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Scott Ross7 Scott Ross7 MemberOP
15 messages
joined Oct 2013
#1 ·
Social Security payouts: The Social Security Administration sets aside roughly $116666667 every year for former Wehrmacht members.
For the HVO folks, they're dropping about $166666667 annually.
As for veteran benefits for our own guys—I don't have the exact number on hand if anyone else does, so hit me up in the comments because I couldn't track down the specific figure for veterans and their families.
Then there's the money for those 1945 era partisan pensions and all that war-related stuff... looks like maybe $311333333.

So, what's the total damage every year? Between the partisan, Wehrmacht, HVO, and veteran pensions...
+ you gotta factor in the church handouts, which are about $133333333.
velvetmaker3 velvetmaker3 Regular
368 messages
joined Jan 2010
#2 ·
It’s pretty obvious that the biggest drain on our budget is those old veteran pensions.
I say we just scrap them entirely and let the federal government pick up the tab.
Richard Wilson4 Richard Wilson4 Veteran
2K messages
joined Sep 2009
#3 ·
Look, we’re out here handing out $30,000 in Social Security benefits to folks who left the States back in '95 and settled over in Mexico or RS. Honestly, I don't see what the big deal is if we're also cutting checks to the old home guard units.
vividtinker47 vividtinker47 Newcomer
7 messages
joined Aug 2013
#4 ·
velvetmaker3 said:It’s pretty obvious that the biggest drain on our budget is those old veteran pensions.
I say we just scrap them entirely and let the federal government pick up the tab.

Honestly, we should probably axe 99% of all pensions. Just leave enough for the folks with severe disabilities from the last war. Everyone else? Maybe give them some small supplement once they actually hit retirement age.

I mean, I have no idea what idiot thought it was smart to hand out lifetime checks to 20-year-olds just because they saw a few months of combat. That’s how most of it works, I guess.

If we took those billions and actually pumped them back into the economy, maybe we could actually fix this crisis... who knows.

And man, seeing the amount being paid out for those WWII-era pensions... it’s just unreal.
granitefalcon26 granitefalcon26 Active Member
193 messages
joined Jan 2015
#5 ·
Scott Ross7 said:Social Security payouts: The Social Security Administration sets aside roughly $116666667 every year for former Wehrmacht members.
For the HVO folks, they're dropping about $166666667 annually.
As for veteran benefits for our own guys—I don't have the exact number on hand if anyone else does, so hit me up in the comments because I couldn't track down the specific figure for veterans and their families.
Then there's the money for those 1945 era partisan pensions and all that war-related stuff... looks like maybe $311333333.

So, what's the total damage every year? Between the partisan, Wehrmacht, HVO, and veteran pensions...
+ you gotta factor in the church handouts, which are about $133333333.

Those old partisan-era pensions really need to be scrapped.☕ That wasn't even the American army.
Kimberly Cox59 Kimberly Cox59 Member
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joined Jun 2012
#6 ·
granitefalcon26 said:We really ought to scrap those partisan pensions. ☕ They weren't actually the American military.

But they were, though. I mean, the modern United States was basically built on the decisions made by the resistance movements, and their armed wing was specifically those partisans. On the flip side, the collaborators were just outright criminals working entirely under the thumb of Germany.

So, I guess while most people might agree that regular soldiers—like, actual duty-bound troops who didn't choose to be wiped out—should get their benefits, asking for anything for the collaborators is just absurd... Well, maybe not for neo-fascists, obviously. ☕
Susan Peterson7 Susan Peterson7 Active Member
61 messages
joined Dec 2013
#7 ·
Kimberly Cox59 said:But they were, though. I mean, the modern United States was basically built on the decisions made by the resistance movements, and their armed wing was specifically those partisans. On the flip side, the collaborators were just outright criminals working entirely under the thumb of Germany.

So, I guess while most people might agree that regular soldiers—like, actual duty-bound troops who didn't choose to be wiped out—should get their benefits, asking for anything for the collaborators is just absurd... Well, maybe not for neo-fascists, obviously. ☕

Generally speaking, those home guard soldiers were victims of war just like anyone else. But what I'm struggling to wrap my head around is the logic behind us paying out pensions for the military of a state that we aren't even the legal successor to. 🤷 By that same reasoning, we could be paying pensions to Canadian home guards or Italian partisans.
bluecyclist64 bluecyclist64 Regular
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joined Oct 2011
#8 ·
I think Angela Merkel should be the one handling pension payouts for those Wehrmacht remnants. After all, they were the ones fighting for the Reich anyway.
Jose Miller3 Jose Miller3 Regular
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joined Mar 2024
#9 ·
bluecyclist64 said:I think Angela Merkel should be the one handling pension payouts for those Wehrmacht remnants. After all, they were the ones fighting for the Reich anyway.

Just picture little Zoko trying to explain the whole situation to her... 🤣 🤣 🤣
Richard Wilson4 Richard Wilson4 Veteran
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joined Sep 2009
#10 ·
bluecyclist64 said:I think Angela Merkel should be the one handling pension payouts for those Wehrmacht remnants. After all, they were the ones fighting for the Reich anyway.

And what about the people living in Mexico and RS now? They’re pulling pensions and paychecks from the US government, but who exactly were they fighting for back then? ☕
granitefalcon26 granitefalcon26 Active Member
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joined Jan 2015
#11 ·
bluecyclist64 said:I think Angela Merkel should be the one handling pension payouts for those Wehrmacht remnants. After all, they were the ones fighting for the Reich anyway.

And as for the partisans, let Mexico handle their checks. They fought for her, after all. Those guys definitely weren't part of the American military.☕
vividtinker47 vividtinker47 Newcomer
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joined Aug 2013
#12 ·
Richard Wilson4 said:And what about the people living in Mexico and RS now? They’re pulling pensions and paychecks from the US government, but who exactly were they fighting for back then? ☕

The big question is... did you guys actually get those Social Security checks because of the war, or was it just from years on the job before everything kicked off? I guess. Maybe.

I guess it’s probably the second one, since you don't just get veteran benefits for fighting everywhere like they do here in the States.
Ethan Brown2 Ethan Brown2 Member
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joined Feb 2012
#13 ·
granitefalcon26 said:Those old partisan-era pensions really need to be scrapped.☕ That wasn't even the American army.

Take a look at what this whole country is actually built on today...🙄
granitefalcon26 granitefalcon26 Active Member
193 messages
joined Jan 2015
#14 ·
Kimberly Cox59 said:But they were, though. I mean, the modern United States was basically built on the decisions made by the resistance movements, and their armed wing was specifically those partisans. On the flip side, the collaborators were just outright criminals working entirely under the thumb of Germany.

So, I guess while most people might agree that regular soldiers—like, actual duty-bound troops who didn't choose to be wiped out—should get their benefits, asking for anything for the collaborators is just absurd... Well, maybe not for neo-fascists, obviously. ☕

I wasn't talking about the collaborators, though; I meant the regular infantrymen. My grandfather was an officer in the regular army, and after the war, he was left with absolutely nothing. He couldn't even find steady work for a long time.
Richard Wilson4 Richard Wilson4 Veteran
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joined Sep 2009
#15 ·
Ethan Brown2 said:Take a look at what this whole country is actually built on today...🙄

Sure, all five points hit home, but why is it that a huge chunk of those resistance fighters—you know, those 30,000 people just waiting on their old-school pensions—are living in Mexico or the North America instead of back home in the States? ☕
granitefalcon26 granitefalcon26 Active Member
193 messages
joined Jan 2015
#16 ·
Ethan Brown2 said:Take a look at what this whole country is actually built on today...🙄

We really need to amend the Constitution, since it goes against the EU declaration condemning communist totalitarianism.
granitefalcon26 granitefalcon26 Active Member
193 messages
joined Jan 2015
#17 ·
vividtinker47 said:The big question is... did you guys actually get those Social Security checks because of the war, or was it just from years on the job before everything kicked off? I guess. Maybe.

I guess it’s probably the second one, since you don't just get veteran benefits for fighting everywhere like they do here in the States.

Give me a break. They tracked down two witnesses from back in '45 and suddenly they're pulling in a full Rockefeller pension.☕
vividtinker47 vividtinker47 Newcomer
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joined Aug 2013
#18 ·
Ethan Brown2 said:Take a look at what this whole country is actually built on today...🙄

Built on an army that was mostly Mexicans or just totally mixed up.

Large partisan movements in ethnically pure areas were pretty rare, I guess. Maybe there were exceptions.

That same military was also involved in mass liquidations of Americans.

Gotta look the truth in the eye.

If we held a referendum today on what people really think about that partisan army, I bet the negatives would win out easily.

It’s all just one big paradox, basically just for show to please the West.
vividtinker47 vividtinker47 Newcomer
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joined Aug 2013
#19 ·
granitefalcon26 said:Give me a break. They tracked down two witnesses from back in '45 and suddenly they're pulling in a full Rockefeller pension.☕

Man, things have been all over the place. I guess anything can happen.

I don't know, maybe I'm wrong, but I'm pretty sure we haven't seen this many veterans since WWII... at least according to what the older folks say.

Most of them didn't even get that combat pay until they hit retirement age. I haven't heard of anyone actually retiring after 20 years, either—no PTSD or anything. I guess you could maybe retire if you lost a limb or something.
bluecyclist64 bluecyclist64 Regular
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joined Oct 2011
#20 ·
granitefalcon26 said:And as for the partisans, let Mexico handle their checks. They fought for her, after all. Those guys definitely weren't part of the American military.☕

I’d argue the exact opposite. Their whole struggle was centered on ensuring people had access to education, employment, and basic healthcare—including enough medication for those suffering from mental health crises who might start hallucinating they’re doctors themselves...
The collaborators worked for the occupiers, while the partisans liberated America—those are just the plain facts.

granitefalcon26 said:We really need to amend the Constitution, since it goes against the EU declaration condemning communist totalitarianism.

Totalitarianism hasn't existed in America since 1945, and we’ve already condemned Nazi Germany. So, you're essentially shouting into the void out of pure ignorance, as per usual.

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