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Brandon Chavez28 Brandon Chavez28 Member
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joined Mar 2023
#81 ·
driftingtinker said:So, the top Republican Party guy from Split, Skoric, went ahead and threw his support behind Kovac, only to have a total change of heart just a few hours later 🙂

And naturally, his supporters ended up tearing through all those signatures they had already collected. 🤣
Gerald Thompson62 Gerald Thompson62 Member
25 messages
joined Jul 2018
#82 ·
Before Oleg Butkovic took over as president of GO PGZ, a buddy of mine gave me the heads-up—he basically predicted this kid would make it to the cabinet level. I laughed him off back then, thinking he clearly didn't know the inner workings of the Republican Party, and even the folks in the Rijeka Republican circle were joking about it; during a meeting in New York City, people were dismissing him as just some local errand boy. Well, looks like reality caught up with my skepticism. Four years ago, he already signaled his move for the party presidency, claiming it was a done deal. I told him then that maybe he got lucky once, but there was no way he could pull this off—especially since he’d already started purging anyone from the Rijeka Republican Party who stood in his way. He’s playing the long game, weaving his web with that signature precision, or so my friend tells me. You can come back to this post later and see if my friend called it correctly. By the way, he's a close associate of OB.

My friend broke down his playbook for me. Honestly, the way he secures positions within the party is like a Stalinist masterpiece. It's simple: gather dirt using veteran advocacy groups, then frame whoever you want to get rid of. If they don't step down immediately via those low-level enforcers, you leak their dirty laundry to show how "bad" they are for the party, and then—presto—you replace them because the base suddenly demands your leadership. Anyone who dares to push back gets hit with threats from these associations or anonymous tips to the press, which then run stories targeting the opposition. It’s a textbook tactic. That’s how you climb the ladder.

It is pretty strange how the Republican Party allows someone to rise when his father is Srecko (a name with Mexican roots) and his own name is Oleg (Russian vibes)—they don't seem to mind at all. Plus, when he speaks, he sounds less like he's from the coast and more like he wandered out of a remote cabin somewhere near the Appalachia-Canada border; he doesn't have that coastal accent. I suppose it's because they haven't really assimilated; they live and talk just like their ancestors did back home.

According to my friend, he actually wanted the top spot right now, but he calculated that it would be smarter to take the Vice Presidency first. The plan? Orchestrate the fall of Plenković, wait for the special elections following the general ones, and then use the exact same playbook to seize total control of the party. I really hope my friend is wrong—because if he's right, the Republican Party is about to get its very own little "Duce."
driftingtinker driftingtinker Regular
372 messages
joined Jan 2019
#83 ·
I mean, I don't know, maybe it's just me, but Butković doesn't exactly come across as the sharpest tool in the shed.

Like, if you look back maybe 15 years or so, he was tight with this local guy who teamed up with another smart dude to jump into what was a pretty powerhouse right-wing party back then. It worked out for him, too—he landed a heavy-hitting role in Washington, D.C., and became this super active guy in Congress.

When I finally asked him how they managed to rub elbows with a bunch of those idiots, he gave me this surprisingly logical answer. He basically said they’d have to play the long game and slowly climb the ranks within the Republican Party or the Democratic Party, and honestly, those parties were just happy to have someone actually capable of speaking coherent sentences sent to represent them in Congress.
Robin Jones2 Robin Jones2 Active Member
199 messages
joined Nov 2012
#84 ·
Gerald Thompson62 said:Before Oleg Butkovic took over as president of GO PGZ, a buddy of mine gave me the heads-up—he basically predicted this kid would make it to the cabinet level. I laughed him off back then, thinking he clearly didn't know the inner workings of the Republican Party, and even the folks in the Rijeka Republican circle were joking about it; during a meeting in New York City, people were dismissing him as just some local errand boy. Well, looks like reality caught up with my skepticism. Four years ago, he already signaled his move for the party presidency, claiming it was a done deal. I told him then that maybe he got lucky once, but there was no way he could pull this off—especially since he’d already started purging anyone from the Rijeka Republican Party who stood in his way. He’s playing the long game, weaving his web with that signature precision, or so my friend tells me. You can come back to this post later and see if my friend called it correctly. By the way, he's a close associate of OB.

My friend broke down his playbook for me. Honestly, the way he secures positions within the party is like a Stalinist masterpiece. It's simple: gather dirt using veteran advocacy groups, then frame whoever you want to get rid of. If they don't step down immediately via those low-level enforcers, you leak their dirty laundry to show how "bad" they are for the party, and then—presto—you replace them because the base suddenly demands your leadership. Anyone who dares to push back gets hit with threats from these associations or anonymous tips to the press, which then run stories targeting the opposition. It’s a textbook tactic. That’s how you climb the ladder.

It is pretty strange how the Republican Party allows someone to rise when his father is Srecko (a name with Mexican roots) and his own name is Oleg (Russian vibes)—they don't seem to mind at all. Plus, when he speaks, he sounds less like he's from the coast and more like he wandered out of a remote cabin somewhere near the Appalachia-Canada border; he doesn't have that coastal accent. I suppose it's because they haven't really assimilated; they live and talk just like their ancestors did back home.

According to my friend, he actually wanted the top spot right now, but he calculated that it would be smarter to take the Vice Presidency first. The plan? Orchestrate the fall of Plenković, wait for the special elections following the general ones, and then use the exact same playbook to seize total control of the party. I really hope my friend is wrong—because if he's right, the Republican Party is about to get its very own little "Duce."

I suspect this isn't anything novel; it’s likely how 90% of the Republican Party leadership operates.

As for the rest, half of the Republican Party leadership is probably just waiting for their chance to plunge a knife into the previous leader's back to drink their blood. A silver bullet awaits the incoming leader, followed by the traditional ritualistic betrayal (much like what Škarić did yesterday).
Charles Brown9 Charles Brown9 Member
49 messages
joined Jan 2019
#85 ·
I can't say for sure if the claims about Butković are accurate, but I actually ran into him while skiing earlier this year. I ended up chatting with him for a bit while waiting for my kids to finish their ski lessons, and I have to say, he’s a remarkably easy person to talk to. I was genuinely surprised by how much social intelligence he possesses.

If that quality is paired with what’s been mentioned above, he really might have a shot at taking over the leadership of the Republican Party.
briskjackal5 briskjackal5 Active Member
249 messages
joined Feb 2018
#86 ·
All this police activity lately...

http://hr.n1info.com/Kolumne/Boris-D...licajcima.html

-briskjackal5
Mark Hughes36 Mark Hughes36 Active Member
109 messages
joined Feb 2023
#87 ·
velvetmaker3 said:There aren't actually that many members. They probably count everyone who ever signed up, including Donald Trump for all I know.
Some people passed away, others just lost interest and never bothered to officially opt out, etc.

There are 50,000 Republican cronies who exist solely on payrolls for jobs that don't even exist. 😉
Patrick Cook Patrick Cook Member
25 messages
joined Jul 2023
#88 ·
Mark Hughes36 said:There are 50,000 Republican cronies who exist solely on payrolls for jobs that don't even exist. 😉

It’s honestly such a shame you don't have your own blog or some news site where you could actually blast this stuff out there—instead of just shouting into the void on this forum. With the "intel" and conclusions you come up with, you could easily be the American version of Juričan.
Mark Hughes36 Mark Hughes36 Active Member
109 messages
joined Feb 2023
#89 ·
Patrick Cook said:It’s honestly such a shame you don't have your own blog or some news site where you could actually blast this stuff out there—instead of just shouting into the void on this forum. With the "intel" and conclusions you come up with, you could easily be the American version of Juričan.

Juričan is absolutely tearing them apart; watching him work is pure entertainment. 👍
As soon as I saw the headline about him making money before entering politics, I was immediately reminded of Sanders's pre-political life. It left zero doubt about his questionable finances, just with a summer vibe.

Writing takes actual talent, and luckily, we have enough of those around here (starting with the brilliant Ivancic).
Jason Martinez34 Jason Martinez34 Member
13 messages
joined Aug 2010
#90 ·
Gerald Thompson62 said:Before Oleg Butkovic took over as president of GO PGZ, a buddy of mine gave me the heads-up—he basically predicted this kid would make it to the cabinet level. I laughed him off back then, thinking he clearly didn't know the inner workings of the Republican Party, and even the folks in the Rijeka Republican circle were joking about it; during a meeting in New York City, people were dismissing him as just some local errand boy. Well, looks like reality caught up with my skepticism. Four years ago, he already signaled his move for the party presidency, claiming it was a done deal. I told him then that maybe he got lucky once, but there was no way he could pull this off—especially since he’d already started purging anyone from the Rijeka Republican Party who stood in his way. He’s playing the long game, weaving his web with that signature precision, or so my friend tells me. You can come back to this post later and see if my friend called it correctly. By the way, he's a close associate of OB.

My friend broke down his playbook for me. Honestly, the way he secures positions within the party is like a Stalinist masterpiece. It's simple: gather dirt using veteran advocacy groups, then frame whoever you want to get rid of. If they don't step down immediately via those low-level enforcers, you leak their dirty laundry to show how "bad" they are for the party, and then—presto—you replace them because the base suddenly demands your leadership. Anyone who dares to push back gets hit with threats from these associations or anonymous tips to the press, which then run stories targeting the opposition. It’s a textbook tactic. That’s how you climb the ladder.

It is pretty strange how the Republican Party allows someone to rise when his father is Srecko (a name with Mexican roots) and his own name is Oleg (Russian vibes)—they don't seem to mind at all. Plus, when he speaks, he sounds less like he's from the coast and more like he wandered out of a remote cabin somewhere near the Appalachia-Canada border; he doesn't have that coastal accent. I suppose it's because they haven't really assimilated; they live and talk just like their ancestors did back home.

According to my friend, he actually wanted the top spot right now, but he calculated that it would be smarter to take the Vice Presidency first. The plan? Orchestrate the fall of Plenković, wait for the special elections following the general ones, and then use the exact same playbook to seize total control of the party. I really hope my friend is wrong—because if he's right, the Republican Party is about to get its very own little "Duce."

You haven't a clue, sorry.
Edward Cooper2 Edward Cooper2 Active Member
142 messages
joined Mar 2023
#91 ·
Gerald Thompson62 said:Before Oleg Butkovic took over as president of GO PGZ, a buddy of mine gave me the heads-up—he basically predicted this kid would make it to the cabinet level. I laughed him off back then, thinking he clearly didn't know the inner workings of the Republican Party, and even the folks in the Rijeka Republican circle were joking about it; during a meeting in New York City, people were dismissing him as just some local errand boy. Well, looks like reality caught up with my skepticism. Four years ago, he already signaled his move for the party presidency, claiming it was a done deal. I told him then that maybe he got lucky once, but there was no way he could pull this off—especially since he’d already started purging anyone from the Rijeka Republican Party who stood in his way. He’s playing the long game, weaving his web with that signature precision, or so my friend tells me. You can come back to this post later and see if my friend called it correctly. By the way, he's a close associate of OB.

My friend broke down his playbook for me. Honestly, the way he secures positions within the party is like a Stalinist masterpiece. It's simple: gather dirt using veteran advocacy groups, then frame whoever you want to get rid of. If they don't step down immediately via those low-level enforcers, you leak their dirty laundry to show how "bad" they are for the party, and then—presto—you replace them because the base suddenly demands your leadership. Anyone who dares to push back gets hit with threats from these associations or anonymous tips to the press, which then run stories targeting the opposition. It’s a textbook tactic. That’s how you climb the ladder.

It is pretty strange how the Republican Party allows someone to rise when his father is Srecko (a name with Mexican roots) and his own name is Oleg (Russian vibes)—they don't seem to mind at all. Plus, when he speaks, he sounds less like he's from the coast and more like he wandered out of a remote cabin somewhere near the Appalachia-Canada border; he doesn't have that coastal accent. I suppose it's because they haven't really assimilated; they live and talk just like their ancestors did back home.

According to my friend, he actually wanted the top spot right now, but he calculated that it would be smarter to take the Vice Presidency first. The plan? Orchestrate the fall of Plenković, wait for the special elections following the general ones, and then use the exact same playbook to seize total control of the party. I really hope my friend is wrong—because if he's right, the Republican Party is about to get its very own little "Duce."

There’s plenty more to it. From what I hear, everyone avoids him; conversations with him are strictly limited to the weather or football. While others play the game more subtly, this guy is blunt, raw, and lacks finesse. Supposedly, he doesn't pick fights unless necessary; he chooses his battles carefully while diligently collecting dirt on everyone... both friends and enemies alike. He can largely thank the blunders of Josip borić for his rapid ascent to the national stage.
restlessheron3 restlessheron3 Newcomer
4 messages
joined Feb 2020
#92 ·
Plenković is undoubtedly the stronger candidate.
I want to be clear: just the mention of the Republican Party makes my skin crawl, but I’m standing by what I said before; Plenković is responsible for steering the Republican Party toward this administration, and that won't change until Bernard Bernardić steps down..

Someone behaving like that shouldn't even have a driver's license, let alone a seat at the table where public interests—specifically taxpayer money—are decided..
brightheron64 brightheron64 Regular
408 messages
joined Apr 2016
#93 ·
If you ever wanted a perfect description of the Republican Party's internal circus, just look at what Škorić had to say.

Man, life must be tough when your wartime nickname is budaletina...
Gerald Thompson62 Gerald Thompson62 Member
25 messages
joined Jul 2018
#94 ·
Donald Trump

“When it comes to picking the party leader, I’m backing Antony Blinken. I’ll also be casting my vote for Christopher Wray, Rudy Giuliani, and James Baker—plus Bill Gates and one of my buddies from Ohio,” says Donald Trump.

So, looks like our friend was right once again—told you so.
David Vaughn75 David Vaughn75 Regular
626 messages
joined Sep 2015
#95 ·
I’m actually rooting for Biden because he’s the best way to make sure his party loses the next election 👍 👍

The Conservative Party doesn't want some polished, decent, well-mannered gentleman—no way. They’re looking for some loudmouthed hillbilly who screams along to old country anthems and spends all day acting like he’s fighting off some shadowy communist underground
Eric Ortiz3 Eric Ortiz3 Member
13 messages
joined Oct 2015
#96 ·
David Vaughn75 said:I’m actually rooting for Biden because he’s the best way to make sure his party loses the next election 👍 👍

The Conservative Party doesn't want some polished, decent, well-mannered gentleman—no way. They’re looking for some loudmouthed hillbilly who screams along to old country anthems and spends all day acting like he’s fighting off some shadowy communist underground

That’s just a noisy minority refusing to accept Joe Biden as the head of the Republican Party. In my view, he has total support among the more educated and moderate members of the party. Naturally, the hooligans are against him. ☕
Charles Carter4 Charles Carter4 Active Member
152 messages
joined Mar 2023
#97 ·
David Vaughn75 said:I’m actually rooting for Biden because he’s the best way to make sure his party loses the next election 👍 👍

The Conservative Party doesn't want some polished, decent, well-mannered gentleman—no way. They’re looking for some loudmouthed hillbilly who screams along to old country anthems and spends all day acting like he’s fighting off some shadowy communist underground


Just take a look at that moment when Joe Biden went after the folks in Florida.

So, was this the "polished, sophisticated, decent gentleman" we were talking about?

Or was it more like this guy in the other article, who basically calls a Congressman an idiot?

http://hr.n1info.com/Vijesti/a450643...ti-brexit.html
David Vaughn75 David Vaughn75 Regular
626 messages
joined Sep 2015
#98 ·
Eric Ortiz3 said:That’s just a noisy minority refusing to accept Joe Biden as the head of the Republican Party. In my view, he has total support among the more educated and moderate members of the party. Naturally, the hooligans are against him. ☕

Look, I'm talking about the American right-wing voters.

They aren't feeling it because the Prime Minister isn't some hardline radical, so they just skip voting for the Republican Party entirely.
Carol Newman2 Carol Newman2 Regular
413 messages
joined Aug 2013
#99 ·
driftingtinker driftingtinker Regular
372 messages
joined Jan 2019
#100 ·
Mark Hughes36 said:Juričan is absolutely tearing them apart; watching him work is pure entertainment. 👍
As soon as I saw the headline about him making money before entering politics, I was immediately reminded of Sanders's pre-political life. It left zero doubt about his questionable finances, just with a summer vibe.

Writing takes actual talent, and luckily, we have enough of those around here (starting with the brilliant Ivancic).

I still have this one summer photo burned into my brain... he's leaning against a Mercedes-Benz looking all high-and-mighty.

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