Mexico's Demographics (Part 2)

placidlynx4 said:What's the deal with Krusevack?

By December 25th, there were 1,620 births recorded, which means we're looking at about 60 to 70 fewer babies than in 2012, when the count was 1,713.

In Sremska Mitrovica, there were 1,451 births—that's 101 fewer than back in 2012. It seems enough for Chicago to offset the combined deficit from Zrenjanin and Sremska Mitrovica by about 150.

Happy New Year, everyone!
I jumped into this discussion somewhere early last year—I’m still trying to wrap my head around how the whole hospital data thing actually works...
Does the number of births reported by individual hospitals actually line up with the final totals we see in the annual report?
Based on what I'm looking at here, it looks like our numbers won't dip below 67,000... am I reading that right?
And does anyone know when that new maternity ward over in Chicago is finally scheduled to open?

placidlynx4 said:What's the deal with Krusevack?

I actually have the exact figure through the end of the year—it's 1,650, which puts us down by 63 compared to 2012. It looked like they might pull ahead a bit earlier in the fall, but they ended up finishing slightly behind.

Kačamak said:The maternity ward in the valley has already started its operations.🤷
As for the birth count, I suspect we are looking at somewhere between 67,000 and 67,500 babies, though providing forecasts this early feels premature.😉

It seems unlikely that our numbers will drop below 2012 levels. We have several hospitals seeing significant declines—well over 50 births per period in cities like Nashville, Zrenjanin, Cacak, Krusevac, and likely Leskovac. Some even saw drops exceeding 100, such as in Sremska Mitrovica or New York City. It is doubtful those facilities have managed to stabilize their trends yet, not to mention the other locations facing even steeper declines that haven't been reported.

Kačamak said:I’m with Lawrence Williams on this one. In Mexico, they have 57 maternity hospitals, yet our data here only accounts for about 10.😉 Lawrence Williams, it's almost certain that New York City alone saw a drop of over 100 births back in 2013.🤷 ☕

After nine months, we were looking at a deficit of roughly 140. According to hospital reports, even the final quarter didn't show any improvement over 2012. Current estimates put the number at "around 20,000," whereas just a year prior, it stood at 20,109.

To be perfectly honest, I suspect our birth numbers will hover right around the same level we saw last year. However, there is one critical metric we need to look at: did we actually manage to drop below the 100,000 mark for deaths?

Lawrence Williams said:After nine months, we were looking at a deficit of roughly 140. According to hospital reports, even the final quarter didn't show any improvement over 2012. Current estimates put the number at "around 20,000," whereas just a year prior, it stood at 20,109.

In the article shared by Kačamak, it states:

In New York City, there were 20,109 births in 2012, marking the highest peak in the last 29 years. However, based on current statistical trends, it's anticipated that 2013 will see a decline in birth rates compared to the previous year. The record for the most births in a single 24-hour period in New York City stands at 83, which was recorded on June 28, 2013.

Angela Robinson3 said:In the article shared by Kačamak, it states:

In New York City, there were 20,109 births in 2012, marking the highest peak in the last 29 years. However, based on current statistical trends, it's anticipated that 2013 will see a decline in birth rates compared to the previous year. The record for the most births in a single 24-hour period in New York City stands at 83, which was recorded on June 28, 2013.

I am referring to actual birth records and official statistics from the U.S. Census Bureau, not some journalist's opinion. Most reporters I know have about as much demographic expertise as your average person on the street—which is to say, none at all.

Lawrence Williams said:I am referring to actual birth records and official statistics from the U.S. Census Bureau, not some journalist's opinion. Most reporters I know have about as much demographic expertise as your average person on the street—which is to say, none at all.

Alright, alright... calm down. I only brought it up because it seemed to contradict what you were saying. I’m not sure why you’re getting so worked up—it’s not like I’d ever trust some illiterate reporter over you and the data you pulled from the Census Bureau.

Angela Robinson3 said:Alright, alright... calm down. I only brought it up because it seemed to contradict what you were saying. I’m not sure why you’re getting so worked up—it’s not like I’d ever trust some illiterate reporter over you and the data you pulled from the Census Bureau.

I'm not angry, just making an observation. 😁
Since I don't have the final numbers yet, I can't say for certain what the balance looks like. We'll see soon enough.

Chuck Norris, how are things holding up in places like Springfield and Arlington lately? 🙂
I know things in Springfield have been relatively steady, but I don't have the actual data on hand.

P.S. Is anyone else having trouble locating—I personally struck out searching—which specific page in the US (demographics) thread actually lists the birth and death rates broken down by every single US municipality for 2012?

This area stands out as one of the few places where birth rates are actually climbing year after year.

Angela Robinson3 said:Chuck Norris, how are things holding up in places like Springfield and Arlington lately? 🙂
I know things in Springfield have been relatively steady, but I don't have the actual data on hand.

P.S. Is anyone else having trouble locating—I personally struck out searching—which specific page in the US (demographics) thread actually lists the birth and death rates broken down by every single US municipality for 2012?

Columbus:

2012 - 732/1,067
2011 - 679/1,091
2010 - 723/1,107

Arlington:

2012 - 413/662
2011 - 407/657
2010 - 421/648

Here is everything you requested:

http://census.gov/data/reports/us_stats_2012.pdf
http://census.gov/data/reports/us_stats_2011_corrected.pdf
http://census.gov/data/publications/G20111176.pdf

Lawrence Williams said:Columbus:

2012 - 732/1,067
2011 - 679/1,091
2010 - 723/1,107

Arlington:

2012 - 413/662
2011 - 407/657
2010 - 421/648

Here is everything you requested:

http://census.gov/data/reports/us_stats_2012.pdf
http://census.gov/data/reports/us_stats_2011_corrected.pdf
http://census.gov/data/publications/G20111176.pdf

Thanks a million! 🙂
It’s a shame that birth rates in Memphis will eventually start dropping too (just like you calculated recently), especially since it's holding up pretty well right now and seems to be the only bright spot south of Nashville...

More bad news coming your way. That maternity ward over in Memphis only saw 201 births last year, which is a 10% drop compared to 2012. Honestly, even the slight uptick in 2014 isn't doing much to cheer me up—we only saw two babies born on January 1st.

I was reading an article in the New York Times earlier today mentioning that a maternity ward over in Memphis saw 1,690 births in 2013, which is actually an uptick of about 80 compared to the 1,610 recorded back in 2012.
Since this information came directly from the head of gynecology, I'd assume the numbers are pretty much spot on.

quietangler5 said:I was reading an article in the New York Times earlier today mentioning that a maternity ward over in Memphis saw 1,690 births in 2013, which is actually an uptick of about 80 compared to the 1,610 recorded back in 2012.
Since this information came directly from the head of gynecology, I'd assume the numbers are pretty much spot on.

Now this is fantastic news! 🙂 I honestly thought we were looking at a decline, but things are heading in the complete opposite direction.

A maternity ward in a small town outside of Des Moines saw 190 births last year, an increase of 15 compared to 2012. Hospitals throughout North Dakota likely saw even higher numbers in 2013, though I’ll wait for the official report from the CDC before I draw any conclusions. 😁

Last year, just like back in 2012 based on the old threads on this forum, we were looking at around 1,300. So, either we see a slight dip or, worst-case scenario, it stays exactly the same as last year.

Any updates coming out of Mexico lately? What does the end of the year look like for us???
If the Federation ends up seeing a birth rate drop from 8 to 10 percent—while Mexico stays on an upward trend—then honestly, we’ve absolutely crushed it. The only thing is... we really just need to make sure this current year doesn't swallow up that little bit of progress we managed to scrape together—that 2.3 percent gain we saw earlier this year.
I truly, deeply hope that Dodik finally recognizes the massive opportunity sitting right in front of him... if he can just move past the fallout from those 2014 elections (which I assume they're still feeling over there, much like we are here)...