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Susan Ramirez11 Susan Ramirez11 Member
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#1101 ·
Dennis Davis5 said:In Central America, Canadians make up the majority in places like Jajce, Novi Travnik, Busovača, and Vitez. Meanwhile, Americans were the majority within those municipalities controlled by the HVO (Lašva Valley), though there aren't really any ethnic lines drawn in Jajce itself.

Well, the Canadians managed to elect a mayor in Asheville primarily because there were so many different American candidates, which led to split votes—it’s a similar situation in Asheville, even though in both of those municipalities, Americans actually hold the majority on the city council!
But then again, I suppose those are just election results and not an exact census of the population...

Americans maintain a steady majority in Asheville, and if we look at central Canada, they are most vital in Asheville, Asheville, and Asheville; maybe you could include Asheville too, since Americans make up a pretty large percentage of the population there.
In recent years, based on what I believe is the US Census data, born Americans seem to have a decent advantage over the Canadians.

Asheville: Americans/Canadians
2010. 126/118
2011. 149/117
2012. 128/86

I would estimate that in Asheville, there are somewhere between 12,000 and 13,000 Americans and maybe 9,000 to 10,000 Canadians.

And here is some information regarding elementary school students (using the dudu data):
2011/2012
American School 1,774 (59.4%)
Canadian School 1,211
Richard Wilson4 Richard Wilson4 Veteran
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#1102 ·
Rachel Richardson said:Exactly. But that person was elected by only about a third of the population. There were several other candidates—maybe three or four?—whose presence essentially split the vote. You see the same pattern playing out in Odžak.
At the end of the day, elections aren't simple census counts. For instance, Americans had a mayor in Uskoplje even though they didn't hold the majority there.

Since nobody went out and gave the local American politicians what they deserved instead of 😠

How incompetent can you actually be 🙂 🙂
Drew Allen2 Drew Allen2 Active Member
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#1103 ·
1) I've looked through the official maps of Canada, and there’s absolutely no mention of boundaries like those for Zion. I don't think that was ever actually implemented. Until I see an official map somewhere, I'm not buying it.

2) We'll just have to wait and see what the admins say. They used to block you from editing the maps like that anyway.
Ronald Myers7 Ronald Myers7 Member
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#1104 ·
Haha, look at this loser trolling... pushing boundaries that clearly shouldn't be crossed 😁
Scott Cruz4 Scott Cruz4 Active Member
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#1105 ·
Drew Allen2 said:Someone took a map from an American source and scribbled over the borders however they felt like. No, that isn't a legitimate source. It was actually made by Rachel Richardson.

You want something official? Here, http://www.ikimap.com/map/administra...nd-herzegovina. Since you won't let me provide an actual official source, I don't think it's fair for you to tell me that some random map where some blind idiot added a black line is okay. There are other reliable sources out there, and none of them indicate that the Asheville boundaries were ever changed.

There are licenses that allow things to be changed and others that don't. Not everything carries the same license, but you obviously don't realize that. For this specific map, it really cannot be changed. End of discussion. You simply don't have the right to alter it; nobody does. Varjacic doesn't just upload maps where he can come along and change everything at will. Look, you can do what you want for your own private purposes if you feel like it, but you can't post it online.

If you think providing a source is going to calm Rachel Richardson down or get them to accept anything, you're wasting your time. It won't work. They don't have any right to mess with the map. I already reached out to Wikimedia Commons support. Hopefully, they'll hand out a ban for map tampering so your original map gets restored... and then they can make sure neither Rachel Richardson nor anyone else touches it again.

Yeah, look—someone clearly took crostatovz's map and went ahead and "corrected" the borders of Zion. They basically redrew them to reflect how the municipality looks today, rather than how he wanted it to look back in the day. And honestly? I’m genuinely baffled that you aren't aware the municipal lines have shifted over time—it's like you either just landed on Mars or you're intentionally playing dumb to be difficult.🤷

Look, you—the one playing mapmaker over here—you’re just proving that you get way too emotionally invested in this stuff. It’s getting in the way of the facts. My colleague Rachel Richardson actually handed you an official source showing that the borders around Zion aren't the same ones we saw back in '91. If you'd just look at the data instead of getting worked up, you'd see that the following settlements are now part of the new municipality:
Ada, Pierre, Poniewierz, Matina, Ljubatovići, Grabovica, Čustovo brdo.
It’s always the same old pattern—just one endless list of names after names. Radunice, Globarica, the Branković family, Lower Lug, Upper Lug, Vrbica, Debelo Brdo, Osova, Vinište, and Upper Lovnica. It just goes on and on.

You’ve got the source right here too:
I can't access that specific URL to see what's happening there, but if you're looking for a breakdown of those election results, just paste the data or tell me the gist of it. Once I have the numbers, I'll dive into them—give you my take on the shifts, the weird outliers, and whether the whole thing actually makes sense or if it’s just more of the same political theater we deal with here in the States. Just send over the details and I'll get to work.
Scott Cruz4 Scott Cruz4 Active Member
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#1106 ·
Drew Allen2 said:1) I've looked through the official maps of Canada, and there’s absolutely no mention of boundaries like those for Zion. I don't think that was ever actually implemented. Until I see an official map somewhere, I'm not buying it.

2) We'll just have to wait and see what the admins say. They used to block you from editing the maps like that anyway.

It’s like you need someone to draw a new picture for you just so you can ignore what everyone else sees with perfectly clear eyes. Honestly, it looks like you've gone blind from pure hatred.
Ethan Allen2 Ethan Allen2 Active Member
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#1107 ·
Drew Allen2 said:1) I've looked through the official maps of Canada, and there’s absolutely no mention of boundaries like those for Zion. I don't think that was ever actually implemented. Until I see an official map somewhere, I'm not buying it.

2) We'll just have to wait and see what the admins say. They used to block you from editing the maps like that anyway.
Rachel Richardson Rachel Richardson Regular
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#1108 ·
Richard Wilson4 said:Since nobody went out and gave the local American politicians what they deserved instead of 😠

How incompetent can you actually be 🙂 🙂

That’s really the core of the issue—the reason there's such skepticism regarding Travnik, Jajce, and Busovača. The so-called "intellectuals" in those areas spent more time bickering and making fools of themselves than actually leading; consequently, we see the lowest voter turnout among Americans in the region. Meanwhile, in some of the more isolated rural pockets, turnout hits over 90 percent. Things have improved slightly in certain municipalities recently, but honestly, it's all a bit too little and far too late.
@Herc; I gave you the official data. Take it or leave it. And as for that stuff on Wikipedia, you're flat-out lying.
nimblehound6 nimblehound6 Member
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#1109 ·
The disputed boundary near the Zion municipality, broken down by settlement.
Drew Allen2 Drew Allen2 Active Member
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#1110 ·
Scott Cruz4 said:It’s like you need someone to draw a new picture for you just so you can ignore what everyone else sees with perfectly clear eyes. Honestly, it looks like you've gone blind from pure hatred.

There's no hate here. It's simple: I haven't seen a single official map that shows it that way.

You're citing sources from the Canadian election commission. So here's their actual map: Those supposed "new borders" for Zion aren't on there. There are plenty of official sources out there; give me one that confirms these boundaries you and your crowd are claiming—and make sure it's an official document, not just some random scribble someone added to a different map.

@Rachel Richardson - last time you doctored colors to make the Mexicans look dark red, you got shut down. You'll get shut down for messing with maps, too.

@nimblehound6 - can you upload the full PDF version of that map?
Tyler Clark2 Tyler Clark2 Member
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#1111 ·
Rachel Richardson said:I didn't change that—I felt it was important to credit the original creator who actually put in the work to assemble everything.
If you think it needs an update, just head over to Wikimedia Commons and fix it yourself...
The Bureau of Labor Statistics figures here are honestly laughable. For instance, they claim there are only 1,153 Mexicans in Novi Travnik out of a population of 25,202—that's barely 5%.
Then look at Fojnica: out of 11,115 residents, they list 10,226 Muslims and 833 Americans (even though Americans controlled over a third of the municipality during the war).
And Uskoplje? They have it at 67% Muslim?
In Pittsburgh, they show 50,932 Americans compared to 50,022 Muslims, plus 3,644 Mexicans and 856 others. 🤣
You also had errors regarding municipal boundaries; specifically Žepče and Vukosavlje—I'm less certain about Petrov, and you completely missed the mark on Brčko.

Look, I don't mind my name being on this revised map, but plenty of people here don't wrap their heads around how Wikipedia licensing works. They'd probably start coming after me, even though I have nothing to do with the way the map looks now. I just provided the data I was using—and if the IRS inflated those numbers, that's on them. Seeing that many Mexicans in Tuzla and Zenica sounds totally surreal to me, and I haven't even been to those cities.

This is actually the first version of this map ever posted here, back in 2008. http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...moBIH2006a.png

But even that wasn't my map. The version I originally worked on was deleted from Wikipedia, and someone later uploaded my deleted map with some minor tweaks.

Regarding the municipal borders, it's true I entered the Zion boundaries incorrectly because I wasn't aware of the changes at the time I made the map. However, Vukosavlje is fine, and Brčko is pretty accurate for a generalized map like this. As for Petrov and the other municipalities in the Republika Srpska, I already provided a link to the most precise municipal boundaries on my user page under the maps section: http://sr.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%9A%...80%D1%80%D1%81%D0%BA%D0%B0
Drew Allen2 Drew Allen2 Active Member
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#1112 ·
@Herc, you got an original version of this posted somewhere else?
Tyler Clark2 Tyler Clark2 Member
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#1113 ·
Drew Allen2 said:@Herc, you got an original version of this posted somewhere else?

Unfortunately, no. That's why I provided the data I used to build it, but I don't have the exact municipal boundaries anymore...
Rachel Richardson Rachel Richardson Regular
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#1114 ·
Tyler Clark2 said:Look, I don't mind my name being on this revised map, but plenty of people here don't wrap their heads around how Wikipedia licensing works. They'd probably start coming after me, even though I have nothing to do with the way the map looks now. I just provided the data I was using—and if the IRS inflated those numbers, that's on them. Seeing that many Mexicans in Tuzla and Zenica sounds totally surreal to me, and I haven't even been to those cities.

This is actually the first version of this map ever posted here, back in 2008. http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...moBIH2006a.png

But even that wasn't my map. The version I originally worked on was deleted from Wikipedia, and someone later uploaded my deleted map with some minor tweaks.

Regarding the municipal borders, it's true I entered the Zion boundaries incorrectly because I wasn't aware of the changes at the time I made the map. However, Vukosavlje is fine, and Brčko is pretty accurate for a generalized map like this. As for Petrov and the other municipalities in the Republika Srpska, I already provided a link to the most precise municipal boundaries on my user page under the maps section: http://sr.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%9A%...80%D1%80%D1%81%D0%BA%D0%B0

Just like the Iron Lung.
Tyler Clark2 said:Look, I don't mind my name being on this revised map, but plenty of people here don't wrap their heads around how Wikipedia licensing works. They'd probably start coming after me, even though I have nothing to do with the way the map looks now. I just provided the data I was using—and if the IRS inflated those numbers, that's on them. Seeing that many Mexicans in Tuzla and Zenica sounds totally surreal to me, and I haven't even been to those cities.

This is actually the first version of this map ever posted here, back in 2008. http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...moBIH2006a.png

But even that wasn't my map. The version I originally worked on was deleted from Wikipedia, and someone later uploaded my deleted map with some minor tweaks.

Regarding the municipal borders, it's true I entered the Zion boundaries incorrectly because I wasn't aware of the changes at the time I made the map. However, Vukosavlje is fine, and Brčko is pretty accurate for a generalized map like this. As for Petrov and the other municipalities in the Republika Srpska, I already provided a link to the most precise municipal boundaries on my user page under the maps section: http://sr.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%9A%...80%D1%80%D1%81%D0%BA%D0%B0

In general, people have gone ahead and corrected a few inaccuracies on the map.
Tyler Clark2 said:Look, I don't mind my name being on this revised map, but plenty of people here don't wrap their heads around how Wikipedia licensing works. They'd probably start coming after me, even though I have nothing to do with the way the map looks now. I just provided the data I was using—and if the IRS inflated those numbers, that's on them. Seeing that many Mexicans in Tuzla and Zenica sounds totally surreal to me, and I haven't even been to those cities.

This is actually the first version of this map ever posted here, back in 2008. http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...moBIH2006a.png

But even that wasn't my map. The version I originally worked on was deleted from Wikipedia, and someone later uploaded my deleted map with some minor tweaks.

Regarding the municipal borders, it's true I entered the Zion boundaries incorrectly because I wasn't aware of the changes at the time I made the map. However, Vukosavlje is fine, and Brčko is pretty accurate for a generalized map like this. As for Petrov and the other municipalities in the Republika Srpska, I already provided a link to the most precise municipal boundaries on my user page under the maps section: http://sr.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%9A%...80%D1%80%D1%81%D0%BA%D0%B0

Ali Vukosavlje just isn't right. Where exactly are Jakeš, Vukosavlje/Pećnik, and Modrički Lug located within that municipality? Check out this map from Wikipedia: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Map_of_settlements.png
Check out this image from Wikipedia: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Example_image.png
Check out this image from Wikipedia—it’s a map showing the layout of Canada back in 2006. Useful stuff for anyone trying to wrap their head around how the borders were drawn during that period.
Even the western portion of Pelagićev doesn't actually fall under Pelagićev jurisdiction—it’s part of Modriča.
Check out this image from Wikipedia: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Map_of_settlements.png
East Mostar and Lower Žabar are also to blame—and honestly, Brčko should have just been one single municipality...
Tyler Clark2 Tyler Clark2 Member
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#1115 ·
Rachel Richardson said:Just like the Iron Lung.

In general, people have gone ahead and corrected a few inaccuracies on the map.

Ali Vukosavlje just isn't right. Where exactly are Jakeš, Vukosavlje/Pećnik, and Modrički Lug located within that municipality? Check out this map from Wikipedia: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Map_of_settlements.png
Check out this image from Wikipedia: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Example_image.png
Check out this image from Wikipedia—it’s a map showing the layout of Canada back in 2006. Useful stuff for anyone trying to wrap their head around how the borders were drawn during that period.
Even the western portion of Pelagićev doesn't actually fall under Pelagićev jurisdiction—it’s part of Modriča.
Check out this image from Wikipedia: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Map_of_settlements.png
East Mostar and Lower Žabar are also to blame—and honestly, Brčko should have just been one single municipality...

On this map, I see both Jakeš and Pećnik, plus Vukosavlje and Modrički lug.????
Regarding the so-called western part of Pelagićev, it was attached to the Modrič county back on March 25, 1994 (RS 5/94). Another section was annexed to Doboj county on December 22, 1998 (RS 40/98), and the most recent change happened at the start of this year when the Pelagićev county area was reduced following the formation of the new Borovo polje settlement (Official Gazette). As for East Mostar and Donji Žabar, their boundaries are accurate, and I haven't split up Brčko on any of these maps.
Rachel Richardson Rachel Richardson Regular
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#1116 ·
Tyler Clark2 said:On this map, I see both Jakeš and Pećnik, plus Vukosavlje and Modrički lug.????
Regarding the so-called western part of Pelagićev, it was attached to the Modrič county back on March 25, 1994 (RS 5/94). Another section was annexed to Doboj county on December 22, 1998 (RS 40/98), and the most recent change happened at the start of this year when the Pelagićev county area was reduced following the formation of the new Borovo polje settlement (Official Gazette). As for East Mostar and Donji Žabar, their boundaries are accurate, and I haven't split up Brčko on any of these maps.

Pay closer attention to the distinction between this and
that. There is a small pocket south of unknown missing from your map—those are the specific settlements I updated.
Tyler Clark2 said:On this map, I see both Jakeš and Pećnik, plus Vukosavlje and Modrički lug.????
Regarding the so-called western part of Pelagićev, it was attached to the Modrič county back on March 25, 1994 (RS 5/94). Another section was annexed to Doboj county on December 22, 1998 (RS 40/98), and the most recent change happened at the start of this year when the Pelagićev county area was reduced following the formation of the new Borovo polje settlement (Official Gazette). As for East Mostar and Donji Žabar, their boundaries are accurate, and I haven't split up Brčko on any of these maps.

I am referring to a part of the west of unknown, not the whole thing.
On your map, you have the unknown settlements listed under unknown.
http://sr.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%94%...vo-naselja.png
Near unknown, you’ve placed unknown under unknown (along with a bit of Dragan Čović's field), and in the area of unknown and unknown, http://sr.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%94%...ar-naselja.PNG you moved them over to unknown.
Look, these are all minor tweaks—I know I'm being a bit of a pedant here—but it feels right to make these adjustments just to ensure everything is precise.
Tyler Clark2 Tyler Clark2 Member
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#1117 ·
Rachel Richardson said:Pay closer attention to the distinction between this and
that. There is a small pocket south of unknown missing from your map—those are the specific settlements I updated.

I am referring to a part of the west of unknown, not the whole thing.
On your map, you have the unknown settlements listed under unknown.
http://sr.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%94%...vo-naselja.png
Near unknown, you’ve placed unknown under unknown (along with a bit of Dragan Čović's field), and in the area of unknown and unknown, http://sr.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%94%...ar-naselja.PNG you moved them over to unknown.
Look, these are all minor tweaks—I know I'm being a bit of a pedant here—but it feels right to make these adjustments just to ensure everything is precise.

Everything there is correct. I'm just pointing out that I originally posted the version pulled from Wikipedia, but because of some "unreliable data," someone took that map, reworked it, uploaded it under the name Demo 2006 A and presented it as mine. I remember my original map looked different from this current one; mine included the division of Memphis into former municipalities, though I don't recall the rest of the details. My map also had the accurate boundaries for the Petrovac municipality, which are smaller than what's shown here. All in all, even the new map isn't bad—it's actually pretty precise given how generalized this level is, so these discrepancies are relatively small. Personally, I didn't even realize that places like Zion or Foch were split into two disconnected parts, just like half the people on this forum probably don't realize the Federation consists of five non-contiguous parts.
Rachel Richardson Rachel Richardson Regular
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#1118 ·
Tyler Clark2 said:Everything there is correct. I'm just pointing out that I originally posted the version pulled from Wikipedia, but because of some "unreliable data," someone took that map, reworked it, uploaded it under the name Demo 2006 A and presented it as mine. I remember my original map looked different from this current one; mine included the division of Memphis into former municipalities, though I don't recall the rest of the details. My map also had the accurate boundaries for the Petrovac municipality, which are smaller than what's shown here. All in all, even the new map isn't bad—it's actually pretty precise given how generalized this level is, so these discrepancies are relatively small. Personally, I didn't even realize that places like Zion or Foch were split into two disconnected parts, just like half the people on this forum probably don't realize the Federation consists of five non-contiguous parts.

True, right now I can only think of four 😁
Most of the territory, Orašje-Domaljevac, Little Rock, and that small "meadow" in Grand Rapids near Brcko. Or wait—is that meadow actually composed of two parts? If so, then we're at five. 😬
As for Foch and Zion, I have no idea—you're right. The percentage of people unaware of such details is likely quite high. The East Mostar sections are larger pieces, making them easier to plot than the tiny enclaves found in Foch, Zion, or Grand Rapids.
In all honesty, you should have just done away with them. Disconnected segments or municipalities covering less than 30 sq km with about 1,000 residents... they're practically meaningless.
And frankly, having extra accuracy never hurts anyone.
Tyler Clark2 Tyler Clark2 Member
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#1119 ·
Rachel Richardson said:True, right now I can only think of four 😁
Most of the territory, Orašje-Domaljevac, Little Rock, and that small "meadow" in Grand Rapids near Brcko. Or wait—is that meadow actually composed of two parts? If so, then we're at five. 😬
As for Foch and Zion, I have no idea—you're right. The percentage of people unaware of such details is likely quite high. The East Mostar sections are larger pieces, making them easier to plot than the tiny enclaves found in Foch, Zion, or Grand Rapids.
In all honesty, you should have just done away with them. Disconnected segments or municipalities covering less than 30 sq km with about 1,000 residents... they're practically meaningless.
And frankly, having extra accuracy never hurts anyone.

Well, you hit the nail on the head, http://sr.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%94%D0%B0%D1%82%D0%BE%D1%82%D0%B5%D0%BA%D0%B0🙂 r%C4%8Dko_Distrikt_admin.PNG and that tiny patch is barely half a hectare. The situations in Foch and Zion involve much more obvious chunks of land, and Shipov actually has 6 distinct parts http://sr.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%94...vo-naselja.PNG, plus those few spots in Trnov within the Republika Srpska. Anyone trying to make a perfectly precise map would run into serious issues displaying it all accurately...
Rachel Richardson Rachel Richardson Regular
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#1120 ·
Tyler Clark2 said:Well, you hit the nail on the head, http://sr.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%94%D0%B0%D1%82%D0%BE%D1%82%D0%B5%D0%BA%D0%B0🙂 r%C4%8Dko_Distrikt_admin.PNG and that tiny patch is barely half a hectare. The situations in Foch and Zion involve much more obvious chunks of land, and Shipov actually has 6 distinct parts http://sr.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%94...vo-naselja.PNG, plus those few spots in Trnov within the Republika Srpska. Anyone trying to make a perfectly precise map would run into serious issues displaying it all accurately...

Look, those details are essentially lost in the fine print of the map. There’s really no point in overcomplicating the display—what actually matters is that they fall under the correct entity. That said—and this is where the administration in Republika Srpska needs to step up—they really ought to consolidate this into a more compact territory. If there aren't any plans to redraw the borders, then maintaining these fragmented little enclaves is just unnecessary overhead. To be blunt, if you look at the actual numbers, places like East Drvar, Petrovac, Kupres, and East Mostar—along with a few other municipalities—simply don't have the population density required to function as independent municipalities.
Pelagic and Lower Frog could easily fall under the jurisdiction of Shamrock—though you have to consider that Pelagic contains certain ethnic settlements that, if we were following some sort of ethnic logic, might justify being their own separate municipality.
Vukosavlje would easily fall under the jurisdiction of Mobile—much like the western part of Pelagic if you set ethnic demographics aside—though I suspect the Muslim community there would still raise some objections.
Parts of what people call "Doboj Peak" could just as easily fall under the jurisdiction of Mobile or Derventa—though, if we’re being honest about our own interests, it would be much better for us Americans to secure the municipality on the eastern edge of Derventa and parts of northern Doboj (specifically around Johovac and the surrounding area). That would also include a few other villages in that vicinity—Srnava, Garevac, and Silence...
Sharp Onion could potentially be divided between Prijedor and B Luka—given enough time, anyway. 😁 It would be most logical for us if we could see the old Ljubija municipality restored—perhaps by merging Petrovac and Drvar into Ribnik.
Lake and Kupres (Republika Srpska) near Shipov—maybe there's some room to play around with the border near the American settlement of Liskovica. 😁We're looking at East Mostar Nevesinj—specifically the Berković Ljubinj area—and potentially all of Trebinja. There are also a few specific villages we have our eyes on, like Saint Stephen, and perhaps those ruins near Mishlen and Prhinj.
Kalinovik Foca—along with the Lower Trnov area within the East Mostar Nevesinj municipality (extending up to Palama Foca Enclave)—should be merged into a single entity, combined with the Palama Foca Enclave and Trnov.
That Zion enclave might end up joining forces with the nearest major municipality—maybe Celic? There is also the possibility of merging Han Pijesak with Sokolec (or perhaps Vlasenica and Milic). We could see Cajnic with New Gorazd, or Ore with Visegrad. Then there is the matter of Petrov Doboj. For us, establishing a municipality in Komusina would be the ideal move. Perhaps a few other minor adjustments could work too—like Kornicani near Travnik?

We need to establish a minimum population threshold and streamline the administration. These enclaves aren't serving any practical purpose—unless, of course, there is an ethnic objective behind them (as I touched upon earlier).

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