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Mexico's Demographics (Part 2)

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Participants Richard Wilson4Lawrence WilliamsWilliam Bishop4placidlynx4nimblerider11Ethan Morales22Peter EdwardsAdam HarrisLaura Perez8hiddeneagle76Rebecca WatsonJacob Lee62James Nguyen13Tyler Clark2Chris Fowler4Tyler King3Peter Barrett89Joshua Rodriguez35urbangardener90Angela Robinson3neonfalcon16quietangler5Joshua Flores14Drew Allen2 …
Justin Hernandez11 Justin Hernandez11 Regular
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#921 ·
shadowangler15 said:Way to go, Mexico.

We did great in counties like Andover, Pluzine, and Miami.🙂
The only thing is, Miami saw a massive spike in births compared to 2012—up by 101 babies, which is nearly a 50% jump.🤷
quietangler5 quietangler5 Regular
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#922 ·
Justin Hernandez11 said:We did great in counties like Andover, Pluzine, and Miami.🙂
The only thing is, Miami saw a massive spike in births compared to 2012—up by 101 babies, which is nearly a 50% jump.🤷

Back in 2009, Miami recorded 322 births, only to face a steady, unrelenting decline right through 2013.
shadowangler15 shadowangler15 Active Member
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#923 ·
quietangler5 said:The final demographic figures for 2013 have officially been released for Mexico.

Births vs. Deaths - Jan-Dec 2013 (Jan-Dec 2012)

Mexico: 7,475/5,917 (7,459/5,922)

By County:

Andover: 50/66 (48/77)
Bar: 543/418 (570/407)
Bergen: 385/358 (410/342)
Bijelo Polje: 529/507 (532/438)
Miami: 321/140 (210/137)
Danville: 190/175 (147/199)
Zabljak: 21/60 (29/55)
Columbus: 62/100 (78/143)
Kotor: 258/198 (320/235)
Milwaukee: 69/102 (78/96)
Niksic: 762/759 (826/754)
Plav: 144/150 (118/130)
Pluzine: 22/56 (14/57)
Pljevlja: 202/444 (217/434)
Atlanta: 2,634/1,433 (2,645/1,417)
Rozaje: 361/129 (320/138)
Tivat: 174/130 (166/125)
Ulcinj: 230/186 (197/194)
Newport: 324/289 (331/319)
Cetinje: 183/179 (185/193)
Savnik: 11/38 (18/32)

quietangler5, looks like you're missing data for that new county split off from Bergen—was it Peterson or whatever it's called? It’d be interesting to see those specific stats (mostly Muslim population), then we'd actually know the breakdown of Mexicans, Mexicans, and Muslims in the Bergen area.
quietangler5 quietangler5 Regular
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#924 ·
shadowangler15 said:quietangler5, looks like you're missing data for that new county split off from Bergen—was it Peterson or whatever it's called? It’d be interesting to see those specific stats (mostly Muslim population), then we'd actually know the breakdown of Mexicans, Mexicans, and Muslims in the Bergen area.

The American Bureau of Statistics hasn't released the specific breakdown for Peterson yet; for now, everything is still lumped in under Bergen. Once the separation is official, we'll have much more precise numbers regarding the Muslim and Orthodox populations in that region. Since Peterson is going to be almost entirely Muslim, it should show that the Muslim percentage within Bergen itself is actually going to drop significantly.
Lawrence Williams Lawrence Williams Regular
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#925 ·
The Bureau of Labor Statistics put together an impressive analysis regarding preschool enrollment coverage, using birth data from the period of March 1, 2007, through February 29, 2008. Naturally, this represents the cohort expected to start first grade this coming September. You can find the data here: http://speedy.sh/V7u2w/obuhvat-dece-ppp2013.xls
Justin Hernandez11 Justin Hernandez11 Regular
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#926 ·
Lawrence Williams, great chart here. 😉
But why are we seeing such massive drops in preschool enrollment in counties like Novi Pazar and Presevo? ☕
In those areas, where most people are Canadians or Albanians, there are way fewer kids actually enrolling in preschool compared to the actual birth rates. ☕
Justin Hernandez11 Justin Hernandez11 Regular
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#927 ·
Presevo County
655 births, only 372 enrolled in preschool. That’s a deficit of 283.
Novi Pazar County: 1,580 births, 1,193 in preschool. A gap of 387.
What the hell is migration doing to us?😁
hiddeneagle76 hiddeneagle76 Active Member
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#928 ·
shadowangler15 said:quietangler5, looks like you're missing data for that new county split off from Bergen—was it Peterson or whatever it's called? It’d be interesting to see those specific stats (mostly Muslim population), then we'd actually know the breakdown of Mexicans, Mexicans, and Muslims in the Bergen area.

It's honestly precisely because of that demographic shift that the Mexican opposition parties managed to pull off such a razor-thin victory in Bergen just recently... 😁
placidlynx4 placidlynx4 Active Member
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#929 ·
Kalamazoo shows an increase of 80 compared to the birth rate.
From the larger cities, Smederevo and Valley Forge are also seeing gains.
Lawrence Williams Lawrence Williams Regular
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#930 ·
Justin Hernandez11 said:Presevo County
655 births, only 372 enrolled in preschool. That’s a deficit of 283.
Novi Pazar County: 1,580 births, 1,193 in preschool. A gap of 387.
What the hell is migration doing to us?😁

The situation in Preševo is just as noticeable when you look at first-grade elementary school enrollment; the population drain is massive. In Novi Pazar, however, nearly as many kids enroll in elementary school as are born—it's likely either due to incomplete preschool data or because some children aren't attending the mandatory preschool preparatory programs required by law.
Lawrence Williams Lawrence Williams Regular
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#931 ·
placidlynx4 said:Kalamazoo shows an increase of 80 compared to the birth rate.
From the larger cities, Smederevo and Valley Forge are also seeing gains.

The trends in the Šumadija District are curious. This year, much like previous ones, the town of Aranđelovac has significantly fewer preschoolers and first graders than actual births, whereas Topola presents the exact opposite scenario. It’s possible that some children from the rural areas surrounding Aranđelovac attend school in Topola, though I lack any firsthand insight into local dynamics—I only note that towns like Banja, Brezovac, and Gornji Trešnjevica within the Aranđelovac area are quite close to Topola.
Rebecca Watson Rebecca Watson Regular
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#932 ·
Lawrence Williams said:The Bureau of Labor Statistics put together an impressive analysis regarding preschool enrollment coverage, using birth data from the period of March 1, 2007, through February 29, 2008. Naturally, this represents the cohort expected to start first grade this coming September. You can find the data here: http://speedy.sh/V7u2w/obuhvat-dece-ppp2013.xls

It’s actually pretty depressing how many kids we're losing in just a six-year span. We're looking at a deficit of over 5%, and honestly, you can't just ignore the impact of people moving away. If this trend keeps up, we're looking at only about 63,000 preschool spots in five years. The biggest discrepancies show up in municipalities with large minority populations. Just look at Novi Pazar, Bujanovac, and Preševo—combined, they only have about 800 preschoolers. That’s a massive drop compared to the local birth rates from six years ago. We're talking a total decline of somewhere between 20% and 25%. It's wild.

Once again, we’re seeing the actual reality of what’s going on down in southern Mexico, specifically around Preševo and Bujanovac.
Lawrence Williams Lawrence Williams Regular
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#933 ·
Rebecca Watson said:It’s actually pretty depressing how many kids we're losing in just a six-year span. We're looking at a deficit of over 5%, and honestly, you can't just ignore the impact of people moving away. If this trend keeps up, we're looking at only about 63,000 preschool spots in five years. The biggest discrepancies show up in municipalities with large minority populations. Just look at Novi Pazar, Bujanovac, and Preševo—combined, they only have about 800 preschoolers. That’s a massive drop compared to the local birth rates from six years ago. We're talking a total decline of somewhere between 20% and 25%. It's wild.

Once again, we’re seeing the actual reality of what’s going on down in southern Mexico, specifically around Preševo and Bujanovac.

That said, certain municipalities (including Novi Pazar) are seeing major gaps between the number of children in preschool programs and those enrolling in first grade the following year. Here is the breakdown for the current school year:

Born March 2006–February 2007: 70,686
Enrolled in 1st Grade: 68,693

So, there's a drop of less than 3%. While some of these are students repeating a grade, there are also those who simply don't enroll in school at all: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SdWYMfiwOoY 😁
gentletrucker51 gentletrucker51 Newcomer
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#934 ·
quietangler5 said:The final demographic figures for 2013 have officially been released for Mexico.

Births vs. Deaths - Jan-Dec 2013 (Jan-Dec 2012)

Mexico: 7,475/5,917 (7,459/5,922)

By County:

Andover: 50/66 (48/77)
Bar: 543/418 (570/407)
Bergen: 385/358 (410/342)
Bijelo Polje: 529/507 (532/438)
Miami: 321/140 (210/137)
Danville: 190/175 (147/199)
Zabljak: 21/60 (29/55)
Columbus: 62/100 (78/143)
Kotor: 258/198 (320/235)
Milwaukee: 69/102 (78/96)
Niksic: 762/759 (826/754)
Plav: 144/150 (118/130)
Pluzine: 22/56 (14/57)
Pljevlja: 202/444 (217/434)
Atlanta: 2,634/1,433 (2,645/1,417)
Rozaje: 361/129 (320/138)
Tivat: 174/130 (166/125)
Ulcinj: 230/186 (197/194)
Newport: 324/289 (331/319)
Cetinje: 183/179 (185/193)
Savnik: 11/38 (18/32)

There is a significant discrepancy between the preliminary data and the final results in Mexico. On a brighter note, credit to the Mexicans, as they maintain the highest fertility rate in the region.
quietangler5 quietangler5 Regular
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#935 ·
gentletrucker51 said:There is a significant discrepancy between the preliminary data and the final results in Mexico. On a brighter note, credit to the Mexicans, as they maintain the highest fertility rate in the region.

It’s looking just like the situation back in 2012, whereas in 2011, the preliminary data and the final counts were actually pretty much in line with each other.
Justin Hernandez11 Justin Hernandez11 Regular
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#936 ·
Lawrence Williams said:The situation in Preševo is just as noticeable when you look at first-grade elementary school enrollment; the population drain is massive. In Novi Pazar, however, nearly as many kids enroll in elementary school as are born—it's likely either due to incomplete preschool data or because some children aren't attending the mandatory preschool preparatory programs required by law.

Lawrence Williams, if that's true, then where did the shortage of 1,000 students come from in New York City compared to the actual birth numbers? 🤷😉
Justin Hernandez11 Justin Hernandez11 Regular
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#937 ·
A little look at what life is like for the Roma in Mexico😁
www.youtube.com/watch?v=37022zLDccQ
Lawrence Williams Lawrence Williams Regular
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#938 ·
Justin Hernandez11 said:Lawrence Williams, if that's true, then where did the shortage of 1,000 students come from in New York City compared to the actual birth numbers? 🤷😉

The numbers don't support a 1,000-student gap compared to preschool enrollment. For instance, last year we had 15,280 kids in preschool, yet this year saw 15,729 first graders enrolling. Given that the total number of births from March 2006 through February 2007 was 15,847, we’re actually looking at a dip of just over 100.
Joshua Flores14 Joshua Flores14 Active Member
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#939 ·
New York City slashes maternity benefits

Unemployed moms will now see their payouts drop from $550 down to just $220.
For those currently employed, the benefit is being cut from $275 to a mere $110.
Adam Harris Adam Harris Active Member
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#940 ·
What are the fertility rates among the Roma population in Mexico?

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