they liberated us from Fascist terror, but that absolutely does not mean their own crimes should be ignored or swept under the rug. As someone with history in my blood—someone who has worked with top-tier historians, treats history as a hobby, and spent a chapter of my life researching both general history and the specific history of my hometown—I can tell you they committed horrific crimes, including looting the people and plenty of other evils. One power was simply swapped for another. They created a system where, over time, people might have lived more securely than they do today, but that's true of any regime. Still, the crimes were real and shouldn't be dismissed just because they ended the terror. Thinking otherwise is fundamentally flawed.

As for the actual topic, you've all said it. The OP needs to realize there is so much beauty in life; there's really no point in ending it all when death is coming for us regardless.

So, that's basically the least said about the subject, unfortunately. It's proof of how quickly a thread goes off the rails when people overdo it.

Look, I’m just saying—I don't see any damn reason to defend crimes committed by any of those regimes or systems, and I'm not just talking about the communist ones. Joseph Bailey41 started coming at me with direct insults, and honestly, she's been trolling me ever since I brought up communism in another thread. That's her issue, not mine. It seems like this peanut is also getting pretty emotional about communist atrocities, acting like I need to leave them alone (as if I haven't already, except they were just mentioned as an example like 😁)
Joseph Bailey41 Joseph Bailey41 Veteran
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#96 ·
Alright, let's cut the twisting of words. You didn't just "mention communism"—you suddenly decided to quote some quasi-historian out of nowhere who counts everyone who died during the Stalinist era as a victim, whether it was from a heart attack, a clumsy accident, the flu, or just some bad whiskey. Basically, they count everyone. If you really want to debate this, go start a thread over in the History subforum (or find one that's already running) and see how people react there. Just stop trolling the Spirituality section by copy-pasting random scraps from Wikipedia. As for the "bad humor" thing... look, we all slip up sometimes. Maybe you didn't mean to indirectly insult Peanut... but if you did, you fix it with a simple apology instead of digging your heels in and insisting you're right.

If this subforum were actually moderated, I’m certain these kinds of "misunderstandings" wouldn't happen (or at least your posts would be handled appropriately). But it isn't. So, when someone starts breaking the rules, the only corrective measure left is for the community to gang up on them. Whether you like it or not.
neonmarlin39 neonmarlin39 Active Member
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joined May 2019
#97 ·
Joseph Bailey41 said:Alright, let's cut the twisting of words. You didn't just "mention communism"—you suddenly decided to quote some quasi-historian out of nowhere who counts everyone who died during the Stalinist era as a victim, whether it was from a heart attack, a clumsy accident, the flu, or just some bad whiskey. Basically, they count everyone. If you really want to debate this, go start a thread over in the History subforum (or find one that's already running) and see how people react there. Just stop trolling the Spirituality section by copy-pasting random scraps from Wikipedia. As for the "bad humor" thing... look, we all slip up sometimes. Maybe you didn't mean to indirectly insult Peanut... but if you did, you fix it with a simple apology instead of digging your heels in and insisting you're right.

If this subforum were actually moderated, I’m certain these kinds of "misunderstandings" wouldn't happen (or at least your posts would be handled appropriately). But it isn't. So, when someone starts breaking the rules, the only corrective measure left is for the community to gang up on them. Whether you like it or not.

Nah, I didn't. I literally just dropped a link with all the deep dives from various historians and academics—total objectivity there—so if you’d actually looked, you would’ve seen it. You want me to post the link again so we can figure out who's actually twisting things? Hypocrite. Also, I’m still waiting on an answer for how many posts you've actually made about me in this thread.

Joseph Bailey41 said:Alright, let's cut the twisting of words. You didn't just "mention communism"—you suddenly decided to quote some quasi-historian out of nowhere who counts everyone who died during the Stalinist era as a victim, whether it was from a heart attack, a clumsy accident, the flu, or just some bad whiskey. Basically, they count everyone. If you really want to debate this, go start a thread over in the History subforum (or find one that's already running) and see how people react there. Just stop trolling the Spirituality section by copy-pasting random scraps from Wikipedia. As for the "bad humor" thing... look, we all slip up sometimes. Maybe you didn't mean to indirectly insult Peanut... but if you did, you fix it with a simple apology instead of digging your heels in and insisting you're right.

If this subforum were actually moderated, I’m certain these kinds of "misunderstandings" wouldn't happen (or at least your posts would be handled appropriately). But it isn't. So, when someone starts breaking the rules, the only corrective measure left is for the community to gang up on them. Whether you like it or not.

Honestly, if this place actually had decent moderation, you would’ve been banned ages ago. 😁 Either someone needs to actually drop some direct links to all those insults and those arguments you had over in the appeals and comments section so the mods can finally take notice... Seriously, man, quit playing games and making stuff up.
Joseph Bailey41 Joseph Bailey41 Veteran
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joined Apr 2021
#98 ·
neonmarlin39 said:Nah, I didn't. I literally just dropped a link with all the deep dives from various historians and academics—total objectivity there—so if you’d actually looked, you would’ve seen it. You want me to post the link again so we can figure out who's actually twisting things? Hypocrite. Also, I’m still waiting on an answer for how many posts you've actually made about me in this thread.

Honestly, if this place actually had decent moderation, you would’ve been banned ages ago. 😁 Either someone needs to actually drop some direct links to all those insults and those arguments you had over in the appeals and comments section so the mods can finally take notice... Seriously, man, quit playing games and making stuff up.

Feel free to drop any links containing analyses over in the History section, but if you want to post links regarding my supposed insults, take those to the Off-Topic board. Now, beat it.
silvercanyon65 silvercanyon65 Member
19 messages
joined May 2014
#99 ·
Sean Mitchell said:Is it worth it? Or is it just a waste of time?

I can't help but wonder what's actually hiding "behind the curtain."

Give it a shot and let me know how it goes. 😵
neonmarlin39 neonmarlin39 Active Member
139 messages
joined May 2019
#100 ·
Joseph Bailey41 said:Feel free to drop any links containing analyses over in the History section, but if you want to post links regarding my supposed insults, take those to the Off-Topic board. Now, beat it.

Coming from some lady who’s already dropped like 50 posts about me and started riding my case 😁

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