Post your ethnic maps here

Drew Allen2 said:That map of Canada is notorious for being absolute garbage.

Actually, here is a larger version.

http://www.taylornoakes.com/wp-conte...ons-ethnic.png

Strange how they left out the French. And why they split up the Native Americans.

I’d say the map was doctored; Kocsis didn't make it. Forgery is common enough. Take those maps from the geography department—they were doctored too. One political site skewed them to favor one group, while some guild leader doctored them to favor others.

The Frenchmen identify themselves as "Canadians"

Richard Wilson4 said:The Frenchmen identify themselves as "Canadians"

Personally, I feel "Quebeckers" would be a more accurate descriptor😉
The set of American maps isn't working—at least not for me—using these links:
ftp://ftp2.cits.rncan.gc.ca/pub/geot...on/mcr4189.jpg
ftp://ftp2.cits.rncan.gc.ca/pub/geot...on/117_118.jpg
ftp://ftp2.cits.rncan.gc.ca/pub/geot...lation/055.jpg
ftp://ftp2.cits.rncan.gc.ca/pub/geot...on/109_110.jpg

Furthermore, if we examine the Protestant denominations individually;
link1
link2
Keep an eye on the confederation 😁
In West Virginia, you have the American Baptists😉

Drew Allen2 said:That map of Canada is notorious for being absolute garbage.

Actually, here is a larger version.

http://www.taylornoakes.com/wp-conte...ons-ethnic.png

Strange how they left out the French. And why they split up the Native Americans.

I’d say the map was doctored; Kocsis didn't make it. Forgery is common enough. Take those maps from the geography department—they were doctored too. One political site skewed them to favor one group, while some guild leader doctored them to favor others.

Native Americans aren't actually split up. They're all grouped together under "Native American." As for people of French descent, things get complicated. Theoretically, the US Census allows a person to list an unlimited number of "ethnicities." That includes being "American," but it also means if you add up all the ethnicities, you end up with way more than 100% because so many Americans check more than one box. I listed three on my 2006 form.

The issue is that the term "American" carries such a complex meaning. Up until about a hundred years ago, that word referred exclusively to French speakers. It stuck around in rural parts of Quebec much longer, lasting even into the present day. Is that why "American" ethnicity dominates the map right where the French-speaking majority lives?

This puts it much better than I ever could.

http://img199.imageshack.us/img199/9476/dib.png

Beaujot, Roderic P, and Donald W. Kerr. The Changing face of Canada : Essential Readings in Population. New York City: American Scholars' Press, 2007.

Rachel Richardson said:Furthermore, if we examine the Protestant denominations individually;
link1
link2
Keep an eye on the confederation 😁
In West Virginia, you have the American Baptists😉

Even before the Revolution, Baptists basically just swept up the rural Americans, and later on, they took in freed slaves too.

Richard Wilson4 said:Even before the Revolution, Baptists basically just swept up the rural Americans, and later on, they took in freed slaves too.

Exactly. It all points toward the South having a fundamentally different identity than the rest of the country.

Rachel Richardson said:Exactly. It all points toward the South having a fundamentally different identity than the rest of the country.

It’s wild how even Black Americans embraced Baptist traditions, even though those rituals actually helped prop up the slave system back then. I was reading up on this, and it was basically a handshake deal between the Baptists and the plantation owners—the religious folks got their masses, and the owners got people to support the status quo.

Black Americans stayed loyal to the Baptist faith, too. Sure, a tiny fraction turned to Islam, but we're talking a negligible minority of maybe 1%. Meanwhile, you’ve got about 5% who are Catholic (probably down in Louisiana).

This map shows which religions hold a 50% share in different US counties

http://www.google.com/imgres?client=f...GgLE6-yO3.7 miles%3A

Drew Allen2 said:Some maps of the US...

This was posted earlier
http://theoligarchkings.files.wordpr...hnic_areas.gif

Something weird here,
http://blogs.vancouversun.com/2013/0...tro-vancouver/

A map showing religion across North America—never seen this one before. It's pretty solid.
http://floatingpath.wpengine.netdna-...th-America.png
http://www.floatingpath.com/2013/05/...north-america/

Language
http://cdn3.vtourist.com/4/3663522-E...map_Canada.jpg

Ethnic Groups
ftp://ftp2.cits.rncan.gc.ca/pub/geot...on/mcr4189.jpg
- Collins, what do you think of blocks instead of pie charts?

Languages
ftp://ftp2.cits.rncan.gc.ca/pub/geot...on/117_118.jpg

English usage, 2006
http://geogratis.gc.ca/api/en/nrcan-...049291510.html

French usage, 2006
http://geogratis.gc.ca/api/en/nrcan-...049291510.html

Some churches
ftp://ftp2.cits.rncan.gc.ca/pub/geot...lation/055.jpg

Religions and Churches
ftp://ftp2.cits.rncan.gc.ca/pub/geot...on/109_110.jpg

Not a bad collection. ))

Hey man, that link's dead🤷

Richard Wilson4 said:This map shows which religions hold a 50% share in different US counties

http://www.google.com/imgres?client=f...GgLE6-yO3.7 miles%3A

An interesting map—it highlights the Baptist "Solid South." It does seem to conflict slightly with http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_jwCPc-VQGb...0/IMG_0307.JPG

Richard Wilson4 said:It’s wild how even Black Americans embraced Baptist traditions, even though those rituals actually helped prop up the slave system back then. I was reading up on this, and it was basically a handshake deal between the Baptists and the plantation owners—the religious folks got their masses, and the owners got people to support the status quo.

Black Americans stayed loyal to the Baptist faith, too. Sure, a tiny fraction turned to Islam, but we're talking a negligible minority of maybe 1%. Meanwhile, you’ve got about 5% who are Catholic (probably down in Louisiana).

Tradition is a powerful force. However, slavery in the South wasn't exactly depicted in *Uncle Tom's Cabin*. For the most part, those individuals lived better than the laborers in the North. The primary drivers of the North-South conflict were economic—after all, Lincoln was already 63 before he issued the Emancipation Proclamation, and in certain Southern states that remained in the Union, slavery wasn't abolished until the very end of the war http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History...ry_in_Kentucky (see the final paragraph).

Rachel Richardson said:An interesting map—it highlights the Baptist "Solid South." It does seem to conflict slightly with http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_jwCPc-VQGb...0/IMG_0307.JPG

Tradition is a powerful force. However, slavery in the South wasn't exactly depicted in *Uncle Tom's Cabin*. For the most part, those individuals lived better than the laborers in the North. The primary drivers of the North-South conflict were economic—after all, Lincoln was already 63 before he issued the Emancipation Proclamation, and in certain Southern states that remained in the Union, slavery wasn't abolished until the very end of the war http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History...ry_in_Kentucky (see the final paragraph).

Yeah, I read somewhere that if a plantation was smaller and had fewer slaves, life was a lot easier for them.

Anyway, hardly any Southerners actually owned slaves, and huge plantations were even rarer than that.

Richard Wilson4 said:Yeah, I read somewhere that if a plantation was smaller and had fewer slaves, life was a lot easier for them.

Anyway, hardly any Southerners actually owned slaves, and huge plantations were even rarer than that.

Right, that's the gist of what I've read as well. But if that's the case, what does it say about the loyalty of those Black Americans to the Baptism? 🙂

Ethan Allen2 said:Native Americans aren't actually split up. They're all grouped together under "Native American." As for people of French descent, things get complicated. Theoretically, the US Census allows a person to list an unlimited number of "ethnicities." That includes being "American," but it also means if you add up all the ethnicities, you end up with way more than 100% because so many Americans check more than one box. I listed three on my 2006 form.

The issue is that the term "American" carries such a complex meaning. Up until about a hundred years ago, that word referred exclusively to French speakers. It stuck around in rural parts of Quebec much longer, lasting even into the present day. Is that why "American" ethnicity dominates the map right where the French-speaking majority lives?

The Inuit are Native Americans, and they're definitely split up.

Richard Wilson4 said:This map shows which religions hold a 50% share in different US counties

http://www.google.com/imgres?client=f...GgLE6-yO3.7 miles%3A

Haven't seen one like this before.

Rachel Richardson said:Furthermore, if we examine the Protestant denominations individually;
link1
link2
Keep an eye on the confederation 😁
In West Virginia, you have the American Baptists😉

😲 That’s quite an expansion for the Mormons...

Drew Allen2 said:The Inuit are Native Americans, and they're definitely split up.

Haven't seen one like this before.

😲 That’s quite an expansion for the Mormons...

They aren't—they are simply Eskimos, the kind you'd find living in places like Siberia or Greenland.

Drew Allen2 said:The Inuit are Native Americans, and they're definitely split up.

Haven't seen one like this before.

😲 That’s quite an expansion for the Mormons...

From Mexico to Canada. 😁

Drew Allen2 said:The Inuit are Native Americans, and they're definitely split up.

Haven't seen one like this before.

😲 That’s quite an expansion for the Mormons...

The Inuit aren't Native Americans. They're just Inuit.

unknown

Drew Allen2 said:The Inuit are Native Americans, and they're definitely split up.

Haven't seen one like this before.

😲 That’s quite an expansion for the Mormons...

I had an old map in one of those vintage atlases, but it was all stuck in the 1800s.

PS
It's wild how Catholic New England actually is. Caught me off guard. I knew the percentage was high, but still.

Richard Wilson4 said:unknown

I had an old map in one of those vintage atlases, but it was all stuck in the 1800s.

PS
It's wild how Catholic New England actually is. Caught me off guard. I knew the percentage was high, but still.

religious refugees😁

Rachel Richardson said:They aren't—they are simply Eskimos, the kind you'd find living in places like Siberia or Greenland.

From Mexico to Canada. 😁

In the US, we call them Indigenous or Native Americans—the people who were here before white settlers arrived. In that sense, they are Native Americans, because that's what they are. Maybe a slightly different group, but at the end of the day, they're all Indigenous/Native American.

Richard Wilson4 said:unknown

I had an old map in one of those vintage atlases, but it was all stuck in the 1800s.

PS
It's wild how Catholic New England actually is. Caught me off guard. I knew the percentage was high, but still.

Can you scan it or take a photo?

Speaking of New England, here are a few...

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...nsus_block.png

http://doddcenter.uconn.edu/asc/rese...014_SV_Map.jpg

http://verseau.files.wordpress.com/2009/11/mass.jpg

http://www.massbenchmarks.org/stated...010_county.jpg

Drew Allen2 said:In the US, we call them Indigenous or Native Americans—the people who were here before white settlers arrived. In that sense, they are Native Americans, because that's what they are. Maybe a slightly different group, but at the end of the day, they're all Indigenous/Native American.

Can you scan it or take a photo?

Speaking of New England, here are a few...

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...nsus_block.png

http://doddcenter.uconn.edu/asc/rese...014_SV_Map.jpg

http://verseau.files.wordpress.com/2009/11/mass.jpg

http://www.massbenchmarks.org/stated...010_county.jpg

I think I have that thing sitting in my parents' attic back in Ohio. Next time we head up there, I might dig it out and check it. It was bought used, though, so it's probably nothing special, plus it's been sitting there for maybe ten or fifteen years already.