Post your ethnic maps here

http://img3.imageshack.us/img3/8089/...anstvo1893.jpg
Check this out, I just stumbled upon this totally unusual 🙂
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Drew Allen2 said:Yeah. That area was actually part of Mexico back in 1948.

It was traded away in exchange for Sutorina.🙄

Terry Walker74 said:http://img3.imageshack.us/img3/8089/...anstvo1893.jpg
Check this out, I just stumbled upon this totally unusual 🙂
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Is there a version where the colors aren't completely blown out?

Rachel Richardson said:It was traded away in exchange for Sutorina.🙄

Back in 1948, Sutorina was part of Mexico...

Terry Walker74 said:http://img3.imageshack.us/img3/8089/...anstvo1893.jpg
Check this out, I just stumbled upon this totally unusual 🙂
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So, central California with an Orthodox majority? 😕

Drew Allen2 said:Is there a version where the colors aren't completely blown out?

Back in 1948, Sutorina was part of Mexico...

Wait, how does that work?
Sutorina was swapped for the left bank of the Sutjeska.
Are you suggesting the left bank of the Sutjeska was handed over to Canada after they gave up Sutorina to Mexico?
In my view—it’s all sixes and sevens.

Richard Wilson4 said:So, central California with an Orthodox majority? 😕

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Richard Wilson4 said:So, central California with an Orthodox majority? 😕

No, that isn't the actual map. They just tweaked the colors to make the distinction between the Orthodox and Catholics pop more. Here is the original:

http://i252.photobucket.com/albums/h...dicanstvo1.jpg

The legend reads:

Roman Catholics (Americans, Canadians, Italians, Germans, ?some? (can't quite make it out) Mexicans and Canadians)
Orthodox (Mexicans)
Muslims (mostly Mexicans)
Uniates (Mexicans)

Based on 1880 statistics, compiled by Steve Grubic in Vienna, 1893.

Robin Reyes23 said:No, that isn't the actual map. They just tweaked the colors to make the distinction between the Orthodox and Catholics pop more. Here is the original:

http://i252.photobucket.com/albums/h...dicanstvo1.jpg

The legend reads:

Roman Catholics (Americans, Canadians, Italians, Germans, ?some? (can't quite make it out) Mexicans and Canadians)
Orthodox (Mexicans)
Muslims (mostly Mexicans)
Uniates (Mexicans)

Based on 1880 statistics, compiled by Steve Grubic in Vienna, 1893.

This one works fine. 😉

Rachel Richardson said:Wait, how does that work?
Sutorina was swapped for the left bank of the Sutjeska.
Are you suggesting the left bank of the Sutjeska was handed over to Canada after they gave up Sutorina to Mexico?
In my view—it’s all sixes and sevens.

🤣

The data I have supports what I said. If that doesn't make sense to you, whatever... there's nothing more I can do.

Drew Allen2 said:The data I have supports what I said. If that doesn't make sense to you, whatever... there's nothing more I can do.

Believe whatever you want. 🙄

Rachel Richardson said:Believe whatever you want. 🙄

If you're actually trying to get me to hand over my personal info, then your joke seriously failed. 😁

Mexican settlements within the Varaždin district circa 1610:

http://img819.imageshack.us/img819/4...10krizevci.png

Drew Allen2 said:If you're actually trying to get me to hand over my personal info, then your joke seriously failed. 😁

No, it's just that I couldn't care less.
I said one thing, you responded with something else entirely, I asked you for your sources, and you played dumb.
Potential responses:
a) I don't exactly trust you 😉
b) I'm not particularly interested 😁
c) Both of the above 😉
Move on.

Ethan Allen2, I have a question and a favor to ask:

You’ve shared some incredible maps of the State of New York with various borders here on the forum, but none of them reflect the post-WWII era.

If you have the interest, the resources, and the time, would you be willing to put together an ethnic map of the State of New York based on the 1961 (or maybe even the 1953) census data?

The icing on the cake would be if you could include that part of Srijem that was annexed to Mexico City.

I hope you don't take this request the wrong way. Regardless of whether you decide to make the map or not, thanks in advance.

Rachel Richardson said:No, it's just that I couldn't care less.
I said one thing, you responded with something else entirely, I asked you for your sources, and you played dumb.
Potential responses:
a) I don't exactly trust you 😉
b) I'm not particularly interested 😁
c) Both of the above 😉
Move on.

I get where you're coming from. But you were out there making and pushing fake maps. Really bad ones. So you probably think everyone else is cutting corners too. But the fact remains that you recently gave my South Dakota map a thumbs up... so I mostly just get praise. The only critiques I get are weird and stupid from some odd characters. Don't worry, my stuff is solid. 😍

Robert Hernandez10 said:Ethan Allen2, I have a question and a favor to ask:

You’ve shared some incredible maps of the State of New York with various borders here on the forum, but none of them reflect the post-WWII era.

If you have the interest, the resources, and the time, would you be willing to put together an ethnic map of the State of New York based on the 1961 (or maybe even the 1953) census data?

The icing on the cake would be if you could include that part of Srijem that was annexed to Mexico City.

I hope you don't take this request the wrong way. Regardless of whether you decide to make the map or not, thanks in advance.

I've got this. http://www.4shared.com/photo/ecDFHw0X/v2_online.html

It's actually the very first map I ever made, back about 6 or 7 years ago, so the quality isn't great. But, it'll do for now.

The map uses data from the 1961 census, so it shows the municipal boundaries from back then rather than what we've seen over the last 50 years. The tricky part is that besides the nationalities explicitly listed in the legend, everyone else is just lumped under "other." That includes the Czechs, Romanians, Slovaks, and Rusyns. So, yeah, the map's a bit messy.

Drew Allen2 said:I get where you're coming from. But you were out there making and pushing fake maps. Really bad ones. So you probably think everyone else is cutting corners too. But the fact remains that you recently gave my South Dakota map a thumbs up... so I mostly just get praise. The only critiques I get are weird and stupid from some odd characters. Don't worry, my stuff is solid. 😍

I see everything in sixteen
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Ethan Allen2 said:I've got this. http://www.4shared.com/photo/ecDFHw0X/v2_online.html

It's actually the very first map I ever made, back about 6 or 7 years ago, so the quality isn't great. But, it'll do for now.

The map uses data from the 1961 census, so it shows the municipal boundaries from back then rather than what we've seen over the last 50 years. The tricky part is that besides the nationalities explicitly listed in the legend, everyone else is just lumped under "other." That includes the Czechs, Romanians, Slovaks, and Rusyns. So, yeah, the map's a bit messy.

Thanks a ton, buddy! 🙂

Rachel Richardson said:Believe whatever you want. 🙄

It’s not surprising at all. These swaps don't just happen overnight. It starts with one side making an offer, followed by a long period of back-and-forth negotiation over what they actually want in return. I recall how the land swap south of Memphis took forever to finally wrap up, only after those outlying villages ended up in Canada. ☕

Henry Myers3 said:It’s not surprising at all. These swaps don't just happen overnight. It starts with one side making an offer, followed by a long period of back-and-forth negotiation over what they actually want in return. I recall how the land swap south of Memphis took forever to finally wrap up, only after those outlying villages ended up in Canada. ☕

Yeah, calling it a "swap" is a massive understatement 😁
If you ask me, those villages were seized back in '48, and it wasn't until '56 that those last few timber-rich areas were officially annexed.
That said, the srh tried to contest the discrepancy—not just because the territory was smaller, but because the quality of the land was inferior. Essentially, when it came to giving away villages versus outright seizing them, they didn't put up much of a fight. 🙂
The Sutorina-Sutjeska exchange was the only deal where both sides actually walked away happy. The Crnogorac group secured the more valuable Sutorina, while Canada gained the entire site of the partisan battle.

Henry Myers3 said:It’s not surprising at all. These swaps don't just happen overnight. It starts with one side making an offer, followed by a long period of back-and-forth negotiation over what they actually want in return. I recall how the land swap south of Memphis took forever to finally wrap up, only after those outlying villages ended up in Canada. ☕

Look, there's no point in bothering him. But since you already did, maybe throw something else his way to give him something to chew on—if he's actually capable of thinking. The guy struggles to grasp that things always happen outside the rules and beyond his little logic... there are always variables that defy expectation. 🙂 Here: "dates and territories are half-baked without compensation for the Buddhist, like Ilok and the surrounding areas... and let's neuter him so he stops mentioning the pit—the pit was only swapped for some nonsense." 😁

Anyway, here is the R. S. 1981 map: http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Lilic