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Extended stays - what are your experiences?

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Susan James Susan James Veteran
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#61 ·
Kate Morgan14 said:Personally, I love that they don't have to lug their backpacks home if they’re staying for after-school care... everything gets done there—homework included—so there's zero point in hauling that bag back and forth. If she needs extra practice in the evening, it's just reading a book or some worksheets I print out from the web. Then, over the weekend, I just check her backpack, books, and notebooks to stay on top of what she's learning and how she's progressing.

I think you're conflating two different groups here—kids in after-school programs versus those who aren't. In our program, all the work is handled on-site. Once next year rolls around and she isn't enrolled in the program anymore, she'll be bringing her bag home and doing homework independently—though, of course, I'll be right there to supervise and help whenever necessary.

In that case, absolutely!
I think that sounds great 👍

Call me NASA, because I honestly don't feel the need to stay informed about every single little thing being taught in class.
Simply put, my brain doesn't have the bandwidth for all that data.
I'm a bit older now, work too much, and there are other things on my mind.

Whatever my kid tells me (if she feels like sharing), I'm totally fine with that.
Even back in preschool, she'd tell me about her day, show me something, or I'd catch a glimpse of something on the parent portal or an individual progress report. As long as I can see my child is making progress, that's what matters most to me.
And plenty of stuff goes completely unnoticed by me anyway.
That's basically how I approach school, too.

Yep, call me irresponsible.
I know, I know—comparing elementary school to preschool is a bit of a stretch.

(On a side note, my boss still micromanages everything my kids do, from starting school all the way through college 🥳 even though she's a liberal arts major and he's more of a STEM guy 🙂)
northerntiger9 northerntiger9 Active Member
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#62 ·
I’m hanging around here because we’re looking at extended school days in a few years... and that last post—along with my boss's reaction—reminded me of an encounter back in college. The department secretary was totally baffled, putting her phone down in confusion because some woman kept calling incessantly, demanding to know when "parental leave" would start. Or at least asking for "information for parents." It’s not like that’s even a thing 😬
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Oh man, I can already see myself becoming that person 😢. And I really don't want to. I need to find a way to rein in the control freak living inside me. But honestly, hearing the talk going around gives me the chills—total panic mode. First grade, after-school programs, plus another 45 minutes of homework every single day, followed by endless work all weekend just to scrape together enough points to fix bad grades 😲. Hello? It's FIRST GRADE!! It should be about playing, enjoying life, and spending free time with parents at the local park eating ice cream. Or building mud forts and picking noses.

I’ve got maybe two more years of living in this pink cloud before reality hits. And who knows, maybe they'll actually pass that education reform they keep talking about by then 😬
urbantinker8 urbantinker8 Regular
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#63 ·
Susan James said:In that case, absolutely!
I think that sounds great 👍

Call me NASA, because I honestly don't feel the need to stay informed about every single little thing being taught in class.
Simply put, my brain doesn't have the bandwidth for all that data.
I'm a bit older now, work too much, and there are other things on my mind.

Whatever my kid tells me (if she feels like sharing), I'm totally fine with that.
Even back in preschool, she'd tell me about her day, show me something, or I'd catch a glimpse of something on the parent portal or an individual progress report. As long as I can see my child is making progress, that's what matters most to me.
And plenty of stuff goes completely unnoticed by me anyway.
That's basically how I approach school, too.

Yep, call me irresponsible.
I know, I know—comparing elementary school to preschool is a bit of a stretch.

(On a side note, my boss still micromanages everything my kids do, from starting school all the way through college 🥳 even though she's a liberal arts major and he's more of a STEM guy 🙂)

I won't be calling you NASA 😁 but, while I get that parents might not feel a need to dive deep into, say, elementary science or social studies, when it comes to a first grader, you just have to show some interest, whether you actually want to or not.

I mean, what kind of message are you sending if the kid sees that you couldn't care less about their shoes, let alone the curriculum, or whether they actually understood the lesson or even what they did at school that day?🤷

Since you already drew a comparison between school and preschool... it's the exact same thing when it comes to showing "interest."
I've always felt that uninterested or unhappy parents—the ones who view preschool as nothing more than a necessary evil or just a place to "drop off" kids without seeing any actual value in it—tend to raise uninterested and unhappy children who end up crying every single morning before heading to school.
And maybe even longer than that.😳
Karen Richardson3 Karen Richardson3 Active Member
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#64 ·
urbantinker8 said:I won't be calling you NASA 😁 but, while I get that parents might not feel a need to dive deep into, say, elementary science or social studies, when it comes to a first grader, you just have to show some interest, whether you actually want to or not.

I mean, what kind of message are you sending if the kid sees that you couldn't care less about their shoes, let alone the curriculum, or whether they actually understood the lesson or even what they did at school that day?🤷

Since you already drew a comparison between school and preschool... it's the exact same thing when it comes to showing "interest."
I've always felt that uninterested or unhappy parents—the ones who view preschool as nothing more than a necessary evil or just a place to "drop off" kids without seeing any actual value in it—tend to raise uninterested and unhappy children who end up crying every single morning before heading to school.
And maybe even longer than that.😳

I know I’m totally out of my depth here, like a deer in headlights, 😁 but I think her point was just that it’s perfectly fine for a kid to tell you what’s on their mind or ask whatever questions they have, plus you still show up to those PTA meetings to stay in the loop, rather than feeling like you need to obsess over every single tiny lesson just to keep up with the whole curriculum.

It’s just like back in daycare; if the kid tells you about something that really stressed them out or something they thought was super cool, that’s enough, right? You shouldn't feel pressured to know every single minute detail of what they did all day.
Karen Richardson3 Karen Richardson3 Active Member
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#65 ·
northerntiger9 said:I’m hanging around here because we’re looking at extended school days in a few years... and that last post—along with my boss's reaction—reminded me of an encounter back in college. The department secretary was totally baffled, putting her phone down in confusion because some woman kept calling incessantly, demanding to know when "parental leave" would start. Or at least asking for "information for parents." It’s not like that’s even a thing 😬
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Oh man, I can already see myself becoming that person 😢. And I really don't want to. I need to find a way to rein in the control freak living inside me. But honestly, hearing the talk going around gives me the chills—total panic mode. First grade, after-school programs, plus another 45 minutes of homework every single day, followed by endless work all weekend just to scrape together enough points to fix bad grades 😲. Hello? It's FIRST GRADE!! It should be about playing, enjoying life, and spending free time with parents at the local park eating ice cream. Or building mud forts and picking noses.

I’ve got maybe two more years of living in this pink cloud before reality hits. And who knows, maybe they'll actually pass that education reform they keep talking about by then 😬

Either parents are totally overreacting—probably just so they have some excuse ready to go down the road—or we're looking at a kid with special needs.

I live right below this girl who's in sixth grade; she’s pretty much an average student, never had any bad grades, was an honor roll kid, and will likely be a straight-A student for now, but then once she hits seventh grade, she’s going to hit a wall with science and math (which happens to everyone who struggles with abstract thinking), and then she’ll end up heading off to a vocational school.

So yeah, it’s basically the same old story.
rowdypanther12 rowdypanther12 Regular
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#66 ·
I honestly have no clue. I’ve been just as wrong as I’ve been right when it comes to predicting the future, so I’m not going to make any public bets 😂
I just know what I want: for my little girl to handle her own homework. If she gets stuck, I want her to look it up in a textbook, search on Google, or wherever else—and if she still doesn't get it after searching, then she can ask us for help so we can explain it. Then, she should be the one to actually finish the work herself.
My goal is for her to reach a point where I don't have to nag, push, or repeat myself constantly.
Am I being unrealistic in thinking she’ll eventually be able to manage her responsibilities independently? We’ll just have to see how things play out in a few years. 😁
urbantinker8 urbantinker8 Regular
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#67 ·
Karen Richardson3 said:I know I’m totally out of my depth here, like a deer in headlights, 😁 but I think her point was just that it’s perfectly fine for a kid to tell you what’s on their mind or ask whatever questions they have, plus you still show up to those PTA meetings to stay in the loop, rather than feeling like you need to obsess over every single tiny lesson just to keep up with the whole curriculum.

It’s just like back in daycare; if the kid tells you about something that really stressed them out or something they thought was super cool, that’s enough, right? You shouldn't feel pressured to know every single minute detail of what they did all day.

Did I actually say somewhere that you need to know every single second of what they're doing?🤷
As far as I can recall, I didn't even suggest you had to go through every individual lesson, heaven forbid.

This is more about having a general attitude toward school or daycare.

If a child sees that you aren't interested in what they're learning at all, and you have zero desire to help them with their homework—and let's be honest, there are plenty of parents out there who couldn't care less, especially on weekends when the textbooks are basically just cluttering up the house—and if you treat school like it's some sort of necessary evil, then obviously they aren't going to be interested either.
That's where all the negativity toward school starts, I guess.
In first grade, it might not seem like a huge deal, but looking at things long-term... it probably is.
silentraven6 silentraven6 Regular
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#68 ·
urbantinker8 said:Did I actually say somewhere that you need to know every single second of what they're doing?🤷
As far as I can recall, I didn't even suggest you had to go through every individual lesson, heaven forbid.

This is more about having a general attitude toward school or daycare.

If a child sees that you aren't interested in what they're learning at all, and you have zero desire to help them with their homework—and let's be honest, there are plenty of parents out there who couldn't care less, especially on weekends when the textbooks are basically just cluttering up the house—and if you treat school like it's some sort of necessary evil, then obviously they aren't going to be interested either.
That's where all the negativity toward school starts, I guess.
In first grade, it might not seem like a huge deal, but looking at things long-term... it probably is.

Look, I’m pretty wealthy, so I make it a point to really talk to my kid about everything he's up to. Whether I'm just catching up with him or sitting there at his soccer practice, I always find a way to pull him aside and ask how his day actually went.

It’s not like nobody’s going to care. Let’s be honest, we’re all just a bunch of curious women hanging out here, aren't we? That's exactly what this forum is for—for curious women. ☕

Look, my advice? Just try to handle it on your own first. Figure out what you can, do what you know how to do. And hey, if you need to have a good cry? Go for it. Seriously. There’s nothing wrong with that. I always say, crying actually helps you grow—plus, it’s a great way to stay hydrated. 😁 Of course I’m going to be there for you if you ask. I'll listen to whatever is on your mind, hear how your day went, and really dive into how school was treating you.

Control and correct? Yeah, absolutely not. No fucking way.
urbantinker8 urbantinker8 Regular
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#69 ·
I was really just zeroing in on what silentraven6 mentioned—that she’s more interested in other things and basically views school as just this necessary evil you have to get through.

I know we all tend to ask, "So, how was school today?" but I feel like a lot of people just ask out of pure habit, and they’re actually relieved when a kid just says, "It was fine," because then the conversation is over.
To me, that doesn't really count as an actual "conversation about school."🤷

I’m not trying to single anyone out here, because I don't want anyone jumping down my throat or taking this personally.😁
I’m just speaking in general terms, I guess.
Michelle Nelson4 Michelle Nelson4 Regular
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#70 ·
I honestly believe that an hour over the weekend is more than enough time for any busy adult to glance through a child's schoolwork from the past week. You can easily spot any major mistakes in their notebook, and if you just ask a few well-placed questions to have them "explain" the lesson back to you, you'll quickly realize how much they actually grasp.
I mean, what am I supposed to do with an hour every single day? Sit there and lecture them on how to write the letter A or which seasons come after winter? No way, that's just not happening.
Besides, my plan is to skim through the entire year's textbook in about thirty minutes at the start of the term—and that's for five different subjects. Even then, I should be able to get a decent handle on what needs to be mastered within the curriculum.
That’s pretty much my take on the whole elementary school experience and the actual "depth" of knowledge being taught there...
urbantinker8 urbantinker8 Regular
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#71 ·
Michelle Nelson4 said:I honestly believe that an hour over the weekend is more than enough time for any busy adult to glance through a child's schoolwork from the past week. You can easily spot any major mistakes in their notebook, and if you just ask a few well-placed questions to have them "explain" the lesson back to you, you'll quickly realize how much they actually grasp.
I mean, what am I supposed to do with an hour every single day? Sit there and lecture them on how to write the letter A or which seasons come after winter? No way, that's just not happening.
Besides, my plan is to skim through the entire year's textbook in about thirty minutes at the start of the term—and that's for five different subjects. Even then, I should be able to get a decent handle on what needs to be mastered within the curriculum.
That’s pretty much my take on the whole elementary school experience and the actual "depth" of knowledge being taught there...

Honestly, why does everyone feel the need to exaggerate things like this?🙄

No, I’m not suggesting we should all sit around for an hour a day talking about the alphabet, but then again, I also don't think having maybe an hour of conversation about school once a week—you know, during those precious weekends—is quite enough, either.

And it’s just funny to me how everyone seems to be an absolute expert on every single subject taught in elementary school.
Maybe we should just hold a national referendum to abolish the whole thing, since clearly, it's just not needed at all.🙂 🙏
Kate Morgan14 Kate Morgan14 Member
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#72 ·
But everyone here seems to operate under this naive assumption that their kid is going to breeze through first grade without a single hiccup—that they’ll just magically be mature enough and capable enough for everything thrown at them...

But what if that isn't the case? What happens when the teacher pulls you aside during a parent-teacher conference to warn you that your child is struggling? That they need way more work at home because they can't grasp reading or writing, or they're making constant mistakes? (And I'm not just talking about my own kid—there are plenty of students who aren't hitting those "average" benchmarks right from the start of elementary school.) Basically, there are a lot of kids who aren't developmentally ready to be fully independent from day one, and they need a long adjustment period—but the teacher can't provide that intensive one-on-one support because the class size is just too large.

At the end of the day, there is a massive gap between what parents expect and what a child is actually capable of doing...

During the initial parent-teacher meeting, my daughter's teacher told me she was having trouble with reading and writing—which caught me completely off guard since I hadn't even thought to check her progress on that. She even started tossing around terms like dyslexia and dysgraphia—total nonsense, if you ask me. It honestly set me off, seeing them jump straight to diagnoses when the kid has barely even started school. She insisted we needed to do much more work at home because schoolwork alone wasn't cutting it. My response? There is no diagnosis; she's just a little behind her age group and needs more time to adjust and catch up. I know my child better than anyone, and I knew she'd get there eventually. And she did. But obviously, I still took
this seriously. Every single day after daycare, I spent an extra thirty minutes to an hour practicing reading and writing with her. It was exhausting for both of us, but it paid off. Now, in the second half of the year, she isn't struggling at all...
Michelle Nelson4 Michelle Nelson4 Regular
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#73 ·
urbantinker8 said:Honestly, why does everyone feel the need to exaggerate things like this?🙄

No, I’m not suggesting we should all sit around for an hour a day talking about the alphabet, but then again, I also don't think having maybe an hour of conversation about school once a week—you know, during those precious weekends—is quite enough, either.

And it’s just funny to me how everyone seems to be an absolute expert on every single subject taught in elementary school.
Maybe we should just hold a national referendum to abolish the whole thing, since clearly, it's just not needed at all.🙂 🙏

I was simply sharing my thoughts on how much time a parent should dedicate to discussing the curriculum with their child during first grade. Surely there is a distinction between talking about the actual academic material and discussing general school events that aren't strictly part of the lessons.

And yes, I do believe that by the time someone finishes elementary school, they should already have a grasp of the fundamentals—something they could perhaps brush up on with a quick glance at a textbook, as it's generally expected that they know it. Especially the stuff from the lower grades.

At no point did I imply that we should "abolish elementary school" just because I personally don't need to attend it anymore, right? Makes perfect sense... 🤦
rustyowl7 rustyowl7 Active Member
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#74 ·
Kate Morgan14 said:But everyone here seems to operate under this naive assumption that their kid is going to breeze through first grade without a single hiccup—that they’ll just magically be mature enough and capable enough for everything thrown at them...

But what if that isn't the case? What happens when the teacher pulls you aside during a parent-teacher conference to warn you that your child is struggling? That they need way more work at home because they can't grasp reading or writing, or they're making constant mistakes? (And I'm not just talking about my own kid—there are plenty of students who aren't hitting those "average" benchmarks right from the start of elementary school.) Basically, there are a lot of kids who aren't developmentally ready to be fully independent from day one, and they need a long adjustment period—but the teacher can't provide that intensive one-on-one support because the class size is just too large.

At the end of the day, there is a massive gap between what parents expect and what a child is actually capable of doing...

During the initial parent-teacher meeting, my daughter's teacher told me she was having trouble with reading and writing—which caught me completely off guard since I hadn't even thought to check her progress on that. She even started tossing around terms like dyslexia and dysgraphia—total nonsense, if you ask me. It honestly set me off, seeing them jump straight to diagnoses when the kid has barely even started school. She insisted we needed to do much more work at home because schoolwork alone wasn't cutting it. My response? There is no diagnosis; she's just a little behind her age group and needs more time to adjust and catch up. I know my child better than anyone, and I knew she'd get there eventually. And she did. But obviously, I still took
this seriously. Every single day after daycare, I spent an extra thirty minutes to an hour practicing reading and writing with her. It was exhausting for both of us, but it paid off. Now, in the second half of the year, she isn't struggling at all...


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urbantinker8 urbantinker8 Regular
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#75 ·
Michelle Nelson4 said:I was simply sharing my thoughts on how much time a parent should dedicate to discussing the curriculum with their child during first grade. Surely there is a distinction between talking about the actual academic material and discussing general school events that aren't strictly part of the lessons.

And yes, I do believe that by the time someone finishes elementary school, they should already have a grasp of the fundamentals—something they could perhaps brush up on with a quick glance at a textbook, as it's generally expected that they know it. Especially the stuff from the lower grades.

At no point did I imply that we should "abolish elementary school" just because I personally don't need to attend it anymore, right? Makes perfect sense... 🤦

I guess you just completely missed the mark on that whole football thing.😉

I suppose my main point is that a parent shouldn't really be taking a stance like, "I honestly couldn't care less about your homework; just get it done during after-school programs, have the instructors check it, and leave your backpack at school because I have much more important things to worry about."

I guess you definitely wouldn't want to do that right before the first graders arrive, maybe.

I guess it isn't really about whether a parent actually knows the material or if they're totally lost when it comes to the curriculum, I suppose. It’s probably more complicated than that.🤦
silentraven6 silentraven6 Regular
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#76 ·
Isn't it actually better to get dyslexia and dysgraphia diagnosed as early as possible so we can actually see better results?

I wouldn't just brush an observation like that aside. There's absolutely no shame in it, and I certainly hope teachers aren't such idiots that they go tossing diagnoses around like candy just because they feel like messing around :jivivaljdaubajci:

We aren't even talking about kids with special needs here; we're talking about the 80 percent of healthy kids for whom this curriculum was designed. They should be perfectly capable of mastering the material on their own—that’s literally what education is for.

urbantinker8, I don't think anyone is suggesting we act indifferent or take an "I don't give a damn" attitude. There are much better ways to help than just staring intensely at a first-grader's homework or textbooks. I'm thinking of more creative, almost out-of-the-box things—like practicing simple poems or breaking down syllables through play while you're out driving in the van. You could point out different trees, talk about spring flowers, discuss environmental conservation, or recycling. Or even just counting change while a cashier rings up your groceries. It's those kinds of things you can easily weave into everyday life.

And just ask them how their day went, or if they learned anything new...

Though... honestly, maybe we should even let those questions slide sometimes right after they get home. Just give them some downtime to decompress, let them do whatever they want, climb trees, and just be kids.
Susan James Susan James Veteran
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#77 ·
urbantinker8 said:I guess you just completely missed the mark on that whole football thing.😉

I suppose my main point is that a parent shouldn't really be taking a stance like, "I honestly couldn't care less about your homework; just get it done during after-school programs, have the instructors check it, and leave your backpack at school because I have much more important things to worry about."

I guess you definitely wouldn't want to do that right before the first graders arrive, maybe.

I guess it isn't really about whether a parent actually knows the material or if they're totally lost when it comes to the curriculum, I suppose. It’s probably more complicated than that.🤦

So, can someone actually hold an opinion on this?
Since school runs from 8 to 4 anyway, why not just knock out all that homework while you're there? That way, once you get home, we can head to the pool, hit up the park, catch a movie with some popcorn, or do whatever else makes you happy!
Is it okay to feel like there's some shared responsibility here? I honestly think it should be a joint effort between the student and the teacher to make sure homework gets finished during after-school care. That way, kids aren't lugging heavy textbooks back and forth every single day, and they can actually just relax and switch their brains off at the playground around 4:00 PM.

What kind of attitude is that? "Oh, poor little thing, you have to be at school from 8 to 4 because I just don't trust you enough to stay home alone from noon until I get back, and then once we're both home, we'll tackle the homework together." Honestly, that's a bit much.
I know an eight-hour school day feels like way too much, but it’s really important to me that we sit down together to tackle this homework. I want to make sure I'm right there to guide you through it—it's not exactly the after-school program teacher's job to manage your studies like that.
What exactly should a kid be doing for four hours in after-school care?
Even as someone who places a huge emphasis on staying active, I honestly find it hard to wrap my head around the idea of kids "structured playing" for four hours straight—especially when the city is footing the bill for it.
I completely agree. It feels totally normal to me that my kid gets some extra help with their homework from the after-school instructor. If they didn't quite grasp something during class, having someone there to walk them through it makes such a huge difference. Honestly, that’s exactly why I pay for the program—for that extra bit of support.

Setting aside all the formal psychology textbooks for a moment, I still find myself thinking about how my teachers raised us. Growing up, the rule was pretty set in stone: homework always comes before playtime. In my school, we had a specific routine—for two of the grades, we stayed in after-school care, while the others headed straight home. But regardless of where you were, the drill was the same once you sat down to work: wash your hands, eat your lunch, and then get those assignments done. It was just the way things were done!
When exactly did this become the norm? From what I can gather, the expectation is that teachers should just wait around for highly motivated parents to show up after work—somewhere between 4:30 and 6:30 PM—to sit down with their kids and tackle homework together. It’s honestly a little disheartening to see some parents treating this like it's the teacher's responsibility to manage.
My parents really expected that from me.
While I was heading over to the community center,
On my way home from class today, I was just thinking...

By the way, most of the extracurricular activities—things like classes at the Lincoln Center, sports leagues, or language programs—don't really kick off until after 5:00 PM. It’s designed that way so working parents can actually pick their kids up. But it does make you wonder about the logistics. If a kid doesn't get all their homework done during after-school care and has to finish it at home, when do they actually have time to head out to these activities? And more importantly, when do they find the space to just hang out and bond with us parents or catch up with their friends?

@miss daisy, I really appreciate you stepping up to act as my lawyer here, but what I actually need right now is a translator. 😬
If you think being a "good parent" means obsessively micromanaging every single page of a textbook, then I’m happy to say I’ve officially checked out. I’ve always believed that education should be about sparking curiosity, not just checking boxes on a standardized test. My kid's learning journey isn't about me hovering over their shoulder to make sure they've memorized every specific fact—it's about them actually enjoying the process. So, if interest in parenting is measured by how much control you exert over schoolwork, consider me proudly uninterested!
Honestly, I feel like school has become way too much about just memorizing textbooks and regurgitating facts. It feels repetitive. Plus, I really don't see the point in my kid having to work through everything three different times—first with the teacher, then again with the after-school instructor, and then finally sitting down at home with Mom and Dad to go over it all over again. It just seems like overkill.

It’s a completely different ballgame when you’re dealing with a child who has specific developmental challenges or special needs.
We’re just talking about the average kid here.
If a kid walks into a classroom where everyone else is already reading, they can catch up incredibly fast just by being around those readers—provided they have the right foundation. It really comes down to three things: having solid cognitive skills, being emotionally and socially ready for the jump, and, most importantly, having two teachers who are actually fully committed to their roles. I’ve seen this work wonders when there's support at home, too. A simple routine like spending just 15 minutes every night reading a picture book borrowed from the local library makes a world of difference. It keeps the momentum going!
What’s going to happen with his school books from home study?
Does math really have to be limited to those repetitive worksheets from the school portal? I feel like we could just play a game of Sorry! and practice addition on the fly, or even stop by a local bakery and figure out how much two croissants cost and how much change the cashier should give back from a $6.75?

Honestly, spending an hour a week checking in on school stuff is plenty. We shouldn't let our entire lives revolve around the school calendar—as long as we're still staying genuinely engaged with how our kids are doing and progressing overall.
urbantinker8 urbantinker8 Regular
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#78 ·
silentraven6 said:Isn't it actually better to get dyslexia and dysgraphia diagnosed as early as possible so we can actually see better results?

I wouldn't just brush an observation like that aside. There's absolutely no shame in it, and I certainly hope teachers aren't such idiots that they go tossing diagnoses around like candy just because they feel like messing around :jivivaljdaubajci:

We aren't even talking about kids with special needs here; we're talking about the 80 percent of healthy kids for whom this curriculum was designed. They should be perfectly capable of mastering the material on their own—that’s literally what education is for.

urbantinker8, I don't think anyone is suggesting we act indifferent or take an "I don't give a damn" attitude. There are much better ways to help than just staring intensely at a first-grader's homework or textbooks. I'm thinking of more creative, almost out-of-the-box things—like practicing simple poems or breaking down syllables through play while you're out driving in the van. You could point out different trees, talk about spring flowers, discuss environmental conservation, or recycling. Or even just counting change while a cashier rings up your groceries. It's those kinds of things you can easily weave into everyday life.

And just ask them how their day went, or if they learned anything new...

Though... honestly, maybe we should even let those questions slide sometimes right after they get home. Just give them some downtime to decompress, let them do whatever they want, climb trees, and just be kids.

I am completely on the same page as you, and I think I’ve said this a dozen times now: the idea of sitting down every single day to micromanage every single letter in a child's homework is something that never even crossed my mind.
But people here seem to love caricaturing things to the point of absurdity.☕
Your examples are perfectly reasonable.
The big question, I suppose, is how many parents actually do that on a regular basis, versus how many just sit down in front of the TV after work and don't say a word to their kids.

nosorog, you definitely need a translator, because I honestly have no clue where you read in my posts that talking about school or occasionally helping with homework somehow excludes physical activity, going to the park, or hitting the pool? Where did I ever write that a parent absolutely has to every single day write out every single assignment with their child and then double-check it all over again?🤔🤦

It's just a bit exhausting to read this from one parent, especially someone who is somehow connected to the American education system:
Susan James said:In that case, absolutely!
I think that sounds great 👍

Call me NASA, because I honestly don't feel the need to stay informed about every single little thing being taught in class.
Simply put, my brain doesn't have the bandwidth for all that data.
I'm a bit older now, work too much, and there are other things on my mind.

Whatever my kid tells me (if she feels like sharing), I'm totally fine with that.
Even back in preschool, she'd tell me about her day, show me something, or I'd catch a glimpse of something on the parent portal or an individual progress report. As long as I can see my child is making progress, that's what matters most to me.
And plenty of stuff goes completely unnoticed by me anyway.
That's basically how I approach school, too.

Yep, call me irresponsible.
I know, I know—comparing elementary school to preschool is a bit of a stretch.

(On a side note, my boss still micromanages everything my kids do, from starting school all the way through college 🥳 even though she's a liberal arts major and he's more of a STEM guy 🙂)

Not to mention the idea that school is a "necessary evil."😕

So feel free to bring in your lawyers or anyone else who agrees with you; to me, most of your stances still seem pretty unbelievable.🕺
Michelle Nelson4 Michelle Nelson4 Regular
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I honestly don't see the point in a first grader lugging their heavy school backpack home at 5:00 PM just to grind through homework or for a parent to play inspector. If nothing has been accomplished between noon and 5:00 PM, then either the teacher isn't effectively managing the classroom during the day, or the kid is simply struggling to adapt to the school environment.
Over the weekend, I’m perfectly fine glancing at their work—primarily from a "hey, show me what you guys did today, I'm curious!" perspective rather than a "let me audit everything you finished" vibe. Of course, I'll take a quick peek to make sure they aren't heading off track, but I have zero desire to step in and act like their third substitute teacher. It's a different story if they actually ask for help, though; in those cases, I’ll certainly jump in, but my goal is always to guide them toward finding the right answer on their own.

That’s my theory, anyway. We'll see how it plays out in reality.

But yeah, I'm not interested in every single granular detail of the curriculum either. I’d much rather hear about what was interesting, what was funny, or even what surprised or moved them. If the lesson was just plain boring, there’s really no need to nag them into talking about it.😁
Susan James Susan James Veteran
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I don't have any text to work with yet! Please provide the posts you'd like me to rewrite, and I'll get started on transforming them into fresh, Americanized content while keeping that cheerful, steady tone. kaže:
I can't quite make sense of that one! It looks like you might have sent a single word by mistake, or maybe it was just a typo. If you were trying to start a conversation or ask a question, feel free to drop it below—I'm all ears and happy to chat!Honestly, you definitely need a translator! I have no idea where you got the impression from my previous posts that talking about schoolwork or helping out with homework occasionally means we're cutting out physical activity, trips to the park, or heading to the local pool. I never said a parent *has* to do all of that, let alone at the expense of staying active. Every single day. Writing with my little one? Honestly, it’s such a blast! It might seem like a simple thing, but we have the best time diving into it together. Whether we're scribbling messy stories or trying to make sense of letters, it always turns into a little adventure. It really is just pure fun. Every single assignment. Should we just go ahead and give it one more thorough double-check?🤔🤦

It honestly breaks my heart to read this, especially coming from a parent—and one who’s actually involved in the education system, no less.

It’s also kind of like how people view school—as this necessary evil you just have to get through.😕

Feel free to bring in your lawyers and anyone else who agrees with you at this point. Honestly, I’m still sitting here struggling to wrap my head around most of your takes.🕺

Hey, I can totally switch over to English or even German if that makes things easier! And honestly, thanks for quoting me again—I really don't want to be kept in the loop about every single little thing they teach in school. By the way, I’m a bit confused, though... what exactly are you feeling sad about? Or is it more like being totally overwhelmed?
I mean, it's not like I'm some total control freak or anything! 😕

I didn't mean to imply that I don't want to stay in the loop regarding what’s happening at school; it’s more that I don't feel the need to follow every single detail of the curriculum. It's just one of those things where I prefer to focus on the big picture rather than getting bogged down in every minor lesson.
I see a pretty significant difference there.
For me, it really comes down to accountability. I think it's so important for kids to learn how to follow through on their responsibilities early on. It’s one of those life lessons that stays with you forever.
Honestly, I couldn’t care less whether she had six math problems or eight to tackle for homework, or how many rows she was supposed to fill in with that letter K. At the end of the day, all that matters is whether she actually got it done.
It’s really not my place to judge whether this is done properly, neatly, or if it’s top-tier work versus just being mediocre. That kind of assessment should be left to a professional, like an elementary school teacher.

I honestly struggle to see the point of paying for after-school programs when you look at the actual toll it takes on a kid. Think about it: they spend eight hours in class, only to head home and lug around a backpack that’s easily 10% of their body weight—which we all know isn't great for their posture or spinal health. Then, once they finally get through the door, the cycle starts all over again with homework and projects assigned by three different teachers. It feels like such an exhausting loop for them.
If a kid gets home around 4:00 or 5:00 PM, they really only have about three or four hours left in their day. Between hanging out, playing, grabbing dinner, and winding down for bed—assuming a 9:00 PM bedtime to make sure they’re actually rested by 7:30 AM—it all happens pretty fast. I remember when my kids were younger, those few hours always seemed to fly by in the blink of an eye!
If there's still an extra three or four hours left in the schedule, I honestly think we should use that time for something more productive—like sports practice, acting classes, or maybe some language tutoring. If people are interested and it works out, I’d much rather focus on those kinds of skills. To be honest, I don't really see the point in spending that much time sitting down with my kid to go over homework and writing assignments when we could be doing something so much more engaging.

At the end of the day, how do parents actually frame after-school programs to their kids? When you're explaining why they'll be spending those extra hours at the center, how do you pitch what they'll actually be doing there? I'm curious if parents usually focus on the specific tasks they need to tackle or if they emphasize the importance of following the instructor's lead. Also, can the kids actually ask for help when they get stuck, or is it more of a "figure it out" vibe? I’ve also wondered about the boundaries regarding schoolwork—like, does the instructor have the authority to check over homework, or can they actually mandate that the kids sit down and get it finished before they head home?

I’ve been reading some comments from parents who seem really upset that I’m holding them accountable, and honestly, it’s a bit frustrating. There seems to be this mindset where people expect all the homework to magically get finished at school, when in reality, making sure assignments are completed is a fundamental part of parenting. It is perfectly normal for a kid to bring their textbooks and notebooks home. I mean, look at it this way: if I decided to tell my child, "Hey, don't bother listening to your teacher because I know better," then suddenly I'd be the one responsible for managing everything they missed. It shouldn't fall on me to police every single thing they were supposed to learn in class. We have to work together as a team to make sure they actually succeed.
By that logic, I could basically tell my kid they have a free pass to make a complete mess during "homeschooling" hours and demand to go outside and play for four hours straight just because they're studying at home with me. It’s a slippery slope!
Are you going to call me out for having an unruly kid who interrupts everyone else's homework? Because she’s actually just sitting there doing her schoolwork at home.
I intentionally presented two extremes here, because I’m honestly confused—if a kid is staying in after-school care, why should they still have to finish their homework once they get home?
Plus, I’m struggling with what kind of message I’m actually sending my child about their after-school instructor if I tell them we’ll just do the homework together later. Doesn't that imply, "I don't really trust your teacher; I know better, and you'll learn more if you just wait for me"?

Look, regardless of how I feel about the current state of the American school system, I truly believe that if I tell my daughter she needs to get her homework done during after-school hours, I’m sending her a positive message. I'm telling her that I believe in her abilities and that her schoolwork is her own responsibility. It’s about teaching her accountability and ownership, while also teaching her to trust the professionals I leave her with after class—people who will be there to help if she hits a wall.
And of course, it’s about building good habits. I want her to learn to tackle her tasks early so she has plenty of time to just play later on.
It’s also practical for when she moves up to third or fourth grade and starts heading home around 11:45 AM. If she knocks out her work right away, she won't be stuck waiting for me to get home at 4:25 PM before she can finally go out and play.

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