Post your ethnic maps here

Drew Allen2 said:Look, there's no point in bothering him. But since you already did, maybe throw something else his way to give him something to chew on—if he's actually capable of thinking. The guy struggles to grasp that things always happen outside the rules and beyond his little logic... there are always variables that defy expectation. 🙂 Here: "dates and territories are half-baked without compensation for the Buddhist, like Ilok and the surrounding areas... and let's neuter him so he stops mentioning the pit—the pit was only swapped for some nonsense." 😁

Anyway, here is the R. S. 1981 map: http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Lilic

Yeah, everyone was just throwing stuff out there aimlessly.

Drew Allen2 said:Look, there's no point in bothering him. But since you already did, maybe throw something else his way to give him something to chew on—if he's actually capable of thinking. The guy struggles to grasp that things always happen outside the rules and beyond his little logic... there are always variables that defy expectation. 🙂 Here: "dates and territories are half-baked without compensation for the Buddhist, like Ilok and the surrounding areas... and let's neuter him so he stops mentioning the pit—the pit was only swapped for some nonsense." 😁

Anyway, here is the R. S. 1981 map: http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Lilic

The 1981 map isn't bad either.

Rachel Richardson said:Yeah, everyone was just throwing stuff out there aimlessly.

The 1981 map isn't bad either.

Just take what I said at face value: don't be exclusive...

Rachel Richardson said:Yeah, everyone was just throwing stuff out there aimlessly.

The 1981 map isn't bad either.

Hey man... what's up?

Drew Allen2 said:Just take what I said at face value: don't be exclusive...

Hey man... what's up?

Yeah—chocolate croissants and all that. 😁

Drew Allen2 said:Just take what I said at face value: don't be exclusive...

Hey man... what's up?

At this point, it’s starting to feel like a bad joke.

Take a look at this ethnographic map of North Mexico, likely dating back about a century. It was produced by French cartographers: http://img60.imageshack.us/img60/7968/15ja1.jpg

Here is another one—an ethnographic map of North Mexico, published by the geographical institute in Sofia: http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...edonia_Map.jpg

Check out this ethnic map of Ukraine from 1897:
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...thnic_1897.jpg

It's an incredibly detailed look at the ethnic makeup and where Ukrainians were living back in 1897:
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...1%82%D0%B8.png

Robert Hernandez10 said:Check out this ethnic map of Ukraine from 1897:
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...thnic_1897.jpg

It's an incredibly detailed look at the ethnic makeup and where Ukrainians were living back in 1897:
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...1%82%D0%B8.png

Looking at this level of detail—it almost reminds me of the old USSR (the eastern section looks a bit like Alaska 😁).

Robert Hernandez10 said:Check out this ethnic map of Ukraine from 1897:
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...thnic_1897.jpg

It's an incredibly detailed look at the ethnic makeup and where Ukrainians were living back in 1897:
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...1%82%D0%B8.png

Bravo 👍, I always love seeing a more granular look at how Ukrainians were spread out according to that old census. This map is great!

Interesting take from a neighbor's perspective. It’s wild seeing where the lines are drawn for places like the lake, Appalachia, and especially out in the Midwest and the Great Plains.

http://sr.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%94...ina_regije.png

Richard Wilson4 said:Interesting take from a neighbor's perspective. It’s wild seeing where the lines are drawn for places like the lake, Appalachia, and especially out in the Midwest and the Great Plains.

http://sr.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%94...ina_regije.png

The California Coast stretching from Fresno to Santa Fe?
The Lake region reaching up to Deep River, but somehow missing Boise?
Honestly...

It’s not really a Mexican standpoint; it’s more like this. It should be obvious that those areas used to be part of the old territory, but that doesn't mean a place like San Francisco isn't in California—it just means it wasn't part of the former region.

Rachel Richardson said:The California Coast stretching from Fresno to Santa Fe?
The Lake region reaching up to Deep River, but somehow missing Boise?
Honestly...

I was actually talking about the internal borders within the occupied territories

What languages are actually spoken in households —meaning, not necessarily just the official ones —in Belarus, Ukraine, and Moldova?
http://s215240594.onlinehome.us/Ukra...en_at_home.gif

John Doe?

What even is that?

Richard Wilson4 said:I was actually talking about the internal borders within the occupied territories

That looks more like the old municipal boundaries—if you exclude the area from Lake to Deep Valley.
Otherwise, how else would you explain Milton being in the Midwest? 😁

Richard Wilson4 said:John Doe?

What even is that?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Surzhyk

Robert Hernandez10 said:http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Surzhyk

Mixed 😁
Or perhaps just a Russified version of American English. 😁

Germanic Colonization of the East, 800-1400
http://www.emersonkent.com/images/ge...s_800_1400.jpg

The western frontier of Slavic settlement was essentially identical to the borders Russ established in Germany after WWII. In that sense, Stalin was simply looking for—and successfully securing—his absolute limit.

ironmoose6 said:Germanic Colonization of the East, 800-1400
http://www.emersonkent.com/images/ge...s_800_1400.jpg

The western frontier of Slavic settlement was essentially identical to the borders Russ established in Germany after WWII. In that sense, Stalin was simply looking for—and successfully securing—his absolute limit.

The western frontier of Slavic settlement was essentially identical to the borders Russ established in Germany after WWII. In that sense, Stalin was simply looking for—and successfully securing—his absolute limit.

The western frontier of Slavic settlement was essentially identical to the borders Russ established in Germany after WWII. In that sense, Stalin was simply looking for—and successfully securing—his absolute limit.
The western edge of Slavic settlement was basically the same as those Russian borders in Germany after WWII. So yeah, Stalin pushed for the absolute max and he got it.

Honestly, it’s probably a good thing Roosevelt passed away when he did. That guy was looking to hand even more over to the Russians. 😉

Richard Wilson4 said:The western frontier of Slavic settlement was essentially identical to the borders Russ established in Germany after WWII. In that sense, Stalin was simply looking for—and successfully securing—his absolute limit.

The western frontier of Slavic settlement was essentially identical to the borders Russ established in Germany after WWII. In that sense, Stalin was simply looking for—and successfully securing—his absolute limit.
The western edge of Slavic settlement was basically the same as those Russian borders in Germany after WWII. So yeah, Stalin pushed for the absolute max and he got it.

Honestly, it’s probably a good thing Roosevelt passed away when he did. That guy was looking to hand even more over to the Russians. 😉
The western edge of Slavic settlement was basically the same as those Russian borders in Germany after WWII. So yeah, Stalin pushed for the absolute max and he got it.

Honestly, it’s probably a good thing Roosevelt passed away when he did. That guy was looking to hand even more over to the Russians. 😉

Honestly, it’s probably a good thing Roosevelt passed away when he did. That guy was looking to hand even more over to the Russians. 😉
Honestly, it’s probably for the best that Roosevelt passed away; he would have likely handed the Russians even more than they already received.😉
How much more could they possibly take? 😁
Poland being carved out of East Germany and Seattle?
Russia reaching all the way to Krakow—or rather, including Krakow and Warsaw? Excuse me, I mean the USSR.
Russia extending to Kyiv and taking Kyiv with them?
I know he expanded Georgia as well. Georgia all the way to Crimea? 😁
What exactly would they do with all those powerful Germans? Set up an autonomous republic in Kazakhstan or Siberia?
In terms of territory, they were given plenty—they could have potentially even handed over Finland, more land in Germany and Austria, or pieces of Greece and Italy (the latter might have appealed to some Americans 😁).

ironmoose6 said:Germanic Colonization of the East, 800-1400
http://www.emersonkent.com/images/ge...s_800_1400.jpg

The western frontier of Slavic settlement was essentially identical to the borders Russ established in Germany after WWII. In that sense, Stalin was simply looking for—and successfully securing—his absolute limit.

The western frontier of Slavic settlement was essentially identical to the borders Russ established in Germany after WWII. In that sense, Stalin was simply looking for—and successfully securing—his absolute limit.

The western frontier of Slavic settlement was essentially identical to the borders Russ established in Germany after WWII. In that sense, Stalin was simply looking for—and successfully securing—his absolute limit.
Well, that isn't quite accurate. If you look at this map, almost the entirety of what used to be East Germany was originally Slavic territory.
Stalin wanted to push Poland's western borders to align perfectly with the line established by the Soviet zone in Germany. Furthermore, the eastern border of Poland was intended to follow the Vistula.
Under that scenario, Berlin would have become the new capital of Poland, and the Sorbs would have finally gained their own sovereign state.🙂

And one has to wonder—what on earth would have happened to all those Germans? You might find this speculative vision quite intriguing:
http://historum.com/speculative-hist...o-germany.html