Will there ever be peace?

David Vaughn75 said:And honestly? The psyche is just as material as anything else; it's just operating on a much finer, more subtle level.

Fair enough.
Persistence is really the defining characteristic of matter, isn't it? That non-material stuff tends to be fleeting by its very nature... though I suppose we can't apply the standard physical laws—you know, things involving mass, dimensions, and the like—directly to the psyche.
If physics represents the thesis and the psyche acts as the antithesis, then perhaps a human being is, quite simply, the synthesis. 🙂

Larry Moore83 said:Fair enough.
Persistence is really the defining characteristic of matter, isn't it? That non-material stuff tends to be fleeting by its very nature... though I suppose we can't apply the standard physical laws—you know, things involving mass, dimensions, and the like—directly to the psyche.
If physics represents the thesis and the psyche acts as the antithesis, then perhaps a human being is, quite simply, the synthesis. 🙂

For the mind to function normally, it follows the same bioenergetic laws as the rest of the body. It all comes down to how the aura functions; it's energetic in nature, sitting right at that intersection where matter meets more subtle energies.

Michael Gonzalez77 said:For the mind to function normally, it follows the same bioenergetic laws as the rest of the body. It all comes down to how the aura functions; it's energetic in nature, sitting right at that intersection where matter meets more subtle energies.

I suppose I can get behind that, provided you aren't suggesting that a deceased person simply ceases to function entirely—after all, if the body was healthy in life, the spirit was healthy too, right?

To me, all this talk about bioenergetics, auras, and esoterica feels a bit like discovering water is wet... 😁

Lawrence Torres56 said:So, if we follow that logic, being educated means you're actually conscious, right? 😁
...well, honestly, that's one of the biggest delusions of the modern age.

Sadly enough,
the educated actually *do* have that awareness.
They know exactly what they should or shouldn't be doing.
And they've known it for two thousand years now.

Larry Moore83 said:I suppose I can get behind that, provided you aren't suggesting that a deceased person simply ceases to function entirely—after all, if the body was healthy in life, the spirit was healthy too, right?

To me, all this talk about bioenergetics, auras, and esoterica feels a bit like discovering water is wet... 😁

It really comes down to that old saying: "a healthy mind in a healthy body." When people talk about aura or bioenergy, they aren't just using psychological buzzwords. These terms describe the general radiation of energy—or more specifically, that subtle "body" that acts as an extension of our physical self. Think of the physical body as the densest part of this energetic structure. Since the aura isn't visible to the naked eye, only those who have trained themselves to perceive energy can actually see it. For some, it’s a simple, intuitive sensation; for others, it’s a much more complex process. People have spent lifetimes studying this, mapping out its laws, how it functions, and the various energy centers within it.

Beyond our five basic senses used to gather data, think of the aura as the primary antenna—the main conductor that pulls massive amounts of information straight from the ether. Honestly, if you look at top-tier scientists, their ability to tap into that "inner reservoir" of knowledge is often the driving force behind their most groundbreaking research. Our physical senses are incredibly limited; they’re basically survival tools designed to keep us alive, not instruments meant for high-level intelligence, creativity, or spiritual growth.

Even inside an aura—specifically within those denser patches and energy currents—the standard laws of physics still apply. You’ve got gravity, centrifugal force, osmosis, and all that. But there's also a different set of rules at play here; certain physical laws just don't hold up because of how dense the matter is, whereas the laws governing wave energy propagation take over completely.

Larry Moore83 said:Fair enough.
Persistence is really the defining characteristic of matter, isn't it? That non-material stuff tends to be fleeting by its very nature... though I suppose we can't apply the standard physical laws—you know, things involving mass, dimensions, and the like—directly to the psyche.
If physics represents the thesis and the psyche acts as the antithesis, then perhaps a human being is, quite simply, the synthesis. 🙂

Where exactly do you see any permanence? Matter isn't stable at all—it’s constantly shifting from one moment to the next. It ages, decays, rots, and eventually vanishes. That’s the whole point of the material universe being an illusion; it lacks substance because it lacks constancy. The only thing that actually remains constant—the only thing unchangeable—is the consciousness or presence from which all this matter arises. Are you even the same person you were when you were fifteen? Every single cell in your body replaces itself every few months. There probably isn't a single physical part of you left that connects to that teenager, yet there's this persistent feeling—this sense that you are still *you*. The issue is that we somehow mistake the eternal, unchanging reality for the fleeting, illusory mess we call matter.

Michael Gonzalez77 and Paul Rogers94, have either of you ever actually sat down and contemplated the concept of the substitution of theses? 😬

And yes—before anyone asks—I am indeed the exact same person I was back when I was fifteen, even now at forty-three... Larry Moore83.
The very same. 😁

Charles Lopez3 said:Sadly enough,
the educated actually *do* have that awareness.
They know exactly what they should or shouldn't be doing.
And they've known it for two thousand years now.

Where did you get "2,000 years" from? It's not like there weren't wars before then...

Michael Gonzalez77 said:For the mind to function normally, it follows the same bioenergetic laws as the rest of the body. It all comes down to how the aura functions; it's energetic in nature, sitting right at that intersection where matter meets more subtle energies.

So, if we're talking about this energetic aura governing how the psyche works, I guess one might wonder
... what people actually do with that information?

Give me a practical example of how this plays out in everyday life—for instance:
your boss at work tells you that your performance is slipping and he’s cutting your overtime...
and you just respond with, "Sorry, can't hear you, my aura is too intense right now."
(Which, I suppose, is perfectly valid from an energetic standpoint.)

Maria Robinson2 said:So, if we're talking about this energetic aura governing how the psyche works, I guess one might wonder
... what people actually do with that information?

Give me a practical example of how this plays out in everyday life—for instance:
your boss at work tells you that your performance is slipping and he’s cutting your overtime...
and you just respond with, "Sorry, can't hear you, my aura is too intense right now."
(Which, I suppose, is perfectly valid from an energetic standpoint.)

I won't engage with any banalization of this.
The aura is the very essence of a person; there is no being without an aura. The physical body is simply a component located at the center of the aura, manifesting its functions: psychophysical, intellectual, creative, informational, spiritual development, and several other core processes. An aura typically consists of ten main functions and various sub-functions, spanning about 25 meters across ten distinct layers. Only extremely highly developed individuals reach an eleventh layer, while some rare cases involve someone's aura being damaged down to nine or even eight layers.

Talking about the aura is like asking, "What should people know about their own bodies? Why would they care?"

The aura represents growth. Spiritual development is essentially the maturation of the aura, along with other non-physical components tied to it. The chakra system is one of the primary channels through which "gray bioenergy" is drawn from the surrounding environment, while the meridian system acts like the circulation for "white bioenergy." The relationship between gray and white bioenergy is governed by the laws of bioenergetics. A person's healthy aura function is dictated by four specific laws of bioenergetics, while spiritual maturity is guided by a fifth, and so on. That's just a rough outline of the knowledge.

Health functions relate directly to the state of the aura—specifically, deviations from bioenergetic laws. In over 80% of cases, structural disruptions in the aura are caused by spherical waves of negative thoughts or stress waves. Just as this knowledge exists, there are many other methods dedicated to aiding aura development, cleansing, and prevention (something similar to Kriya Yoga from the East, which strengthens the human energetic system).

There isn't a single rigid rule for spiritual growth, but true spiritual progress cannot happen without a pure aura. In other words, you need the synchronized functioning of the nervous system, which is the result of the aura's ten main functions working in harmony. This also extends to mental alignment—meaning a mindset almost entirely free from negative thoughts and harmful emotions, perhaps allowing for a negligible 0-5% margin.

As the aura matures, a phenomenon known as the "Yellow Core" appears. It starts in the center of the aura, somewhere in front of the chest and abdomen, and gradually expands from a tiny point until it envelops the entire body (over 2 meters). This core consists of a noble energy that, much like human consciousness (white bioenergy), holds a massive amount of knowledge. It represents a new level of awareness and the very essence of the aura. Later stages of development culminate in the full maturation of this Yellow Core, eventually leading to expansion and what we call enlightenment. It is all an energetic process; the physical body is merely the living shell through which these life energies operate.

Michael Gonzalez77,

For most people, the banalization of these ideas is just quoting snippets from philosophy books—books written by authors who probably couldn't even
address anything concrete if their lives depended on it.

And we aren't really talking about the physical body here—it's more about the spirit (or what some might call the "psyche").

Ever heard of an aura?
It’s that sensation where your body stays in one room while your mind drifts through the wall into the next,
so you already know exactly what you're looking for in the fridge before you've even stepped foot in the kitchen.

If an aura doesn't manifest as a mental craving for a meal, and then a war breaks out in the kitchen, I guess there's no hope for inner peace.

Maria Robinson2 said:Michael Gonzalez77,

For most people, the banalization of these ideas is just quoting snippets from philosophy books—books written by authors who probably couldn't even
address anything concrete if their lives depended on it.

And we aren't really talking about the physical body here—it's more about the spirit (or what some might call the "psyche").

Ever heard of an aura?
It’s that sensation where your body stays in one room while your mind drifts through the wall into the next,
so you already know exactly what you're looking for in the fridge before you've even stepped foot in the kitchen.

If an aura doesn't manifest as a mental craving for a meal, and then a war breaks out in the kitchen, I guess there's no hope for inner peace.

Your example about the "boss" was just banalization. Beyond that, I explained what an aura truly is, rather than what someone thinks it is (like your opinion, which stems from a lack of actual knowledge on the subject).

The psyche is also a component of both the aura and the brain (both energetically and organically). Regarding the meridians that channel white bioenergy circulation, there are three specific "psychic meridians" that drain excess white bioenergy away from the brain. If these become partially or fully blocked by byproducts created by brain activity—specifically waves of negative thoughts and stress—then the brain loses its normal function. This leads to psychological distress, and if it becomes significant enough, it results in chronic mental health issues.

Please, everyone understands that banalization isn't just about making everyday comparisons.

What do you think people actually enjoy discussing—philosophical texts or reality?
You see,
spirituality isn't philosophy
or rather
philosophy doesn't offer a spiritual journey
in other words
one can only travel quite short distances through spirituality.

Need more explanation? I hope not.

Maria Robinson2 said:Please, everyone understands that banalization isn't just about making everyday comparisons.

What do you think people actually enjoy discussing—philosophical texts or reality?
You see,
spirituality isn't philosophy
or rather
philosophy doesn't offer a spiritual journey
in other words
one can only travel quite short distances through spirituality.

Need more explanation? I hope not.

Banalization applies to any topic where someone resorts to it. People resort to it because they feel the need to say *something*, but since they have nothing substantive to offer, they just spout nonsense. Essentially, they just keep circling back to the same points, wasting energy trying to defend things that don't matter.

I was talking about the psyche from the perspective of how it functions energetically and how that impacts a person's overall state—including what we call "peace." What exactly you're getting at by building on this is up to you, but it doesn't really have anything to do with what I was saying.

How are we ever supposed to find peace? Even when people turn to spirituality, they end up attacking one another just to defend some rigid "stance" or "opinion." It’s even worse in everyday life, where someone might be willing to destroy everything they’ve built just because they’re convinced they’re right about some trivial point—driven by this desperate need to prove themselves or whatever else. And don't even get me started on the various types of egomaniacs out there.

electrictinker26 said:How are we ever supposed to find peace? Even when people turn to spirituality, they end up attacking one another just to defend some rigid "stance" or "opinion." It’s even worse in everyday life, where someone might be willing to destroy everything they’ve built just because they’re convinced they’re right about some trivial point—driven by this desperate need to prove themselves or whatever else. And don't even get me started on the various types of egomaniacs out there.

The fact that someone posts on a forum with a specific name doesn't actually mean anything. 🙂

He’s just claiming we won't—or rather, can't—reach any kind of peace settlement.

But look, there is a slim, tiny chance that we might actually reconcile. One day, eventually, I suppose.

There are endless reasons why peace feels out of reach, and countless ways we find ourselves feeling unhappy or unfulfilled. But if you look closely, every single one of those reasons eventually circles back to the same core issues: "me," "myself," "my needs," or "our interests." It’s a pattern most of us recognize all too well.

Essentially, our ego-driven mechanisms dictate our entire reality—deciding what we do, how we act, and why we react. The cost of living this way is incredibly steep, though we rarely notice it at the time. It's a subconscious surrender of our mental, emotional, and physical freedom.

electrictinker26 said:Will there ever truly be peace on this earth? I find myself wondering if this planet is even meant to be a place of tranquility, or if we are destined to be an eternal battlefield for the forces of good and evil. Is fighting for what is right even worth the effort? For those who are spiritually inclined—those who have found connection with God, Jesus, or whoever they choose to follow as they seek to transcend this physical realm—does our duty lie in rising above this world, or in staying deeply embedded within its struggles? Perhaps this entire existence is merely a dream, and God is simply waiting for us to wake up and return to Him.

I don't think peace will ever happen, unless the admin can fix it...

Nah, not in the long run anyway. This whole cosmic game involving the elements and everything is eternal within the universe... the show must go on, right? And if you look at it from a psychological angle rather than just the religious side, the answer is still no. Human nature just doesn't allow for universal peace—those primal, old-school instincts are just too hardwired into us.

You might find some peace within yourself or maybe within your own little bubble, and sure, you can influence things on a small scale, which isn't bad, but you really gotta stop obsessing over changing the whole wide world. You should focus on changing yourself and finding your own "zen"... the world will take care of itself, it’s not some rudderless boat drifting aimlessly.

As for what you're asking, if you talk to some Hindus, you aren't far off from the truth... the universe is basically just an illusion. It's like seeing the reflection of the Moon in a pool of water—always appearing real, constantly shifting, totally tangible to people but lacking any actual substance. Everything happening in the universe is like a massive play where we're the lead actors, but we don't even realize we're on stage, so we end up treating everything like a tragedy because we can't see what's happening behind the curtain... or even understand the roles we're playing.