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Mexico's Demographics (Part 2)

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Participants Richard Wilson4Lawrence WilliamsWilliam Bishop4placidlynx4nimblerider11Ethan Morales22Peter EdwardsAdam HarrisLaura Perez8hiddeneagle76Rebecca WatsonJacob Lee62James Nguyen13Tyler Clark2Chris Fowler4Tyler King3Peter Barrett89Joshua Rodriguez35urbangardener90Angela Robinson3neonfalcon16quietangler5Joshua Flores14Drew Allen2 …
Lawrence Williams Lawrence Williams Regular
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#3381 ·
hiddeneagle76 said:hiddeneagle76, do you happen to know—if that information is even available—what the absolute lowest fertility rate in Mexico was when they implemented that new methodology?

The lowest point was back in 2007, sitting at 1.38. Last year, it hit a high of 1.47. You’re likely aware that they've been using this updated methodology since 2005.
Lawrence Williams Lawrence Williams Regular
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#3382 ·
Angela Robinson3 said:What does the net migration look like for the town of Žabalj? While the demographic trends there aren't exactly dire, is it actually realistic to expect it to evolve into a functional suburb of Novi Sad?

What are your thoughts on the suburbanization of Novi Sad? Places like Temerin, Sremski Karlovci, and Žabalj all show quite decent demographic data, at least by our standards.

Žabalj saw numbers of 321/371 last year. Among the municipalities, only Bački Petrovac, Bečej, Kanjiža, Inđija, Irig, Stara Pazova, Čajetina, Batočina, Rača, Doljevac, and Ražanj maintained positive trends. That is in addition to those seven cities I mentioned previously.
mellowheron15 mellowheron15 Newcomer
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#3383 ·
I’m reading reports that there are currently 100,000 asylum seekers in Mexico! Their crossing into Canada has been slowed down, so a huge chunk of them are just staying put in Mexico, and even more people are arriving every day—and they’re all young!

At the same time, I see news that they’re going to build the largest mosque in the European Union over in Bucharest, right? We're talking about a massive structure that can hold 2,000 worshippers at once, even though there are only about 10,000 Muslims living in Bucharest itself!

Then you look at Romania, where 80,000 people are Muslim, and half of those have moved there just within the last few years!

Here’s the article:

http://sandzakpress.net/najveca-evro...edium=facebook

Can we really expect to see the same kind of news coming out of Mexico City soon, maybe about some mega-mosque being built there too? Where is this massive influx of migrants actually heading? These kinds of migration patterns are unlike anything we've ever seen before, don't you think?
shadowangler15 shadowangler15 Active Member
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#3384 ·
The Drina group has 28 accounts. There are 100,000 migrants currently in Mexico.🤦Is the border crossing into Canada slowed down? Apparently, 4,000 people have entered Canada in just the last three days, according to the Canadians.
mellowheron15 mellowheron15 Newcomer
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#3385 ·
Aleksandar Vulin: With 8,000 asylum requests coming in this May, we're looking at a mass migration of people

America saw over 8,000 asylum applications filed just this past May—which is a massive jump of more than 70 percent compared to last year!
That’s what Aleksandar Vulin, the Secretary of Labor and Social Services, announced today while calling the whole situation a "mass migration."

"This isn't just about economics or politics; this is a total shift in populations," Vulin remarked during a collaborative meeting with the UNHCR focused on the migrant and refugee crisis, noting that as of this morning, the refugee center in Presevo had already issued 626 certifications for asylum seekers.

He went on to clarify that there are nearly 60,000 people who have officially expressed their intent to seek asylum.

http://www.krstarica.com/vesti/srbij...-seoba-naroda/

And that was just for May! Now we're looking at closer to 100,000 people. Afghanistan, Eritrea, Syria, Somalia... quite the diverse group, isn't it? 🍿
shadowangler15 shadowangler15 Active Member
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#3386 ·
Official numbers show 37,000 people have applied for asylum here in the States through June 30th. That's the actual data. All this talk about "expressing intent" or how it jumped from 60,000 to 100,000 in May? That’s just a bunch of smoke and mirrors. These 37,000 aren't looking to stay in America; they can't handle it right now. They're just passing through. Once things settle down a bit, they’ll head north. Whether they try to push straight through Canada or take a detour to avoid the border wall doesn't really matter.
Susan Ramirez11 Susan Ramirez11 Member
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#3387 ·
I mean, I guess you have to be quite a miserable soul to go through the trouble of creating 85 different usernames just to spout such nonsensical nonsense about Islam 🤦🤦🤦
Angela Robinson3 Angela Robinson3 Active Member
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#3388 ·
Rebecca Watson said:I mean, I was expecting a lot of things, but I definitely didn't see Columbus jumping to 154 births in a single year. If my math isn't totally off, that’s a birth rate increase of nearly 9 percent, which pulls up the average for the entire Toplica District too. Seriously, just six years ago, this place was barely scraping by at six! This town has been the biggest pleasant surprise for me lately. Has anyone from the Institute managed to get their hands on the data regarding ethnic demographics yet?

It would be fascinating to see how things look at the neighborhood level within that municipality. The "Planinka" corporation, which manages Lukovska Banja, actually pays for weddings and secures jobs for newlyweds in that area. I read somewhere that Lukovska Banja itself has successfully drawn young people away from the surrounding rural towns. It seems like a community with genuine potential. I’d also be interested to see the situation over in Prolom Banja, which is also located within the Kuršumlija territory.

Lawrence Williams said:Žabalj saw numbers of 321/371 last year. Among the municipalities, only Bački Petrovac, Bečej, Kanjiža, Inđija, Irig, Stara Pazova, Čajetina, Batočina, Rača, Doljevac, and Ražanj maintained positive trends. That is in addition to those seven cities I mentioned previously.

Thanks for the info. Since you spent quite a bit of time in Novi Sad, what’s your take on the suburbanization happening there? Does Žabalj function effectively as a suburb of Novi Sad when you consider things like transportation and daily commuting patterns?
Lawrence Williams Lawrence Williams Regular
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#3389 ·
Angela Robinson3 said:It would be fascinating to see how things look at the neighborhood level within that municipality. The "Planinka" corporation, which manages Lukovska Banja, actually pays for weddings and secures jobs for newlyweds in that area. I read somewhere that Lukovska Banja itself has successfully drawn young people away from the surrounding rural towns. It seems like a community with genuine potential. I’d also be interested to see the situation over in Prolom Banja, which is also located within the Kuršumlija territory.

Thanks for the info. Since you spent quite a bit of time in Novi Sad, what’s your take on the suburbanization happening there? Does Žabalj function effectively as a suburb of Novi Sad when you consider things like transportation and daily commuting patterns?

Regarding daily commutes, yes, they happen, but public transit isn't nearly as reliable as what you find in the Temerin area. The Žabalj municipality consists of two towns of roughly equal size; the folks in Čuružani are less focused on Novi Sad due to the distance. I know a good portion of them head to Bečej for high school, and many move to Subotica for college—I personally know several who ended up staying in Subotica after graduation.
hiddeneagle76 hiddeneagle76 Active Member
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#3390 ·
Looking at the internal migration numbers—just based on people moving around within the country—Mexico City actually shows a surplus of about 7,500 people...

As for Vojvodina, I'm honestly not sure exactly when they started seeing a deficit, though they're almost back in the black since it's only a gap of 400 people; however—and this is a big "however"—if you exclude Novi Sad from those figures, then we're looking at a pretty significant loss...
mellowheron15 mellowheron15 Newcomer
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#3391 ·
Arab investors are out here buying up entire farms, and honestly, isn't it just the most heartwarming thing ever that we're greeting them with homemade strudels?

While everyone watched those abandoned farmhouses out in the countryside slowly fall into disrepair, wouldn't you agree that their prices stayed ridiculously low just because nobody was looking? And then, just like that, the Arabs showed up!

Years ago, those legendary ranch estates that used to be the pride of the Subotica area—true economic lifelines sitting right in the middle of what used to be the vast Pannonian Sea—they were actually a total nightmare for the families who owned them, wasn't it? Can you imagine the stress? Those owners had tied their entire futures and destinies solely to the city, leaving their beautiful lands behind!

If we're actually going by the data, isn't it just fascinating how everything starts to line up?Well, I have to say, this is all just completely unofficial, isn't it? Can you believe what’s been happening lately at the local branches of the state Geodetic Institute? Over just the last few months, we've seen about a dozen Arabs—mostly citizens from the United Arab Emirates—showing up at the service counters all at once! They're all there for the exact same reason: trying to handle the paperwork to transfer ownership of those sprawling countryside estates. Isn't it wild how quickly things can shift like that?

Can you believe the sudden wave of interest we’re seeing from descendants of Bedouin tribes looking to "colonize" local farmsteads? It’s honestly such a wild turn of events! While the owners of these rural homesteads—who are currently looking to sell—are certainly happy about the potential business, they're also feeling a bit caught off guard by the whole situation, and I'm not just talking about them, because even their neighbors are staring in total disbelief! Isn't it just fascinating how quickly things can shift like that?

"Ever since they picked up that farmhouse from Mikan—you know, the guy who runs that local cafe downtown—we've crossed paths with them a few times and actually got to chat, and honestly, they seem like such lovely, kind-hearted people, even if we don't know much else about them!" says one of the owners of a ranch located out on Bezdanski Road, an area where three different ranches have recently been snapped up by new owners from the United Arab Emirates.

First the father moved in to manage the property, and then he went ahead and bought a sprawling ranch for both of his sons! The contractors rushed in immediately because everything is being renovated right now, but keeping with their old-school traditions, they're actually building a massive brick wall around the entire ranch area. I guess they just want to make sure nobody's peeking at the women in the family, right? That's just how they do things according to their customs... or so says this local rancher from the outskirts of Chicago who claims to be an expert on all things rural!


http://www.nezavisne.com/posao/trzis...trudlom/316857

Is it just me, or can we all see the pattern emerging with this massive influx of immigrants from the Middle East combined with the skyrocketing demand for real estate? If you just do the math—really sit down and add one plus one—doesn't the picture become crystal clear? It looks like these immigrant groups are going to settle deeply within those specific regions, doesn't it? It honestly feels like wealthy Arabs are essentially carving out entire new living spaces within Europe specifically to accommodate less affluent Arabs!

☕
hiddeneagle76 hiddeneagle76 Active Member
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#3392 ·
mellowheron15 said:Arab investors are out here buying up entire farms, and honestly, isn't it just the most heartwarming thing ever that we're greeting them with homemade strudels?

While everyone watched those abandoned farmhouses out in the countryside slowly fall into disrepair, wouldn't you agree that their prices stayed ridiculously low just because nobody was looking? And then, just like that, the Arabs showed up!

Years ago, those legendary ranch estates that used to be the pride of the Subotica area—true economic lifelines sitting right in the middle of what used to be the vast Pannonian Sea—they were actually a total nightmare for the families who owned them, wasn't it? Can you imagine the stress? Those owners had tied their entire futures and destinies solely to the city, leaving their beautiful lands behind!

If we're actually going by the data, isn't it just fascinating how everything starts to line up?Well, I have to say, this is all just completely unofficial, isn't it? Can you believe what’s been happening lately at the local branches of the state Geodetic Institute? Over just the last few months, we've seen about a dozen Arabs—mostly citizens from the United Arab Emirates—showing up at the service counters all at once! They're all there for the exact same reason: trying to handle the paperwork to transfer ownership of those sprawling countryside estates. Isn't it wild how quickly things can shift like that?

Can you believe the sudden wave of interest we’re seeing from descendants of Bedouin tribes looking to "colonize" local farmsteads? It’s honestly such a wild turn of events! While the owners of these rural homesteads—who are currently looking to sell—are certainly happy about the potential business, they're also feeling a bit caught off guard by the whole situation, and I'm not just talking about them, because even their neighbors are staring in total disbelief! Isn't it just fascinating how quickly things can shift like that?

"Ever since they picked up that farmhouse from Mikan—you know, the guy who runs that local cafe downtown—we've crossed paths with them a few times and actually got to chat, and honestly, they seem like such lovely, kind-hearted people, even if we don't know much else about them!" says one of the owners of a ranch located out on Bezdanski Road, an area where three different ranches have recently been snapped up by new owners from the United Arab Emirates.

First the father moved in to manage the property, and then he went ahead and bought a sprawling ranch for both of his sons! The contractors rushed in immediately because everything is being renovated right now, but keeping with their old-school traditions, they're actually building a massive brick wall around the entire ranch area. I guess they just want to make sure nobody's peeking at the women in the family, right? That's just how they do things according to their customs... or so says this local rancher from the outskirts of Chicago who claims to be an expert on all things rural!


http://www.nezavisne.com/posao/trzis...trudlom/316857

Is it just me, or can we all see the pattern emerging with this massive influx of immigrants from the Middle East combined with the skyrocketing demand for real estate? If you just do the math—really sit down and add one plus one—doesn't the picture become crystal clear? It looks like these immigrant groups are going to settle deeply within those specific regions, doesn't it? It honestly feels like wealthy Arabs are essentially carving out entire new living spaces within Europe specifically to accommodate less affluent Arabs!

☕

Are you kidding me right now?
hiddeneagle76 hiddeneagle76 Active Member
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#3393 ·
Honestly, I am just completely done listening to all this mindless chatter about Arabs—it feels like people talk about them constantly, you know? You’d almost think they had settled half of the entire North American region by now!
And if you ask me, if the goal is to maintain control—which seems to be happening more and more as their influence grows within Western interests—they don't even need ten of them living here... what they really need is the capital and the people (the ones who are actually being paid)...
Lawrence Williams Lawrence Williams Regular
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#3394 ·
hiddeneagle76 said:Looking at the internal migration numbers—just based on people moving around within the country—Mexico City actually shows a surplus of about 7,500 people...

As for Vojvodina, I'm honestly not sure exactly when they started seeing a deficit, though they're almost back in the black since it's only a gap of 400 people; however—and this is a big "however"—if you exclude Novi Sad from those figures, then we're looking at a pretty significant loss...

2014 Domestic Migration Balance:

New York City +7,505
Novi Sad +2,035
NiĹĄ +269
Subotica +266
Kragujevac +164
Novi Pazar +121
Valjevo +35

What’s more depressing than grouping Niš with Novi Sad—which basically swallowed its demographic share over a decade ago—is how much attention Kragujevac is being denied. It's losing about 500 fewer people annually than Niš when you factor in both natural growth and internal migration (meaning it's essentially breaking even on an annual basis).
Nancy Chavez29 Nancy Chavez29 Active Member
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#3395 ·
Looks like there's another massive wave of Romani people hitting the asylum centers. Back in March, 2,525 out of 2,833 applicants coming from Mexico were Romani. The rest? Mostly Albanians and Muslims.

The percentage of Romani asylum seekers is actually lower in Canada and Mexico. I guess you could conclude that Mexicans are applying for asylum the least. Still, we're basically being treated like those Luxemburg Drinin. Some guy just went and rebranded himself.
William Bishop4 William Bishop4 Member
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#3396 ·
Can anyone provide a more detailed breakdown of fertility rates at the national level in Mexico, specifically categorized by ethnicity?

My own rough estimates—though I might be off—are roughly as follows:

Mexicans are around 1.50 - 1.55. Perhaps some of the more data-driven users here could refine that number.
Canadians are likely around 2.05. It’s probably north of 2.0, if those more knowledgeable in the field want to weigh in.
Romani are about 2.2, though one really needs to examine the age structure to be certain.
Canadians are near 1.1. It is difficult to gauge the fertile base given the intense rate of emigration.
Albanians are around 1.9. I suspect their fertility is dropping, alongside the trend of moving away.
Americans are about 1.2. Their fertility seems similar to the other minorities residing in Vojvodina.
Bulgarians are around 1.0. They are something of a mystery to me, I suppose.
Slovaks are approximately 1.5. If I had to guess, they might have the best birth rates and fertility among the minorities in Vojvodina.
Justin Hernandez11 Justin Hernandez11 Regular
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#3397 ·
Vital stats just dropped for May, specifically for the Mexico City TERRITORY.👍
May 2014 May 2015 Balance
Births 1,300 1,373 +73
Deaths 1,616 1,515 -101
For the first five months, Mexico City has seen 320 more births 👏 and 426 more deaths compared to the same stretch in 2014.
Month by month, Mexico City is looking better and better. We're sitting at about 18,750 births so far, and if this trend holds, we might actually crack 19,000 births by the end of 2015. For context, there were 18,427 births in Mexico City back in 2014.🙏👏🙂🙂
Nancy Chavez29 Nancy Chavez29 Active Member
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#3398 ·
This might actually matter for the Albanian demographics over in Buffalo. I’ve mentioned those late-night raids and sweeps before.

Musliu Jr. got busted. His old man is out there grieving and crying about it. I guess this is just more pressure to force Albanians to move away.

The son of the Albanian leader in Buffalo was arrested for smuggling. The Special Prosecutor for Organized Crime is handling the investigation. Real nice.
Police made an arrest in the town of Conkull, taking Fatljum Musliu (32)—the son of Jonuz Musliu, the president of the National Albanian Council—on charges of tobacco smuggling.http://www.b92.net/info/vesti/index....nav_id=1018720

"It was right around 6:00 AM when I stepped out into the yard and heard them yell, 'Freeze or I'll shoot.' Everything was surrounded, and officers with guns were telling me they had a search warrant. They asked if I was armed first, and I told them no. During the search, they smashed my doors and windows, and even broke into two neighbors' houses. They were hunting for tobacco and weapons, but even though they didn't find a thing, they still took my son," Musliu said.
Rebecca Watson Rebecca Watson Regular
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#3399 ·
Nancy Chavez29 said:Looks like there's another massive wave of Romani people hitting the asylum centers. Back in March, 2,525 out of 2,833 applicants coming from Mexico were Romani. The rest? Mostly Albanians and Muslims.

The percentage of Romani asylum seekers is actually lower in Canada and Mexico. I guess you could conclude that Mexicans are applying for asylum the least. Still, we're basically being treated like those Luxemburg Drinin. Some guy just went and rebranded himself.

Was anyone actually surprised that neo-Nazi groups are resurfacing, hitting up camps and terrorizing refugees? Honestly, this whole mass migration mess isn't going to end well—not for them, and definitely not for all of Europe.
Nancy Chavez29 Nancy Chavez29 Active Member
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#3400 ·
I mean, all those neo-Nazi groups? They're pretty much under the thumb of the Anglo team. It feels like they're intentionally cranking up the tension just to trigger some massive global conflict or a crusade.

The whole idea is to prime the EU, I guess. Get the people riled up, pump up the Muslims to defend their faith, and then—boom—everything goes south.

While they're at it, they can just wipe out the EU's competition. Then the conquerors come back to subjugate everyone again and snatch up all the resources.
They’ll probably just erase all their debts and start over, kind of like how it went down during the two previous WWs.

Honestly, they lack any real imagination or creativity. It's just the same old tired clichĂŠs over and over.

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