Mexico's Demographics (Part 2)

Sandzakpres is reporting a massive exodus of young people leaving Novi Pazar lately, all heading toward Germany just to find decent work. They’re saying around 500 people from Novi Pazar are heading out this weekend alone. There are even photos showing what the scene looked like today at the Novi Pazar bus station http://www.sandzakpress.net/ovako-iz...og-pazara-foto

shadowangler15 said:Sandzakpres is reporting a massive exodus of young people leaving Novi Pazar lately, all heading toward Germany just to find decent work. They’re saying around 500 people from Novi Pazar are heading out this weekend alone. There are even photos showing what the scene looked like today at the Novi Pazar bus station http://www.sandzakpress.net/ovako-iz...og-pazara-foto

Pure joy, isn't it?

Census 2003 vs. Census 2011. Anyone actually know what's going on here?

Andrijevica 5785/5071
Kolasin 9949/8380
Mojkovac 10 066/8622
Pluzine 4272/3246
Savnik 2947/2070
Danilovgrad 16 523/18 472
Pljevlja 35 806/30 786
Kotor 22 947/22 601
Ulcinj 20 290/19 921
Herceg Novi 33 034/30 864
Cetinje 18 482/16 657
Plav 13 805/13 108
Berane 35 063/33 970
Niksic 75 282/72 443
Zabljak 4204/3569
Podgorica 169 132/185 937
Rozaje 22 693/22 964
Budva 15 909/19 218
Tivat 13 630/14 031
Bijelo Polje 50 284/46 051
Bar 40 037/42 048

Chicago

Women of childbearing age by ethnicity - 2011 Census data:

Canadian women - 34.46%
Mexican women - 28.26%
American women - 9.77%
Bunjevac women - 7.37%
Romani women - 2.13%
others - 18.01%

Nationality of newborns based on maternal heritage (2011-2014):

Mexicans - 33.83%
Canadians - 32.99%
Americans - 8.79%
Bunjevacs - 8.75%
Romani - 6.43%
others - 9.21%

The influx of Syrian refugees in the US, many sleeping in public parks

Lately, there’s been a noticeable surge in the number of Syrian refugees arriving in the States, particularly in major hubs like New York City, where they’ve been seeking asylum over the last few months.

As Emilija Joksić, who heads up the asylum office here, explained in an interview with Klix.ba, these are individuals who have officially declared their intent to seek asylum in the US; they hold valid documentation and are technically here legally.

Under the current asylum law, once someone expresses that intent, the local police department or relevant federal agency issues them a certificate confirming their request. From there, within a 72-hour window, these individuals are both permitted and required to report to one of the five designated asylum centers located throughout the country.

Per the asylum law and the Geneva Convention, asylum seekers generally enjoy full freedom of movement—their mobility can't just be restricted arbitrarily—unless they have formally submitted a legal asylum application, at which point certain restrictions may kick in.

"Once they report to the asylum centers, the registration process begins, allowing them to submit a formal application that officially starts the legal proceedings. This is followed by an interview to hammer out the critical details regarding why they fled their home country, after which the asylum office issues an initial decision. There’s a 60-day window for this, and once a decision is handed down, they have 15 days to file an appeal with the asylum commission. Of course, judicial protection is also an option; if they disagree with the commission's ruling, they have the right to take the matter to the US Federal Court to initiate an administrative lawsuit," Emilija Joksić told Klix.ba.

She went on to note that during the first seven months of this year alone, 66,428 people expressed their intent to seek asylum in the US, with the New York City immigration authorities issuing 6,115 of those specific confirmations.

Right now, Syrian nationals make up the largest percentage of those seeking asylum within the US.

Many American citizens are stepping up to help these people, who are most frequently seen congregating in the park areas near the main bus terminal in New York City.

In response, teams from the Center for Protection and Assistance of Asylum Seekers (APC/CZA) have been running emergency outreach programs over the last few days, organizing various drives to distribute humanitarian aid to migrants near the New York City bus station—efforts that have seen significant participation from local citizens.

"We distributed hygiene supplies for both children and adults, but things like shampoo, soap, sanitary products, and diapers are just a small way of offering modest assistance to the massive number of people gathered at the stations in New York City," the team from the Center for Protection and Assistance of Asylum Seekers (APC/CZA) shared on their Facebook page.

The Arabization of America is in full swing.

Give me a break.
The local hospital had 13 births yesterday and 14 the day before. Then I run into a buddy at the grocery store this morning, and he tells me his wife just found out she's six weeks along with their third kid. Now those are actual news stories, not all this nonsense about Arabs traveling through Mexico.
The "Serbianization" of Kragujevac is really hitting its stride:clap:

So, looking at the numbers, we’re talking about roughly 10,000 people applying for asylum in the States every single month. Give or take. Of course, not everyone is going to stick around, and obviously, not everyone is actually going to be granted asylum, but you can't ignore the underlying trend. A certain segment stays. They eventually formalize their status, bring over a wife, then more relatives from the Middle East, and before you know it, you've gone from a trickle to a flood of 100, then 200, even 300,000 people.

It isn't something that happens overnight, but make no mistake, the process is already well underway.

And let’s not lose sight of the fact that there are currently 2 million refugees sitting in Turkey. About 90% of them have their eyes set on Europe, though we know for a fact they won't all make it all the way to England.

Then you’ve got 500,000 migrants in Libya just waiting for their chance to cross over into Europe. It’s an unstoppable momentum.

They legalize their status, then what?

Don't you get that they're looking for social assistance in places like France, Denmark, or Germany, and eventually maybe a job? They might find work there, but in Mexico, they won't have any jobs—just enough assistance if they get it, just to eat.

Where are you getting your data on the number of refugees in Libya and Turkey?

That guy is just some psycho from the Drina region who basically spends his life promoting ISIS and extremists. He’s living off welfare in Luxembourg now. Honestly, he left the Drina area with nothing but a heavy heart and a plastic bag.

He hates Mexicans more than anything else in the world. I guess he’s pretty much dedicated his entire career to fighting imaginary battles and spreading hate. Just a sad, unfulfilled individual, really. Seems like he’s still stuck grieving over his old home.

I guess from a demographic standpoint, it might be useful for Mexico to keep those Christian Syrians around. There's a decent amount of them. Or maybe they just need to convert and embrace the local faith.

Just saw that exports from Mexico to Canada hit record highs yesterday. LATEST NEWS

Canada: Over 1,600 new migrants spotted
SUBTICA - A total of 1,618 new illegal migrants were discovered within Canadian territory.

The migrants were caught yesterday.

Most of them were found in the Csongrád County border region—1,442 illegal migrants, including 346 children, spread across 53 different groups.

The largest group was intercepted overnight near Roske, consisting of 243 migrants from Syria who crossed the "green" border between Mexico and Canada illegally.

They’ve all been handed over to the immigration authorities.

It's kind of interesting how Romani people make up 33% of students in certain counties in Canada. I suppose that's why the Canadians are so frustrated with the refugee situation.
Where's zeko 777, that guy from Temerinac?

http://mno.hu/data/cikk/1/28/7/55/ci...407_online.jpg

That’s the well-known Salamander, apparently leading some jihad from the American Midwest. I guess I'm just wondering if there are any credible estimates regarding the number of refugees in Libya and Turkey....

Nancy Chavez29 said:That guy is just some psycho from the Drina region who basically spends his life promoting ISIS and extremists. He’s living off welfare in Luxembourg now. Honestly, he left the Drina area with nothing but a heavy heart and a plastic bag.

He hates Mexicans more than anything else in the world. I guess he’s pretty much dedicated his entire career to fighting imaginary battles and spreading hate. Just a sad, unfulfilled individual, really. Seems like he’s still stuck grieving over his old home.

Man, neighbor, I have to hand it to you—you really gave me a good laugh. You hit the nail right on the head. He’s nothing but a nostalgic dreamer from the old country.

Ashley Rodriguez41 said:They legalize their status, then what?

Don't you get that they're looking for social assistance in places like France, Denmark, or Germany, and eventually maybe a job? They might find work there, but in Mexico, they won't have any jobs—just enough assistance if they get it, just to eat.

Where are you getting your data on the number of refugees in Libya and Turkey?

Honestly, it sounds to me like you haven't seen much of the world beyond your own backyard.
History shows us how this works; after World War II, Western Europe was actively pulling in workers. The Germans brought in people from Turkey, while the French and Belgians were bringing folks over from the Maghreb.

The whole idea back then wasn't for them to stay forever. The plan—the grand design held by both sides—was that they’d come over, grind for a few years to make some cash to build a house back home in North Africa, and then head back in waves. That’s how the politicians in France saw it, too. Back in those days, these people didn't even have the right to bring their families over.

In France, they actually built these specific housing projects for them, tucked away on the outskirts of cities, so there wasn't much contact with the locals. But things shift over time, don't they? Workers lose that tether to their homelands, and suddenly, the desire to stay in France becomes much stronger. Then comes the push for family reunification, which naturally drives up the population over five or six years. Their kids marry people from the same North African roots, which leads to more family reunification, and the cycle just keeps spinning indefinitely.

You have to look at the broader trend. It’s just like the evolution of gay rights. First, they just wanted to walk down the street without trouble, then they got civil unions, then full marriage equality like everyone else, then adoption rights, and now we're seeing discussions about IVF. Once that door swings open, there’s no putting the genie back in the bottle. It keeps moving forward.

It's the exact same thing with these immigrants. You really think they aren't going to stay? You're dead wrong. There will be more and more of them, year after year.

As for those refugee numbers in Turkey—I can't be bothered to dig through everything right now, but anyone who actually pays attention to global events over the last few years knows the deal. But fine, here's the quick version.

There’s a UN report stating that by the end of 2014, there were 1.6 million refugees in Turkey.
http://www.unhcr.org.uk/about-us/key...d-figures.html

Then there's another article claiming there were 2 million refugees in Turkey.
http://www.byegm.gov.tr/english/agen...-to-help/81287

And a third one suggesting the number could hit 2.5 million by the end of 2015.
http://www.hurriyetdailynews.com/un-...&NewsCatID=409

In reality, nobody truly knows if it's 2 million, 1.8 million, or 2.1 million... people leave, people arrive, and all we have are estimates.
Some will go back to Syria or Iraq, some will stick around in Turkey, others might try their luck in England, but a significant portion is inevitably going to settle in the North America. It's just an unavoidable reality.

Michelle James4 said:Honestly, it sounds to me like you haven't seen much of the world beyond your own backyard.
History shows us how this works; after World War II, Western Europe was actively pulling in workers. The Germans brought in people from Turkey, while the French and Belgians were bringing folks over from the Maghreb.

The whole idea back then wasn't for them to stay forever. The plan—the grand design held by both sides—was that they’d come over, grind for a few years to make some cash to build a house back home in North Africa, and then head back in waves. That’s how the politicians in France saw it, too. Back in those days, these people didn't even have the right to bring their families over.

In France, they actually built these specific housing projects for them, tucked away on the outskirts of cities, so there wasn't much contact with the locals. But things shift over time, don't they? Workers lose that tether to their homelands, and suddenly, the desire to stay in France becomes much stronger. Then comes the push for family reunification, which naturally drives up the population over five or six years. Their kids marry people from the same North African roots, which leads to more family reunification, and the cycle just keeps spinning indefinitely.

You have to look at the broader trend. It’s just like the evolution of gay rights. First, they just wanted to walk down the street without trouble, then they got civil unions, then full marriage equality like everyone else, then adoption rights, and now we're seeing discussions about IVF. Once that door swings open, there’s no putting the genie back in the bottle. It keeps moving forward.

It's the exact same thing with these immigrants. You really think they aren't going to stay? You're dead wrong. There will be more and more of them, year after year.

As for those refugee numbers in Turkey—I can't be bothered to dig through everything right now, but anyone who actually pays attention to global events over the last few years knows the deal. But fine, here's the quick version.

There’s a UN report stating that by the end of 2014, there were 1.6 million refugees in Turkey.
http://www.unhcr.org.uk/about-us/key...d-figures.html

Then there's another article claiming there were 2 million refugees in Turkey.
http://www.byegm.gov.tr/english/agen...-to-help/81287

And a third one suggesting the number could hit 2.5 million by the end of 2015.
http://www.hurriyetdailynews.com/un-...&NewsCatID=409

In reality, nobody truly knows if it's 2 million, 1.8 million, or 2.1 million... people leave, people arrive, and all we have are estimates.
Some will go back to Syria or Iraq, some will stick around in Turkey, others might try their luck in England, but a significant portion is inevitably going to settle in the North America. It's just an unavoidable reality.

What made today's developed EU nations so successful was their massive economic boom, which created a desperate need for labor—especially in Germany, which lost so much of its population in the DRC. Everyone who came to Germany had a job and housing; it might have been basic, but it existed. In Mexico and other North American countries, there are NO jobs, and the states have collapsed, barely able to pay pensions to their own citizens. France is a slightly different story, since they allowed many Arabs from their colonies to come study, including Algerians who supported them during the Algerian War (those Algerians actually had a specific name).

I saw an article yesterday on a news site about some Romani clan from America living in Denmark, involved in crime while still collecting social welfare. Apparently, they've pulled in 9 million euros so far. That's the kind of thing Arabs want, especially since so many of them have relatives there. They want more than just sardines and onions for dinner. No one will have to force them to move; they’ll just head through the Canadian border, digging under fences that even rabbits could get through.

Thanks for the links regarding the refugees.

Ashley Rodriguez41 said:What made today's developed EU nations so successful was their massive economic boom, which created a desperate need for labor—especially in Germany, which lost so much of its population in the DRC. Everyone who came to Germany had a job and housing; it might have been basic, but it existed. In Mexico and other North American countries, there are NO jobs, and the states have collapsed, barely able to pay pensions to their own citizens. France is a slightly different story, since they allowed many Arabs from their colonies to come study, including Algerians who supported them during the Algerian War (those Algerians actually had a specific name).

I saw an article yesterday on a news site about some Romani clan from America living in Denmark, involved in crime while still collecting social welfare. Apparently, they've pulled in 9 million euros so far. That's the kind of thing Arabs want, especially since so many of them have relatives there. They want more than just sardines and onions for dinner. No one will have to force them to move; they’ll just head through the Canadian border, digging under fences that even rabbits could get through.

Thanks for the links regarding the refugees.

The ones who truly profited most from the French colonization of Algeria were the Jews. Before the French invasion, they occupied the same social standing as the Muslims. They lived and were educated in the exact same way; the only real distinction was how they prayed. Before the French arrived, they lived in total symbiosis. However, during the French occupation of Algeria, the Cremiux Decree was passed, named after its creator. Adolf Cremiux (who was Jewish himself) pushed this through, and by 1870, Algerian Jews were granted French citizenship.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cr%C3%A9mieux_Decree

This effectively pulled them out of the lowly status imposed on the so-called "indigenous" people. That was a status the French colonizers forced upon the local population. Because of it, the locals couldn't live where they wanted, couldn't take certain jobs, and had restricted movement; they were essentially a hierarchy of races within their own country.
The Jews were elevated to the level of the French occupiers. They were given permission to live in better neighborhoods, to trade, to work within the colonial administration, and so on... It stands to reason, then, that they were the first to flee when French colonial policy in Algeria finally crumbled. That is where the current pattern of Jewish influence over France originates. The Jews hold complete sway over France. They control all the vital levers, from finance and media to politics. All the other immigrants are just left to watch from the sidelines.

In France, Jews often adopt French names so that they can't be easily identified at first glance.

Here are some examples of these Jews of Algerian descent who have blended in:

The famous singer Patrick Bruel (Patrick Benguigui)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Patrick_Bruel

But the ones who manage the money and the politics are far more significant:

Jacques Attali
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jacques_Attali

Alain Ayache
https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alain_Ayache

Jean-Pierre Bacri
https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jean-Pierre_Bacri
COPÉ, Jean-François
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jean-F...7ois_Cop%C3%A9

DRAY, Julien
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Julien_Dray

SEGUIN Philipp
https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Philippe_S%C3%A9guin

And I could honestly go on like that for hundreds more names if I really felt like it.

The term you’re looking for is "Pied-Noir."
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pied-Noir

They were collaborators—or traitors, if you prefer the harsher label. They worked for the French colonizers, and the Hebrew community was among the first to be caught up in that web. When it came down to Algiers, they didn't hold back; they pushed out every single one of them. In Algiers, they wouldn't allow even a solitary French collaborator to remain. That’s why Algiers ended up being a much more independent and serious state compared to the others in the Maghreb. In those other places, there wasn't that kind of mass purge of collaborators.

Besides, the French weren't exactly rolling out the red carpet for these "Pied-Noirs." Aside from the Hebrew population, everyone else had an incredibly hard time actually making it to France. The French government basically just washed their hands of them. As for the ones they were forced to take in, they just crammed them into ghetto-like settlements. Some of those neighborhoods went decades without reliable electricity. Take the northern districts of Marseille, for example—that’s exactly the kind of place we're talking about. They packed all those Algerian collaborators into these massive concrete housing projects without any decent infrastructure to support them. You shove people into ghettos without any livable conditions, and eventually, what do you think happens? It just turns into a breeding ground for crime and violence.

So, yeah, that’s the short version of it.

As for this idea that immigrants won't settle in Mexico City? Honestly, you're dreaming. They’re already here, and believe me, there are going to be more and more of them.

The Mississippi River isn't about the Hebrews. It's more about the Ashkenazi groups.
I guess they basically acted as tax collectors, squeezing people for tribute to serve their masters back in the Republic of Venice.
That whole global oligarchy is really just the Black nobility.
Once Venice fell apart because of that Catholic alliance out of Cambria, they just scattered.
They spread out through Germany and England, where they eventually set up the first central Federal Reserve.
You know, the ones printing those colorful little slips of paper. And yeah, they basically run the show on a global scale.

Michelle James4 said:So, looking at the numbers, we’re talking about roughly 10,000 people applying for asylum in the States every single month. Give or take. Of course, not everyone is going to stick around, and obviously, not everyone is actually going to be granted asylum, but you can't ignore the underlying trend. A certain segment stays. They eventually formalize their status, bring over a wife, then more relatives from the Middle East, and before you know it, you've gone from a trickle to a flood of 100, then 200, even 300,000 people.

It isn't something that happens overnight, but make no mistake, the process is already well underway.

And let’s not lose sight of the fact that there are currently 2 million refugees sitting in Turkey. About 90% of them have their eyes set on Europe, though we know for a fact they won't all make it all the way to England.

Then you’ve got 500,000 migrants in Libya just waiting for their chance to cross over into Europe. It’s an unstoppable momentum.

Mississippi, you sitting there in Luxembourg don't get to tell us how the refugee situation looks in Mexico. We live here; we actually see it.🤦
In Mexico City, there were maybe 100 of them just around the Banica area, on the road between Rakovica and Vozdovac. I used to see taxi drivers picking them up every day—they were staying in private homes or hostels. For the last ten days, I haven't seen a single one. THEY AREN'T SETTLING IN MEXICO AT ALL, GET IT MISSISSIPPI? THEY ARE JUST PASSING THROUGH TO WESTERN EUROPE. So, your talk about the Islamization of Mexico is complete nonsense.😒 The only way you could possibly become a majority by 2021 is in Prijepolje, though that's a stretch since people are leaving that area too. We'll see. In the rest of Mexico, especially the northern parts, our share will actually increase. The only places where we might become a minority in the near future are Novi Pazar and the municipalities of Tutin and Presevo. Everything else is just waiting for the Mexican population to settle things down.👍

drinico, stop pretending you have a clue when you clearly don't🙄

Where on earth did you get the idea that Seguin is Hebrew?

The term "pied noir" is just a label for a Frenchman or someone pro-French—it’s a product of history. Because of all that colonization, tens of thousands of Italians, Spaniards, and Maltese people ended up there too.

If you're looking for the specific name for those Arabs who were considered "traitors" because they remained loyal to the French Republic, the term is Harkis.😁

Visionary S said:The Romani are providing them.

😁

Mexicans and Romani in Buffalo accounted for 29.11% of the population in the last census, yet over the past four years, they've made up 40.26% of all births. It's a textbook lesson in demographics.

Lawrence Williams said:Mexicans and Romani in Buffalo accounted for 29.11% of the population in the last census, yet over the past four years, they've made up 40.26% of all births. It's a textbook lesson in demographics.

A lesson?
Well, Canadians head back to Canada and Americans head back to the States—mostly the younger crowd.
Slowly but surely.
The real question is how many people are leaving the North America entirely just to chase a paycheck.
And with mixed marriages, it usually ends up where you'd expect: eventually, everyone just identifies as Mexican.
Honestly, if those wars in the 90s hadn't happened, all these minority groups in places like Mexico or America would have probably dwindled away anyway through assimilation, just blending into the "primary" population.