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Will there ever be peace?

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Participants electrictinker26Matthew Anderson4steelgardener22Larry Moore83Sam Martinez9darkravenMichael Gonzalez77David Vaughn75Sarah Nguyen96John SmithThomas Nelson25Lawrence Bailey77Maria Robinson2bluenomad2Eric Vaughn442Jeffrey Fisher5Charles Lopez3rapidbear65Maria Parker77Lawrence Torres56Laura Brown7Paul Rogers94wanderingmarlin38silversurfer
Michael Gonzalez77 Michael Gonzalez77 Active Member
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#81 ·
Lawrence Torres56 said:Based on what he's saying, it sounds like we might actually be circling back to that old-school, "closer to nature" way of thinking after all, doesn't it?😁

It might sound complicated, but I think people just crave complex answers when the truth is actually quite simple. Think about it like this: imagine a human nervous system that isn't constantly bombarded by the mindless nonsense modern society shoves down our throats. We live in a world where people have lost all sense of rhythm—they don't know when to eat, when to hydrate, or when to sleep, let alone anything else. They carry around a thousand problems, but only seven of them are actually real. Instead, they drag those issues around for years, sweeping them under the rug, until they create such a personal hell that they end up burning themselves out and taking everyone around them down with them.

A stressed-out nervous system had one primary job back in the day: find food for the tribe. Beyond that, they weren't wasting energy on trivial nonsense regarding who owned what or how things functioned. When food was scarce, people migrated. Sure, more primitive groups might have raided others for supplies, but humans simply weren't weighed down by this endless stream of trivialities—and I’m talking about the era long before organized slavery took hold.

When we talk about being "closer to nature," we’re really talking about a more spontaneous, direct connection between consciousness and the spiritual energies surrounding and residing within us. Back then, a person could likely tap into their intuition much more clearly to receive guidance on how to solve life's challenges. They didn't have to worry about managing private estates or municipal government structures, but they certainly had to deal with the deep, existential realities of being alive.
rapidbear65 rapidbear65 Active Member
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#82 ·
Michael Gonzalez77 said:It feels like war and humanity are fundamentally linked. You can't have war without people, sure, but you certainly have people without war. However, if we look at higher levels of consciousness—honestly, even saying this feels harsh—we’re still stuck at an animalistic level.

The internal conflict within a person is far more significant than any external natural disaster. Based on the thousands of years of history we actually know about, that's been the case. Even mythology hints at a time when "demigods" existed, representing a peak before the "fall from Paradise" (and I'm not talking about a specific Biblical scene involving Adam and Eve here). This suggests there was once a version of humanity with a much higher level of awareness that somehow slipped away, a concept echoed in various esoteric teachings.

In early societies where food was abundant, nobody was fighting. Once the need to seize resources kicked in, war became a byproduct of social migrations. But in more recent history—looking at the dominant mindsets of different eras like slavery, feudalism, or capitalism—war itself has become distorted. The motives change, though they all essentially boil down to a "struggle for power and wealth." That struggle stems from a flawed human psyche: the accumulation of unnatural impulses and the desperate need to act them out. Today, those motives are even more warped. While the core remains economic, it’s more like a fog of consciousness where leaders play at war while creating devastating, very real consequences.

Humans aren't actually that different from animals by nature. Our only real edge is our intellect... and war doesn't always have to be massive. There's just never enough abundance in one place to go around...
rapidbear65 rapidbear65 Active Member
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#83 ·
Charles Lopez3 said:it all stems from a total lack of respect,
basically ignoring the Ten Commandments—you know, basic ethics and morality.


even if people are showing up to church every Sunday.
the American model 😁

It’s just the basic reality... we're physical beings through and through...
Charles Lopez3 Charles Lopez3 Active Member
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#84 ·
rapidbear65 said:It’s just the basic reality... we're physical beings through and through...

Look, man is fundamentally a spiritual being.
We're talking about a soul and consciousness breathed right into us.

The only exception is the uneducated ones.
Those folks are just living in total unconsciousness.☕
rapidbear65 rapidbear65 Active Member
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#85 ·
Charles Lopez3 said:Look, man is fundamentally a spiritual being.
We're talking about a soul and consciousness breathed right into us.

The only exception is the uneducated ones.
Those folks are just living in total unconsciousness.☕

made from the earth,....,....,....,! Jehovah fixes him up, and you get what you put in, a true master at work!
Lawrence Torres56 Lawrence Torres56 Active Member
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#86 ·
Charles Lopez3 said:Look, man is fundamentally a spiritual being.
We're talking about a soul and consciousness breathed right into us.

The only exception is the uneducated ones.
Those folks are just living in total unconsciousness.☕

So, if we follow that logic, being educated means you're actually conscious, right? 😁
...well, honestly, that's one of the biggest delusions of the modern age.
Laura Brown7 Laura Brown7 Member
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#87 ·
People naturally gravitate toward what they perceive as better, which is exactly why they fight so hard for the things they value most...

Unfortunately, there will always be some level of deception or manipulation lurking somewhere, though occasionally, something genuinely good can emerge from the chaos...

There is a sense of inner peace we can cultivate—something we can actually enjoy every single day—that remains entirely beyond anyone else's power to take away from us...
Laura Brown7 Laura Brown7 Member
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#88 ·
Charles Lopez3 said:Look, man is fundamentally a spiritual being.
We're talking about a soul and consciousness breathed right into us.

The only exception is the uneducated ones.
Those folks are just living in total unconsciousness.☕

that really has nothing to do with one's level of education.

the spirituality of an uneducated person can often be profound, deeply connected to nature and the world around them...

the greatest evils in this world usually stem from highly educated people who lack even a shred of empathy. they are either lost in unconsciousness, or even worse, acting with conscious, calculated malice toward others...
Maria Robinson2 Maria Robinson2 Active Member
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#89 ·
An uneducated spiritual person simply doesn't exist.

Do most people even grasp what it actually means to be spiritually educated?

I suppose the more books you churn through—all those spiritual guides and such—the less actual spiritual depth you might possess.

Of course, many will disagree with me here—not that I’m particularly surprised by that.
steelgardener22 steelgardener22 Member
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#90 ·
Maria Robinson2 said:An uneducated spiritual person simply doesn't exist.

Do most people even grasp what it actually means to be spiritually educated?

I suppose the more books you churn through—all those spiritual guides and such—the less actual spiritual depth you might possess.

Of course, many will disagree with me here—not that I’m particularly surprised by that.

you're being super cryptic here... might as well just write riddles at this point...🍿
Maria Robinson2 Maria Robinson2 Active Member
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#91 ·
Jehovah's spirit is likely a mystery to you—not to me.
steelgardener22 steelgardener22 Member
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#92 ·
Maria Robinson2 said:Jehovah's spirit is likely a mystery to you—not to me.

Look, this is a spirituality group... please go deal with your religion and Jehovah somewhere else!
Maria Robinson2 Maria Robinson2 Active Member
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#93 ·
Ridiculous—some guy claiming to be above God? I’ve seen that one a thousand times.

Spirituality wouldn't even exist if there weren't a God to begin with. But I guess you want to redefine everything?
Look, if that's how you feel, maybe go talk to someone else.
electrictinker26 electrictinker26 Active MemberOP
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#94 ·
So, will eternal peace ever truly reign on this earth? Was the world actually designed for that purpose? And more importantly, can true peace even exist without God?
steelgardener22 steelgardener22 Member
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#95 ·
Maria Robinson2 said:Ridiculous—some guy claiming to be above God? I’ve seen that one a thousand times.

Spirituality wouldn't even exist if there weren't a God to begin with. But I guess you want to redefine everything?
Look, if that's how you feel, maybe go talk to someone else.

Yeah, I said the same damn thing here and got flagged... can't even talk religion because I'm banned from those groups... otherwise, I'd set you straight...
Maria Robinson2 Maria Robinson2 Active Member
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#96 ·
Why would anyone be penalized for suggesting that spirituality—or even the pursuit of it—wouldn't exist if God didn't?
Nick, you can't exactly throw someone in jail for that, I guess.
Larry Moore83 Larry Moore83 Active Member
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#97 ·
We aren't just biological machines—we are spiritual beings, too. It’s a psychophysical reality, really.
And this parasite that tries to latch onto us? It has absolutely nothing to do with our actual spirituality.
How can I say that?
Because true spirituality belongs to the human soul alone. 🙂
Laura Brown7 Laura Brown7 Member
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#98 ·
Maria Robinson2 said:There is no such thing as an uneducated spiritual person.

But do you even understand what it means to be spiritually educated?

The more spiritual books you consume, the less you actually possess true spiritual strength...

Of course, you’ll likely disagree with me. That wouldn't be surprising at all.

Education doesn't have anything to do with spirituality or goodness—just look at Mother Teresa and Enrico Fermi, for example.

One was simple and deeply spiritual, while the other, despite his immense education, helped create the nuclear bomb.

What really matters is empathy for others, which, unfortunately, often diminishes as a person becomes more highly educated because they drift away from reality...

When has someone ever seen their neighbor's suffering through the lens of a book and actually stepped up to help?

Without genuine kindness, all that knowledge is just dead ink on a page...
David Vaughn75 David Vaughn75 Regular
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#99 ·
Larry Moore83 said:We aren't just biological machines—we are spiritual beings, too. It’s a psychophysical reality, really.
And this parasite that tries to latch onto us? It has absolutely nothing to do with our actual spirituality.
How can I say that?
Because true spirituality belongs to the human soul alone. 🙂

And honestly? The psyche is just as material as anything else; it's just operating on a much finer, more subtle level.
Maria Robinson2 Maria Robinson2 Active Member
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joined Feb 2012
#100 ·
gandalf,

why do people insist on conflating humanitarian work with spirituality?

as for education—well, truth be told, it can be a bit of a mess

how exactly are you supposed to witness someone else's suffering through a book? that would imply the person has to publish a bestseller first
just so you can realize they’re struggling and actually step in to help. 🤔🤣

I guess we're just playing philosopher here—since apparently, spiritual types are allowed to ramble...
I mean, there's no rulebook saying we can't, I suppose.
but
understandably, this kind of wisdom isn't exactly going to trigger world peace, so what can you really expect?

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