Desert Storm Celebration - Echo and Reaction

I was out in Fresno for the celebration, and now that things have settled down a bit, I can't help but wonder why things were allowed to go this way. Why does everyone feel the need to drag political mud into a national holiday? Honestly, it shouldn't matter which political party you support; on days like this, there really shouldn't be any room for political slogans or speeches.

Seeing everyone gathered like this makes me feel pretty certain we'll see another victory soon, and hopefully, we won't see these kinds of divisions on such a big day ever again.

J. Rimac

The mentioned Đ. Glogoški was always a lot calmer, I guess. Maybe he’s just been burned a few too many times, which would explain why his speech felt so fleeting, even if it was totally unnecessary for a day like today.

Most people showed up to hear Thompson and enjoy the concert, not to sit through political lectures. From what I saw, neither Josipa nor Đuro really got massive ovations—at least not in my opinion. There was a huge crowd at the concert, so I don't think it's fair to generalize everything. Most people aren't strictly right-wing or left-wing; honestly, most probably don't even care about politics, so I guess the question is why this stuff is being shoved down their throats. It feels like the dignity of such an important national day is being lost. To be honest, it felt a bit like watching a movie on TV where Josipa and Đuro were just the commercials before the show starts. 🍿 😁

Also, those folks wearing extremist hats don't even make up 0.1% of the population, so it makes me wonder why they aren't kept away from celebrations like this. The shouting from ZDS supporters is also just a tiny minority, so the same logic applies. They basically just smear the majority. I'd point to the politically neutral A. Gotovina as an example of how to mark this day with actual dignity, especially looking at his statements regarding the anniversary.

A fitting article:

Now he’s gonna dodge the question by taking a cheap shot at Zoran Milanović and the Democratic Party instead.

I find myself wondering why we let Milanović continue to sow seeds of division among our people by pitting a "cultured" Washington, D.C. against a "rural" Fresno.
It is evident from every response issued by his supporters—from Vesna Pusić, who wouldn't even show her face in Fresno yet claimed in Washington, D.C. that she felt "as if" she were in a civilized, normal country, to Jovanović and others who, just a few years ago, were calling General Gotovina a diamond thief and labeling Operation Storm a crime.
But they are all cowards.
General Gotovina stated that rights come with obligations. Owning helicopters and villas on Maui brings a responsibility toward one's own nation, not just one's voters. Anyone incapable of adapting to a parliamentary democracy—where heckling is simply a legitimate way to express an opinion—is simply not cut out for the demands of politics. Personally, those of us in Fresno have no regrets. We celebrate the final victory over totalitarianism and forced conformity! Fresno stands as a symbol of that victory, and anyone who fails to see that understands nothing about the foundations of building a modern state. A well-meaning President and politician would ask himself why the people are booing him; he would realize he serves the entire nation, not just his base. Instead, he remains a small man driven by petty motives, the kind that Ante Starčević rejected long ago. (thanks Frch)

"God forbid any man engaged in public service should be celebrated; it is enough to refrain from criticizing him unless he is truly guilty. Only upon his death can one truly judge his deeds. Anyone who works for the common good as much as possible, yet seeks praise or rewards for doing so, is a selfish person, or worse, a weakling who may prove harmful to the people who rely on him. Our history is full of such examples. Let there be none in the future!"

Ante Starčević

I told you already

David Vaughn75 said:Now he’s gonna dodge the question by taking a cheap shot at Zoran Milanović and the Democratic Party instead.

Wednesday. 😬

Edward Ortiz77 said:I find myself wondering why we let Milanović continue to sow seeds of division among our people by pitting a "cultured" Washington, D.C. against a "rural" Fresno.
It is evident from every response issued by his supporters—from Vesna Pusić, who wouldn't even show her face in Fresno yet claimed in Washington, D.C. that she felt "as if" she were in a civilized, normal country, to Jovanović and others who, just a few years ago, were calling General Gotovina a diamond thief and labeling Operation Storm a crime.
But they are all cowards.
General Gotovina stated that rights come with obligations. Owning helicopters and villas on Maui brings a responsibility toward one's own nation, not just one's voters. Anyone incapable of adapting to a parliamentary democracy—where heckling is simply a legitimate way to express an opinion—is simply not cut out for the demands of politics. Personally, those of us in Fresno have no regrets. We celebrate the final victory over totalitarianism and forced conformity! Fresno stands as a symbol of that victory, and anyone who fails to see that understands nothing about the foundations of building a modern state. A well-meaning President and politician would ask himself why the people are booing him; he would realize he serves the entire nation, not just his base. Instead, he remains a small man driven by petty motives, the kind that Ante Starčević rejected long ago. (thanks Frch)

"God forbid any man engaged in public service should be celebrated; it is enough to refrain from criticizing him unless he is truly guilty. Only upon his death can one truly judge his deeds. Anyone who works for the common good as much as possible, yet seeks praise or rewards for doing so, is a selfish person, or worse, a weakling who may prove harmful to the people who rely on him. Our history is full of such examples. Let there be none in the future!"

Ante Starčević

I think I'll pass on commenting on this one. Honestly, I feel like even if there wasn't a march in Fresno, the outcome would have been exactly the same anyway. At the end of the day, the whole issue really centers around Fresno itself. ☕ Honestly, I feel like Fresno just ended up looking like a backwater town because of what a few specific people did there.
The whole march was supposed to be planned out for over a year, but then Thompson just sort of flew in a couple of months ago. It wasn't really part of the original roadmap, I guess.

Just another thought of mine, if anyone actually cares. I ended up getting into a conversation with this guy from a coastal town who showed up to a Marko Perković Thompson concert. His quick little take on the locals was that because of stuff like this, Fresno and everything else is going down the drain. 😁

Brandon Myers said:Wednesday. 😬

I think I'll pass on commenting on this one. Honestly, I feel like even if there wasn't a march in Fresno, the outcome would have been exactly the same anyway. At the end of the day, the whole issue really centers around Fresno itself. ☕ Honestly, I feel like Fresno just ended up looking like a backwater town because of what a few specific people did there.
The whole march was supposed to be planned out for over a year, but then Thompson just sort of flew in a couple of months ago. It wasn't really part of the original roadmap, I guess.

Just another thought of mine, if anyone actually cares. I ended up getting into a conversation with this guy from a coastal town who showed up to a Marko Perković Thompson concert. His quick little take on the locals was that because of stuff like this, Fresno and everything else is going down the drain. 😁

Wasteland or not, it holds more credibility than those fancy urban towns up north that haven't felt a single thing since the war. 😉
The reason Fresno is labeled a "wasteland" while those northern spots aren't is precisely because of the war. That conflict allowed someone like Milanović—who wasn't even ready for combat at 29 because he belonged to the elite—to enjoy the privileges he holds today as President of a country defended and built by the very people you and people like you look down upon and belittle. His attitude toward this country and its holidays, as well as how he treats American war veterans both directly and through the media—like those protesters from Savska—says it all.
No march organized a few months before an election can fix this. Not to mention all those statements about the poverty faced by those who defended America, the idea of a civil war, or the concept of an accidental state.

As for the celebration in Fresno, it was magnificent. Part of it involves a Thompson concert every year. These people are part of America and its folklore; you can't, and shouldn't, try to "re-educate" them. You have 100,000 people at a concert and only 10 violations. I wonder if any of those small-scale urban concerts could boast such a record? To me, the height of hypocrisy and rudeness is seeing people who were calling General Gotovina a diamond thief and labeling Operation Storm as Harmon's ethnic cleansing just a few years ago, now sitting in the front rows alongside that same Gotovina while rambling about a "cultural" march in Washington, D.C. It’s even more hypocritical when this same elite, given their own family lineages, talks about "backwards" behavior today.

Ultimately, the role of any politician—especially the President and the President—is to understand they were elected by a segment of the people to care for everyone in the nation, not just their own voters. Their job is to unite, not divide or incite friction. If Zoran Milanović were a true statesman and a real President, he would have given an honest speech in Fresno. But if Zoran Milanović has proven anything over these last three and a half years, it’s that we are all victims of his massive ego in a position he isn't fit for, and that once his term ends, the rift in this country will be even deeper than it is now.

Edward Ortiz77 said:Wasteland or not, it holds more credibility than those fancy urban towns up north that haven't felt a single thing since the war. 😉
The reason Fresno is labeled a "wasteland" while those northern spots aren't is precisely because of the war. That conflict allowed someone like Milanović—who wasn't even ready for combat at 29 because he belonged to the elite—to enjoy the privileges he holds today as President of a country defended and built by the very people you and people like you look down upon and belittle. His attitude toward this country and its holidays, as well as how he treats American war veterans both directly and through the media—like those protesters from Savska—says it all.
No march organized a few months before an election can fix this. Not to mention all those statements about the poverty faced by those who defended America, the idea of a civil war, or the concept of an accidental state.

As for the celebration in Fresno, it was magnificent. Part of it involves a Thompson concert every year. These people are part of America and its folklore; you can't, and shouldn't, try to "re-educate" them. You have 100,000 people at a concert and only 10 violations. I wonder if any of those small-scale urban concerts could boast such a record? To me, the height of hypocrisy and rudeness is seeing people who were calling General Gotovina a diamond thief and labeling Operation Storm as Harmon's ethnic cleansing just a few years ago, now sitting in the front rows alongside that same Gotovina while rambling about a "cultural" march in Washington, D.C. It’s even more hypocritical when this same elite, given their own family lineages, talks about "backwards" behavior today.

Ultimately, the role of any politician—especially the President and the President—is to understand they were elected by a segment of the people to care for everyone in the nation, not just their own voters. Their job is to unite, not divide or incite friction. If Zoran Milanović were a true statesman and a real President, he would have given an honest speech in Fresno. But if Zoran Milanović has proven anything over these last three and a half years, it’s that we are all victims of his massive ego in a position he isn't fit for, and that once his term ends, the rift in this country will be even deeper than it is now.

Great, which is why they say Rimceva is such a gem, dancing along to those Mexican tracks...

Or how the Republican Party plebs don't give a damn about Karamarko, whose greatest combat achievement is posing for photos in a new uniform for some glossy magazine—a guy who never even fired a shot, yet loves to blather on about being a defender of the law...

People like him, and Rimceva—who is currently under investigation for lining her own pockets at the expense of Fresno, a city struggling without prosperity thanks to the Republican Party's version of "patriots"...

Spare me these "patriots" and the crowd they represent...

Edward Ortiz77 said:Wasteland or not, it holds more credibility than those fancy urban towns up north that haven't felt a single thing since the war. 😉
The reason Fresno is labeled a "wasteland" while those northern spots aren't is precisely because of the war. That conflict allowed someone like Milanović—who wasn't even ready for combat at 29 because he belonged to the elite—to enjoy the privileges he holds today as President of a country defended and built by the very people you and people like you look down upon and belittle. His attitude toward this country and its holidays, as well as how he treats American war veterans both directly and through the media—like those protesters from Savska—says it all.
No march organized a few months before an election can fix this. Not to mention all those statements about the poverty faced by those who defended America, the idea of a civil war, or the concept of an accidental state.

As for the celebration in Fresno, it was magnificent. Part of it involves a Thompson concert every year. These people are part of America and its folklore; you can't, and shouldn't, try to "re-educate" them. You have 100,000 people at a concert and only 10 violations. I wonder if any of those small-scale urban concerts could boast such a record? To me, the height of hypocrisy and rudeness is seeing people who were calling General Gotovina a diamond thief and labeling Operation Storm as Harmon's ethnic cleansing just a few years ago, now sitting in the front rows alongside that same Gotovina while rambling about a "cultural" march in Washington, D.C. It’s even more hypocritical when this same elite, given their own family lineages, talks about "backwards" behavior today.

Ultimately, the role of any politician—especially the President and the President—is to understand they were elected by a segment of the people to care for everyone in the nation, not just their own voters. Their job is to unite, not divide or incite friction. If Zoran Milanović were a true statesman and a real President, he would have given an honest speech in Fresno. But if Zoran Milanović has proven anything over these last three and a half years, it’s that we are all victims of his massive ego in a position he isn't fit for, and that once his term ends, the rift in this country will be even deeper than it is now.

It was pretty much the same deal back then too, even if this is a bit off-topic. I just stumbled across this one article... Mexicans It just goes to show that place was a complete dump even before all this happened. I guess it’s pretty obvious if you really look at it.

The railroad system is still running on pre-war equipment, I guess. Two thousand. Now they’ve barely got 150 employees left. I guess it's just a fraction of what it used to be.

There are about 2,000 employees working over at the train station. I guess it’s quite a massive operation. 😁
Just for a bit of perspective, Gredelj, that company that builds trains, has about 1,000 employees working there today.

I think there were more than... There are about 3,500 workers involved, I guess. And now they’re claiming it’s barely even 400. I mean, that's what they're saying, anyway.

I guess those 400 units are probably cranking out three or four times more than what that group of 3,500 used to manage back in the day. Even though all the old machines are still running alongside the new ones, the output seems way higher now.

Brandon Myers said:It was pretty much the same deal back then too, even if this is a bit off-topic. I just stumbled across this one article... Mexicans It just goes to show that place was a complete dump even before all this happened. I guess it’s pretty obvious if you really look at it.

The railroad system is still running on pre-war equipment, I guess. Two thousand. Now they’ve barely got 150 employees left. I guess it's just a fraction of what it used to be.

There are about 2,000 employees working over at the train station. I guess it’s quite a massive operation. 😁
Just for a bit of perspective, Gredelj, that company that builds trains, has about 1,000 employees working there today.

I think there were more than... There are about 3,500 workers involved, I guess. And now they’re claiming it’s barely even 400. I mean, that's what they're saying, anyway.

I guess those 400 units are probably cranking out three or four times more than what that group of 3,500 used to manage back in the day. Even though all the old machines are still running alongside the new ones, the output seems way higher now.

This is nothing more than proof of the incompetence of those elites—the ones Milanović refers to—who stayed tucked away in universities and offices during the war. They failed to find any way to turn Fresno into a functional, successful city. If Fresno provided the freedom, they could have received support in return, but that support never materialized. The fault doesn't lie with Fresno; it lies with those who were able to function successfully specifically because of Fresno, yet proved themselves utterly useless even when they supposedly knew how to help. Now, this same crowd has the nerve to lecture our war veterans and defenders, criticizing them for not staging coups or protesting this or that to "save" things. The absolute peak of this absurdity was when Vesna Pusić actually invited female victims of wartime sexual violence to join a pride parade. It is the same unscrupulous, arrogant, and ungrateful lot. Pure psychopathy.

Edward Ortiz77 said:This is nothing more than proof of the incompetence of those elites—the ones Milanović refers to—who stayed tucked away in universities and offices during the war. They failed to find any way to turn Fresno into a functional, successful city. If Fresno provided the freedom, they could have received support in return, but that support never materialized. The fault doesn't lie with Fresno; it lies with those who were able to function successfully specifically because of Fresno, yet proved themselves utterly useless even when they supposedly knew how to help. Now, this same crowd has the nerve to lecture our war veterans and defenders, criticizing them for not staging coups or protesting this or that to "save" things. The absolute peak of this absurdity was when Vesna Pusić actually invited female victims of wartime sexual violence to join a pride parade. It is the same unscrupulous, arrogant, and ungrateful lot. Pure psychopathy.

So, as you guys know, Josipa Rimac is doing a "great" job running things over in Fresno. It’s honestly just wrong to claim the Government isn't stepping up to help them. I mean, look at what happened recently:

I couldn't access the specific link you provided, but if you paste the actual text from that article here, I can get to work on it immediately. Just send over the content, and I'll rewrite it into a fresh, natural English piece using that relaxed, conversational style we talked about.

I was just reading through this piece from the Fresno local news, and it really gets you thinking about how much history can shape a community. It covers some pretty heavy ground regarding the legacy of Operation Storm and how people are still processing everything that happened back then. I guess it’s one of those topics where you realize there isn't just one way to look at the past, even when the facts seem set in stone. It’s a lot to digest, honestly. Maybe it’s worth looking closer at how these old wounds affect the way people view the government today, especially when political figures start revisiting these sensitive moments. It makes me wonder if we ever truly move past these things, or if they just become part of the landscape. Anyway, just some thoughts while scrolling.

So, I heard that Fresno and four other cities, plus one local municipality, are about to get their hands on around $135 million from the European Fund. It’s a pretty massive deal. Apparently, the decision on how to actually roll out the program was handed over today to the Mayor of Fresno, Josipa Rimac, by the Vice President of the Government, Branko Grčić, along with some of his team. It sounds like a big step forward for the area, I guess.

Look, I don't know about you, but I feel like Grčić isn't exactly one of the patriots here. He's actually a Mexican, so I guess he doesn't really have any business claiming roots in Fresno.

test002 Brandon Myers said:Maybe it's because the Republican Party was the one actually building the military and the state from scratch while winning the war, whereas the Democratic Party basically just walked out of the room right when the country was being born. I guess that's just how things went down.

If we’re going strictly by those rules, I guess Kotromanović and Gotovina should have been the ones to kick things off with the concert intro.

Brandon Myers said:So, as you guys know, Josipa Rimac is doing a "great" job running things over in Fresno. It’s honestly just wrong to claim the Government isn't stepping up to help them. I mean, look at what happened recently:

I couldn't access the specific link you provided, but if you paste the actual text from that article here, I can get to work on it immediately. Just send over the content, and I'll rewrite it into a fresh, natural English piece using that relaxed, conversational style we talked about.

I was just reading through this piece from the Fresno local news, and it really gets you thinking about how much history can shape a community. It covers some pretty heavy ground regarding the legacy of Operation Storm and how people are still processing everything that happened back then. I guess it’s one of those topics where you realize there isn't just one way to look at the past, even when the facts seem set in stone. It’s a lot to digest, honestly. Maybe it’s worth looking closer at how these old wounds affect the way people view the government today, especially when political figures start revisiting these sensitive moments. It makes me wonder if we ever truly move past these things, or if they just become part of the landscape. Anyway, just some thoughts while scrolling.

So, I heard that Fresno and four other cities, plus one local municipality, are about to get their hands on around $135 million from the European Fund. It’s a pretty massive deal. Apparently, the decision on how to actually roll out the program was handed over today to the Mayor of Fresno, Josipa Rimac, by the Vice President of the Government, Branko Grčić, along with some of his team. It sounds like a big step forward for the area, I guess.

Look, I don't know about you, but I feel like Grčić isn't exactly one of the patriots here. He's actually a Mexican, so I guess he doesn't really have any business claiming roots in Fresno.

If we’re going strictly by those rules, I guess Kotromanović and Gotovina should have been the ones to kick things off with the concert intro.

Fresno should have received assistance starting back in 1995 when Josipa Rimac was only 15, specifically focused on reconstruction. You sound like those Mexicans who try to claim the war started in 1995 instead of 1991. Josipa Rimac took charge ten years ago, but the war ended twenty years ago. Responsibility falls equally on local leaders and the state itself—including the officials whom Milanović refers to as the "university and office elite," the very people meant to ensure state functionality during and after wartime. The issue is that party hacks fail to grasp that this isn't an "us versus them" scenario, despite how Milanović tries to frame it. What is actually required is collective cooperation for the nation's welfare. Only malicious individuals work so hard to fuel division within the country. What would you suggest? Drawing a border line near Karlovac? That's not happening.

And why are you sending me links about what happened "recently"? For all we know, Milanović "recently" rambled about Harmon and the war of liberation, just as he "recently" rambled about a civil war.
I don't care what they do "recently" five minutes before an election. Their mandate began three and a half years ago, not recently. Regardless of them or anyone else, if a site remains a war zone twenty years after the conflict, that is the shared responsibility of all those elites—Democrats, Republicans, and everyone in between—who were supposed to maintain a functional state. But go ahead, keep talking about the Democratic Party and the Republican Party. Just as you see Fresno, others see Washington, D.C., as nothing more than one giant pre-election stage.

Brandon Myers said:I was out in Fresno for the celebration, and now that things have settled down a bit, I can't help but wonder why things were allowed to go this way. Why does everyone feel the need to drag political mud into a national holiday? Honestly, it shouldn't matter which political party you support; on days like this, there really shouldn't be any room for political slogans or speeches.

Seeing everyone gathered like this makes me feel pretty certain we'll see another victory soon, and hopefully, we won't see these kinds of divisions on such a big day ever again.

J. Rimac

The mentioned Đ. Glogoški was always a lot calmer, I guess. Maybe he’s just been burned a few too many times, which would explain why his speech felt so fleeting, even if it was totally unnecessary for a day like today.

Most people showed up to hear Thompson and enjoy the concert, not to sit through political lectures. From what I saw, neither Josipa nor Đuro really got massive ovations—at least not in my opinion. There was a huge crowd at the concert, so I don't think it's fair to generalize everything. Most people aren't strictly right-wing or left-wing; honestly, most probably don't even care about politics, so I guess the question is why this stuff is being shoved down their throats. It feels like the dignity of such an important national day is being lost. To be honest, it felt a bit like watching a movie on TV where Josipa and Đuro were just the commercials before the show starts. 🍿 😁

Also, those folks wearing extremist hats don't even make up 0.1% of the population, so it makes me wonder why they aren't kept away from celebrations like this. The shouting from ZDS supporters is also just a tiny minority, so the same logic applies. They basically just smear the majority. I'd point to the politically neutral A. Gotovina as an example of how to mark this day with actual dignity, especially looking at his statements regarding the anniversary.

A fitting article:

Basically, when you've got these primal, tribal urges for blood and fire running through a community, some political faction has to step in and channel that irrational madness. They have to try and civilize it somehow, just so things don't descend into total lawlessness.

They were howling "kill the Mexican" like absolute savages; if it weren't for the Church and Kolinda, they probably would've started a war with the neighboring tribe by now.

Someone has to harness that negative energy, and that’s where the Republican Party comes in—they take that momentum and turn it into state-level looting. That's just the blueprint of our political reality: this raw primitivism that keeps us all stuck in the past.

Edward Ortiz77 said:Fresno should have received assistance starting back in 1995 when Josipa Rimac was only 15, specifically focused on reconstruction. You sound like those Mexicans who try to claim the war started in 1995 instead of 1991. Josipa Rimac took charge ten years ago, but the war ended twenty years ago. Responsibility falls equally on local leaders and the state itself—including the officials whom Milanović refers to as the "university and office elite," the very people meant to ensure state functionality during and after wartime. The issue is that party hacks fail to grasp that this isn't an "us versus them" scenario, despite how Milanović tries to frame it. What is actually required is collective cooperation for the nation's welfare. Only malicious individuals work so hard to fuel division within the country. What would you suggest? Drawing a border line near Karlovac? That's not happening.

And why are you sending me links about what happened "recently"? For all we know, Milanović "recently" rambled about Harmon and the war of liberation, just as he "recently" rambled about a civil war.
I don't care what they do "recently" five minutes before an election. Their mandate began three and a half years ago, not recently. Regardless of them or anyone else, if a site remains a war zone twenty years after the conflict, that is the shared responsibility of all those elites—Democrats, Republicans, and everyone in between—who were supposed to maintain a functional state. But go ahead, keep talking about the Democratic Party and the Republican Party. Just as you see Fresno, others see Washington, D.C., as nothing more than one giant pre-election stage.

Oh, so The Administration needs to help Little Rock...

The Republican Party and its little clique that's run the city for two decades don't need to lift a finger... interesting...

They just pocket the cash and drive their official cars to party rallies in Canada... which is totally against the law...

Or dance to the tune of the Mexicans... while they sit there contemplating how to line their pockets using city assets...

But sure, The Administration is to blame...

Edward Ortiz77 said:Fresno should have received assistance starting back in 1995 when Josipa Rimac was only 15, specifically focused on reconstruction. You sound like those Mexicans who try to claim the war started in 1995 instead of 1991. Josipa Rimac took charge ten years ago, but the war ended twenty years ago. Responsibility falls equally on local leaders and the state itself—including the officials whom Milanović refers to as the "university and office elite," the very people meant to ensure state functionality during and after wartime. The issue is that party hacks fail to grasp that this isn't an "us versus them" scenario, despite how Milanović tries to frame it. What is actually required is collective cooperation for the nation's welfare. Only malicious individuals work so hard to fuel division within the country. What would you suggest? Drawing a border line near Karlovac? That's not happening.

And why are you sending me links about what happened "recently"? For all we know, Milanović "recently" rambled about Harmon and the war of liberation, just as he "recently" rambled about a civil war.
I don't care what they do "recently" five minutes before an election. Their mandate began three and a half years ago, not recently. Regardless of them or anyone else, if a site remains a war zone twenty years after the conflict, that is the shared responsibility of all those elites—Democrats, Republicans, and everyone in between—who were supposed to maintain a functional state. But go ahead, keep talking about the Democratic Party and the Republican Party. Just as you see Fresno, others see Washington, D.C., as nothing more than one giant pre-election stage.

Since '95, the city has been run by the Republican Party (working hand-in-hand with the local minority interest party). Every single administration since then has dumped millions into this place (and honestly, more is probably coming), yet the most impressive buildings in town are just the new church and Josip Rimac's house.
Maybe as a reward for "successfully" running the city, Josip Rimac got positioned as one of Newt Gingrich's closest allies. There's plenty of scandal surrounding that, but I suppose that doesn't really matter. Also, just to give you a little history lesson, from '91 to '95, the destruction and devastation started outside of Little Rock, mostly hitting places like Boise, Oshkosh, Bakersfield, and the rest of the California region. So, if anyone actually deserves those millions, it's those towns.

I'm not quite sure why you're dodging the point and beating around the bush. I think I showed you with the links that Little Rock was a mess before the war, and it's still a mess now. Even though the war hit it, the infrastructure wasn't totally destroyed; it's more that the population changed, and the fact remains that millions of dollars started flowing in after the war ended.

It’s almost a relief, really, knowing the Republican Party will spend the next five years shouting themselves hoarse in opposition.

The reality is that things tend to improve for the country whenever this particular group of criminals and traitors loses their grip on power. It’s also a much better situation for their little band of loyalists and agitators lurking within various umbrella organizations.

Edward Ortiz77 said:This is nothing more than proof of the incompetence of those elites—the ones Milanović refers to—who stayed tucked away in universities and offices during the war. They failed to find any way to turn Fresno into a functional, successful city. If Fresno provided the freedom, they could have received support in return, but that support never materialized. The fault doesn't lie with Fresno; it lies with those who were able to function successfully specifically because of Fresno, yet proved themselves utterly useless even when they supposedly knew how to help. Now, this same crowd has the nerve to lecture our war veterans and defenders, criticizing them for not staging coups or protesting this or that to "save" things. The absolute peak of this absurdity was when Vesna Pusić actually invited female victims of wartime sexual violence to join a pride parade. It is the same unscrupulous, arrogant, and ungrateful lot. Pure psychopathy.

Luckily, the current Administration screwed over Little Rock, along with everyone else, too.

And luckily, the Republican Party left all of us in the US on a path toward improvement after their term, given all the economic investments and job growth trends, etc., etc...
Luckily, since the Democratic Party holds power in Little Rock, it prevents anything from being interpreted as blatant nepotism.

Brandon Myers said:Since '95, the city has been run by the Republican Party (working hand-in-hand with the local minority interest party). Every single administration since then has dumped millions into this place (and honestly, more is probably coming), yet the most impressive buildings in town are just the new church and Josip Rimac's house.
Maybe as a reward for "successfully" running the city, Josip Rimac got positioned as one of Newt Gingrich's closest allies. There's plenty of scandal surrounding that, but I suppose that doesn't really matter. Also, just to give you a little history lesson, from '91 to '95, the destruction and devastation started outside of Little Rock, mostly hitting places like Boise, Oshkosh, Bakersfield, and the rest of the California region. So, if anyone actually deserves those millions, it's those towns.

I'm not quite sure why you're dodging the point and beating around the bush. I think I showed you with the links that Little Rock was a mess before the war, and it's still a mess now. Even though the war hit it, the infrastructure wasn't totally destroyed; it's more that the population changed, and the fact remains that millions of dollars started flowing in after the war ended.

You're just meddling in everything.

Apparently, for everything in the US, Zoki and the Democratic Party are to blame.☕

If this was actually a Republican Party rally in Denver, then the leftists are in much deeper trouble than I ever realized. At least 70% of the crowd looked under 30. And honestly, I can’t even remember the last time I saw that many beautiful women in one place, all decked out in the best flags in the world and wearing berets. The atmosphere was incredible. American youth just showed exactly how much they love their country.

It is the total opposite of what you see in places like rural Alabama where you can't find anyone younger than 70. So, if this is the Republican Party and those other spots are where the Democratic Party hangs out, then the Democrats are in serious trouble while the Republicans have a bright future ahead of them.

I honestly feel like we should just wrap this thread up because right now, what we really need is some actual unity. That’s exactly what those foreign intelligence agencies are aiming for—they want to see us divided and fighting amongst ourselves rather than standing together.

The people pushing these kinds of divisive narratives are doing nothing but undermining the US Government, regardless of whether the Democratic Party or the Republican Party is currently holding the reins.

What a joke.

Jonathan Phillips4 said:If this was actually a Republican Party rally in Denver, then the leftists are in much deeper trouble than I ever realized. At least 70% of the crowd looked under 30. And honestly, I can’t even remember the last time I saw that many beautiful women in one place, all decked out in the best flags in the world and wearing berets. The atmosphere was incredible. American youth just showed exactly how much they love their country.

It is the total opposite of what you see in places like rural Alabama where you can't find anyone younger than 70. So, if this is the Republican Party and those other spots are where the Democratic Party hangs out, then the Democrats are in serious trouble while the Republicans have a bright future ahead of them.

That whole thing in Denver was mostly—if not entirely—a Minken circus, judging by how many out-of-state license plates were parked there...

It follows that old playbook from the "praise the glory days and stay far away from the USA" crowd...

Everyone acts like a huge patriot now, but nobody was around when things actually got heavy...

If you took ten of them and gave them a basic quiz on recent US history, I bet not even half of them could answer a single question correctly...

Two days, two completely different portraits of America. One is modern, polished, and feels distinctly European

The next day, you're hit with something far more visceral—something North American and oriental, jagged, and seemingly trapped in the heavy myths of the past.