The Power of Humility

Maria Parker77 said:There are two of them, and one actually comes with a bathroom

Who on earth is bringing him water out there? 🤔

Maria Parker77 said:Melissa Rogers4, what part of this are you not getting?
I know a guy who rents out caves in the Himalayas for samadhi sessions. I can get you his info—he'll probably give you a discount. Once you actually experience samadhi firsthand, maybe then the whole concept of humility will finally click for you.

I just don't understand why you can't move past the fact that we aren't all going to blindly swallow your spiritual sales pitch and act impressed by someone trying to sell us thin air. You'd think you'd be used to the idea that we don't all smoke the same kind of weed 🤔
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Regarding humility, I'm genuinely curious how being "more tolerant than a tree" or "lower than the grass by the road" actually works in practice. It’s one thing to write about having an experience, but experiencing something isn't the same as actually being it... and that line from the book seems to be talking about a state of consciousness, not just a fleeting (and likely projected) feeling...

I know a guy who rents out caves in the Himalayas for Samadhi. I can put you in touch—he might give you a discount. Once you actually hit Samadhi, your sense of humility will make much more sense.

So, you need to rent a cave to experience Samadhi? Are you for real? And not even on your own terms, either—you actually have to pay a landlord for it!? Where on earth do you people come from... seriously...🤣

Melissa Rogers4 said:What have you all gone through? I wanted to start a thread about humility. Honestly, hearing about someone else's real-life experiences feels so much more meaningful than reading history books about eras we could never truly understand ourselves...

So you ask me a question and then immediately turn around and claim the question was out of line... classic. 😵

From what I can tell, whenever I’ve actually managed to be humble, that's when grace finally finds me.

Joseph Bailey41 said:Does that still count if you're drunk as a sailor and high as a kite? 🤔

Counted toward what, exactly?

David Vaughn75 said:So you ask me a question and then immediately turn around and claim the question was out of line... classic. 😵

From what I can tell, whenever I’ve actually managed to be humble, that's when grace finally finds me.

Counted toward what, exactly?

Could you point me to where I said that question was misplaced? I don't think you quite caught my drift...

Quentin Tarantino:

I’ve found that whenever I actually stay humble, grace seems to find me...

Wow, that response was incredible. Were you actually being humble? Really? And how about now... I just don't get how someone can go from being so humble to being anything else...

It’s kind of like someone claiming they were once brilliant, isn't it? Sure, neurons might wither if you don't use them, but shouldn't humility actually grow over time? As you get a better grasp on life and open up spiritually, the ego tends to fade away... wouldn't you say...

So, does eating meat automatically mean you've lost your humility or aren't following certain spiritual principles, or is it just some specific rules you're following? I'm curious... How did you experience grace, what did that actually feel like, and why did you lose it? It feels like you weren't taught in school how to give a straight answer, so instead, you're kind of mystifying the terms to dodge the details...

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Being humble doesn't mean you lack drive or ambition...

Humility... It’s almost as if the soul is simply too lazy to grasp the conversation we're having here.

You see, humility is really just self-awareness, which, when you think about it, is two sides of the exact same coin.

It isn't an emotion at all.

Emotions belong to the physical body.

Yes, precisely that, and I've been dwelling on this quite a bit over the last week.

One should listen to that lazy soul with true humility.

Humility is being able to admit, for instance, that you have a material desire.

Like wanting a new Apple phone.

That realization right there? That is humility.

It is pure self-awareness and awareness of one's own state.

Stripped of all the extra fluff.

The mindset of "I want it all and I want it now" is definitely not what we call humility.

No, that's just saying, "I want A, B, C, and D, and I need them this very second."

That is merely logic.

Or intuition.

I don't get it. I humbly admit my lack of understanding and refuse to force the concept into my brain.

Humility is woven into everything around us, and I honestly can't wrap my head around why people insist on attaching all these heavy religious meanings to it.

Just look at that guy on the TV right now, claiming "Apple leads you straight to Russia." There's something interesting in that thought.

David Vaughn75 said:So you ask me a question and then immediately turn around and claim the question was out of line... classic. 😵

From what I can tell, whenever I’ve actually managed to be humble, that's when grace finally finds me.

Counted toward what, exactly?

Well, I suppose you could call it reaching a Himalayan state of mind. 😁

Matthew Cruz44 said:Humility... It’s almost as if the soul is simply too lazy to grasp the conversation we're having here.

You see, humility is really just self-awareness, which, when you think about it, is two sides of the exact same coin.

It isn't an emotion at all.

Emotions belong to the physical body.

Yes, precisely that, and I've been dwelling on this quite a bit over the last week.

One should listen to that lazy soul with true humility.

Humility is being able to admit, for instance, that you have a material desire.

Like wanting a new Apple phone.

That realization right there? That is humility.

It is pure self-awareness and awareness of one's own state.

Stripped of all the extra fluff.

The mindset of "I want it all and I want it now" is definitely not what we call humility.

No, that's just saying, "I want A, B, C, and D, and I need them this very second."

That is merely logic.

Or intuition.

I don't get it. I humbly admit my lack of understanding and refuse to force the concept into my brain.

Humility is woven into everything around us, and I honestly can't wrap my head around why people insist on attaching all these heavy religious meanings to it.

Just look at that guy on the TV right now, claiming "Apple leads you straight to Russia." There's something interesting in that thought.

Here’s a cold virtual beer to help clear your head 🙂

The world feels young once again 🙂

Melissa Rogers4 said:Could you point me to where I said that question was misplaced? I don't think you quite caught my drift...

Quentin Tarantino:

I’ve found that whenever I actually stay humble, grace seems to find me...

Wow, that response was incredible. Were you actually being humble? Really? And how about now... I just don't get how someone can go from being so humble to being anything else...

It’s kind of like someone claiming they were once brilliant, isn't it? Sure, neurons might wither if you don't use them, but shouldn't humility actually grow over time? As you get a better grasp on life and open up spiritually, the ego tends to fade away... wouldn't you say...

So, does eating meat automatically mean you've lost your humility or aren't following certain spiritual principles, or is it just some specific rules you're following? I'm curious... How did you experience grace, what did that actually feel like, and why did you lose it? It feels like you weren't taught in school how to give a straight answer, so instead, you're kind of mystifying the terms to dodge the details...

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What's your actual angle here? I was humble, period. 😠

If I ask you what day it is, the answer is Thursday—not a five-page dissertation on your personal philosophy regarding the concept of a Thursday.

Joseph Bailey41 said:Well, I suppose you could call it reaching a Himalayan state of mind. 😁

I guess being sober is a Himalayan state of mind compared to being high. 😁

David Vaughn75 said:What's your actual angle here? I was humble, period. 😠

If I ask you what day it is, the answer is Thursday—not a five-page dissertation on your personal philosophy regarding the concept of a Thursday.

I guess being sober is a Himalayan state of mind compared to being high. 😁

It’s funny how all you "humble" people seem to be constantly pissed off and so quick to lose it... 😁

Melissa Rogers4 said:I just don't understand why you can't move past the fact that we aren't all going to blindly swallow your spiritual sales pitch and act impressed by someone trying to sell us thin air. You'd think you'd be used to the idea that we don't all smoke the same kind of weed 🤔
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Regarding humility, I'm genuinely curious how being "more tolerant than a tree" or "lower than the grass by the road" actually works in practice. It’s one thing to write about having an experience, but experiencing something isn't the same as actually being it... and that line from the book seems to be talking about a state of consciousness, not just a fleeting (and likely projected) feeling...

I know a guy who rents out caves in the Himalayas for Samadhi. I can put you in touch—he might give you a discount. Once you actually hit Samadhi, your sense of humility will make much more sense.

So, you need to rent a cave to experience Samadhi? Are you for real? And not even on your own terms, either—you actually have to pay a landlord for it!? Where on earth do you people come from... seriously...🤣

So apparently I'm running a spiritual scam now, and you're even bringing my mother into it ☕

Melissa Rogers4, could you please clarify what you mean by that?

And just to be crystal clear, I was totally joking about the cave and the renting part.

Melissa Rogers4 said:It’s funny how all you "humble" people seem to be constantly pissed off and so quick to lose it... 😁

I don't see what's so interesting about that. If I have to suck it up and play nice for five or ten minutes just to get through a meeting or some work bullshit, I’m going to be frustrated for the next seven days. 🤣

That isn't just how life works. People aren't mindless drones, and we certainly aren't livestock. 👎

Sandra Morgan2 said:Humility—defined as being modest, unobtrusive, and seeing oneself as insignificant compared to others and God—has to come from a deep realization of how reality actually works. Otherwise, it’s just acting. It’s just a programmed behavior.

To me, that insight is captured perfectly by the Sanskrit term *nirmama*. In a loose translation, it means: nothing is mine, I own nothing, nothing belongs to me.

Only someone who truly understands that everything they have—their parents, spouse, children, all their property, everything they’ve built, everything they know, those diplomas hanging on the wall, everything they’ve acquired, including their very body and identity—is a gift, is not truly theirs, is temporary, and will eventually be taken away... only then can they be truly humble.

That realization makes a person non-confrontational and peaceful. They don't feel the need to be at odds with the world, other people, their loved ones, or God. Such a person won't be arrogant, boastful, puffed up, or full of themselves (all traits that are the polar opposite of humility).

But they won't be a pushover who just bends to everyone else either... because beyond seeing that they own nothing, they see that no one else owns anything either.

Elizabeth Castillo87 said:Since this is hands-down the best description of humility I've ever seen, I just had to share it again.

mistybison said:I agree. 🙂 This is a lovely post. 👍

Hmm... does that mean you actually desire for the people in your own circle to be humble toward you? Or would you perhaps find that you don't wish for them to experience the same thing you do?

I am not entirely certain, but if you ask me, one should always strive for a sense of equilibrium...

One ought to bring the overinflated and the arrogant back down to earth—to humble them, if you will—while elevating those who have been unfairly overlooked... and perhaps then, we might make this world a slightly more balanced place...

feralranger said:Hmm... does that mean you actually desire for the people in your own circle to be humble toward you? Or would you perhaps find that you don't wish for them to experience the same thing you do?

I am not entirely certain, but if you ask me, one should always strive for a sense of equilibrium...

One ought to bring the overinflated and the arrogant back down to earth—to humble them, if you will—while elevating those who have been unfairly overlooked... and perhaps then, we might make this world a slightly more balanced place...

The discussion here focuses on spiritual, rather than secular humility.

mistybison said:The discussion here focuses on spiritual, rather than secular humility.

I find myself somewhat perplexed by this notion of 'spiritual' humility—could you perhaps elaborate on what that actually entails? For instance, would you truly desire for your own friends to exhibit this peculiar brand of 'spiritual' humility toward you? I would be most grateful if you could clarify how such a dynamic would even manifest in practice.

feralranger said:I find myself somewhat perplexed by this notion of 'spiritual' humility—could you perhaps elaborate on what that actually entails? For instance, would you truly desire for your own friends to exhibit this peculiar brand of 'spiritual' humility toward you? I would be most grateful if you could clarify how such a dynamic would even manifest in practice.

I have already provided an explanation here. 🙂

Spirituality is a deeply personal journey that one walks alone. It is essentially an intimate relationship between an individual and themselves (and/or God—something greater than oneself). While it is always lovely to meet fellow spiritual travelers 🙂, our individual paths can vary significantly. Personally, I don't mind at all whether others share an interest in spirituality or not. 🙂

mistybison said:I have already provided an explanation here. 🙂

Spirituality is a deeply personal journey that one walks alone. It is essentially an intimate relationship between an individual and themselves (and/or God—something greater than oneself). While it is always lovely to meet fellow spiritual travelers 🙂, our individual paths can vary significantly. Personally, I don't mind at all whether others share an interest in spirituality or not. 🙂

I actually came across your previous post, but that wasn't really what I was getting at...

You claimed that humility is one thing, and you seemed perfectly content to agree with that notion...

Humility, which by its very definition involves a modest, unobtrusive, almost self-effacing demeanor where one perceives themselves as insignificant compared to others...

Now, if you truly view humility as a virtue, then I suppose—if my logic holds—you would also desire that same quality in your friends, which would inherently imply they should be humble toward you. And why on earth would you want that?

I am merely attempting to interrogate this particular stance of yours, which remains, quite frankly, rather baffling to me.

feralranger said:I actually came across your previous post, but that wasn't really what I was getting at...

You claimed that humility is one thing, and you seemed perfectly content to agree with that notion...

Humility, which by its very definition involves a modest, unobtrusive, almost self-effacing demeanor where one perceives themselves as insignificant compared to others...

Now, if you truly view humility as a virtue, then I suppose—if my logic holds—you would also desire that same quality in your friends, which would inherently imply they should be humble toward you. And why on earth would you want that?

I am merely attempting to interrogate this particular stance of yours, which remains, quite frankly, rather baffling to me.

To be honest, I didn't even notice she used the word "others" in that sentence. I believe my previous posts clearly express my actual stance. 🙂

I suppose I should have only quoted the second part of her post, specifically the part I agree with. I will be more careful next time. 🙂

Look, humility isn't about being a doormat or letting people walk all over you. It’s actually the exact opposite. It’s just your way of admitting, "Hey, I don't have all the answers," and then actually keeping an open mind so you can learn the stuff you didn't know before.