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Are some people just born with a natural edge, or is it something more?

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hollowpuma762 hollowpuma762 Active Member
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#61 ·
redbear2 said:Oh, for sure. I meant to mention that I don't take it too seriously; I see it more as a general indicator of what I'm talking about.

I agree with the rest of your points. The whole point here was to clarify how ideas just "happen," rather than linking them to some magical transmitter beaming information directly into our brains.

Ideas exist on a non-physical plane as pure forms—things a receptive mind eventually picks up on and recognizes.
How exactly those ideas are "tuned in" is the real mystery.

The brain acts as a metaphysical receiver (among other things), picking up various signals broadcast from all sorts of places—from other people and the visible biosphere all the way up to higher, unseen realms.
steelmarlin19 steelmarlin19 Member
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#62 ·
hollowpuma762 said:Ideas exist on a non-physical plane as pure forms—things a receptive mind eventually picks up on and recognizes.
How exactly those ideas are "tuned in" is the real mystery.

The brain acts as a metaphysical receiver (among other things), picking up various signals broadcast from all sorts of places—from other people and the visible biosphere all the way up to higher, unseen realms.

The ideas we humans stumble upon have actually been "realized" long ago.

We can't truly discover anything new that hasn't already been uncovered before.

That's why these ideas are "given" to certain people—and we end up thinking they're somehow special, labeling them "geniuses."

It's the exact same deal with talent.

Same story! Some people become famous because of it while others don't—that's just how it goes. Cheers! ☕
rustymaker3 rustymaker3 Member
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#63 ·
Michael Gonzalez77 said:Think of the human aura as an antenna. It picks up an incredible amount of energetic waves from all corners of the cosmos. Ideas don't just pop out of thin air; instead, certain rare individuals act as true enlighteners of human consciousness. They aren't like everyone else preoccupied with their own small, private lives. Rather, they tap into spiritual energies to meet humanity's collective spiritual needs, building the very foundation for how we perceive reality.

It isn't about "broadcasting into a brain," but about the profound spiritual evolution of individuals on a level most people can't even fathom.

Most fundamental concepts in Western thought haven't moved much since the days of Socrates, Plato, and Aristotle. Those great minds established the core tenets of how we think today—principles that modern society still struggles to fully realize. People like that are rare, and I'm not talking about theoretical physicists dreaming about deep space. On the other hand, you have the principles established by Buddhism and the Buddha in the East; those truths remain unsurpassed to this day.

When these principles are actually applied to a person's life, true spiritual growth happens. This opens the door for that person to help others, support their community, and even contribute globally to overcoming ignorance.

Human consciousness has always been bolstered by spiritual energies. In a sense, they are a natural extension of consciousness itself.

Tinnitus—that ringing in your ears or head—isn't some cosmic energy from the universe. It's a medical issue.
Michael Gonzalez77 Michael Gonzalez77 Active Member
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#64 ·
rustymaker3 said:Tinnitus—that ringing in your ears or head—isn't some cosmic energy from the universe. It's a medical issue.

Thanks for listening.
hollowpuma762 hollowpuma762 Active Member
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#65 ·
rustymaker3 said:Tinnitus—that ringing in your ears or head—isn't some cosmic energy from the universe. It's a medical issue.

Let's just pray class 3.A manages to stay in their seats until the bell rings.
mistymoose12 mistymoose12 Newcomer
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#66 ·
steelmarlin19 said:I'm pretty much on board with everything you wrote.

Circumstances can be a total GAME CHANGER for success or failure sometimes.

But if you just don't have the TALENT—which is something you're born with—then even the best circumstances in the world won't help you achieve greatness. That's just my take! Cheers ☕

I don't believe in "lucky" or "unlucky" circumstances. Coincidence doesn't exist. We create everything ourselves—it's just that most people aren't even aware of it. We all have access to universal knowledge. All information from the past and the future (time isn't even a thing in that realm) is available to us. It's up to us to elevate ourselves spiritually and open our internal screens to receive the information we need. These techniques are being taught extensively in Russia right now (by Dr. Grabovoi and Dr. Petrov), and soon there will be Drunvalo's school in Sedona, USA. A person doesn't need to be a genius or highly educated to solve profound problems. However, to tap into that Field of Knowledge, one must be HIGHLY SPIRITUALLY ELEVATED—which is the key to opening those internal screens and connecting with universal knowledge. And it's vital that whatever info we pull from that Field is used for the Greater Good.😉
steelmarlin19 steelmarlin19 Member
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#67 ·
mistymoose12 said:I don't believe in "lucky" or "unlucky" circumstances. Coincidence doesn't exist. We create everything ourselves—it's just that most people aren't even aware of it. We all have access to universal knowledge. All information from the past and the future (time isn't even a thing in that realm) is available to us. It's up to us to elevate ourselves spiritually and open our internal screens to receive the information we need. These techniques are being taught extensively in Russia right now (by Dr. Grabovoi and Dr. Petrov), and soon there will be Drunvalo's school in Sedona, USA. A person doesn't need to be a genius or highly educated to solve profound problems. However, to tap into that Field of Knowledge, one must be HIGHLY SPIRITUALLY ELEVATED—which is the key to opening those internal screens and connecting with universal knowledge. And it's vital that whatever info we pull from that Field is used for the Greater Good.😉

That's fair.

But look—if you actually want to be one of the best at something, maybe even the absolute best, you've got to be gifted with that specific talent—and we don't get to pick that part!

Just my two cents! ☕
mistymoose12 mistymoose12 Newcomer
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#68 ·
steelmarlin19 said:That's fair.

But look—if you actually want to be one of the best at something, maybe even the absolute best, you've got to be gifted with that specific talent—and we don't get to pick that part!

Just my two cents! ☕

Actually, we do decide—and long before we even reincarnate. We pick our bodies, our intellect, our strengths, and our flaws; those are the core building blocks of life. Our main priority is the spiritual evolution of our soul, so we seek out specific experiences to elevate ourselves spiritually—provided we navigate them according to God's path.
Any kind of competitive mindset—don't take this as an insult, I respect your view—is toxic. Why would anyone be "better" or "worse"? We are all born with that same spark of God's Love. It's like when Crystal Children sing; how do you pick one winner? They all sing from the soul. Every single performance is world-class—absolutely soul-stirring. So why label someone a loser or a winner? And who gives anyone the right to judge, when God loves us all equally? We all have a talent—a purpose for being here. It would be better if we just remembered that... and discovered who we truly are.
steelmarlin19 steelmarlin19 Member
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#69 ·
mistymoose12 said:Actually, we do decide—and long before we even reincarnate. We pick our bodies, our intellect, our strengths, and our flaws; those are the core building blocks of life. Our main priority is the spiritual evolution of our soul, so we seek out specific experiences to elevate ourselves spiritually—provided we navigate them according to God's path.
Any kind of competitive mindset—don't take this as an insult, I respect your view—is toxic. Why would anyone be "better" or "worse"? We are all born with that same spark of God's Love. It's like when Crystal Children sing; how do you pick one winner? They all sing from the soul. Every single performance is world-class—absolutely soul-stirring. So why label someone a loser or a winner? And who gives anyone the right to judge, when God loves us all equally? We all have a talent—a purpose for being here. It would be better if we just remembered that... and discovered who we truly are.

I wouldn't agree with you—not if we were making all these major life decisions ourselves, especially the big stuff I won't even list right now.

As far as I'm concerned, this is my first life.

One hundred percent.

What about you?

I hope you'll give me an honest answer. Cheers! ☕
mistymoose12 mistymoose12 Newcomer
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#70 ·
steelmarlin19 said:I wouldn't agree with you—not if we were making all these major life decisions ourselves, especially the big stuff I won't even list right now.

As far as I'm concerned, this is my first life.

One hundred percent.

What about you?

I hope you'll give me an honest answer. Cheers! ☕

Look, everyone’s entitled to their own opinion—and I respect that. But I’m an old soul, seasoned by more life and experience than most... It took me over half a century to reach this level of understanding, and frankly, I'm still learning...🤣Greetings to you as well...
steelmarlin19 steelmarlin19 Member
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#71 ·
mistymoose12 said:Look, everyone’s entitled to their own opinion—and I respect that. But I’m an old soul, seasoned by more life and experience than most... It took me over half a century to reach this level of understanding, and frankly, I'm still learning...🤣Greetings to you as well...

Fair enough!

And hey, I respect your perspective too—really, I do.

But I've gotta ask—how can you be so sure your "Self" actually lived through past lives?

What if it's just some kind of illusion triggered by... well, who knows what kind of mental stimuli?

For all we know, could this actually be your first time around? 🤔
mistymoose12 mistymoose12 Newcomer
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#72 ·
steelmarlin19 said:Fair enough!

And hey, I respect your perspective too—really, I do.

But I've gotta ask—how can you be so sure your "Self" actually lived through past lives?

What if it's just some kind of illusion triggered by... well, who knows what kind of mental stimuli?

For all we know, could this actually be your first time around? 🤔

Intuition—I follow my Heart, and it tells me it's true. I've put my Mind-Brain in a subordinate position, so now it's just an assistant, not the lead player. The Mind is a tricky player... always hunting for evidence, over-analyzing, spinning scenarios, denying things. The Mind asks, "How do you know God exists? Can you prove it?" I don't feel the need to prove anything. I just feel it. When I connect with Mother Earth and Father Sky-Sun, my whole body vibrates with energy and unconditional love. My Heart is my guide, not my Mind—and that is the KEY. By moving from the Mind to the heart, our lives enter a different Higher Dimension. That’s the leap everyone talks about. Can it be proven? I don't know. I don't waste my energy on that. Like I said, the Mind is just my assistant, while I follow my Heart and it shows me the WAY. Wishing you all the best on yours...🎉
steelmarlin19 steelmarlin19 Member
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#73 ·
mistymoose12 said:Intuition—I follow my Heart, and it tells me it's true. I've put my Mind-Brain in a subordinate position, so now it's just an assistant, not the lead player. The Mind is a tricky player... always hunting for evidence, over-analyzing, spinning scenarios, denying things. The Mind asks, "How do you know God exists? Can you prove it?" I don't feel the need to prove anything. I just feel it. When I connect with Mother Earth and Father Sky-Sun, my whole body vibrates with energy and unconditional love. My Heart is my guide, not my Mind—and that is the KEY. By moving from the Mind to the heart, our lives enter a different Higher Dimension. That’s the leap everyone talks about. Can it be proven? I don't know. I don't waste my energy on that. Like I said, the Mind is just my assistant, while I follow my Heart and it shows me the WAY. Wishing you all the best on yours...🎉

If you're happy, then hey, fine by me.

Personally, I wouldn't trust anyone 100%—not even my own heart.

Because even your heart can trick you. Guarantee it! ☕
wiredraven82 wiredraven82 Active Member
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#74 ·
When someone truly embraces that inner essence—that core part of themselves—their physical body might falter, BUT THE SPIRIT REMAINS UNBREAKABLE.
rustymaker3 rustymaker3 Member
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#75 ·
mistymoose12 said:Actually, we do decide—and long before we even reincarnate. We pick our bodies, our intellect, our strengths, and our flaws; those are the core building blocks of life. Our main priority is the spiritual evolution of our soul, so we seek out specific experiences to elevate ourselves spiritually—provided we navigate them according to God's path.
Any kind of competitive mindset—don't take this as an insult, I respect your view—is toxic. Why would anyone be "better" or "worse"? We are all born with that same spark of God's Love. It's like when Crystal Children sing; how do you pick one winner? They all sing from the soul. Every single performance is world-class—absolutely soul-stirring. So why label someone a loser or a winner? And who gives anyone the right to judge, when God loves us all equally? We all have a talent—a purpose for being here. It would be better if we just remembered that... and discovered who we truly are.

🙂 Before we are born, we simply don't exist. We are born, we grow, we mature...
Michael Gonzalez77 Michael Gonzalez77 Active Member
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#76 ·
rustymaker3 said:🙂 Before we are born, we simply don't exist. We are born, we grow, we mature...

Sure, but only on an ultrasound. 🥱
rustymaker3 rustymaker3 Member
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#77 ·
Michael Gonzalez77 said:Sure, but only on an ultrasound. 🥱

Thanks. 👍
Paul Thompson3 Paul Thompson3 Active Member
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#78 ·
If some people are clearly born with an edge—whether it’s looks or raw strength—why wouldn't some be naturally superior when it comes to intellect? Why wouldn't they grasp concepts that seem totally abstract to the rest of us? It feels strange—what’s the point of a creator picking specific people to be brilliant just to enlighten everyone else, while leaving the rest of us essentially stuck being dependent on them?
Let’s be honest—Einstein didn't actually do much for the world, and neither did Tesla, really. All those "genius" breakthroughs just end up being weaponized into more efficient ways to wage war or, frankly, just make the average person even more clueless.
Michael Gonzalez77 Michael Gonzalez77 Active Member
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#79 ·
Paul Thompson3 said:If some people are clearly born with an edge—whether it’s looks or raw strength—why wouldn't some be naturally superior when it comes to intellect? Why wouldn't they grasp concepts that seem totally abstract to the rest of us? It feels strange—what’s the point of a creator picking specific people to be brilliant just to enlighten everyone else, while leaving the rest of us essentially stuck being dependent on them?
Let’s be honest—Einstein didn't actually do much for the world, and neither did Tesla, really. All those "genius" breakthroughs just end up being weaponized into more efficient ways to wage war or, frankly, just make the average person even more clueless.

I don't think we're talking about "making others stupid." It's more about how those who have achieved high spiritual awareness contribute to the evolution of human consciousness through their work.

In my view, it isn't that someone was hand-picked and "granted wisdom." Instead, it's about the accumulated potential an individual carries from their past and distant past. That's how people differ—not as fundamental beings, but in terms of their varying stages of developmental attributes.

Paul Thompson3 said:If some people are clearly born with an edge—whether it’s looks or raw strength—why wouldn't some be naturally superior when it comes to intellect? Why wouldn't they grasp concepts that seem totally abstract to the rest of us? It feels strange—what’s the point of a creator picking specific people to be brilliant just to enlighten everyone else, while leaving the rest of us essentially stuck being dependent on them?
Let’s be honest—Einstein didn't actually do much for the world, and neither did Tesla, really. All those "genius" breakthroughs just end up being weaponized into more efficient ways to wage war or, frankly, just make the average person even more clueless.

Not every contribution is inherently good or bad; some drive progress, while others can feel regressive. But saying Tesla didn't advance humanity is just wrong. His tech is lightyears ahead, and frankly, modern scientists can't even realize his ideas because they lack the capacity—or more likely, they just don't care. They're too busy chasing "pop science," indulging in theoretical fantasies, and burning through massive grants to fund sci-fi projects just to exploit everything in sight. Take one of his experiments where he managed to achieve an electromagnetic wave speed of about 261 miles/s—that's more than twice the speed of light. There are documents proving it, but who cares? Not the people obsessed with smashing hypothetical particles that nobody has ever seen and probably never will, all while wasting billions of dollars in the process.

Then you have the other side of technology: stuff that does nothing for conscious evolution and just exists to increase comfort or kill time. A lot of it isn't even designed for regular people; it's built for the ultra-wealthy. Look at medicine—it often ignores the actual causes and mechanisms of disease, focusing instead on a mountain of gadgets and expanding bureaucracy, which leads to more staff but also more chronic illnesses among the public. Science has lost its way because it has to satisfy its financiers, turning a profit for the state or whoever is pulling the strings.
Daniel Castillo11 Daniel Castillo11 Active Member
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#80 ·
There aren't any choices to be made here because there is no such thing as choice. If an individual possesses a trait that others lack, it’s no different from one animal species having a biological capability that another simply doesn't; it isn't a matter of merit, but rather a stroke of blind chance. One can see the same logic applied to social standing. Some people are born with the temperament of a fighter, while others are naturally passive or possess entirely different dispositions—none of this is earned or selected through will.

If we were actually making conscious choices, we would essentially be breaking the natural chain of cause and effect. Think about it: could you truly make a decision right this second that would retroactively alter the conditions and consequences of the past moments that led you to this very instant? To do so, one would have to exist above nature and act from a position outside of the natural order, which just isn't possible. Things simply unfold; they don't require some grand reason or inherent purpose to happen.

Even those self-proclaimed enlightened gurus are really just individuals who happen to possess a certain subtle narcissism, a silver tongue, and just enough charisma to stand out and convince people of their uniqueness. Their "specialness" is nothing more than their capacity to influence others, and even that isn't a divine gift—it's just a specific part of their psychological makeup.

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