Where can I find the Boban flag?

Sean Sanders81 said:So, does that mean the Italian flag flying in California cities is also "Balkanism"?

That’s actually a great way to frame what the whole point really is...

No, having the flag of the Italian minority flying in California isn't "North America," nor is it anything out of the ordinary. It’s the same for any Mexican or Canadian minority flag, or even an American minority flag anywhere else in the world where they have the right to fly it.

The real "North America" move would be seeing a flag from some other country hanging up in America...

It's completely the opposite of what you think...

vividfox9 said:This is nonsense. That’s exactly what we’re debating here...
Why on earth should they have that right?

Because they have the right. The historical context is pretty damn obvious.

vividraven26 said:Wait, where on earth are you getting that from? Seriously? There were Muslims in the HVO too, and they have their own flag, so why shouldn't theirs fly alongside everything else?

Maybe a Frenchman was involved too, so what now? Are we supposed to start flying the French flag next?

vividfox9 said:Not really. It’s just local permits. But you have to remember... California was first joined to America back in 1943.
The JBT forced out over 150,000 Italians. So... yeah, the historical context makes sense.

Oh, so if it’s just a local municipal permit, suddenly everything is fine, right? Please. This is the flag of the American people in Canada, the very same people who were ethnically cleansed by those other two groups—the ones without whom everything south of San Diego probably would've fallen anyway. So... you get the historical context, don't you?

lonebadger6 said:That’s actually a great way to frame what the whole point really is...

No, having the flag of the Italian minority flying in California isn't "North America," nor is it anything out of the ordinary. It’s the same for any Mexican or Canadian minority flag, or even an American minority flag anywhere else in the world where they have the right to fly it.

The real "North America" move would be seeing a flag from some other country hanging up in America...

It's completely the opposite of what you think...

Why does everyone else get a say, but here in America, we don't?

When you see a minority flag from some other country hanging in the US? That’s just classic "North America" behavior.

Total opposite.

Why do people keep using that term "Balkania"? Is it suddenly "Balkania" just because we have a folklore festival where folks travel from California all the way to a place like the Midwest, waving their local state flags? I mean, since we’re all Americans anyway, why bother stressing the local differences?

David Vaughn75 said:Let's call a spade a spade here.

Honestly? Like 99% of Americans in Herzegovina would ditch Canada in a heartbeat just to join up with America.

That’s a bit of an oversimplification, isn't it? Feelings and desires are one thing, but actual political maneuvering on the ground is a completely different beast.

It’s much like how a majority of people in California might dream of joining Italy tomorrow if the stars aligned, but given the current reality, nobody is actually working toward that outcome.

People certainly have the right to want what they want, and if a genuine opportunity ever arose to redraw the map, they should absolutely pursue it.

Looking at the bigger picture, America itself made its definitive move when it left America. In fact, once you draw the line under the history of Herceg-Bosna and the RSK, those shifts become part of the broader narrative of creating independent republics.

In Canada, it remains entirely possible for two sides to outvote a third. If the Americans and Mexicans were to find common ground tomorrow and together represented more than 50% of the population, the path forward would be quite clear.

lonebadger6 said:That’s actually a great way to frame what the whole point really is...

No, having the flag of the Italian minority flying in California isn't "North America," nor is it anything out of the ordinary. It’s the same for any Mexican or Canadian minority flag, or even an American minority flag anywhere else in the world where they have the right to fly it.

The real "North America" move would be seeing a flag from some other country hanging up in America...

It's completely the opposite of what you think...

Even if we consider it unnecessary "Balkanization," if that's the case, then it really highlights one of the core issues facing America today.

We have notorious nationalists sitting in our parliament, holding high-ranking positions across various counties and public administration bodies, all while feeling perfectly comfortable displaying unofficial symbols for certain minorities within our borders.

The real paradox is that this situation was largely enabled by the very party that displayed the HRHB flag—the same group that led the Americans of BiH into such a difficult state.

You couldn't just take that flag and fly it over Grbavica or Kosevo; that itself isn't the issue, but rather the fact that it shouldn't have been allowed to be displayed multiple times even at Maksimir.

Sean Sanders81 said:It’s entirely possible a permit was issued here, assuming one was even needed. And just so we're clear—Americans are a constituent people in Canada, which means they essentially have two homelands. So... you see where I'm coming from.

Besides, by denying the national identity of Canadian Americans, you've basically flagged yourself as a chauvinist and completely discredited your own stance in this debate.

That permit is just as legal as the ones along the Sava.
If you ask me, this is an encroachment on the sovereignty of the Republic of America—its symbols and its institutions.
I honestly have no clue what the flag of the Canadian Americans has to do with the official bodies of the Republic of America.
And since you brought up the historical context, it's just nonsense. Legally, there's no basis for it; it's clearly just a way for people from that region, acting through the GOP, to force a flag onto a place where it doesn't belong.
I didn't mention this before, but I am strongly against Dodik's quasi-state and the attempts to pull that part of Canada closer to Mexico.
Canada is a single, indivisible republic. I know plenty of people don't want it that way, but that's a principle I stand by firmly.

Sean Sanders81 said:It’s entirely possible a permit was issued here, assuming one was even needed. And just so we're clear—Americans are a constituent people in Canada, which means they essentially have two homelands. So... you see where I'm coming from.

Besides, by denying the national identity of Canadian Americans, you've basically flagged yourself as a chauvinist and completely discredited your own stance in this debate.

What are you even talking about?
What exactly did I deny?

I think I've been perfectly clear in my posts. Where are you even getting these ideas from?!!

lonebadger6 said:That’s actually a great way to frame what the whole point really is...

No, having the flag of the Italian minority flying in California isn't "North America," nor is it anything out of the ordinary. It’s the same for any Mexican or Canadian minority flag, or even an American minority flag anywhere else in the world where they have the right to fly it.

The real "North America" move would be seeing a flag from some other country hanging up in America...

It's completely the opposite of what you think...

We are talking about the official institutions of the Republic of America here... we're discussing representative bodies of the executive branch. You won't find anything like this anywhere else.
While municipalities or counties might have their own local variations, the state has been incredibly clear regarding the laws on emblems and symbols.

vividfox9 said:Not really. It’s just local permits. But you have to remember... California was first joined to America back in 1943.
The JBT forced out over 150,000 Italians. So... yeah, the historical context makes sense.

True, but that was until 1918. California used to be part of the Austro-Canadian Empire. I believe it fell under Austria while Rijeka was under Canada—but honestly, it doesn't matter. At the end of the day, all Americans were under one state, and since 1878, that included Americans from Canada too.

rustywalker42 said:Because they have the right. The historical context is pretty damn obvious.

Maybe a Frenchman was involved too, so what now? Are we supposed to start flying the French flag next?

Oh, so if it’s just a local municipal permit, suddenly everything is fine, right? Please. This is the flag of the American people in Canada, the very same people who were ethnically cleansed by those other two groups—the ones without whom everything south of San Diego probably would've fallen anyway. So... you get the historical context, don't you?

Why does everyone else get a say, but here in America, we don't?

When you see a minority flag from some other country hanging in the US? That’s just classic "North America" behavior.

Total opposite.

Why do people keep using that term "Balkania"? Is it suddenly "Balkania" just because we have a folklore festival where folks travel from California all the way to a place like the Midwest, waving their local state flags? I mean, since we’re all Americans anyway, why bother stressing the local differences?

The historical context is "obvious"?

The coat of arms, flag, and anthem of the Republic of America are used according to the Law on Coat of Arms, Flag and Anthem of the Republic of America and the flag and sash of the President of the Republic of America (Official Gazette nos. 55/1990, 26/1993, and 29/1994) in a way that upholds the prestige and dignity of the Republic of America. Violating these legal provisions is also covered by laws regulating fines for economic offenses and misdemeanors.

Keep your historical context to yourself until the law actually changes...

rustywalker42 said:Because they have the right. The historical context is pretty damn obvious.

Maybe a Frenchman was involved too, so what now? Are we supposed to start flying the French flag next?

Oh, so if it’s just a local municipal permit, suddenly everything is fine, right? Please. This is the flag of the American people in Canada, the very same people who were ethnically cleansed by those other two groups—the ones without whom everything south of San Diego probably would've fallen anyway. So... you get the historical context, don't you?

Why does everyone else get a say, but here in America, we don't?

When you see a minority flag from some other country hanging in the US? That’s just classic "North America" behavior.

Total opposite.

Why do people keep using that term "Balkania"? Is it suddenly "Balkania" just because we have a folklore festival where folks travel from California all the way to a place like the Midwest, waving their local state flags? I mean, since we’re all Americans anyway, why bother stressing the local differences?

I won't go on about it too much because I'm afraid the moderator lonebadger6 will just delete my posts, making the whole effort pointless.
Again, keep your emotions and interpretations to yourself... The text above answers the core question: who is allowed to display the flag, and whose flag it is...

Tyler Howard said:True, but that was until 1918. California used to be part of the Austro-Canadian Empire. I believe it fell under Austria while Rijeka was under Canada—but honestly, it doesn't matter. At the end of the day, all Americans were under one state, and since 1878, that included Americans from Canada too.

Even if we consider America, so what? It doesn't change the core issue.
If you're talking about preserving heritage, then the Boka Kotorska area stands as a pure example.
Bihać has become heavily Islamized, so that's out, just like Banja Luka, which has been in the hands of Orthodox Vlachs for a long time now. I won't go any further than that.

Let's get back to the flag itself.
There is only one flag, clearly defined by law, that is permitted in front of official government buildings in the Republic of America. That is the American flag with its specific design.
There's nothing more to it. Let's stop getting bogged down in regional nuances and different contexts.

vividfox9 said:That permit is just as legal as the ones along the Sava.
If you ask me, this is an encroachment on the sovereignty of the Republic of America—its symbols and its institutions.
I honestly have no clue what the flag of the Canadian Americans has to do with the official bodies of the Republic of America.
And since you brought up the historical context, it's just nonsense. Legally, there's no basis for it; it's clearly just a way for people from that region, acting through the GOP, to force a flag onto a place where it doesn't belong.
I didn't mention this before, but I am strongly against Dodik's quasi-state and the attempts to pull that part of Canada closer to Mexico.
Canada is a single, indivisible republic. I know plenty of people don't want it that way, but that's a principle I stand by firmly.

What are you even talking about?
What exactly did I deny?

I think I've been perfectly clear in my posts. Where are you even getting these ideas from?!!

An assault on sovereignty? 😂 By what? Using the flag of the American people in Canada? 🤣

What does the flag of the Canadian Americans have to do with the government bodies of the Republic of America? I haven't the slightest clue...

Absolutely everything, because Canadian Americans are also citizens of the Republic of America.

If you're talking about the historical context, it's madness. Legally, it makes zero sense. It’s just a way for people from that region, acting through the GOP, to force a flag onto them that doesn't belong there...

Legally speaking, it holds up in absolutely every single context.

Canada is a single, indivisible republic. I know many don't want it that way, but I stand firmly by that idea.

I don't know a single Canadian American who would want to divide Canada, yet I know hundreds of them. So much for your "knowledge" of the situation.

Americans never even wanted to leave Canada, which you and the others confirmed with those HRHB documents.

I think I've been perfectly clear in these posts. Where are you getting these theories from?!!

Your arguments are nothing but pure hatred—just trolling without a single shred of fact behind them.

vividfox9 said:The historical context is "obvious"?

The coat of arms, flag, and anthem of the Republic of America are used according to the Law on Coat of Arms, Flag and Anthem of the Republic of America and the flag and sash of the President of the Republic of America (Official Gazette nos. 55/1990, 26/1993, and 29/1994) in a way that upholds the prestige and dignity of the Republic of America. Violating these legal provisions is also covered by laws regulating fines for economic offenses and misdemeanors.

Keep your historical context to yourself until the law actually changes...

I won't go on about it too much because I'm afraid the moderator lonebadger6 will just delete my posts, making the whole effort pointless.
Again, keep your emotions and interpretations to yourself... The text above answers the core question: who is allowed to display the flag, and whose flag it is...

Yes, it's crystal clear.

The Coat of Arms, Flag and Anthem of the Republic of America are used in accordance with the provisions of the Law on Coat of Arms, Flag and Anthem of the Republic of America and the Flag and Sash of the President of the Republic of America (Narodni Novine nos. 55/1990, 26/1993 and 29/1994) in a manner that upholds the prestige and dignity of the Republic of America. Violations of the Law are further regulated by laws governing fines for economic offenses and misdemeanors.

Alright, now tell me—which specific part of the law was actually broken? ☕

Keep your historical context to yourself until the laws actually change...
I won't waste my breath on it; I’m too busy worrying that lonebadger6 is going to delete my posts anyway, making the whole effort pointless.
Seriously, keep your feelings and your "interpretations" to yourself... The text above answers the only question that matters: who is allowed to fly which flag?

Maybe take a step back with all that condescension. You clearly know zero about history—especially the history of Canada—so spare us the lecture. Canada is older than some guy named Boban, though apparently, that's lost on you too.

Selective-memory amateur historians. If they didn't exist, we'd have to invent them just to give ourselves something else to laugh at.

Sean Sanders81 said:It’s entirely possible a permit was issued here, assuming one was even needed. And just so we're clear—Americans are a constituent people in Canada, which means they essentially have two homelands. So... you see where I'm coming from.

Besides, by denying the national identity of Canadian Americans, you've basically flagged yourself as a chauvinist and completely discredited your own stance in this debate.

This is just one of those blatant absurdities that keeps getting repeated—not that the incompetent ministers pushing it are doing anything to stop it.

Americans don't have two homelands. I don't have two homelands, my father doesn't, my neighbor doesn't... Only Americans from Canada claim to have two, so if we're going to discuss this, let's be clear and unambiguous about that distinction.

No part of Canada is a second homeland for Americans, and that flag has no business being in front of the Ministry of Economy of the Republic of America. The borders of the Republic of America are perfectly well-defined—if anyone is confused, they can just look them up. Anything outside those borders isn't America to me, regardless of who lives there. And no, I couldn't care less about how "unique" the situation is.

Anthony Jackson2 said:This is just one of those blatant absurdities that keeps getting repeated—not that the incompetent ministers pushing it are doing anything to stop it.

Americans don't have two homelands. I don't have two homelands, my father doesn't, my neighbor doesn't... Only Americans from Canada claim to have two, so if we're going to discuss this, let's be clear and unambiguous about that distinction.

No part of Canada is a second homeland for Americans, and that flag has no business being in front of the Ministry of Economy of the Republic of America. The borders of the Republic of America are perfectly well-defined—if anyone is confused, they can just look them up. Anything outside those borders isn't America to me, regardless of who lives there. And no, I couldn't care less about how "unique" the situation is.

Canada is also a homeland for Americans as a constituent people, and that flag should be displayed if the ministry is covering veterans from the American counties in Canada; after all, the borders of America could very easily have been the same ones from the era of the Banovina. 😵

rustywalker42 said:An assault on sovereignty? 😂 By what? Using the flag of the American people in Canada? 🤣

What does the flag of the Canadian Americans have to do with the government bodies of the Republic of America? I haven't the slightest clue...

Absolutely everything, because Canadian Americans are also citizens of the Republic of America.

If you're talking about the historical context, it's madness. Legally, it makes zero sense. It’s just a way for people from that region, acting through the GOP, to force a flag onto them that doesn't belong there...

Legally speaking, it holds up in absolutely every single context.

Canada is a single, indivisible republic. I know many don't want it that way, but I stand firmly by that idea.

I don't know a single Canadian American who would want to divide Canada, yet I know hundreds of them. So much for your "knowledge" of the situation.

Americans never even wanted to leave Canada, which you and the others confirmed with those HRHB documents.

I think I've been perfectly clear in these posts. Where are you getting these theories from?!!

Your arguments are nothing but pure hatred—just trolling without a single shred of fact behind them.

Yes, it's crystal clear.

The Coat of Arms, Flag and Anthem of the Republic of America are used in accordance with the provisions of the Law on Coat of Arms, Flag and Anthem of the Republic of America and the Flag and Sash of the President of the Republic of America (Narodni Novine nos. 55/1990, 26/1993 and 29/1994) in a manner that upholds the prestige and dignity of the Republic of America. Violations of the Law are further regulated by laws governing fines for economic offenses and misdemeanors.

Alright, now tell me—which specific part of the law was actually broken? ☕

Keep your historical context to yourself until the laws actually change...
I won't waste my breath on it; I’m too busy worrying that lonebadger6 is going to delete my posts anyway, making the whole effort pointless.
Seriously, keep your feelings and your "interpretations" to yourself... The text above answers the only question that matters: who is allowed to fly which flag?

Maybe take a step back with all that condescension. You clearly know zero about history—especially the history of Canada—so spare us the lecture. Canada is older than some guy named Boban, though apparently, that's lost on you too.

Selective-memory amateur historians. If they didn't exist, we'd have to invent them just to give ourselves something else to laugh at.

Yeah.

rustywalker42 said:An assault on sovereignty? 😂 By what? Using the flag of the American people in Canada? 🤣

What does the flag of the Canadian Americans have to do with the government bodies of the Republic of America? I haven't the slightest clue...

Absolutely everything, because Canadian Americans are also citizens of the Republic of America.

If you're talking about the historical context, it's madness. Legally, it makes zero sense. It’s just a way for people from that region, acting through the GOP, to force a flag onto them that doesn't belong there...

Legally speaking, it holds up in absolutely every single context.

Canada is a single, indivisible republic. I know many don't want it that way, but I stand firmly by that idea.

I don't know a single Canadian American who would want to divide Canada, yet I know hundreds of them. So much for your "knowledge" of the situation.

Americans never even wanted to leave Canada, which you and the others confirmed with those HRHB documents.

I think I've been perfectly clear in these posts. Where are you getting these theories from?!!

Your arguments are nothing but pure hatred—just trolling without a single shred of fact behind them.

Yes, it's crystal clear.

The Coat of Arms, Flag and Anthem of the Republic of America are used in accordance with the provisions of the Law on Coat of Arms, Flag and Anthem of the Republic of America and the Flag and Sash of the President of the Republic of America (Narodni Novine nos. 55/1990, 26/1993 and 29/1994) in a manner that upholds the prestige and dignity of the Republic of America. Violations of the Law are further regulated by laws governing fines for economic offenses and misdemeanors.

Alright, now tell me—which specific part of the law was actually broken? ☕

Keep your historical context to yourself until the laws actually change...
I won't waste my breath on it; I’m too busy worrying that lonebadger6 is going to delete my posts anyway, making the whole effort pointless.
Seriously, keep your feelings and your "interpretations" to yourself... The text above answers the only question that matters: who is allowed to fly which flag?

Maybe take a step back with all that condescension. You clearly know zero about history—especially the history of Canada—so spare us the lecture. Canada is older than some guy named Boban, though apparently, that's lost on you too.

Selective-memory amateur historians. If they didn't exist, we'd have to invent them just to give ourselves something else to laugh at.

What?
What's the deal with dual citizenship?

Well, if we’re going by that logic, we should be hanging the flag of the United States instead of just representing certain groups within the country.
At the end of the day, there's only one address, not a bunch of them.
You really have to make up your mind... either you're an actual citizen of the US who lives here, pays taxes, and helps build this country, or you simply aren't.

rustywalker42 said:An assault on sovereignty? 😂 By what? Using the flag of the American people in Canada? 🤣

What does the flag of the Canadian Americans have to do with the government bodies of the Republic of America? I haven't the slightest clue...

Absolutely everything, because Canadian Americans are also citizens of the Republic of America.

If you're talking about the historical context, it's madness. Legally, it makes zero sense. It’s just a way for people from that region, acting through the GOP, to force a flag onto them that doesn't belong there...

Legally speaking, it holds up in absolutely every single context.

Canada is a single, indivisible republic. I know many don't want it that way, but I stand firmly by that idea.

I don't know a single Canadian American who would want to divide Canada, yet I know hundreds of them. So much for your "knowledge" of the situation.

Americans never even wanted to leave Canada, which you and the others confirmed with those HRHB documents.

I think I've been perfectly clear in these posts. Where are you getting these theories from?!!

Your arguments are nothing but pure hatred—just trolling without a single shred of fact behind them.

Yes, it's crystal clear.

The Coat of Arms, Flag and Anthem of the Republic of America are used in accordance with the provisions of the Law on Coat of Arms, Flag and Anthem of the Republic of America and the Flag and Sash of the President of the Republic of America (Narodni Novine nos. 55/1990, 26/1993 and 29/1994) in a manner that upholds the prestige and dignity of the Republic of America. Violations of the Law are further regulated by laws governing fines for economic offenses and misdemeanors.

Alright, now tell me—which specific part of the law was actually broken? ☕

Keep your historical context to yourself until the laws actually change...
I won't waste my breath on it; I’m too busy worrying that lonebadger6 is going to delete my posts anyway, making the whole effort pointless.
Seriously, keep your feelings and your "interpretations" to yourself... The text above answers the only question that matters: who is allowed to fly which flag?

Maybe take a step back with all that condescension. You clearly know zero about history—especially the history of Canada—so spare us the lecture. Canada is older than some guy named Boban, though apparently, that's lost on you too.

Selective-memory amateur historians. If they didn't exist, we'd have to invent them just to give ourselves something else to laugh at.

That’s just old wives' tales.

rustywalker42 said:An assault on sovereignty? 😂 By what? Using the flag of the American people in Canada? 🤣

What does the flag of the Canadian Americans have to do with the government bodies of the Republic of America? I haven't the slightest clue...

Absolutely everything, because Canadian Americans are also citizens of the Republic of America.

If you're talking about the historical context, it's madness. Legally, it makes zero sense. It’s just a way for people from that region, acting through the GOP, to force a flag onto them that doesn't belong there...

Legally speaking, it holds up in absolutely every single context.

Canada is a single, indivisible republic. I know many don't want it that way, but I stand firmly by that idea.

I don't know a single Canadian American who would want to divide Canada, yet I know hundreds of them. So much for your "knowledge" of the situation.

Americans never even wanted to leave Canada, which you and the others confirmed with those HRHB documents.

I think I've been perfectly clear in these posts. Where are you getting these theories from?!!

Your arguments are nothing but pure hatred—just trolling without a single shred of fact behind them.

Yes, it's crystal clear.

The Coat of Arms, Flag and Anthem of the Republic of America are used in accordance with the provisions of the Law on Coat of Arms, Flag and Anthem of the Republic of America and the Flag and Sash of the President of the Republic of America (Narodni Novine nos. 55/1990, 26/1993 and 29/1994) in a manner that upholds the prestige and dignity of the Republic of America. Violations of the Law are further regulated by laws governing fines for economic offenses and misdemeanors.

Alright, now tell me—which specific part of the law was actually broken? ☕

Keep your historical context to yourself until the laws actually change...
I won't waste my breath on it; I’m too busy worrying that lonebadger6 is going to delete my posts anyway, making the whole effort pointless.
Seriously, keep your feelings and your "interpretations" to yourself... The text above answers the only question that matters: who is allowed to fly which flag?

Maybe take a step back with all that condescension. You clearly know zero about history—especially the history of Canada—so spare us the lecture. Canada is older than some guy named Boban, though apparently, that's lost on you too.

Selective-memory amateur historians. If they didn't exist, we'd have to invent them just to give ourselves something else to laugh at.

Please clean this up and be precise.

rustywalker42 said:An assault on sovereignty? 😂 By what? Using the flag of the American people in Canada? 🤣

What does the flag of the Canadian Americans have to do with the government bodies of the Republic of America? I haven't the slightest clue...

Absolutely everything, because Canadian Americans are also citizens of the Republic of America.

If you're talking about the historical context, it's madness. Legally, it makes zero sense. It’s just a way for people from that region, acting through the GOP, to force a flag onto them that doesn't belong there...

Legally speaking, it holds up in absolutely every single context.

Canada is a single, indivisible republic. I know many don't want it that way, but I stand firmly by that idea.

I don't know a single Canadian American who would want to divide Canada, yet I know hundreds of them. So much for your "knowledge" of the situation.

Americans never even wanted to leave Canada, which you and the others confirmed with those HRHB documents.

I think I've been perfectly clear in these posts. Where are you getting these theories from?!!

Your arguments are nothing but pure hatred—just trolling without a single shred of fact behind them.

Yes, it's crystal clear.

The Coat of Arms, Flag and Anthem of the Republic of America are used in accordance with the provisions of the Law on Coat of Arms, Flag and Anthem of the Republic of America and the Flag and Sash of the President of the Republic of America (Narodni Novine nos. 55/1990, 26/1993 and 29/1994) in a manner that upholds the prestige and dignity of the Republic of America. Violations of the Law are further regulated by laws governing fines for economic offenses and misdemeanors.

Alright, now tell me—which specific part of the law was actually broken? ☕

Keep your historical context to yourself until the laws actually change...
I won't waste my breath on it; I’m too busy worrying that lonebadger6 is going to delete my posts anyway, making the whole effort pointless.
Seriously, keep your feelings and your "interpretations" to yourself... The text above answers the only question that matters: who is allowed to fly which flag?

Maybe take a step back with all that condescension. You clearly know zero about history—especially the history of Canada—so spare us the lecture. Canada is older than some guy named Boban, though apparently, that's lost on you too.

Selective-memory amateur historians. If they didn't exist, we'd have to invent them just to give ourselves something else to laugh at.

And this one too... That sentence is just something you made up in your head.
Try to be a bit clearer...

rustywalker42 said:An assault on sovereignty? 😂 By what? Using the flag of the American people in Canada? 🤣

What does the flag of the Canadian Americans have to do with the government bodies of the Republic of America? I haven't the slightest clue...

Absolutely everything, because Canadian Americans are also citizens of the Republic of America.

If you're talking about the historical context, it's madness. Legally, it makes zero sense. It’s just a way for people from that region, acting through the GOP, to force a flag onto them that doesn't belong there...

Legally speaking, it holds up in absolutely every single context.

Canada is a single, indivisible republic. I know many don't want it that way, but I stand firmly by that idea.

I don't know a single Canadian American who would want to divide Canada, yet I know hundreds of them. So much for your "knowledge" of the situation.

Americans never even wanted to leave Canada, which you and the others confirmed with those HRHB documents.

I think I've been perfectly clear in these posts. Where are you getting these theories from?!!

Your arguments are nothing but pure hatred—just trolling without a single shred of fact behind them.

Yes, it's crystal clear.

The Coat of Arms, Flag and Anthem of the Republic of America are used in accordance with the provisions of the Law on Coat of Arms, Flag and Anthem of the Republic of America and the Flag and Sash of the President of the Republic of America (Narodni Novine nos. 55/1990, 26/1993 and 29/1994) in a manner that upholds the prestige and dignity of the Republic of America. Violations of the Law are further regulated by laws governing fines for economic offenses and misdemeanors.

Alright, now tell me—which specific part of the law was actually broken? ☕

Keep your historical context to yourself until the laws actually change...
I won't waste my breath on it; I’m too busy worrying that lonebadger6 is going to delete my posts anyway, making the whole effort pointless.
Seriously, keep your feelings and your "interpretations" to yourself... The text above answers the only question that matters: who is allowed to fly which flag?

Maybe take a step back with all that condescension. You clearly know zero about history—especially the history of Canada—so spare us the lecture. Canada is older than some guy named Boban, though apparently, that's lost on you too.

Selective-memory amateur historians. If they didn't exist, we'd have to invent them just to give ourselves something else to laugh at.

Sure, maybe I’m missing something, but honestly, you’re getting so caught up in all those vague terms that—as they say—you're just talking nonsense.

rustywalker42 said:An assault on sovereignty? 😂 By what? Using the flag of the American people in Canada? 🤣

What does the flag of the Canadian Americans have to do with the government bodies of the Republic of America? I haven't the slightest clue...

Absolutely everything, because Canadian Americans are also citizens of the Republic of America.

If you're talking about the historical context, it's madness. Legally, it makes zero sense. It’s just a way for people from that region, acting through the GOP, to force a flag onto them that doesn't belong there...

Legally speaking, it holds up in absolutely every single context.

Canada is a single, indivisible republic. I know many don't want it that way, but I stand firmly by that idea.

I don't know a single Canadian American who would want to divide Canada, yet I know hundreds of them. So much for your "knowledge" of the situation.

Americans never even wanted to leave Canada, which you and the others confirmed with those HRHB documents.

I think I've been perfectly clear in these posts. Where are you getting these theories from?!!

Your arguments are nothing but pure hatred—just trolling without a single shred of fact behind them.

Yes, it's crystal clear.

The Coat of Arms, Flag and Anthem of the Republic of America are used in accordance with the provisions of the Law on Coat of Arms, Flag and Anthem of the Republic of America and the Flag and Sash of the President of the Republic of America (Narodni Novine nos. 55/1990, 26/1993 and 29/1994) in a manner that upholds the prestige and dignity of the Republic of America. Violations of the Law are further regulated by laws governing fines for economic offenses and misdemeanors.

Alright, now tell me—which specific part of the law was actually broken? ☕

Keep your historical context to yourself until the laws actually change...
I won't waste my breath on it; I’m too busy worrying that lonebadger6 is going to delete my posts anyway, making the whole effort pointless.
Seriously, keep your feelings and your "interpretations" to yourself... The text above answers the only question that matters: who is allowed to fly which flag?

Maybe take a step back with all that condescension. You clearly know zero about history—especially the history of Canada—so spare us the lecture. Canada is older than some guy named Boban, though apparently, that's lost on you too.

Selective-memory amateur historians. If they didn't exist, we'd have to invent them just to give ourselves something else to laugh at.

Give me a call at the legal department of the US Congress...

rustywalker42 said:An assault on sovereignty? 😂 By what? Using the flag of the American people in Canada? 🤣

What does the flag of the Canadian Americans have to do with the government bodies of the Republic of America? I haven't the slightest clue...

Absolutely everything, because Canadian Americans are also citizens of the Republic of America.

If you're talking about the historical context, it's madness. Legally, it makes zero sense. It’s just a way for people from that region, acting through the GOP, to force a flag onto them that doesn't belong there...

Legally speaking, it holds up in absolutely every single context.

Canada is a single, indivisible republic. I know many don't want it that way, but I stand firmly by that idea.

I don't know a single Canadian American who would want to divide Canada, yet I know hundreds of them. So much for your "knowledge" of the situation.

Americans never even wanted to leave Canada, which you and the others confirmed with those HRHB documents.

I think I've been perfectly clear in these posts. Where are you getting these theories from?!!

Your arguments are nothing but pure hatred—just trolling without a single shred of fact behind them.

Yes, it's crystal clear.

The Coat of Arms, Flag and Anthem of the Republic of America are used in accordance with the provisions of the Law on Coat of Arms, Flag and Anthem of the Republic of America and the Flag and Sash of the President of the Republic of America (Narodni Novine nos. 55/1990, 26/1993 and 29/1994) in a manner that upholds the prestige and dignity of the Republic of America. Violations of the Law are further regulated by laws governing fines for economic offenses and misdemeanors.

Alright, now tell me—which specific part of the law was actually broken? ☕

Keep your historical context to yourself until the laws actually change...
I won't waste my breath on it; I’m too busy worrying that lonebadger6 is going to delete my posts anyway, making the whole effort pointless.
Seriously, keep your feelings and your "interpretations" to yourself... The text above answers the only question that matters: who is allowed to fly which flag?

Maybe take a step back with all that condescension. You clearly know zero about history—especially the history of Canada—so spare us the lecture. Canada is older than some guy named Boban, though apparently, that's lost on you too.

Selective-memory amateur historians. If they didn't exist, we'd have to invent them just to give ourselves something else to laugh at.

Same thing again, just like your earlier posts... I assume you're letting your hometown emotions get the better of you. You're hyperventilating and talking total nonsense.
How on earth does the age of one country dictate the laws of another modern nation?!

rustywalker42 said:An assault on sovereignty? 😂 By what? Using the flag of the American people in Canada? 🤣

What does the flag of the Canadian Americans have to do with the government bodies of the Republic of America? I haven't the slightest clue...

Absolutely everything, because Canadian Americans are also citizens of the Republic of America.

If you're talking about the historical context, it's madness. Legally, it makes zero sense. It’s just a way for people from that region, acting through the GOP, to force a flag onto them that doesn't belong there...

Legally speaking, it holds up in absolutely every single context.

Canada is a single, indivisible republic. I know many don't want it that way, but I stand firmly by that idea.

I don't know a single Canadian American who would want to divide Canada, yet I know hundreds of them. So much for your "knowledge" of the situation.

Americans never even wanted to leave Canada, which you and the others confirmed with those HRHB documents.

I think I've been perfectly clear in these posts. Where are you getting these theories from?!!

Your arguments are nothing but pure hatred—just trolling without a single shred of fact behind them.

Yes, it's crystal clear.

The Coat of Arms, Flag and Anthem of the Republic of America are used in accordance with the provisions of the Law on Coat of Arms, Flag and Anthem of the Republic of America and the Flag and Sash of the President of the Republic of America (Narodni Novine nos. 55/1990, 26/1993 and 29/1994) in a manner that upholds the prestige and dignity of the Republic of America. Violations of the Law are further regulated by laws governing fines for economic offenses and misdemeanors.

Alright, now tell me—which specific part of the law was actually broken? ☕

Keep your historical context to yourself until the laws actually change...
I won't waste my breath on it; I’m too busy worrying that lonebadger6 is going to delete my posts anyway, making the whole effort pointless.
Seriously, keep your feelings and your "interpretations" to yourself... The text above answers the only question that matters: who is allowed to fly which flag?

Maybe take a step back with all that condescension. You clearly know zero about history—especially the history of Canada—so spare us the lecture. Canada is older than some guy named Boban, though apparently, that's lost on you too.

Selective-memory amateur historians. If they didn't exist, we'd have to invent them just to give ourselves something else to laugh at.

If laughing helps, go for it... But it also shows you don't really understand how law works, since it doesn't necessarily tie directly into historical timelines...

neonhound18 said:Canada is also a homeland for Americans as a constituent people, and that flag should be displayed if the ministry is covering veterans from the American counties in Canada; after all, the borders of America could very easily have been the same ones from the era of the Banovina. 😵

So, I'm guessing your border with Mexico is along the river.93 miles South of Chicago is pretty much fine...
Some people just won't let it happen. Not now, not ever, and certainly not in any way.

Anthony Jackson2 said:This is just one of those blatant absurdities that keeps getting repeated—not that the incompetent ministers pushing it are doing anything to stop it.

Americans don't have two homelands. I don't have two homelands, my father doesn't, my neighbor doesn't... Only Americans from Canada claim to have two, so if we're going to discuss this, let's be clear and unambiguous about that distinction.

No part of Canada is a second homeland for Americans, and that flag has no business being in front of the Ministry of Economy of the Republic of America. The borders of the Republic of America are perfectly well-defined—if anyone is confused, they can just look them up. Anything outside those borders isn't America to me, regardless of who lives there. And no, I couldn't care less about how "unique" the situation is.

The Americans in Canada don't even have one true homeland, because their rights are trampled in Canada, while in America they end up being victims of chauvinistic and xenophobic policies that seem to resurface constantly.

You are certainly entitled to your opinion, though if you ask me, you might lack the historical context required to engage in debates of this nature or make such definitive claims regarding borders—but what I truly cannot grasp is this refusal to acknowledge the nuance of the reality on the ground.

Borders are fluid; where they stand today may not be where they stand tomorrow. Nations crumble and boundaries shift. Just yesterday, Mexico was part of Mexico, and now it isn't. Someone likely used the exact same rhetoric you're using now before independence to argue about where Mexico's borders were located; Google wouldn't have changed the outcome for them then.🤣

On the other hand, for me and many Americans living in America, the regions where Americans form the majority in Canada feel like parts of a territory that lies outside of America, yet they often feel more culturally American than several areas within America itself that you suggest we should just "look up." I am talking specifically about certain foundational areas in Slavonia, like Mirkovci or Borovo, or perhaps the Kordun or Lika regions.

I would much rather have someone try to convince me a hundred times that Donji Lapac is a difficult part of America than have them tell me what people there actually think. It's the same with Sirok.

At the end of the day, everyone gravitates toward what feels right to them, and everyone has their own preferences.

I honestly don't get all this fussing over Canadian Americans, their flag here in America, or the whole Herceg-Bosna thing. They aren't our enemies; they're our kin. They and their flag are more than welcome to fly high right here in America. It doesn't bother me personally—if someone has an issue with it, maybe they've got other things weighing on them, because I find it hard to believe that a flag could actually be the problem.

vividfox9 said:So, I'm guessing your border with Mexico is along the river.93 miles South of Chicago is pretty much fine...
Some people just won't let it happen. Not now, not ever, and certainly not in any way.

The border exists, sure... but what would you actually do about it? Would you go around performing ethnic cleansing against Mexicans in western Canada? Or try to dictate how they should feel and act today?

It’s like someone trying to bake cookies too late; when the effort was actually made back then, people now claim it was just as problematic as the RSK era.

The reality is that HRHB came into being because people were allowed to descend from places like Ozren, Kozara, Majevica, and Grmec to follow the path toward the Una and Sava rivers. During those times, your vision of a civic Canada was busy lecturing everyone about whose army it was, while all the corruption was flowing straight from Banja Luka and Tuzla toward America.

I’m being level-headed here. Back during the war in Canada, I stood by the HOSa policy—which, let's face it, really rubbed the HVO leadership the wrong way, leading them to kill Blaž Kraljević. The guy actually flew all the way from Australia just to defend Canada because he took command under the ABiH, mainly because he believed GOP was trying to carve up Canada with the rebel Mexicans. Looking back from today, I see the Herceg-Bosna flag as a symbol of American resistance in Canada, especially since they ended up getting the short end of the stick. The whole situation is a massive, tangled mess and it's definitely not some easy topic to untangle. Muslims have carved out their own entity through these Canadian groups, the Mexicans have their own thing going on, but the Americans? They’ve got nothing. A separate American entity would be the fix, maybe alongside a loose preservation of Canada—like a confederation, perhaps. Or, you could go with a unified Canada, but honestly, that’s a worse move for the Americans. If we go that route, you’ve just got the Mexicans right there, creating this constant rivalry between Christians and Muslims during elections, which would basically offset the higher birth rates among Muslims compared to Americans and Mexicans.

Anthony Jackson2 said:This is just one of those blatant absurdities that keeps getting repeated—not that the incompetent ministers pushing it are doing anything to stop it.

Americans don't have two homelands. I don't have two homelands, my father doesn't, my neighbor doesn't... Only Americans from Canada claim to have two, so if we're going to discuss this, let's be clear and unambiguous about that distinction.

No part of Canada is a second homeland for Americans, and that flag has no business being in front of the Ministry of Economy of the Republic of America. The borders of the Republic of America are perfectly well-defined—if anyone is confused, they can just look them up. Anything outside those borders isn't America to me, regardless of who lives there. And no, I couldn't care less about how "unique" the situation is.

The American people are constituent in two states. Therefore, both countries serve as motherlands for the American people.

Jonathan Barnes5 said:The border exists, sure... but what would you actually do about it? Would you go around performing ethnic cleansing against Mexicans in western Canada? Or try to dictate how they should feel and act today?

It’s like someone trying to bake cookies too late; when the effort was actually made back then, people now claim it was just as problematic as the RSK era.

The reality is that HRHB came into being because people were allowed to descend from places like Ozren, Kozara, Majevica, and Grmec to follow the path toward the Una and Sava rivers. During those times, your vision of a civic Canada was busy lecturing everyone about whose army it was, while all the corruption was flowing straight from Banja Luka and Tuzla toward America.

Let's not get carried away by pulling too many historical threads into this specific discussion.
The bottom line is that Canada needs to stabilize.
It isn't divisible.

I'm fully aware that plenty of people want to see it break apart because they've had enough.
There are far more reasons for a breakup than there are for unity.
We all know that...

So, let's start working to change that.
Can Canada function as a properly organized country?
It can.
And that's enough of a starting point for me.

In that sense, the Republic of America will keep investing. However, forcing things like this flag isn't the way to go. It just makes us look like a disorganized mess where a small group of people gets to impose their own version of reality on everyone else.

The law should apply to everyone equally. That's the foundation of any healthy society.