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Nicholas Gonzalez8 Nicholas Gonzalez8 Regular
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joined Feb 2015
#81 ·
Amanda Gonzalez66 said:I honestly don't know myself.
I've been thinking about this constantly lately.
I'm curious to hear what you all think. I'll share what I condemn and what I don't. Then, please tell me your thoughts.

If someone hurts me, I judge them. But if they apologize, I stop. I can value an apology. Still, there's that lingering feeling of being hurt or disappointed. I hold a grudge against the person who caused the pain. I'm not sure if that counts as judgment.
I judge dishonesty if the person refuses to own up to it (though some people do admit when they're wrong). In those moments, I feel personally wronged.
I judge people who take their insecurities out on others. That also causes hurt.
I judge rapists. I feel pure rage toward them.
I judge it when someone refuses to make amends after causing injustice (to anyone).
I judge exploitation, especially sexual exploitation.
I judge when someone lies about another person or makes up stories just to boost their own status.
I judge public insults if they look like a desperate attempt to elevate oneself. If it's just about being hurt, then no.
I judge people who constantly demand favors and expect them to be returned. They get offended if you don't help them, yet they wouldn't lift a finger if you asked.

Once a person apologizes or admits what they did, I stop judging.

Holding a grudge or judging someone doesn't mean I can't talk to them normally or empathize with them. Those same people can still be dear to me.

Regarding rapists, the only time I feel any pity is if I know they are genuinely remorseful.

Murderers—I don't know why, but I don't judge them. Instead, I feel a sense of pity. I feel like they don't truly understand what they've done. Sometimes they act in a moment of blind rage and regret it later, which makes me feel even worse for them.

People struggling with addiction—I could never judge them. I feel terrible for them because they are such vulnerable people.

Pedophiles—I judge them.

Alcoholics—I feel deep pity for them.

Promiscuity—generally speaking, I judge it. But when I talk to someone personally about it, I feel for them. Often, it's tied to a lot of underlying issues. A person might not even realize it isn't healthy, or they aren't conscious of what they're doing. They don't realize they aren't taking care of themselves.
I also judge if that person is simultaneously exploiting others sexually.

I judge when someone enters a relationship solely for physical gain, knowing the other person has genuine feelings involved.

Sometimes my feelings are a mix of pity and judgment for certain things.

But at first glance, I don't judge people.
Most of the time, I don't.
Thinking about it now, I realize I actually do judge certain people.
The ones who dress provocatively, making their bodies available for everyone to stare at.
Though that doesn't mean I wouldn't give them a chance or talk to them.

I don't know if that's "judgment." If a person hurts me, it will hurt, and I will judge them for it. I'll hold it against them.

🤷

Deep down, every single person wants to be happy. But the problem is, they often go about it in the most twisted ways possible, hurting themselves and everyone around them in the process. You should try stepping into the shoes of the person you're judging—just for a second. Look at things from their side. What could have pushed them to act like that? What are their relationships like? Did they deal with some heavy trauma growing up? Can you hear the fear or the struggle hidden in their words?

The more you understand the "why," the less you'll find yourself judging. And listen, that doesn't mean you're okay with what they did or that you're making excuses for them. It just means you're freeing yourself from all that negativity that does nothing but poison your own life.

Also, keep this in mind: you can't force an apology out of someone who hasn't even realized they messed up. You can try to help them see the light, or you can just walk away and let them figure it out on their own. Of course, if someone is genuinely dangerous to the people around them, you've gotta protect others from them. Period.
Alex Perez Alex Perez Newcomer
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joined Feb 2014
#82 ·
I used to be someone who passed judgment on everyone and everything without even giving it a second thought, but nowadays, I find myself holding back as much as I possibly can. To be honest, if I do end up judging someone at all, it’s usually just a knee-jerk reaction fueled by raw emotion—whether that’s anger, sadness, or a flash of jealousy—and I always end up feeling terrible about it afterward. 🙄
Douglas Rivera6 Douglas Rivera6 Newcomer
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joined Oct 2013
#83 ·
I’ve already shared my thoughts on judging people, but I really just want to double down on that one sentence right above. Honestly, I'm not saying I'm judging anyone here, but man, it's just such a huge pet peeve of mine when I see people acting like that.

Amanda Gonzalez66
I totally call out anyone who lies about someone else and makes up fake stories just to make themselves look better.
Amanda Gonzalez66 Amanda Gonzalez66 Newcomer
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joined Feb 2014
#84 ·
Nicholas Gonzalez8 said:Deep down, every single person wants to be happy. But the problem is, they often go about it in the most twisted ways possible, hurting themselves and everyone around them in the process. You should try stepping into the shoes of the person you're judging—just for a second. Look at things from their side. What could have pushed them to act like that? What are their relationships like? Did they deal with some heavy trauma growing up? Can you hear the fear or the struggle hidden in their words?

The more you understand the "why," the less you'll find yourself judging. And listen, that doesn't mean you're okay with what they did or that you're making excuses for them. It just means you're freeing yourself from all that negativity that does nothing but poison your own life.

Also, keep this in mind: you can't force an apology out of someone who hasn't even realized they messed up. You can try to help them see the light, or you can just walk away and let them figure it out on their own. Of course, if someone is genuinely dangerous to the people around them, you've gotta protect others from them. Period.


I get it. I don't go around judging people constantly. If I've been wronged, I eventually forgive, though I can't always do it the very second I feel hurt. I don't judge someone's entire character based on one moment. Maybe I react emotionally at first, but later I try to understand—and usually, I do.

To be honest, I can't stand judgmental people, unless they’ve actually hurt me personally. I know people who sit around criticizing absolutely everyone, but that isn't me. Still, I'm only human. I can't always see the full picture, which is why I do find myself judging sometimes.

🙂
Amanda Gonzalez66 Amanda Gonzalez66 Newcomer
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joined Feb 2014
#85 ·
Douglas Rivera6 said:I’ve already shared my thoughts on judging people, but I really just want to double down on that one sentence right above. Honestly, I'm not saying I'm judging anyone here, but man, it's just such a huge pet peeve of mine when I see people acting like that.

Amanda Gonzalez66
I totally call out anyone who lies about someone else and makes up fake stories just to make themselves look better.

Maybe I misspoken on a few things. It’s not that I’m judging, it’s just that it bugs me. But I did call it judgment. Honestly, there are just so many more things that bother me than what you're talking about here. Is it possible that I am being judgmental? Maybe. But I don't think that's the case for most of it.
Thomas Davis6 Thomas Davis6 Member
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joined Aug 2010
#86 ·
I guess I have a pretty strong distaste for behavior that just feels revolting—mostly when it comes to things that are straight-up immoral or twisted.

I can't stand hypocrisy. You know, those people who point fingers at everyone else while being just as bad, if not worse, themselves.
Injustice of any kind gets my vote too. Like people exploiting others just because they’re greedy or stingy.
The heavy stuff, too—child abuse, animal cruelty, human trafficking... all that sickness. Corruption and bribery? Yeah, I'm against all of it.
It also bugs me when people try to mask their shady motives behind some noble cause.
I suppose I find it even more aggravating when immoral behavior isn't just some irrational, animalistic impulse, but actually seems calculated and rational.
Now, I don't judge addicts, drunkards, promiscuity, or how people dress or wear makeup... as long as it isn't hurting anyone else.
To me, it's perfectly normal to condemn deviant or immoral actions. That's basically why we have judges, juries, penalties, and prisons in the US. And honestly, humans have always had this internal moral compass that pushes them to reject deviant behavior. Or, well, they should. It's just natural.
Judging something proves that humans have the capacity to tell good from bad, which doesn't necessarily mean you can't understand the reasons or motives behind that behavior.
So, yeah, I get the motivation, but I still judge. I don't see that as being hypocritical or narrow-minded at all.

P.S. Just to be fair, if someone does something to me personally, I tend to get emotional and judge them pretty harshly. I guess I end up magnifying their flaws and blowing their behavior way out of proportion, more than I usually do with others.
Anyway, I'm definitely not one of those super "tolerant" people who lets everything slide. Sometimes, I know I can be a total moralizer. Pretty often, actually.
Amanda Gonzalez66 Amanda Gonzalez66 Newcomer
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joined Feb 2014
#87 ·
Thomas Davis6 said:I guess I have a pretty strong distaste for behavior that just feels revolting—mostly when it comes to things that are straight-up immoral or twisted.

I can't stand hypocrisy. You know, those people who point fingers at everyone else while being just as bad, if not worse, themselves.
Injustice of any kind gets my vote too. Like people exploiting others just because they’re greedy or stingy.
The heavy stuff, too—child abuse, animal cruelty, human trafficking... all that sickness. Corruption and bribery? Yeah, I'm against all of it.
It also bugs me when people try to mask their shady motives behind some noble cause.
I suppose I find it even more aggravating when immoral behavior isn't just some irrational, animalistic impulse, but actually seems calculated and rational.
Now, I don't judge addicts, drunkards, promiscuity, or how people dress or wear makeup... as long as it isn't hurting anyone else.
To me, it's perfectly normal to condemn deviant or immoral actions. That's basically why we have judges, juries, penalties, and prisons in the US. And honestly, humans have always had this internal moral compass that pushes them to reject deviant behavior. Or, well, they should. It's just natural.
Judging something proves that humans have the capacity to tell good from bad, which doesn't necessarily mean you can't understand the reasons or motives behind that behavior.
So, yeah, I get the motivation, but I still judge. I don't see that as being hypocritical or narrow-minded at all.

P.S. Just to be fair, if someone does something to me personally, I tend to get emotional and judge them pretty harshly. I guess I end up magnifying their flaws and blowing their behavior way out of proportion, more than I usually do with others.
Anyway, I'm definitely not one of those super "tolerant" people who lets everything slide. Sometimes, I know I can be a total moralizer. Pretty often, actually.

I agree with you. I think most people feel this exact same way.
It isn't hypocritical. 🙂
Jeremy Palmer66 Jeremy Palmer66 Newcomer
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joined Mar 2012
#88 ·
I feel kind of silly even saying this, because I really don't want to sound like I'm judging anyone's life choices or how they handle things. I catch myself thinking about people sometimes, or I'll be talking with someone and the conversation drifts toward how some person acts, their career path, their marriage, or whatever... but at the end of the day, I always just land on this one thought: "Man, they just didn't know any better." To me, that feels like the most honest way to look at it. We’re all just out here trying our best to do what we think is right, even if we stumble along the way. Some people hit it out of the park and others don't, but everyone carries their own weight and deals with stuff nobody else sees just to make it through the day. That's why I think pointing fingers or being judgmental is honestly just... crazy...
Paul Thompson3 Paul Thompson3 Active Member
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joined Mar 2015
#89 ·
Amanda Gonzalez66 said:I agree with you. I think most people feel this exact same way.
It isn't hypocritical. 🙂

Bob, women as a whole are directly responsible for the horrific torture of little animals all over the world—all just to feed their vanity, thinking makeup makes them prettier or perfume smells better. Or at least, that's what they think.
We know the facts now, yet despite how many women have stopped wearing makeup or how many claim to buy "cruelty-free" products, nothing changes.
They don't actually care; they just love scrolling through cute animal videos online because they're "sweet" and "adorable."😉
John Martin18 John Martin18 Member
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joined Sep 2016
#90 ·
Stepping back is absolutely vital during certain initial phases. It allows you to properly assess a new situation, create some distance, or form an opinion... without that perspective, true evaluation is impossible.
Amanda Gonzalez66 Amanda Gonzalez66 Newcomer
8 messages
joined Feb 2014
#91 ·
Paul Thompson3 said:Bob, women as a whole are directly responsible for the horrific torture of little animals all over the world—all just to feed their vanity, thinking makeup makes them prettier or perfume smells better. Or at least, that's what they think.
We know the facts now, yet despite how many women have stopped wearing makeup or how many claim to buy "cruelty-free" products, nothing changes.
They don't actually care; they just love scrolling through cute animal videos online because they're "sweet" and "adorable."😉

Wow. Are you seriously judging women right now?
Just saying. 🙂
Amanda Gonzalez66 Amanda Gonzalez66 Newcomer
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joined Feb 2014
#92 ·
John Martin18 said:Stepping back is absolutely vital during certain initial phases. It allows you to properly assess a new situation, create some distance, or form an opinion... without that perspective, true evaluation is impossible.

Exactly. Everyone judges, whether they want to admit it or not. Just a month ago, I would have claimed I don't judge—in fact, I used to look down on anyone who did. But if we take a moment to be honest with ourselves, won't we realize that isn't actually true?

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