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Ronald Jones Ronald Jones Active Member
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#61 ·
placidmason58 said:Judging others seems to be a universal pastime, doesn't it? People love to cast stones and slap labels on everyone they see, rarely pausing to consider the underlying reasons behind someone else's actions. It’s far too easy to point a finger the moment someone slips up, and frankly, some people seem to derive a twisted sense of superiority from it—it feeds their ego.

Do you find yourself frequently judging those around you, and more importantly, how do you handle the weight of it when the spotlight turns on you and you're the one being judged?

People tend to pass judgment because, more often than not, they simply lack any sense of empathy for one another... 😳 😳

I wouldn't go so far as to judge... 😳 😳 Anyone who finds amusement in someone else's mistakes isn't a true friend... nor do they possess any real character... ☕ ☕
James Foster4 James Foster4 Member
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#62 ·
Douglas Rivera6 said:When I was younger, I used to spend way too much time talking smack about people and everything happening around town, mostly because I just didn't get it back then, and honestly, I kind of thought certain things would just never happen to me...
I wasn't trying to be a jerk or anything, but I definitely talked, and yeah, I probably judged them along the way. But man, getting older really shows you how easy it is to point fingers, and sometimes that judgment actually comes right back at you.
I don't judge anymore, and I’m definitely not out here looking down on anyone. Everyone has their own reasons for doing what they do, and if someone thinks their choice was okay for them, well, that’s their business, and we don't need to step in.
Maybe even that person, looking back from a distance, thinks to themselves, "Man, maybe I shouldn't have done it that way," but whatever, it's done and dusted now.
It’s always so easy to sit on the sidelines, watching everyone else and commenting or judging, especially when it feels totally obvious to us how they should've handled things—we're sitting there thinking, "How can they not see this?"
But hey, they just don't see it.
Everyone is just out here doing the best they can with what they've got, but sometimes that isn't enough and we just screw up big time.
Plus, I really think people love to judge because pointing out someone else's "flaws" is basically just a way to make themselves feel better, like, "Oh, look at them, at least I'm doing fine."

I feel pretty much the same way... as you mature, you get used to diversity and you stop judging people who aren't living life exactly the way you think they should...
Douglas Rivera6 Douglas Rivera6 Newcomer
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#63 ·
A few years back, I finally realized just how incredibly hard it is to avoid getting sucked into that whole "groupthink" judgmental vibe.
Some close friends of ours went through a massive marriage crisis, and because everyone knew about it, you couldn't even grab a coffee with anyone from our social circle without them becoming the center of attention.
It was just constant finger-pointing at one person or another, acting like every single person in the group has some flawless marriage and a perfect life where every decision they make is somehow the right one.
And honestly, if you don't jump in on the bashing, it’s like you're being pushed to the sidelines of your own life; you’re sitting there at the table, sipping your latte, staying quiet, and just feeling totally unwelcome in the club.
But here's the thing about what happened recently.
Luckily, I’ve got enough backbone to speak up and make it clear that I have zero interest in judging anyone, but ever since that whole episode, I've felt this deep sense of alienation from those people who act like vultures, dissecting every little look or movement just waiting for the next mess to happen so they can have something new to gossip about over coffee.
I found myself thinking, Douglas Rivera6, do you really think things would have gone any differently? Honestly, sweetie, no—it probably would've just been worse.
Thank God I’m at a point where it doesn't bother me if I hear something about myself that isn't true or isn't right, because at the end of the day, who cares? It might bug me, but I'm not letting it get to my heart. People are going to talk, and they always have, it's just the way it is.
Benjamin King17 Benjamin King17 Member
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#64 ·
Eric Gray2 said:Is it because we're—well, human?

I find it pretty difficult to walk in other people's shoes sometimes. It’s not like I’m proud of that or think I have any right to do it, but yeah—I know myself well enough to admit that I still catch myself judging people.

It’s understandable, I suppose—but honestly, people today just can't stop sticking their noses where they don't belong. To truly judge someone, you actually need to understand their motivations or the circumstances behind their actions... yet most people just spout nonsense without a second thought. That’s how gossip culture starts—that toxic breed of people whose only goal is to condemn others while having absolutely no clue what’s actually going on. It’s exhausting. It seems like everyone is more interested in someone else's business than their own...

Stereotypes and all that nonsense are just baked into the fabric of this world and society—but the real issue is how much people obsess over things that have absolutely nothing to do with them. Still...
Eric Gray2 Eric Gray2 Regular
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#65 ·
Benjamin King17 said:It’s understandable, I suppose—but honestly, people today just can't stop sticking their noses where they don't belong. To truly judge someone, you actually need to understand their motivations or the circumstances behind their actions... yet most people just spout nonsense without a second thought. That’s how gossip culture starts—that toxic breed of people whose only goal is to condemn others while having absolutely no clue what’s actually going on. It’s exhausting. It seems like everyone is more interested in someone else's business than their own...

Stereotypes and all that nonsense are just baked into the fabric of this world and society—but the real issue is how much people obsess over things that have absolutely nothing to do with them. Still...

I really think judgment mostly stems from ignorance, just like someone else pointed out earlier.
That said, I think there's a massive distinction between having a personal boundary—like thinking, "I would never do that myself"—and the actual act of gossiping, spreading rumors, and just being malicious toward others.
Douglas Rivera6 Douglas Rivera6 Newcomer
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#66 ·
Eric Gray2 said:I really think judgment mostly stems from ignorance, just like someone else pointed out earlier.
That said, I think there's a massive distinction between having a personal boundary—like thinking, "I would never do that myself"—and the actual act of gossiping, spreading rumors, and just being malicious toward others.


I am totally on board with this because while some folks are just repeating things they heard, there are definitely those types who literally make stuff up out of thin air, adding all kinds of nasty details, and taking one tiny little thing they overheard and spinning it into some wild sci-fi movie plot that has absolutely zero connection to what actually happened.
Can't wait to see someone finally shut them down.
James Foster4 James Foster4 Member
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#67 ·
Douglas Rivera6 said:A few years back, I finally realized just how incredibly hard it is to avoid getting sucked into that whole "groupthink" judgmental vibe.
Some close friends of ours went through a massive marriage crisis, and because everyone knew about it, you couldn't even grab a coffee with anyone from our social circle without them becoming the center of attention.
It was just constant finger-pointing at one person or another, acting like every single person in the group has some flawless marriage and a perfect life where every decision they make is somehow the right one.
And honestly, if you don't jump in on the bashing, it’s like you're being pushed to the sidelines of your own life; you’re sitting there at the table, sipping your latte, staying quiet, and just feeling totally unwelcome in the club.
But here's the thing about what happened recently.
Luckily, I’ve got enough backbone to speak up and make it clear that I have zero interest in judging anyone, but ever since that whole episode, I've felt this deep sense of alienation from those people who act like vultures, dissecting every little look or movement just waiting for the next mess to happen so they can have something new to gossip about over coffee.
I found myself thinking, Douglas Rivera6, do you really think things would have gone any differently? Honestly, sweetie, no—it probably would've just been worse.
Thank God I’m at a point where it doesn't bother me if I hear something about myself that isn't true or isn't right, because at the end of the day, who cares? It might bug me, but I'm not letting it get to my heart. People are going to talk, and they always have, it's just the way it is.

Sometimes I find myself reflecting on things and honestly, I wonder how I ever spent time with people like that, or how I ended up caught up in their drama (it was mostly just neighbors, usually)... I feel like I'm in a different phase of life now. I just don't care what anyone says anymore. They just keep doing the same old thing, and honestly, it's pretty exhausting to watch...
Douglas Rivera6 Douglas Rivera6 Newcomer
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#68 ·
James Foster4 said:Sometimes I find myself reflecting on things and honestly, I wonder how I ever spent time with people like that, or how I ended up caught up in their drama (it was mostly just neighbors, usually)... I feel like I'm in a different phase of life now. I just don't care what anyone says anymore. They just keep doing the same old thing, and honestly, it's pretty exhausting to watch...

Yeah, I've gotta admit, I feel the exact same way about this.🙈
Benjamin King17 Benjamin King17 Member
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#69 ·
Eric Gray2 said:I really think judgment mostly stems from ignorance, just like someone else pointed out earlier.
That said, I think there's a massive distinction between having a personal boundary—like thinking, "I would never do that myself"—and the actual act of gossiping, spreading rumors, and just being malicious toward others.


That other stuff you mentioned? That’s just pure, bottom-tier gossip. Plus, most of them will invent an entire scenario just to stir the pot—all because they don't actually know what happened in the first place. You know how it goes with Hollywood celebrities... you hear all this drama, only to find out later it never even happened. It’s a bit absurd, but I think you get my point... What I’ll never understand is when people start meddling in things that aren't their business. It’s not even about judging anymore; it’s that they try to jump in and fix a crooked Mississippi. Look, helping is fine—really—but sometimes it’s better to just let things play out the way they’re meant to. If you can't actually help, then maybe just stay out of it...
Richard Wells Richard Wells Active Member
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#70 ·
Jonathan Ortiz2 said:I don't know about you, but it sounds like you just took a massive swing at judging an entire nation.

Pervan once said he'd rather his neighbor's cow drop dead than have nothing himself. It's pretty pathetic when you think about it.

As far as I know, that's an old saying that used to fly all over this part of the world. And honestly, it usually goes more like: "I don't care if my cow dies, as long as my neighbor loses two."

Why would anyone stay quiet, and who decided that's what "making things worse" even means?

Take, for instance, some girl waiting for the bus, dressed a bit provocatively...Person A and Person B start gossiping about how slutty she looks right then and there. Then Person A and B go their separate ways. End of story, right?

But it's never the end, because a week later, Person A hears from Person C that the same girl was apparently "seeing" multiple guys at once.
And now, in that moment, Person A brings up what they said to Person B earlier, and A and C form a solid opinion.

Still not over, because then Person D walks in, heard everything, and formed their own view. Person D doesn't approve of them talking trash about the girl and lets them know it.
Immediately, Person A and C pivot and form a brand new opinion—not about the girl, but about Person D. They slap the label of "holier-than-thou" or "sellout" on them just because they didn't join in on the judgment.

All of this serves to create these social divisions and reinforce stereotypical behavior. Why?
Maybe it's some evolutionary thing where we're hardwired to recognize patterns to avoid dangerous or stupid situations—like that elevator example or something else—or maybe we just do it to manufacture a consensus for some unspoken purpose...

Look, here’s my two cents, plain and simple: you have zero clue what actually drives someone to act that way. You don't know their life story, their habits, or how they learned to fight just to survive. Honestly, jumping in with judgments and comments before you even know a person is ungrateful—it's straight-up rude. And no, being judgmental isn't just "human nature." Sure, it's the easiest thing in the world to do, but it's also something we can totally get a handle on if we actually put in the work.
Adam Gray Adam Gray Newcomer
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#71 ·
There was this one person who drove me absolutely insane—I felt completely stuck in their orbit. It got to the point where I started judging them for every single thing they did. I was constantly condemning and hating them in my head, even if I didn't say it out loud. Eventually, it all came crashing back down on me. I finally managed to distance myself, but not before I realized I was guilty of everything I had been criticizing them for. Now, I take a step back and reflect. Everything happens for a reason. Getting angry once is one thing, but letting those negative thoughts loop endlessly in your mind? That’s a different story entirely. Nobody is perfect, least of all us. 🙂
Ronald Cook24 Ronald Cook24 Newcomer
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#72 ·
Jacob Cooper5 said:Judgment matters. We’re talking about actual discernment here.
If you want to survive out there, you have to be able to weigh things up. You need to realize you aren't just walking into a campfire... you need to know you aren't jumping off a fifth-story balcony without a parachute.
That kind of foresight—that ability to judge a situation—is everything.

When you strip away someone's ability to think critically for themselves, you pave the way for cults, "soulmate" delusions, and all kinds of psychological manipulation...

Don't confuse judgment with being judgmental. They are two completely different concepts with totally different meanings. Of course, you're going to judge a situation, but usually only after some time has passed. Being "judgmental" is more about that split-second first impression—like seeing someone walking down a street in New York and thinking they look stuck-up just because of how they're dressed.
And honestly, I’ll admit I’m guilty of judging people based on looks sometimes too. It’s such a shallow thing to do. Who knows what kind of person is actually hiding behind a "pretty" or "ugly" face?
coastalharbor coastalharbor Newcomer
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#73 ·
I can't stand the constant judging.

I guess I've realized that the people most likely to point fingers are those who've had it easy—people with stable lives who have never dealt with scarcity, real struggles, or messy family issues growing up.

People are shaped by their childhood and youth. If they had a rough upbringing or dealt with trauma, they tend to hit bumps in the road that make others judge them.

I mentioned an example before, but there's another one similar to it. In my extended family, there's this girl whose parents were alcoholics and went through a messy divorce; just a totally dysfunctional household. She went through hell because of it. She never knew what love felt like, so she basically just went off the rails and eventually became known as the local troublemaker. But after years of partying and making bad choices, she actually changed. She found a great guy who treats her right, she’s never cheated, doesn't drink much, stays in, finished school, got a job, and moved in with him. I know her well enough to say she’s a genuinely good person who just didn't get a fair shake as a kid.

And now, everyone is talking behind her back, labeling her as some kind of slut. People even mock her boyfriend for being with her. It's just a bunch of self-righteous types laughing, acting like saints because they had perfect upbringings and have no clue what it's like to grow up with alcoholic parents and a broken home.
frozenmoose93 frozenmoose93 Member
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#74 ·
It’s pretty funny how hypocritical everyone is. You all claim you "don't like judging people," but then in the very same breath, you go ahead and judge them for judging. 😂 😂
Eric Gray2 Eric Gray2 Regular
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#75 ·
frozenmoose93 said:It’s pretty funny how hypocritical everyone is. You all claim you "don't like judging people," but then in the very same breath, you go ahead and judge them for judging. 😂 😂

There is a massive difference between criticizing someone's actions and attacking who they are as a person.
hiddeneagle98 hiddeneagle98 Regular
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#76 ·
Judging someone else is really just a way of projecting your own insecurities onto them.

That whole impulse usually stems from intense social pressure—that desperate urge to blend into the herd and sync up perfectly with the group's ideals, or maybe just trying to merge one's identity with a single other person.

A crowd, or even just a couple of people, becomes a monolith by aligning their desires and fears, essentially distinguishing themselves from outsiders through those shared anxieties and ambitions.

By pointing out how someone else is "different," a group reinforces its own sense of belonging and proves they’re all clinging to the same values, effectively validating their own righteousness. It’s a defense mechanism used to kill off the fear of being an outcast, which, if we're being honest, is just a massive sign of lacking self-confidence.

On top of that, highlighting those differences is often a calculated move to isolate or cast someone out—labeling them as "wrong" because they don't align with the collective fears or goals of the pack.
Richard Wells Richard Wells Active Member
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#77 ·
Eric Gray2 said:There is a massive difference between criticizing someone's actions and attacking who they are as a person.

Wait, so you think behavior is something separate from the person doing it?
Eric Gray2 Eric Gray2 Regular
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#78 ·
Richard Wells said:Wait, so you think behavior is something separate from the person doing it?

Look, behavior is just one facet of who someone is. Obviously, we don't judge every single action with the same intensity—we aren't going to write someone off entirely just because they have a slightly less charming trait here or there. Not every habit or choice defines a person's entire soul. For instance, smoking is a disgusting habit—really, truly repulsive. But even so, I know plenty of smokers that I care about deeply and consider great people, regardless of the fact that they smell like an ashtray and are actively shortening their lives. On the flip side, child abuse is also a disgusting habit. How many pedophiles do you think would be described as "otherwise wonderful people"?
Amanda Gonzalez66 Amanda Gonzalez66 Newcomer
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#79 ·
placidmason58 said:Judging others seems to be a universal pastime, doesn't it? People love to cast stones and slap labels on everyone they see, rarely pausing to consider the underlying reasons behind someone else's actions. It’s far too easy to point a finger the moment someone slips up, and frankly, some people seem to derive a twisted sense of superiority from it—it feeds their ego.

Do you find yourself frequently judging those around you, and more importantly, how do you handle the weight of it when the spotlight turns on you and you're the one being judged?

I honestly don't know myself.
I've been thinking about this constantly lately.
I'm curious to hear what you all think. I'll share what I condemn and what I don't. Then, please tell me your thoughts.

If someone hurts me, I judge them. But if they apologize, I stop. I can value an apology. Still, there's that lingering feeling of being hurt or disappointed. I hold a grudge against the person who caused the pain. I'm not sure if that counts as judgment.
I judge dishonesty if the person refuses to own up to it (though some people do admit when they're wrong). In those moments, I feel personally wronged.
I judge people who take their insecurities out on others. That also causes hurt.
I judge rapists. I feel pure rage toward them.
I judge it when someone refuses to make amends after causing injustice (to anyone).
I judge exploitation, especially sexual exploitation.
I judge when someone lies about another person or makes up stories just to boost their own status.
I judge public insults if they look like a desperate attempt to elevate oneself. If it's just about being hurt, then no.
I judge people who constantly demand favors and expect them to be returned. They get offended if you don't help them, yet they wouldn't lift a finger if you asked.

Once a person apologizes or admits what they did, I stop judging.

Holding a grudge or judging someone doesn't mean I can't talk to them normally or empathize with them. Those same people can still be dear to me.

Regarding rapists, the only time I feel any pity is if I know they are genuinely remorseful.

Murderers—I don't know why, but I don't judge them. Instead, I feel a sense of pity. I feel like they don't truly understand what they've done. Sometimes they act in a moment of blind rage and regret it later, which makes me feel even worse for them.

People struggling with addiction—I could never judge them. I feel terrible for them because they are such vulnerable people.

Pedophiles—I judge them.

Alcoholics—I feel deep pity for them.

Promiscuity—generally speaking, I judge it. But when I talk to someone personally about it, I feel for them. Often, it's tied to a lot of underlying issues. A person might not even realize it isn't healthy, or they aren't conscious of what they're doing. They don't realize they aren't taking care of themselves.
I also judge if that person is simultaneously exploiting others sexually.

I judge when someone enters a relationship solely for physical gain, knowing the other person has genuine feelings involved.

Sometimes my feelings are a mix of pity and judgment for certain things.

But at first glance, I don't judge people.
Most of the time, I don't.
Thinking about it now, I realize I actually do judge certain people.
The ones who dress provocatively, making their bodies available for everyone to stare at.
Though that doesn't mean I wouldn't give them a chance or talk to them.

I don't know if that's "judgment." If a person hurts me, it will hurt, and I will judge them for it. I'll hold it against them.

🤷
Kevin Young4 Kevin Young4 Newcomer
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#80 ·
placidmason58 said:Judging others seems to be a universal pastime, doesn't it? People love to cast stones and slap labels on everyone they see, rarely pausing to consider the underlying reasons behind someone else's actions. It’s far too easy to point a finger the moment someone slips up, and frankly, some people seem to derive a twisted sense of superiority from it—it feeds their ego.

Do you find yourself frequently judging those around you, and more importantly, how do you handle the weight of it when the spotlight turns on you and you're the one being judged?

I judge the judges... first and foremost. Then there's the rest of the crowd who can't wrap their heads around the complexity of being human—those who think if someone is struggling with depression or putting out negative energy, they should just be left alone. They can't always be bubbly and cheerful, and that doesn't mean they shouldn't be allowed to speak up.
And then there are those who write me off as "too sensitive" because my writing style leans toward the sentimental or melancholic. My philosophy is simple: accept everything within myself and the world outside exactly as it is. Sadness is a part of my life, just like the good parts.

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