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Will there ever be peace?

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Michael Gonzalez77 Michael Gonzalez77 Active Member
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#61 ·
steelgardener22 said:Maria Robinson2, you sound like a Jehovah's Witness. Your whole idea about future peace on Earth relies on some divine intervention and the glorious return of Christ... which is exactly what the Bible says, and it's something the Witnesses love to spin into these elaborate, vivid little fantasies in all sorts of ways...

The problem is, all of that seems to stay trapped within the walls of stories and small-talk circles. Today, the "Body of Christ" has splintered into some 40,000 different sects. Every single one claims they have the truth, and everyone is convinced they've got it figured out—but if you actually look at how these people live, their daily lives usually tell a completely different story than those simple principles they preach.
David Vaughn75 David Vaughn75 Regular
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#62 ·
Sam Martinez9 said:Responsibility is an individual matter.

Someone holding a smartphone shouldn't be held accountable for the actions of a soldier, regardless of whether that soldier belongs to their own nation or a foreign one.

The responsibility lies with the soldier. The soldier is the one holding the rifle, operating the tank, or firing the mortar...

We aren't omnipotent; we can only do what is within our power. That is where our true responsibility lies—asking ourselves if we have done everything possible. Take yourself, for instance. Suppose you despise certain officials in Washington. Can you personally do anything to remove a Secretary you disagree with? And even if you could, how would you ensure someone just as bad doesn't simply slide into that seat under a different name?

Perhaps young people have simply realized that they are powerless to change the system.

That said, the burden of taking action arguably falls more heavily on the older generation. Older citizens understand the levers of power and know they have the agency to pull them. The youth are still just learning the ropes and trying to find their footing in society.

It's like a massive river flowing by—what does my tiny little drop even matter in all that water?
But hey, if you cast your vote against a government that's busy picking fights and spreading violence, you've done your part.

If you sat on the fence and didn't vote for anyone at all, you still carry a bit of the blame—it might not be huge, but it's there.
Even doing nothing... yeah, you're responsible for that too.
rapidbear65 rapidbear65 Active Member
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#63 ·
electrictinker26 said:Will there ever truly be peace on this earth? I find myself wondering if this planet is even meant to be a place of tranquility, or if we are destined to be an eternal battlefield for the forces of good and evil. Is fighting for what is right even worth the effort? For those who are spiritually inclined—those who have found connection with God, Jesus, or whoever they choose to follow as they seek to transcend this physical realm—does our duty lie in rising above this world, or in staying deeply embedded within its struggles? Perhaps this entire existence is merely a dream, and God is simply waiting for us to wake up and return to Him.

I don't think peace will ever happen, unless the admin can fix it...

As long as we have hurricanes, blizzards, rain, heatwaves, droughts, frozen tundras, and scorching tropics... there's gonna be wars.
Michael Gonzalez77 Michael Gonzalez77 Active Member
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#64 ·
rapidbear65 said:As long as we have hurricanes, blizzards, rain, heatwaves, droughts, frozen tundras, and scorching tropics... there's gonna be wars.

That isn't really what causes human suffering, intolerance, or war. Honestly, the true cause of conflict is right under our noses, but people just refuse to look it in the eye. It’s about time we started facing reality.
rapidbear65 rapidbear65 Active Member
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#65 ·
Michael Gonzalez77 said:That isn't really what causes human suffering, intolerance, or war. Honestly, the true cause of conflict is right under our noses, but people just refuse to look it in the eye. It’s about time we started facing reality.

Man, thanks! I hadn't even thought about it that way. I'm sticking to my guns though. Might sound blunt, but that's just how I feel...
Michael Gonzalez77 Michael Gonzalez77 Active Member
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#66 ·
rapidbear65 said:Man, thanks! I hadn't even thought about it that way. I'm sticking to my guns though. Might sound blunt, but that's just how I feel...

To me, what you're saying sounds like a beautiful song—in the sense that war exists as a constant, much like the planets exist. It isn't tied to people as a direct cause, but people are deeply intertwined with one another. At their core, the triggers for war are issues of selfishness, both personal and collective. Those simmering tensions of intolerance are really just symptoms of a deeper malfunction in how we think—viewing life primarily as a scramble for power and wealth. Even that struggle is driven by a flawed mindset that piles up an endless mountain of negative thoughts, toxic emotions, and stress. Everything else is just secondary external noise, often used as an excuse or framed as a "holy" cause—like fighting for a specific religion, a social class, or God. Of course, you also have the defensive side of things, where people fight back out of pure repulsion against those injustices, which is a completely different animal entirely.
Maria Parker77 Maria Parker77 Active Member
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#67 ·
electrictinker26 said:Will there ever truly be peace on this earth? I find myself wondering if this planet is even meant to be a place of tranquility, or if we are destined to be an eternal battlefield for the forces of good and evil. Is fighting for what is right even worth the effort? For those who are spiritually inclined—those who have found connection with God, Jesus, or whoever they choose to follow as they seek to transcend this physical realm—does our duty lie in rising above this world, or in staying deeply embedded within its struggles? Perhaps this entire existence is merely a dream, and God is simply waiting for us to wake up and return to Him.

I don't think peace will ever happen, unless the admin can fix it...

Oh, it’ll happen, "soon"—if things keep going the way they are. We're looking at another ExxonMobil-style disaster or another massive terrorist attack here in the West, and then, finally, humanity will realize we're all part of the same nation. You can't fight fire with fire; you just end up with a bigger damn fire. That said, the future isn't set in stone. Everything can change, but you have to look at the odds. Ten or fifteen years ago, there was a 95% chance that a bomb made in Iran would be detonated right here in the USA, but that specific threat isn't even on the table anymore. As for global peace? On an individual level, peace is a choice you make—usually after you've been through absolute hell.
rapidbear65 rapidbear65 Active Member
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#68 ·
Michael Gonzalez77 said:To me, what you're saying sounds like a beautiful song—in the sense that war exists as a constant, much like the planets exist. It isn't tied to people as a direct cause, but people are deeply intertwined with one another. At their core, the triggers for war are issues of selfishness, both personal and collective. Those simmering tensions of intolerance are really just symptoms of a deeper malfunction in how we think—viewing life primarily as a scramble for power and wealth. Even that struggle is driven by a flawed mindset that piles up an endless mountain of negative thoughts, toxic emotions, and stress. Everything else is just secondary external noise, often used as an excuse or framed as a "holy" cause—like fighting for a specific religion, a social class, or God. Of course, you also have the defensive side of things, where people fight back out of pure repulsion against those injustices, which is a completely different animal entirely.

you just swap out man and war at the start of the post
Michael Gonzalez77 Michael Gonzalez77 Active Member
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#69 ·
rapidbear65 said:you just swap out man and war at the start of the post

It feels like war and humanity are fundamentally linked. You can't have war without people, sure, but you certainly have people without war. However, if we look at higher levels of consciousness—honestly, even saying this feels harsh—we’re still stuck at an animalistic level.

The internal conflict within a person is far more significant than any external natural disaster. Based on the thousands of years of history we actually know about, that's been the case. Even mythology hints at a time when "demigods" existed, representing a peak before the "fall from Paradise" (and I'm not talking about a specific Biblical scene involving Adam and Eve here). This suggests there was once a version of humanity with a much higher level of awareness that somehow slipped away, a concept echoed in various esoteric teachings.

In early societies where food was abundant, nobody was fighting. Once the need to seize resources kicked in, war became a byproduct of social migrations. But in more recent history—looking at the dominant mindsets of different eras like slavery, feudalism, or capitalism—war itself has become distorted. The motives change, though they all essentially boil down to a "struggle for power and wealth." That struggle stems from a flawed human psyche: the accumulation of unnatural impulses and the desperate need to act them out. Today, those motives are even more warped. While the core remains economic, it’s more like a fog of consciousness where leaders play at war while creating devastating, very real consequences.
Charles Lopez3 Charles Lopez3 Active Member
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#70 ·
rapidbear65 said:As long as we have hurricanes, blizzards, rain, heatwaves, droughts, frozen tundras, and scorching tropics... there's gonna be wars.

Nah, man, you've got it all wrong.
As long as there is greed driving things,
wars are inevitable.

It's really just war profiteers
and big corporate interests☕
spinning the whole thing.
electrictinker26 electrictinker26 Active MemberOP
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#71 ·
Is it possible to theorize that extreme weather events, like hurricanes, are actually just energetic consequences of human thought and action?
Lawrence Torres56 Lawrence Torres56 Active Member
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#72 ·
electrictinker26 said:Is it possible to theorize that extreme weather events, like hurricanes, are actually just energetic consequences of human thought and action?

Honestly, it’s totally plausible... even if it sounds a little wild when I say it out loud, you know? Personally, I find myself believing more and more every single day that what the old folks used to call "God's punishment or reward" might actually be the real deal.
Michael Gonzalez77 Michael Gonzalez77 Active Member
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#73 ·
Lawrence Torres56 said:Honestly, it’s totally plausible... even if it sounds a little wild when I say it out loud, you know? Personally, I find myself believing more and more every single day that what the old folks used to call "God's punishment or reward" might actually be the real deal.

Think of a negative thought—what the conscious mind perceives as a specific threat—as a spherical wave emitted by the brain. It doesn't just react with the person's aura; it actually does its greatest damage by merging with that energy, creating blockages and heavy baggage. This triggers a chain reaction within the energetic system of the aura itself. To put it simply, the aura is a much more complex functional system than the physical body; the body is really just a condensed part of the aura, acting as its representative. All those things we talk about—health, intelligence, creativity, intuition, spirituality—are just the functions of the aura manifesting through our physical shells. When this interference happens, the entire functioning of the aura takes a hit, leading to shifts in health and every other vital area.

This isn't some fringe theory; it's a well-known phenomenon. The only difference is how it’s explained. In ancient times, people experienced these cause-and-effect relationships directly because their sensibilities were much closer to the natural world. Nowadays, most people don't notice a problem until the house is already on fire.

So, here is the kicker: how does that spherical wave of thought (along with stress, which the brain emits differently and is actually far more destructive, though less frequent than the thousands of negative thoughts we have daily) affect the very structure of the Earth's aura? As crazy as that might sound, it's a real factor.

Disturbances in the planet's aura (and partly the Sun's, since they act as living, highly conscious organisms) occasionally lead to phenomena that don't fit into standard geological cycles. If the Earth's aura were damaged to the extent it was 100 years before Jesus, the whole thing could potentially collapse. That sounds vague, I know, but the idea is that the destruction of the planet would be driven by the practical reality of human thought patterns—the sheer volume of negative energy being pumped out every single second. One of the primary roles of Jesus, as an incredibly advanced energetic being (an Avatar), is to work on cleansing the planet's aura. Again, as strange as this may seem to many, very few people are willing to even consider this as a possibility or a hypothesis, even though it's a straightforward law within the realm of how the energetic side of creation manifests.
Lawrence Torres56 Lawrence Torres56 Active Member
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#74 ·
Michael Gonzalez77 said:Think of a negative thought—what the conscious mind perceives as a specific threat—as a spherical wave emitted by the brain. It doesn't just react with the person's aura; it actually does its greatest damage by merging with that energy, creating blockages and heavy baggage. This triggers a chain reaction within the energetic system of the aura itself. To put it simply, the aura is a much more complex functional system than the physical body; the body is really just a condensed part of the aura, acting as its representative. All those things we talk about—health, intelligence, creativity, intuition, spirituality—are just the functions of the aura manifesting through our physical shells. When this interference happens, the entire functioning of the aura takes a hit, leading to shifts in health and every other vital area.

This isn't some fringe theory; it's a well-known phenomenon. The only difference is how it’s explained. In ancient times, people experienced these cause-and-effect relationships directly because their sensibilities were much closer to the natural world. Nowadays, most people don't notice a problem until the house is already on fire.

So, here is the kicker: how does that spherical wave of thought (along with stress, which the brain emits differently and is actually far more destructive, though less frequent than the thousands of negative thoughts we have daily) affect the very structure of the Earth's aura? As crazy as that might sound, it's a real factor.

Disturbances in the planet's aura (and partly the Sun's, since they act as living, highly conscious organisms) occasionally lead to phenomena that don't fit into standard geological cycles. If the Earth's aura were damaged to the extent it was 100 years before Jesus, the whole thing could potentially collapse. That sounds vague, I know, but the idea is that the destruction of the planet would be driven by the practical reality of human thought patterns—the sheer volume of negative energy being pumped out every single second. One of the primary roles of Jesus, as an incredibly advanced energetic being (an Avatar), is to work on cleansing the planet's aura. Again, as strange as this may seem to many, very few people are willing to even consider this as a possibility or a hypothesis, even though it's a straightforward law within the realm of how the energetic side of creation manifests.

Based on what he's saying, it sounds like we might actually be circling back to that old-school, "closer to nature" way of thinking after all, doesn't it?😁
electrictinker26 electrictinker26 Active MemberOP
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#75 ·
Lawrence Torres56 said:Honestly, it’s totally plausible... even if it sounds a little wild when I say it out loud, you know? Personally, I find myself believing more and more every single day that what the old folks used to call "God's punishment or reward" might actually be the real deal.

Exactly. The real question is whether we are punishing ourselves, or if God is doing the punishing. Personally, I tend to think it's the former.
Maria Robinson2 Maria Robinson2 Active Member
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#76 ·
The closest thing to a natural prediction would be:

"While they are saying, 'Peace and security!' sudden destruction comes upon them, just like labor pains—and it won't go away."
1 Thessalonians 5:3

The world should probably take a look at whether there actually is any peace or security left...
Maybe some spiritual leaders could review this, since it's essentially their main area of expertise.
Maria Robinson2 Maria Robinson2 Active Member
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#77 ·
Angela
,
It’s curious to me that you don't seem to grasp the concept of a real life—though I suppose it's not surprising given you can't find where it's mentioned in the Bible.

You see, angel, that's where the instructions for the peace everyone keeps talking about are located. ☕
Lawrence Torres56 Lawrence Torres56 Active Member
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#78 ·
electrictinker26 said:Exactly. The real question is whether we are punishing ourselves, or if God is doing the punishing. Personally, I tend to think it's the former.

I don't know, man, it’s totally possible... but after everything that's been going down lately, I can't help but feel like we're witnessing some kind of divine cleansing. It feels more like it's being triggered by the collective bitterness of everyone else—not necessarily out of pure malice, but just sheer resentment—rather than some individual "self-punishment" from someone who spent years intentionally twisting the knife in people's most sensitive spots...🤷
rapidbear65 rapidbear65 Active Member
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#79 ·
Charles Lopez3 said:Nah, man, you've got it all wrong.
As long as there is greed driving things,
wars are inevitable.

It's really just war profiteers
and big corporate interests☕
spinning the whole thing.

But where does that greed even come from in us?
Charles Lopez3 Charles Lopez3 Active Member
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#80 ·
rapidbear65 said:But where does that greed even come from in us?

it all stems from a total lack of respect,
basically ignoring the Ten Commandments—you know, basic ethics and morality.


even if people are showing up to church every Sunday.
the American model 😁

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