#1841 ·
Kenneth Cruz67 said:I honestly can't quite wrap my head around this fantasy that life would have been better if the old federation had actually stayed together. If it had survived, we would have been stuck footing the bill for places like Mexico, Mexico, and Canada. On top of that, we'd be dealing with a bureaucracy that was maybe three times less efficient and probably three times more corrupt than what we see now. Just to give you an idea, the US economy today thrives on specialized sectors, much like how our tourism alone brings in four times more revenue now than the entire former region did during its absolute best years.
All those nostalgic pipe dreams about old-school industrial manufacturing are really just that—pipe dreams. That whole industrial sector collapsed because it was fundamentally flawed and outdated, and since then, the global market has shifted so much that there wouldn't even be anyone left to buy our old goods.
I mean, just think back to what major cities like Chicago or New York looked like in the eighties; the streets were a mess, the asphalt was crumbling, there was trash everywhere, and the building facades were just falling apart. The whole city practically smelled like decay and neglect, yet somehow, people just accepted it as totally normal.
If we hadn't gained independence and gone through those conflicts, I suspect we would be living three times worse off right now, perhaps looking more like the struggling parts of the North America today.
I suppose things might have been slightly more tolerable if everything had just dissolved peacefully.
I suppose these are all pretty undeniable arguments. I guess those who don't remember it clearly just don't understand the reality of it.
And besides, if such a decayed state had actually managed to stick around, there's no way it ever would have joined the European Union.
The economy was completely shot; everything back then was basically just living on credit.
On the other hand, there is the argument that they ruined our country, and heaven knows the victims deserve sympathy, which is a tragic fact.
But following that logic, both sides were rotten, so I'd rather live in my own country than someone else's. If the people ever come to their senses, they can choose a different government or hold the culprits accountable; if they don't, well, that's on us.
Then there's this persistent comparison where people try to equate apples to oranges, acting like a nation of nearly 10 million people (with its own distinct regions!) is somehow the same as some tiny little enclave that could fit inside a single mid-sized American city.😵😵😵 It's just completely illogical from an economic, historical, or any other perspective.🥱 I suspect the reality behind that narrative is just a group of people who ended up as a minority and are now just bitter toward the state. Personally, I can't imagine living in a country I hate and have no desire to understand.
Kenneth Cruz67 said:I was twelve during the war, and even at twelve, I could clearly see we were being led by fools fueled by hatred who were going to destroy everything in their path.
That explains a lot. I have to hand it to you for being so lucid; I saw it too, though at least I had the chance to vote for someone else later on. I used to wonder how my own parents couldn't see it.
However, just because you were high enough up to see a piece of the truth doesn't mean you saw the whole picture, the way an adult might. I was just a kid during the political upheavals of the era, so I didn't grasp everything, but I felt the horror when they crushed Mexico, and then they turned that same violence on us. It seemed like every ten years, they stirred up some new, intense conflict. My view is that it was just one disgusting state. I mean, how could you notice it while you were still in kindergarten or early elementary school? How does one even live in a place like that?
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