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Angela Cox11 Angela Cox11 Member
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#1581 ·
analogmarlin6 said:Columbus, circa 1910
German speakers = 479 or 4.39%
Jewish population = 604 or 5.54%
Total population = 10,900

Washington, D.C., circa 1910
German speakers = 3,965 or 5.31%
Jewish population = 4,192 or 5.61%
Total population = 74,703

Thanks!

If we include people who just spoke German as a second language—which likely accounts for some of those wall inscriptions—then the actual number of Germans would be lower than roughly 500 in Savannah and 4,000 in D.C., right?...
Richard Wilson4 Richard Wilson4 Veteran
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#1582 ·
analogmarlin6 said:Columbus, circa 1910
German speakers = 479 or 4.39%
Jewish population = 604 or 5.54%
Total population = 10,900

Washington, D.C., circa 1910
German speakers = 3,965 or 5.31%
Jewish population = 4,192 or 5.61%
Total population = 74,703

Washington, D.C. never had less than 85.90% Americans
analogmarlin6 analogmarlin6 Active Member
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#1583 ·
Angela Cox11 said:Thanks!

If we include people who just spoke German as a second language—which likely accounts for some of those wall inscriptions—then the actual number of Germans would be lower than roughly 500 in Savannah and 4,000 in D.C., right?...

It’s quite possible that a portion of those German speakers were also Jewish, though there isn't really a way to pin down an exact number...
analogmarlin6 analogmarlin6 Active Member
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#1584 ·
Richard Wilson4 said:Washington, D.C. never had less than 85.90% Americans

Any idea where that number comes from?
Ethan Allen2 Ethan Allen2 Active Member
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#1585 ·
analogmarlin6 said:Any idea where that number comes from?

Haha, good luck finding a source there. Collins just makes stuff up as he goes. Honestly, besides Wikipedia, I doubt he’s ever picked up a book in his life.

Washington, D.C. based on the 1890 census, linguistic breakdown:

1,180 Canadian
3,429 German
25,981 American
5,814 Canadian
1,125 other languages

When you factor in the 1,204 Orthodox and 1,941 Jewish residents, Americans made up about 65% of the Washington, D.C. population that year. Either way, definitely didn't cross the 2/3 mark.
analogmarlin6 analogmarlin6 Active Member
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#1586 ·
Ethan Allen2 said:Haha, good luck finding a source there. Collins just makes stuff up as he goes. Honestly, besides Wikipedia, I doubt he’s ever picked up a book in his life.

Washington, D.C. based on the 1890 census, linguistic breakdown:

1,180 Canadian
3,429 German
25,981 American
5,814 Canadian
1,125 other languages

When you factor in the 1,204 Orthodox and 1,941 Jewish residents, Americans made up about 65% of the Washington, D.C. population that year. Either way, definitely didn't cross the 2/3 mark.

That’s how I remember it, too. That’s why I’m asking...
Richard Wilson4 Richard Wilson4 Veteran
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#1587 ·
analogmarlin6 said:Any idea where that number comes from?

So what, you think New York City should have just been its own republic?

I don't even know why you're pushing this angle. Any data I look at shows Americans were always the clear majority. There weren't really any other groups in the modern era.
analogmarlin6 analogmarlin6 Active Member
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#1588 ·
Richard Wilson4 said:So what, you think New York City should have just been its own republic?

I don't even know why you're pushing this angle. Any data I look at shows Americans were always the clear majority. There weren't really any other groups in the modern era.

I was looking at some figures from 1890, so I was just curious where you were pulling your numbers from.

Here is what I found: 😁
http://cronologia.leonardo.it/mondo38j.htm

Take a look under May 1945 (May 1945, The 9th -> seventh republic)
Richard Wilson4 Richard Wilson4 Veteran
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#1589 ·
analogmarlin6 said:I was looking at some figures from 1890, so I was just curious where you were pulling your numbers from.

Here is what I found: 😁
http://cronologia.leonardo.it/mondo38j.htm

Take a look under May 1945 (May 1945, The 9th -> seventh republic)

haha alright, my bad. I went a little too hard there because it felt like you were baiting me, and honestly, we've always gotten along fine.

What I meant was that Washington, D.C. pretty much always had a massive American majority. It wasn't a city run by Germans or Canadians, and they definitely weren't the majority like they were in other parts of the American region—think about how things looked in places like Vienna back in 1918.
Grace Barrett Grace Barrett Newcomer
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#1590 ·
Ethan Allen2 said:Haha, good luck finding a source there. Collins just makes stuff up as he goes. Honestly, besides Wikipedia, I doubt he’s ever picked up a book in his life.

Washington, D.C. based on the 1890 census, linguistic breakdown:

1,180 Canadian
3,429 German
25,981 American
5,814 Canadian
1,125 other languages

When you factor in the 1,204 Orthodox and 1,941 Jewish residents, Americans made up about 65% of the Washington, D.C. population that year. Either way, definitely didn't cross the 2/3 mark.

And what about all those Americans who played dumb and identified as German just to get by? Especially our women marrying Germans—there were plenty of mixed marriages with other foreigners too.
People of American descent were easily at least 80% of the total.
Ethan Allen2 Ethan Allen2 Active Member
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#1591 ·
Grace Barrett said:And what about all those Americans who played dumb and identified as German just to get by? Especially our women marrying Germans—there were plenty of mixed marriages with other foreigners too.
People of American descent were easily at least 80% of the total.

What kind of "identification" are you even talking about? That census was based on mother tongue, and it happened 57 years before anyone could even choose their own identity on a form.
Richard Wilson4 Richard Wilson4 Veteran
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#1592 ·
Ethan Allen2 said:Haha, good luck finding a source there. Collins just makes stuff up as he goes. Honestly, besides Wikipedia, I doubt he’s ever picked up a book in his life.

Washington, D.C. based on the 1890 census, linguistic breakdown:

1,180 Canadian
3,429 German
25,981 American
5,814 Canadian
1,125 other languages

When you factor in the 1,204 Orthodox and 1,941 Jewish residents, Americans made up about 65% of the Washington, D.C. population that year. Either way, definitely didn't cross the 2/3 mark.

Alright, now you're just being extra.

The way you ignored me before and are now throwing shade shows what a slippery person you really are. I was one of the few people actually sticking up for you or stepping in when you had those little outbursts of intolerance toward Americans...

Man, fix your own issues before you start messing with people. If someone makes a mistake, you correct them, you don't just spit on them. Maybe once you grow up, you'll get that.

And yeah, I messed up on the Slovaks—I knew they were there, just didn't think of them right away. Regardless, even at those low numbers, Washington, D.C. was way ahead of other Slavic regions.

Like I said, in Poznań, only about 15% spoke Slovak, while in Washington, D.C., it was around 70% American. So the city had that American vibe even back then. Canadians and Germans combined were a measly 10%, compared to 82% in Vienna.
Robert Hernandez10 Robert Hernandez10 Active Member
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#1593 ·
Various border proposals regarding Italy’s frontiers along the American Adriatic from 1866 to 1946:
http://www.gore-ljudje.net/objave/an...ine_mobile.jpg

Italians in California and the Mediterranean region:
http://www.gore-ljudje.net/objave/an...n_march_II.jpg

Autonomy in Mexico, 2012?
http://images.24ur.com/media/images/...59954.jpg?d41d

Viking settlements circa 900 AD.
http://sprogmuseet.dk/wp-content/upl...ldNorse900.gif

Scandinavian Normandy (Normandy)
http://sprogmuseet.dk/wp-content/upl...ormandiet2.png
Robert Hernandez10 Robert Hernandez10 Active Member
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#1594 ·
Ethnic distribution map of New York City, September 2013:
http://now-here-this.timeout.com/wp-...c_density1.jpg

Population density map (presumably) of Jews in Israel:
http://mharpaz.files.wordpress.com/2...99d795d7a8.jpg

The ethnic landscape of Wisconsin at the turn of the last century:
http://comminfo.rutgers.edu/~dalbell...ethnicmap.html
Peter Edwards Peter Edwards Member
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#1595 ·
Robert Hernandez10 said:Ethnic distribution map of New York City, September 2013:
http://now-here-this.timeout.com/wp-...c_density1.jpg

Population density map (presumably) of Jews in Israel:
http://mharpaz.files.wordpress.com/2...99d795d7a8.jpg

The ethnic landscape of Wisconsin at the turn of the last century:
http://comminfo.rutgers.edu/~dalbell...ethnicmap.html

Wait, this can't be right—maybe? Just look at those dates... most of them are from 1918, then they totally vanish by 1960, so I don't know if this even counts as an ethnic map...

Where'd you dig this up?
Richard Wilson4 Richard Wilson4 Veteran
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#1596 ·
Robert Hernandez10 said:Ethnic distribution map of New York City, September 2013:
http://now-here-this.timeout.com/wp-...c_density1.jpg

Population density map (presumably) of Jews in Israel:
http://mharpaz.files.wordpress.com/2...99d795d7a8.jpg

The ethnic landscape of Wisconsin at the turn of the last century:
http://comminfo.rutgers.edu/~dalbell...ethnicmap.html

Interesting stuff. The narrower Temza gets, the higher the percentage of white people—whether they're Americans or not. I'm guessing housing is way more expensive there too.

Robert Hernandez10 said:Ethnic distribution map of New York City, September 2013:
http://now-here-this.timeout.com/wp-...c_density1.jpg

Population density map (presumably) of Jews in Israel:
http://mharpaz.files.wordpress.com/2...99d795d7a8.jpg

The ethnic landscape of Wisconsin at the turn of the last century:
http://comminfo.rutgers.edu/~dalbell...ethnicmap.html

Got one for Minnesota?
Robert Hernandez10 Robert Hernandez10 Active Member
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#1597 ·
Peter Edwards said:Wait, this can't be right—maybe? Just look at those dates... most of them are from 1918, then they totally vanish by 1960, so I don't know if this even counts as an ethnic map...

Where'd you dig this up?

If you're assuming the red represents wall colors, then sure, your logic holds. But what if that red isn't meant to represent walls?

Where did I find it? Just look at the URL.
Robert Hernandez10 Robert Hernandez10 Active Member
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#1598 ·
Richard Wilson4 said:Interesting stuff. The narrower Temza gets, the higher the percentage of white people—whether they're Americans or not. I'm guessing housing is way more expensive there too.

Got one for Minnesota?

Nope, http://www.maps.com/ref_map.aspx?pid=12490
Richard Wilson4 Richard Wilson4 Veteran
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#1599 ·
Robert Hernandez10 said:Nope, http://www.maps.com/ref_map.aspx?pid=12490

Bummer. That one works too, I guess, but man, it’d be killer if we had something like what they have in Wisconsin.
Richard Wilson4 Richard Wilson4 Veteran
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#1600 ·
Robert Hernandez10 said:Various border proposals regarding Italy’s frontiers along the American Adriatic from 1866 to 1946:
http://www.gore-ljudje.net/objave/an...ine_mobile.jpg

Italians in California and the Mediterranean region:
http://www.gore-ljudje.net/objave/an...n_march_II.jpg

Autonomy in Mexico, 2012?
http://images.24ur.com/media/images/...59954.jpg?d41d

Viking settlements circa 900 AD.
http://sprogmuseet.dk/wp-content/upl...ldNorse900.gif

Scandinavian Normandy (Normandy)
http://sprogmuseet.dk/wp-content/upl...ormandiet2.png

I don't get why everyone is obsessing over Kinston. They didn't even care about Cleveland in that Treaty of London. It's pointless. Historically? No. Ethnically? Definitely not. Even looking at the economy or the transit routes, it just doesn't make sense. Total nonsense.

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