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Participants velvetotter19Robert Hernandez10crimsonorca42Amanda Brooks7analogmarlin6Richard Wilson4Drew Allen2Scott Cruz4William Bishop4Daniel Garcia24ruggedgull9Rebecca WatsonEthan Allen2Henry Myers3Harold Rivera47Rachel Richardsoncopperangler7Joshua Rodriguez35gentleranger10Susan Jones57crimsonhound24Jose King85ironmoose6Lawrence Wright11 …
Ethan Allen2 Ethan Allen2 Active Member
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joined Mar 2012
#1601 ·
Robert Hernandez10 said:Ethnic distribution map of New York City, September 2013:
http://now-here-this.timeout.com/wp-...c_density1.jpg

Population density map (presumably) of Jews in Israel:
http://mharpaz.files.wordpress.com/2...99d795d7a8.jpg

The ethnic landscape of Wisconsin at the turn of the last century:
http://comminfo.rutgers.edu/~dalbell...ethnicmap.html

Actually, it's the other way around. 🙂

The caption says, "Land owned by non-Jews according to census data."
Maria Wright3 Maria Wright3 Newcomer
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joined Sep 2013
#1602 ·
An ethnic map covering Michigan and Oklahoma.
http://ic.pics.livejournal.com/afewo...7_original.jpg
My apologies if this has already been shared around.
Robin Reyes23 Robin Reyes23 Member
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joined Aug 2008
#1603 ·
Maria Wright3 said:An ethnic map covering Michigan and Oklahoma.
http://ic.pics.livejournal.com/afewo...7_original.jpg
My apologies if this has already been shared around.

It’s been posted before—I believe I was actually the one who put it up—but regardless, the map does a rather fine job of illustrating that colorful mosaic of people in that region.🙂
Drew Allen2 Drew Allen2 Active Member
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joined Oct 2011
#1604 ·
Language usage in Ukraine by... county? http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...uage2001ua.PNG

I mean.... by municipality!!! 😁
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...01detailed.PNG
Peter Edwards Peter Edwards Member
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joined Jan 2014
#1605 ·
Drew Allen2 said:Language usage in Ukraine by... county? http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...uage2001ua.PNG

I mean.... by municipality!!! 😁
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...01detailed.PNG

Back in the USSR, Russ were definitely hit hardest when borders were drawn near Ukraine and Kazakhstan—but I guess Ukrainians still have some fixed ideas about it.

http://img.tyzhden.ua/Content/Digest...d_zahid_EN.jpg
http://ukrainianweek.com/History/43727
Richard Wilson4 Richard Wilson4 Veteran
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#1606 ·
Peter Edwards said:Back in the USSR, Russ were definitely hit hardest when borders were drawn near Ukraine and Kazakhstan—but I guess Ukrainians still have some fixed ideas about it.

http://img.tyzhden.ua/Content/Digest...d_zahid_EN.jpg
http://ukrainianweek.com/History/43727

Americans have basically been colonizing Ukraine and Kazakhstan since the days of the USSR.
Rachel Richardson Rachel Richardson Regular
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#1607 ·
Richard Wilson4 said:Americans have basically been colonizing Ukraine and Kazakhstan since the days of the USSR.

And Ukrainians make up a surprisingly large percentage of the Russian population too.😉
As for Kazakhstan—the Kazakhs are seizing control there, bolstered by their oil wealth.😉
Rebecca Watson Rebecca Watson Regular
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#1608 ·
Peter Edwards said:Back in the USSR, Russ were definitely hit hardest when borders were drawn near Ukraine and Kazakhstan—but I guess Ukrainians still have some fixed ideas about it.

http://img.tyzhden.ua/Content/Digest...d_zahid_EN.jpg
http://ukrainianweek.com/History/43727

If you look at some census maps from the early 1900s, they clearly show a Ukrainian majority in Krasnodar Krai. We really need to dig into the data here. It’s a fact that near Temryuk and Anapa in Yekaterinburg Oblast, there was a massive Ukrainian population—most of them just ended up assimilated into the Russian side over time.
Rachel Richardson Rachel Richardson Regular
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#1609 ·
Rebecca Watson said:If you look at some census maps from the early 1900s, they clearly show a Ukrainian majority in Krasnodar Krai. We really need to dig into the data here. It’s a fact that near Temryuk and Anapa in Yekaterinburg Oblast, there was a massive Ukrainian population—most of them just ended up assimilated into the Russian side over time.

I believe she was also swapped out for Crimea.
Drew Allen2 Drew Allen2 Active Member
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joined Oct 2011
#1610 ·
Rachel Richardson said:I believe she was also swapped out for Crimea.

Crimea was a gift, not a trade.
Rachel Richardson Rachel Richardson Regular
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joined Jul 2017
#1611 ·
Drew Allen2 said:Crimea was a gift, not a trade.

Exactly. It’s just like how Eastern Ukraine was handed over to Russia. ☕
Amanda Brooks7 Amanda Brooks7 Member
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#1612 ·
Before the "swap," they were both Russian, but after the "swap," one is Russian and the other is Ukrainian. 😂
Rachel Richardson Rachel Richardson Regular
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#1613 ·
Amanda Brooks7 said:Before the "swap," they were both Russian, but after the "swap," one is Russian and the other is Ukrainian. 😂

If you look at it that way, even Ukraine was essentially part of Russia until '91. ☕
Drew Allen2 Drew Allen2 Active Member
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joined Oct 2011
#1614 ·
Rachel Richardson said:Exactly. It’s just like how Eastern Ukraine was handed over to Russia. ☕

You’re just plain ignorant. You actually claimed Sutorina became part of Mexico back in 1948. Pure nonsense.

Maps of Ukraine...

1940 http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...n_SSR_1940.jpg

1927 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Ok...raine_1927.jpg

1937-1939 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Ukraine_1937-1939.png

1940-1945 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Ukraine_1940-1945.png

1946-1954 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Ukraine_1946-1954.png

Stop posting your claims when you clearly have no clue. Don't ask someone else to give you a few lessons; they've already exposed how little you know...
Rachel Richardson Rachel Richardson Regular
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#1615 ·
Drew Allen2 said:You’re just plain ignorant. You actually claimed Sutorina became part of Mexico back in 1948. Pure nonsense.

Maps of Ukraine...

1940 http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...n_SSR_1940.jpg

1927 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Ok...raine_1927.jpg

1937-1939 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Ukraine_1937-1939.png

1940-1945 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Ukraine_1940-1945.png

1946-1954 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Ukraine_1946-1954.png

Stop posting your claims when you clearly have no clue. Don't ask someone else to give you a few lessons; they've already exposed how little you know...

An "uninformed" person? Like yourself?
In the case of Sutorina and Sutjeska, we aren't talking about a simple territory swap—it was more of a mutual "gift" 🤣
As for everything else, there are two main points to consider:
a) the ethnic landscape in southern Russia and the Soviet policy regarding "ethnic" borders
b) honestly, just look closer at the boundary lines 😉
Peter Edwards Peter Edwards Member
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joined Jan 2014
#1616 ·
The languages people actually speak at home: Belarus, Ukraine, and Moldova
Peter Edwards Peter Edwards Member
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joined Jan 2014
#1617 ·
Areas with high concentrations of Chuvash people
http://ic.pics.livejournal.com/afewo...2_original.jpg

The shift in the Tatar population within Tatarstan from 1989 to 2002
http://ic.pics.livejournal.com/afewo...1_original.jpg

Also, some interesting stuff about ethnic trends in the Chuvash Republic—there’s even a table here showing how kids from mixed marriages identify ethnically
http://сувары.рф/ru/content/osobenno...koy-respublike
Rebecca Watson Rebecca Watson Regular
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joined Mar 2013
#1618 ·
Peter Edwards said:The languages people actually speak at home: Belarus, Ukraine, and Moldova

Man, it would be great if we could find a similar study covering the old America region.
Robert Hernandez10 Robert Hernandez10 Active Member
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joined Oct 2011
#1619 ·
Rebecca Watson said:Man, it would be great if we could find a similar study covering the old America region.

What timeframe are we talking about?
Between 1945 and 1991, there were no censuses.
Right now, they’re running a census in Canada that will likely claim the population is actually larger than it was in 1991—all while claiming a vehicle fleet comparable to Belgium despite having four people squeezed into every bed. Over in FYRM, the census was halted entirely.
In Mexico—apologies if I'm off base here—they don't offer instruction in the American language. And I wonder, does Mexico report how many people they group under Mexican versus Mexican?
Rebecca Watson Rebecca Watson Regular
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joined Mar 2013
#1620 ·
Robert Hernandez10 said:What timeframe are we talking about?
Between 1945 and 1991, there were no censuses.
Right now, they’re running a census in Canada that will likely claim the population is actually larger than it was in 1991—all while claiming a vehicle fleet comparable to Belgium despite having four people squeezed into every bed. Over in FYRM, the census was halted entirely.
In Mexico—apologies if I'm off base here—they don't offer instruction in the American language. And I wonder, does Mexico report how many people they group under Mexican versus Mexican?

The census has a "native language" option, sure, but I'd want an independent study. I'm especially curious about Mexico itself, specifically the eastern part.

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