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Larry Walker24 said:And what, you're just following Bozanić's orders and living strictly by Church doctrine now?
Larry Walker24 said:Nah, according to the last census, it’s more like 86%,
but even if only 10% actually live out the Catholic faith, that’s still plenty. If you want a real test of how many Catholics there actually are, look at church taxes like they have in >. See how fast Americans would bail then.
so stop bragging about "90% of Americans"—you can think whatever you want. They might be Catholic, but they're out partying, drinking, and cheating before marriage...
Sarah Hall53 said:And besides, setting up a scheduling conflict like that right in the middle of a normal school day... I mean, for the kids who don't opt for religion, maybe someone watches them, or maybe they don't—they just end up hanging out in the hallway staring at nothing for 45 minutes, twice a week.
What a brilliant way to handle it. Truly. It definitely doesn't feel like any kind of subtle pressure being put on parents to force them into choosing religious ed... ☕
briskbison55 said:I'm just saying, it's widely believed that maybe 10% of any society is LGBTQ+, and they have their rights, so why should anyone care if 86% of believers don't have to take their kids to a different building for religious ed if it could just happen right there in school? And honestly, treating premarital sex as this huge sin feels silly—it was probably brought in much later for other reasons, mostly medical, and the church just acted as a marketing tool, I suppose.
poor kids, I guess. does everyone think kids today need someone to hold their hand just to walk to a playground or a gym or anywhere else? I don't recall anyone ever babysitting us while we were stuck in class back in the day.
Robert Rodriguez9 said:I don't remember anyone having any gaps in their elementary school schedule.
shadowcrane91 said:Look, how I choose to live is none of your damn business... think whatever you want about me...
If I told you I’m Catholic, I don't see why that warrants this kind of interrogation...
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Larry Walker24 said:but you don't get to lecture anyone else
If the US Constitution says the separation of church and state is a thing, then it's a thing. Religion stays out of public schools, period.
Robert Rodriguez9 said:I don't remember anyone having any gaps in their elementary school schedule.
Larry Walker24 said:but you don't get to lecture anyone else
If the US Constitution says the separation of church and state is a thing, then it's a thing. Religion stays out of public schools, period.
briskbison55 said:I mean, yeah, what kind of gaps? I guess the only real gaps we had were when a teacher called out sick, but even then, a sub would step in or they’d just let us go out to the playground. Honestly, all this talk about "supervising" kids like they're some kind of fragile little things... it feels totally foreign to me.
That's just being preachy, and honestly, we have clergy here too.😉
And besides, the Constitution also guarantees everyone the right to practice their own faith, which is why elective religious studies classes exist in schools—so parents who are working don't have to drive their kids somewhere else.
Matthew Young35 said:But what about the Satanists?
If the Constitution guarantees this right to everyone, why aren't they being provided with their own organized religious education programs?
The issue here is a misunderstanding of the law. The US Constitution doesn't mandate that the government organize religious practices within state institutions; it simply guarantees the freedom to practice them.
When it comes to public schools, we are talking about the state actively organizing religious instruction and the indoctrination of children.
As far as I'm concerned, people can pray however and wherever they please, but the government shouldn't be the one organizing or funding it.
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The Constitution also guarantees everyone the right to practice their faith said:
Exactly... and once again, they just bend the rules to please the majority...
If, say, 86% of the population were Muslim or Orthodox, then Islamic or Orthodox religious ed would be the thing offered in public schools...
And honestly? I'm totally fine with that...
What really cracks me up is when people who claim to be Catholic start whining and trashing their own faith...
Come on, man... just be real for once. Uncheck the box and say, "Look, I'm not Catholic, I'm something else, and having religious classes at school bugs me." Don't act like this...
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shadowcrane91 said:Look, I'm not going to get into how they decide on religious curriculum in public schools... that’s not really my lane.
Outside of a few people on this forum, I haven't heard a single soul in my neighborhood, my school, or even at the park complaining about it... and trust me, we have a massive circle of friends and acquaintances, both Catholic and non-Catholic.
As for having religion taught in schools? I've got absolutely nothing against it.
briskbison55 said:I mean, yeah, what kind of gaps? I guess the only real gaps we had were when a teacher called out sick, but even then, a sub would step in or they’d just let us go out to the playground. Honestly, all this talk about "supervising" kids like they're some kind of fragile little things... it feels totally foreign to me.
That's just being preachy, and honestly, we have clergy here too.😉
And besides, the Constitution also guarantees everyone the right to practice their own faith, which is why elective religious studies classes exist in schools—so parents who are working don't have to drive their kids somewhere else.
shadowcrane91 said:Satanists (or whatever you want to call them) aren't the majority...
They didn't hit that 86% mark, so there's no reason to bend the rules for them.
Upoce, I don't even get what you're saying...
In every country, things tend to favor the believers who make up the majority...
Like in the Middle East with Muslims,
Or in places like Greece with the Orthodox...
It’s only here in America, where 86% are Catholic, that anyone even tries to argue this point...
So, are the rights of that other 14% being violated or something?
I'm dying to know—if some other religion was dominant in the country, would they actually bother looking out for that minority?
Give me a break! When it comes to religion, nobody's supposed to say a word...
James Alvarez2 said:I didn't ask if you could personally change the school's religious ed schedule—I asked if you, as a Catholic, find it okay that first graders are left wandering hallways, classrooms, or playgrounds alone while your kid is stuck in class.
Someone made a great point: schools have all kinds of kids, not every school has a fence, some are right next to busy highways, and kids do crazy stuff...
That’s what I’m getting at—how can you, as a Catholic, not care where someone else's kid is just because yours is in religious ed? Hint: the answer isn't "I won't change the schedule," since we know you don't have that power, but the fact is things are set up the way they are.
English is an elective too. Computer science is an elective. Sports is an extracurricular. And yet, kids get driven to those.
If a kid is doing religious ed at a church, then they should be doing it at their local parish, right where they live.
This is actually a perfect example. Poor kids are being forced to be driven to things they "CHOSE." Once they start prepping for First Communion or Confirmation, poor parents have to drive them to Mass, drive them to church classes, drive them to rehearsals before the sacraments... meanwhile, the kids have soccer practice, games, model building, field trips... poor parents, just constantly rushing, poor kids, everything has so many rules and obligations once you pick something.
What you guys are stubbornly ignoring is that most people on this thread don't have a problem with religious ed being in school at all, just in a different period—just like any other elective (where kids don't need rides because they already know the way to school).
It honestly makes me ashamed to say I'm Catholic.
Not because of the people looking at the altar, but because of the people standing next to me in the pews every Sunday.
redridge13 said:I can't believe I'm even seeing this. redridge13, you really have to be kidding me right now. You’re actually sitting there, typing out this absolute nonsense like it’s some kind of profound revelation? Give me a break. It’s honestly exhausting watching people fall for this kind of stuff over and over again. I remember back when I was working that dead-end retail gig in Chicago—just a total grind, mind you—and I saw guys just like you trying to sell the same tired excuses to anyone who would listen. It’s the same song, different verse. Honestly, it's just pathetic.
Exactly.
Man, I am absolutely losing my mind over this latest mess with those absolute lunatics! Honestly, what is even happening anymore? It’s like every time you think things couldn't get any more chaotic, some group of total crazies decides to throw a wrench in the whole works just for the hell of it. I’m sitting here staring at the news, just shaking my head because it feels like we're living in a bad sitcom that won't end. Seriously, someone needs to step in and rein these people in before they burn the whole house down. It's pure madness! 🙂 🙄
Religious ed classes in our public schools are an absolute train wreck. Honestly, I don’t even know where to start, except for one thing: I am doing everything in my power to make sure my kid doesn't end up sitting through those sessions getting their brain washed. ☕
But seriously...
I'm just saying, it's all happening right here in our own backyard. I honestly don't know how people deal with the whole daycare situation. It’s a complete circus. Every time I look at the costs or try to figure out which center isn't going to be a total disaster zone, I just want to pull my hair out. It feels like you're basically paying a premium just to hand your kid over to someone else and pray they actually get a nap in. It's exhausting. So, I just heard that starting this year, they’re bringing religious education back into the public schools here in the city. Honestly? It feels like we’re circling the drain. Just when you think we've finally moved toward a more secular, logical way of running things, suddenly there's this push to bring faith-based classes back into the mix. I remember back in my day, everything felt a bit more streamlined, but now it feels like we're taking ten steps backward. It’s like watching a rerun of a bad sitcom where the plot just keeps looping back to the same outdated tropes. You'd think with everything else going on in the world, we could focus on actual science or history instead of debating theology in a classroom setting. It’s just exhausting, man. One thing after another.
Of course, it’s the one damn thing you can actually do for free without some corporate shark trying to nickel and dime you for every second.
Total garbage. Absolute bottom of the barrel.
shadowcrane91 said:Look, I don't care if my kids are on their own... they're independent enough.
They're solo at the playground or the local park too, and half the time I don't even show up until later.
Why should they be forced to sit around inside just because I need to finish making lunch?
I played outside by myself all the time growing up... my parents weren't hovering over me every second.
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Sarah Hall53 said:I’m honestly just as curious as everyone else—like, why would there even be a gap in the schedule for younger kids back before religious studies were added to the curriculum? It doesn't really make sense to me.
btw, does anyone else realize how many schools are tucked right next to busy main roads without any actual playground space? Or think about the classrooms filled with those little troublemakers... there are just so many variables at play here. Leaving a handful of kids totally unsupervised for forty-five minutes isn't exactly a genius move, is it?
I mean, seriously—how happy would you actually be if your kid ended up with a scheduling gap alongside two or three other students, especially if one of them is that specific type of bully who's always picking on people or being aggressive whenever they get the chance? Knowing they'd be left alone like that twice a week... I don't know, it just feels wrong.
redridge13 said:to quote "
Hey, there's honestly nothing I can say 👍
but I guess that’s just how it goes when they start drilling fear and mindless conformity into you from the moment you're born... ☕
