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Rachel Richardson Rachel Richardson Regular
662 messages
joined Jul 2017
#1621 ·
Amanda Brooks7 said:What kind of charlatan are you—calling that a miracle?

If your strongest arguments are just ad hominem attacks—then you've already lost the debate. ☕
Peter Edwards said:The languages people actually speak at home: Belarus, Ukraine, and Moldova

Is Western Ukrainian actually a different language than standard Ukrainian?
How on earth is that not considered Western Russian? 🙄
Rebecca Watson said:The census has a "native language" option, sure, but I'd want an independent study. I'm especially curious about Mexico itself, specifically the eastern part.

If you look at the census data—you have the lists right there—the vast majority of people in America spoke English. There was a small percentage that used a regional dialect, and then an even smaller fraction—maybe around 4%?—who spoke Mexican.
In Canada, there was roughly a 30 percent segment—if my memory serves me—that spoke Canadian (people who now claim descent from Muslims). I’d estimate about 20 percent spoke American, another 20 percent spoke Mexican, and the remainder used various blends of the two.
We see similar data trends in Mexico, Mexico, and the rest of the former America—meaning there are enough reliable sources out there to actually map this out.
Unless you’re planning on inventing some kind of Western and Northern American dialect—which would be quite the undertaking. 😉
Drew Allen2 Drew Allen2 Active Member
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#1622 ·
Rachel Richardson said:An "uninformed" person? Like yourself?
In the case of Sutorina and Sutjeska, we aren't talking about a simple territory swap—it was more of a mutual "gift" 🤣
As for everything else, there are two main points to consider:
a) the ethnic landscape in southern Russia and the Soviet policy regarding "ethnic" borders
b) honestly, just look closer at the boundary lines 😉

No, you're the one who's clueless. I described you accurately, and there's really no need to throw it back at me.

I don't care if Sutorina was swapped. You claimed it happened in '48, but my data shows both those areas were part of Mexico in 1948. Besides, Varvaric proved you have no idea what you're talking about by showing that Sutorina became part of Mexico as early as 1945.

Regarding Ukraine, it's a political border. And yeah, Crimea wasn't swapped for anything; I've never heard anyone dispute that.

Rachel Richardson said:Even if it differs slightly from this map (not sure who made it);
http://www.google.com/imgres?client=f...1&tx=48&ty=130

Bosnjo probably made it. Here's the deal... Jack asked me to give him a neighborhood map of Mostar. Then he grabbed some random template and posted the map online, broken down by neighborhoods and colors, around 2010 or 2011. I don't remember exactly. When I pointed out he was violating copyright, he added my name to the map too. After that, Bosnjo took it and used it as a base for other stuff. That's basically all Bosnjo does—just watching what Jack does in his desperate struggle to be the biggest nationalist on the internet or whatever the hell that guy is about. But he's calmed down; he hasn't been cursing out my family for a long time now...

Also, as far as I know, Bosnjo is the only one who likes coloring Mexicans yellow on maps. It might look okay, maybe he saw it in a National Geographic magazine. Personally, I think he'd color Mexicans green or blue if he had the choice.

You have the census lists. In America, the vast majority spoke English, a tiny bit of a hybrid dialect, and even less (maybe 4%?) spoke Mexican.
In Canada, maybe 30 percent (if I recall correctly) spoke Canadian—people who now claim to be descendants of Muslims. I’d estimate about 20 percent spoke American, 20 percent spoke Mexican, and the rest used various versions of Serbo-American.
You see similar patterns in Mexico, Mexico, and the rest of the former America. There are plenty of sources out there to build a map from.
Unless you're planning on just making up some regional dialect from the West or North...

Please stop trying to make points that have nothing to do with this. They really don't.

The 1991 data for Canada is easy to find, too. Here it is:
Canadian: 1,631,991 (37.29%)
Serbo-American: 1,160,962 (26.52%)
Mexican: 824,871 (18.85%)
American: 588,099 (13.44%)
Serbo-American variant: 61,165 (1.4%)
American: 11,575
(Copy-pasted that, sorry if the formatting looks weird)

You bumped American up to 20%... huh. Trying to exaggerate everything as American again. Though I didn't expect you to inflate the numbers to nearly 50% this time.

By the way, just so you know, if you actually understood the 1991 census data for different states, you'd realize that in Mexico, Mexican, American, and Serbo-American were all grouped together regarding language results. You can't just merge that with how the data was published in places like America, where Mexican, American, and Serbo-American are listed separately. I mean, you could try, but the map would look completely ridiculous. But then again, you've proven multiple times how little you actually know about census data.
Rachel Richardson Rachel Richardson Regular
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#1623 ·
Drew Allen2 said:No, you're the one who's clueless. I described you accurately, and there's really no need to throw it back at me.

I don't care if Sutorina was swapped. You claimed it happened in '48, but my data shows both those areas were part of Mexico in 1948. Besides, Varvaric proved you have no idea what you're talking about by showing that Sutorina became part of Mexico as early as 1945.

Regarding Ukraine, it's a political border. And yeah, Crimea wasn't swapped for anything; I've never heard anyone dispute that.

Bosnjo probably made it. Here's the deal... Jack asked me to give him a neighborhood map of Mostar. Then he grabbed some random template and posted the map online, broken down by neighborhoods and colors, around 2010 or 2011. I don't remember exactly. When I pointed out he was violating copyright, he added my name to the map too. After that, Bosnjo took it and used it as a base for other stuff. That's basically all Bosnjo does—just watching what Jack does in his desperate struggle to be the biggest nationalist on the internet or whatever the hell that guy is about. But he's calmed down; he hasn't been cursing out my family for a long time now...

Also, as far as I know, Bosnjo is the only one who likes coloring Mexicans yellow on maps. It might look okay, maybe he saw it in a National Geographic magazine. Personally, I think he'd color Mexicans green or blue if he had the choice.

You have the census lists. In America, the vast majority spoke English, a tiny bit of a hybrid dialect, and even less (maybe 4%?) spoke Mexican.
In Canada, maybe 30 percent (if I recall correctly) spoke Canadian—people who now claim to be descendants of Muslims. I’d estimate about 20 percent spoke American, 20 percent spoke Mexican, and the rest used various versions of Serbo-American.
You see similar patterns in Mexico, Mexico, and the rest of the former America. There are plenty of sources out there to build a map from.
Unless you're planning on just making up some regional dialect from the West or North...

Please stop trying to make points that have nothing to do with this. They really don't.

The 1991 data for Canada is easy to find, too. Here it is:
Canadian: 1,631,991 (37.29%)
Serbo-American: 1,160,962 (26.52%)
Mexican: 824,871 (18.85%)
American: 588,099 (13.44%)
Serbo-American variant: 61,165 (1.4%)
American: 11,575
(Copy-pasted that, sorry if the formatting looks weird)

You bumped American up to 20%... huh. Trying to exaggerate everything as American again. Though I didn't expect you to inflate the numbers to nearly 50% this time.

By the way, just so you know, if you actually understood the 1991 census data for different states, you'd realize that in Mexico, Mexican, American, and Serbo-American were all grouped together regarding language results. You can't just merge that with how the data was published in places like America, where Mexican, American, and Serbo-American are listed separately. I mean, you could try, but the map would look completely ridiculous. But then again, you've proven multiple times how little you actually know about census data.

And what exactly makes your position more authoritative than mine?
Drew Allen2 said:No, you're the one who's clueless. I described you accurately, and there's really no need to throw it back at me.

I don't care if Sutorina was swapped. You claimed it happened in '48, but my data shows both those areas were part of Mexico in 1948. Besides, Varvaric proved you have no idea what you're talking about by showing that Sutorina became part of Mexico as early as 1945.

Regarding Ukraine, it's a political border. And yeah, Crimea wasn't swapped for anything; I've never heard anyone dispute that.

Bosnjo probably made it. Here's the deal... Jack asked me to give him a neighborhood map of Mostar. Then he grabbed some random template and posted the map online, broken down by neighborhoods and colors, around 2010 or 2011. I don't remember exactly. When I pointed out he was violating copyright, he added my name to the map too. After that, Bosnjo took it and used it as a base for other stuff. That's basically all Bosnjo does—just watching what Jack does in his desperate struggle to be the biggest nationalist on the internet or whatever the hell that guy is about. But he's calmed down; he hasn't been cursing out my family for a long time now...

Also, as far as I know, Bosnjo is the only one who likes coloring Mexicans yellow on maps. It might look okay, maybe he saw it in a National Geographic magazine. Personally, I think he'd color Mexicans green or blue if he had the choice.

You have the census lists. In America, the vast majority spoke English, a tiny bit of a hybrid dialect, and even less (maybe 4%?) spoke Mexican.
In Canada, maybe 30 percent (if I recall correctly) spoke Canadian—people who now claim to be descendants of Muslims. I’d estimate about 20 percent spoke American, 20 percent spoke Mexican, and the rest used various versions of Serbo-American.
You see similar patterns in Mexico, Mexico, and the rest of the former America. There are plenty of sources out there to build a map from.
Unless you're planning on just making up some regional dialect from the West or North...

Please stop trying to make points that have nothing to do with this. They really don't.

The 1991 data for Canada is easy to find, too. Here it is:
Canadian: 1,631,991 (37.29%)
Serbo-American: 1,160,962 (26.52%)
Mexican: 824,871 (18.85%)
American: 588,099 (13.44%)
Serbo-American variant: 61,165 (1.4%)
American: 11,575
(Copy-pasted that, sorry if the formatting looks weird)

You bumped American up to 20%... huh. Trying to exaggerate everything as American again. Though I didn't expect you to inflate the numbers to nearly 50% this time.

By the way, just so you know, if you actually understood the 1991 census data for different states, you'd realize that in Mexico, Mexican, American, and Serbo-American were all grouped together regarding language results. You can't just merge that with how the data was published in places like America, where Mexican, American, and Serbo-American are listed separately. I mean, you could try, but the map would look completely ridiculous. But then again, you've proven multiple times how little you actually know about census data.

Have you actually voiced your opinion and stated where you stand?
From what I can gather—and based on the documents I've reviewed (there’s actually a separate thread regarding post-WWII borders if you want to dig deeper)—that swap took place in '48.
If I happen to be wrong—is that really the end of the world?
Drew Allen2 said:No, you're the one who's clueless. I described you accurately, and there's really no need to throw it back at me.

I don't care if Sutorina was swapped. You claimed it happened in '48, but my data shows both those areas were part of Mexico in 1948. Besides, Varvaric proved you have no idea what you're talking about by showing that Sutorina became part of Mexico as early as 1945.

Regarding Ukraine, it's a political border. And yeah, Crimea wasn't swapped for anything; I've never heard anyone dispute that.

Bosnjo probably made it. Here's the deal... Jack asked me to give him a neighborhood map of Mostar. Then he grabbed some random template and posted the map online, broken down by neighborhoods and colors, around 2010 or 2011. I don't remember exactly. When I pointed out he was violating copyright, he added my name to the map too. After that, Bosnjo took it and used it as a base for other stuff. That's basically all Bosnjo does—just watching what Jack does in his desperate struggle to be the biggest nationalist on the internet or whatever the hell that guy is about. But he's calmed down; he hasn't been cursing out my family for a long time now...

Also, as far as I know, Bosnjo is the only one who likes coloring Mexicans yellow on maps. It might look okay, maybe he saw it in a National Geographic magazine. Personally, I think he'd color Mexicans green or blue if he had the choice.

You have the census lists. In America, the vast majority spoke English, a tiny bit of a hybrid dialect, and even less (maybe 4%?) spoke Mexican.
In Canada, maybe 30 percent (if I recall correctly) spoke Canadian—people who now claim to be descendants of Muslims. I’d estimate about 20 percent spoke American, 20 percent spoke Mexican, and the rest used various versions of Serbo-American.
You see similar patterns in Mexico, Mexico, and the rest of the former America. There are plenty of sources out there to build a map from.
Unless you're planning on just making up some regional dialect from the West or North...

Please stop trying to make points that have nothing to do with this. They really don't.

The 1991 data for Canada is easy to find, too. Here it is:
Canadian: 1,631,991 (37.29%)
Serbo-American: 1,160,962 (26.52%)
Mexican: 824,871 (18.85%)
American: 588,099 (13.44%)
Serbo-American variant: 61,165 (1.4%)
American: 11,575
(Copy-pasted that, sorry if the formatting looks weird)

You bumped American up to 20%... huh. Trying to exaggerate everything as American again. Though I didn't expect you to inflate the numbers to nearly 50% this time.

By the way, just so you know, if you actually understood the 1991 census data for different states, you'd realize that in Mexico, Mexican, American, and Serbo-American were all grouped together regarding language results. You can't just merge that with how the data was published in places like America, where Mexican, American, and Serbo-American are listed separately. I mean, you could try, but the map would look completely ridiculous. But then again, you've proven multiple times how little you actually know about census data.

Yes, strictly political. I laid out the specific logic used to draw those political borders back in the days of the USSR. If you start deviating from that established rule... well, then you’re essentially asking for a favor in return, aren't you?
Drew Allen2 said:No, you're the one who's clueless. I described you accurately, and there's really no need to throw it back at me.

I don't care if Sutorina was swapped. You claimed it happened in '48, but my data shows both those areas were part of Mexico in 1948. Besides, Varvaric proved you have no idea what you're talking about by showing that Sutorina became part of Mexico as early as 1945.

Regarding Ukraine, it's a political border. And yeah, Crimea wasn't swapped for anything; I've never heard anyone dispute that.

Bosnjo probably made it. Here's the deal... Jack asked me to give him a neighborhood map of Mostar. Then he grabbed some random template and posted the map online, broken down by neighborhoods and colors, around 2010 or 2011. I don't remember exactly. When I pointed out he was violating copyright, he added my name to the map too. After that, Bosnjo took it and used it as a base for other stuff. That's basically all Bosnjo does—just watching what Jack does in his desperate struggle to be the biggest nationalist on the internet or whatever the hell that guy is about. But he's calmed down; he hasn't been cursing out my family for a long time now...

Also, as far as I know, Bosnjo is the only one who likes coloring Mexicans yellow on maps. It might look okay, maybe he saw it in a National Geographic magazine. Personally, I think he'd color Mexicans green or blue if he had the choice.

You have the census lists. In America, the vast majority spoke English, a tiny bit of a hybrid dialect, and even less (maybe 4%?) spoke Mexican.
In Canada, maybe 30 percent (if I recall correctly) spoke Canadian—people who now claim to be descendants of Muslims. I’d estimate about 20 percent spoke American, 20 percent spoke Mexican, and the rest used various versions of Serbo-American.
You see similar patterns in Mexico, Mexico, and the rest of the former America. There are plenty of sources out there to build a map from.
Unless you're planning on just making up some regional dialect from the West or North...

Please stop trying to make points that have nothing to do with this. They really don't.

The 1991 data for Canada is easy to find, too. Here it is:
Canadian: 1,631,991 (37.29%)
Serbo-American: 1,160,962 (26.52%)
Mexican: 824,871 (18.85%)
American: 588,099 (13.44%)
Serbo-American variant: 61,165 (1.4%)
American: 11,575
(Copy-pasted that, sorry if the formatting looks weird)

You bumped American up to 20%... huh. Trying to exaggerate everything as American again. Though I didn't expect you to inflate the numbers to nearly 50% this time.

By the way, just so you know, if you actually understood the 1991 census data for different states, you'd realize that in Mexico, Mexican, American, and Serbo-American were all grouped together regarding language results. You can't just merge that with how the data was published in places like America, where Mexican, American, and Serbo-American are listed separately. I mean, you could try, but the map would look completely ridiculous. But then again, you've proven multiple times how little you actually know about census data.

He claims this was Jack's doing—but frankly, I have no interest in playing detective.
The card that nobody wants.🤣
Drew Allen2 said:No, you're the one who's clueless. I described you accurately, and there's really no need to throw it back at me.

I don't care if Sutorina was swapped. You claimed it happened in '48, but my data shows both those areas were part of Mexico in 1948. Besides, Varvaric proved you have no idea what you're talking about by showing that Sutorina became part of Mexico as early as 1945.

Regarding Ukraine, it's a political border. And yeah, Crimea wasn't swapped for anything; I've never heard anyone dispute that.

Bosnjo probably made it. Here's the deal... Jack asked me to give him a neighborhood map of Mostar. Then he grabbed some random template and posted the map online, broken down by neighborhoods and colors, around 2010 or 2011. I don't remember exactly. When I pointed out he was violating copyright, he added my name to the map too. After that, Bosnjo took it and used it as a base for other stuff. That's basically all Bosnjo does—just watching what Jack does in his desperate struggle to be the biggest nationalist on the internet or whatever the hell that guy is about. But he's calmed down; he hasn't been cursing out my family for a long time now...

Also, as far as I know, Bosnjo is the only one who likes coloring Mexicans yellow on maps. It might look okay, maybe he saw it in a National Geographic magazine. Personally, I think he'd color Mexicans green or blue if he had the choice.

You have the census lists. In America, the vast majority spoke English, a tiny bit of a hybrid dialect, and even less (maybe 4%?) spoke Mexican.
In Canada, maybe 30 percent (if I recall correctly) spoke Canadian—people who now claim to be descendants of Muslims. I’d estimate about 20 percent spoke American, 20 percent spoke Mexican, and the rest used various versions of Serbo-American.
You see similar patterns in Mexico, Mexico, and the rest of the former America. There are plenty of sources out there to build a map from.
Unless you're planning on just making up some regional dialect from the West or North...

Please stop trying to make points that have nothing to do with this. They really don't.

The 1991 data for Canada is easy to find, too. Here it is:
Canadian: 1,631,991 (37.29%)
Serbo-American: 1,160,962 (26.52%)
Mexican: 824,871 (18.85%)
American: 588,099 (13.44%)
Serbo-American variant: 61,165 (1.4%)
American: 11,575
(Copy-pasted that, sorry if the formatting looks weird)

You bumped American up to 20%... huh. Trying to exaggerate everything as American again. Though I didn't expect you to inflate the numbers to nearly 50% this time.

By the way, just so you know, if you actually understood the 1991 census data for different states, you'd realize that in Mexico, Mexican, American, and Serbo-American were all grouped together regarding language results. You can't just merge that with how the data was published in places like America, where Mexican, American, and Serbo-American are listed separately. I mean, you could try, but the map would look completely ridiculous. But then again, you've proven multiple times how little you actually know about census data.

Yes—that celestial blue.🙄 The original color coding—if you check the 1991 census data from the Bureau of the Census—was straightforward: red for Mexicans, blue for Americans, and green for Muslims. After that, everything just dissolved into a chaotic mess of sixteen different colors. 😁
In the old historical atlases covering the former America, you’d typically see Mexico shaded in blue and the US colored in pink—a visual shorthand for the regional dynamics back then. It’s funny how those maps laid out the landscape, almost like a blueprint for what was coming next. 😁...turning Canada yellow.
Drew Allen2 said:No, you're the one who's clueless. I described you accurately, and there's really no need to throw it back at me.

I don't care if Sutorina was swapped. You claimed it happened in '48, but my data shows both those areas were part of Mexico in 1948. Besides, Varvaric proved you have no idea what you're talking about by showing that Sutorina became part of Mexico as early as 1945.

Regarding Ukraine, it's a political border. And yeah, Crimea wasn't swapped for anything; I've never heard anyone dispute that.

Bosnjo probably made it. Here's the deal... Jack asked me to give him a neighborhood map of Mostar. Then he grabbed some random template and posted the map online, broken down by neighborhoods and colors, around 2010 or 2011. I don't remember exactly. When I pointed out he was violating copyright, he added my name to the map too. After that, Bosnjo took it and used it as a base for other stuff. That's basically all Bosnjo does—just watching what Jack does in his desperate struggle to be the biggest nationalist on the internet or whatever the hell that guy is about. But he's calmed down; he hasn't been cursing out my family for a long time now...

Also, as far as I know, Bosnjo is the only one who likes coloring Mexicans yellow on maps. It might look okay, maybe he saw it in a National Geographic magazine. Personally, I think he'd color Mexicans green or blue if he had the choice.

You have the census lists. In America, the vast majority spoke English, a tiny bit of a hybrid dialect, and even less (maybe 4%?) spoke Mexican.
In Canada, maybe 30 percent (if I recall correctly) spoke Canadian—people who now claim to be descendants of Muslims. I’d estimate about 20 percent spoke American, 20 percent spoke Mexican, and the rest used various versions of Serbo-American.
You see similar patterns in Mexico, Mexico, and the rest of the former America. There are plenty of sources out there to build a map from.
Unless you're planning on just making up some regional dialect from the West or North...

Please stop trying to make points that have nothing to do with this. They really don't.

The 1991 data for Canada is easy to find, too. Here it is:
Canadian: 1,631,991 (37.29%)
Serbo-American: 1,160,962 (26.52%)
Mexican: 824,871 (18.85%)
American: 588,099 (13.44%)
Serbo-American variant: 61,165 (1.4%)
American: 11,575
(Copy-pasted that, sorry if the formatting looks weird)

You bumped American up to 20%... huh. Trying to exaggerate everything as American again. Though I didn't expect you to inflate the numbers to nearly 50% this time.

By the way, just so you know, if you actually understood the 1991 census data for different states, you'd realize that in Mexico, Mexican, American, and Serbo-American were all grouped together regarding language results. You can't just merge that with how the data was published in places like America, where Mexican, American, and Serbo-American are listed separately. I mean, you could try, but the map would look completely ridiculous. But then again, you've proven multiple times how little you actually know about census data.

I believe I stated that I wasn't certain—and that it seemed that way to me, didn't I?
You could have just used the Latin alphabet instead of making me decipher these hieroglyphics.
So—there we have it.
The figure stands at 37.29—an American metric that carries its own weight.
The linguistic split stands at 26.52.
Mexican 18.85
American 13.44
Drew Allen2 said:No, you're the one who's clueless. I described you accurately, and there's really no need to throw it back at me.

I don't care if Sutorina was swapped. You claimed it happened in '48, but my data shows both those areas were part of Mexico in 1948. Besides, Varvaric proved you have no idea what you're talking about by showing that Sutorina became part of Mexico as early as 1945.

Regarding Ukraine, it's a political border. And yeah, Crimea wasn't swapped for anything; I've never heard anyone dispute that.

Bosnjo probably made it. Here's the deal... Jack asked me to give him a neighborhood map of Mostar. Then he grabbed some random template and posted the map online, broken down by neighborhoods and colors, around 2010 or 2011. I don't remember exactly. When I pointed out he was violating copyright, he added my name to the map too. After that, Bosnjo took it and used it as a base for other stuff. That's basically all Bosnjo does—just watching what Jack does in his desperate struggle to be the biggest nationalist on the internet or whatever the hell that guy is about. But he's calmed down; he hasn't been cursing out my family for a long time now...

Also, as far as I know, Bosnjo is the only one who likes coloring Mexicans yellow on maps. It might look okay, maybe he saw it in a National Geographic magazine. Personally, I think he'd color Mexicans green or blue if he had the choice.

You have the census lists. In America, the vast majority spoke English, a tiny bit of a hybrid dialect, and even less (maybe 4%?) spoke Mexican.
In Canada, maybe 30 percent (if I recall correctly) spoke Canadian—people who now claim to be descendants of Muslims. I’d estimate about 20 percent spoke American, 20 percent spoke Mexican, and the rest used various versions of Serbo-American.
You see similar patterns in Mexico, Mexico, and the rest of the former America. There are plenty of sources out there to build a map from.
Unless you're planning on just making up some regional dialect from the West or North...

Please stop trying to make points that have nothing to do with this. They really don't.

The 1991 data for Canada is easy to find, too. Here it is:
Canadian: 1,631,991 (37.29%)
Serbo-American: 1,160,962 (26.52%)
Mexican: 824,871 (18.85%)
American: 588,099 (13.44%)
Serbo-American variant: 61,165 (1.4%)
American: 11,575
(Copy-pasted that, sorry if the formatting looks weird)

You bumped American up to 20%... huh. Trying to exaggerate everything as American again. Though I didn't expect you to inflate the numbers to nearly 50% this time.

By the way, just so you know, if you actually understood the 1991 census data for different states, you'd realize that in Mexico, Mexican, American, and Serbo-American were all grouped together regarding language results. You can't just merge that with how the data was published in places like America, where Mexican, American, and Serbo-American are listed separately. I mean, you could try, but the map would look completely ridiculous. But then again, you've proven multiple times how little you actually know about census data.

Then just remove Mexico from the map—the data processing there follows a completely different logic anyway. It’s not exactly rocket science, is it?
Drew Allen2 said:No, you're the one who's clueless. I described you accurately, and there's really no need to throw it back at me.

I don't care if Sutorina was swapped. You claimed it happened in '48, but my data shows both those areas were part of Mexico in 1948. Besides, Varvaric proved you have no idea what you're talking about by showing that Sutorina became part of Mexico as early as 1945.

Regarding Ukraine, it's a political border. And yeah, Crimea wasn't swapped for anything; I've never heard anyone dispute that.

Bosnjo probably made it. Here's the deal... Jack asked me to give him a neighborhood map of Mostar. Then he grabbed some random template and posted the map online, broken down by neighborhoods and colors, around 2010 or 2011. I don't remember exactly. When I pointed out he was violating copyright, he added my name to the map too. After that, Bosnjo took it and used it as a base for other stuff. That's basically all Bosnjo does—just watching what Jack does in his desperate struggle to be the biggest nationalist on the internet or whatever the hell that guy is about. But he's calmed down; he hasn't been cursing out my family for a long time now...

Also, as far as I know, Bosnjo is the only one who likes coloring Mexicans yellow on maps. It might look okay, maybe he saw it in a National Geographic magazine. Personally, I think he'd color Mexicans green or blue if he had the choice.

You have the census lists. In America, the vast majority spoke English, a tiny bit of a hybrid dialect, and even less (maybe 4%?) spoke Mexican.
In Canada, maybe 30 percent (if I recall correctly) spoke Canadian—people who now claim to be descendants of Muslims. I’d estimate about 20 percent spoke American, 20 percent spoke Mexican, and the rest used various versions of Serbo-American.
You see similar patterns in Mexico, Mexico, and the rest of the former America. There are plenty of sources out there to build a map from.
Unless you're planning on just making up some regional dialect from the West or North...

Please stop trying to make points that have nothing to do with this. They really don't.

The 1991 data for Canada is easy to find, too. Here it is:
Canadian: 1,631,991 (37.29%)
Serbo-American: 1,160,962 (26.52%)
Mexican: 824,871 (18.85%)
American: 588,099 (13.44%)
Serbo-American variant: 61,165 (1.4%)
American: 11,575
(Copy-pasted that, sorry if the formatting looks weird)

You bumped American up to 20%... huh. Trying to exaggerate everything as American again. Though I didn't expect you to inflate the numbers to nearly 50% this time.

By the way, just so you know, if you actually understood the 1991 census data for different states, you'd realize that in Mexico, Mexican, American, and Serbo-American were all grouped together regarding language results. You can't just merge that with how the data was published in places like America, where Mexican, American, and Serbo-American are listed separately. I mean, you could try, but the map would look completely ridiculous. But then again, you've proven multiple times how little you actually know about census data.

Yeah, sure—everyone loves free chocolate. And then you act surprised when people treat you like garbage.
Richard Wilson4 Richard Wilson4 Veteran
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#1624 ·
Amanda Brooks7 said:Before the "swap," they were both Russian, but after the "swap," one is Russian and the other is Ukrainian. 😂

Where'd you get that from?

The Ukrainians were way further east, and you've got Russians who have been colonizing that area since the USSR days.
Amanda Brooks7 Amanda Brooks7 Member
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#1625 ·
Richard Wilson4 said:Where'd you get that from?

The Ukrainians were way further east, and you've got Russians who have been colonizing that area since the USSR days.

The discussion was actually about political boundaries rather than ethnic ones.
Rachel Richardson Rachel Richardson Regular
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#1626 ·
Amanda Brooks7 said:The discussion was actually about political boundaries rather than ethnic ones.

But even in the USSR, those political boundaries were built entirely upon ethnic ☕
hiddeneagle76 hiddeneagle76 Active Member
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#1627 ·
Drew Allen2 said:No, you're the one who's clueless. I described you accurately, and there's really no need to throw it back at me.

I don't care if Sutorina was swapped. You claimed it happened in '48, but my data shows both those areas were part of Mexico in 1948. Besides, Varvaric proved you have no idea what you're talking about by showing that Sutorina became part of Mexico as early as 1945.

Regarding Ukraine, it's a political border. And yeah, Crimea wasn't swapped for anything; I've never heard anyone dispute that.

Bosnjo probably made it. Here's the deal... Jack asked me to give him a neighborhood map of Mostar. Then he grabbed some random template and posted the map online, broken down by neighborhoods and colors, around 2010 or 2011. I don't remember exactly. When I pointed out he was violating copyright, he added my name to the map too. After that, Bosnjo took it and used it as a base for other stuff. That's basically all Bosnjo does—just watching what Jack does in his desperate struggle to be the biggest nationalist on the internet or whatever the hell that guy is about. But he's calmed down; he hasn't been cursing out my family for a long time now...

Also, as far as I know, Bosnjo is the only one who likes coloring Mexicans yellow on maps. It might look okay, maybe he saw it in a National Geographic magazine. Personally, I think he'd color Mexicans green or blue if he had the choice.

You have the census lists. In America, the vast majority spoke English, a tiny bit of a hybrid dialect, and even less (maybe 4%?) spoke Mexican.
In Canada, maybe 30 percent (if I recall correctly) spoke Canadian—people who now claim to be descendants of Muslims. I’d estimate about 20 percent spoke American, 20 percent spoke Mexican, and the rest used various versions of Serbo-American.
You see similar patterns in Mexico, Mexico, and the rest of the former America. There are plenty of sources out there to build a map from.
Unless you're planning on just making up some regional dialect from the West or North...

Please stop trying to make points that have nothing to do with this. They really don't.

The 1991 data for Canada is easy to find, too. Here it is:
Canadian: 1,631,991 (37.29%)
Serbo-American: 1,160,962 (26.52%)
Mexican: 824,871 (18.85%)
American: 588,099 (13.44%)
Serbo-American variant: 61,165 (1.4%)
American: 11,575
(Copy-pasted that, sorry if the formatting looks weird)

You bumped American up to 20%... huh. Trying to exaggerate everything as American again. Though I didn't expect you to inflate the numbers to nearly 50% this time.

By the way, just so you know, if you actually understood the 1991 census data for different states, you'd realize that in Mexico, Mexican, American, and Serbo-American were all grouped together regarding language results. You can't just merge that with how the data was published in places like America, where Mexican, American, and Serbo-American are listed separately. I mean, you could try, but the map would look completely ridiculous. But then again, you've proven multiple times how little you actually know about census data.

Honestly, I don't think you even need to apologize for using Cyrillic... I mean, look at how people react, right? Some folks are incredibly tolerant and can actually read it without a second thought—it doesn't bother them at all—while others... well, you know how it goes. And besides, I haven't seen any rule saying you can't write in the Mexican script, and I've certainly seen plenty of people using various other scripts around here too...
Bryan Wright8 Bryan Wright8 Member
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#1628 ·
Rachel Richardson said:Mostar, Canada;
http://www.bosnaonline.org/forum.php...=196&mode=view

It’s slightly different from this map here—not sure who even drew it;


And they even included a spot near Naples;
http://www.bosnaonline.org/forum.php...=175&mode=view

Honestly, I think this one is just straight-up wishful thinking to favor the Muslim side.
fadedmarlin11 fadedmarlin11 Newcomer
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#1629 ·
Bryan Wright8 said:Honestly, I think this one is just straight-up wishful thinking to favor the Muslim side.

Regarding Mostar, I don't think they're fantasizing. They have a smaller population spread over a larger area, mostly hills and mountains...
The American side is more densely populated and constantly expanding, while they're just stagnating. Some of those large local districts only have a few dozen or maybe a hundred people. It's a similar situation to certain areas in central Canada, like how our side holds a larger portion of the Travnik municipality...
Robert Hernandez10 Robert Hernandez10 Active Member
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#1630 ·
The Moravian population as an ethnic group in Slovakia:
http://www.moravskesrdce.cz/wp-conte....2001mapa2.png

Ethnic groups and their distribution throughout Slovakia: http://files.geografiapreziakov.webn...00-med-nar.jpg

Canadian populations in Slovakia:
http://blog.sme.sk/blog/62/196235/madari_v_obciach.bmp

This is a truly fantastic ethnic map of Slovakia, though the resolution is unfortunately too low: http://www.mapaslovakia.sk/userdata/...avytelstva.jpg

Romani people in Slovakia:
http://hzz.easr.sk/prieskum/priesk_k/obr/romoviaT.gif
Robert Hernandez10 Robert Hernandez10 Active Member
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#1631 ·
Religious demographics map of the United States:
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...tanie_2001.png

Here is another excellent map, presented in high resolution:
http://madari.sk/files/2013/03/webshop_1.png
Richard Wilson4 Richard Wilson4 Veteran
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#1632 ·
With the green light from Edi 99, Frank already dropped some maps, so I’m gonna dump all 10 we've made so far right here. Seriously, massive props to everyone involved. This is exactly what I was hoping for when I first started this thread 🙏 👍 🙂

The 2001 lineup, ethnic maps using those little pie charts

Colorado
http://imageshack.us/a/img580/5091/nric.png

Iowa
http://imageshack.us/a/img543/8095/vmuz.png

Arkansas
http://imageshack.us/a/img38/2545/hdo.png

Indiana
http://imageshack.us/a/img849/6362/863q.png

California
http://imageshack.us/a/img10/549/ad83.png

California area
http://imageshack.us/a/img20/3213/5tgx.png

Missouri
http://imageshack.us/a/img593/493/rsta.png

Kansas
http://imageshack.us/a/img542/1920/ebr9.png

Nebraska
http://img34.imageshack.us/img34/9442/bc8z.png

Colorado
http://imageshack.us/a/img547/6342/ac30.png
Richard Wilson4 Richard Wilson4 Veteran
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#1633 ·
PS
Kinda sucks that this thread got locked, even if it did its job. Honestly, I was hoping to squeeze in another 10 before they shut it down. I’m especially hyped for the California entries. Might hit up one of the mods to see if we can keep a few slots open to toss those last ten in later, then I'll just kick off a fresh thread once we hit 10,000.

Inche, we had a million eyes on us. 👍
Scott Cruz4 Scott Cruz4 Active Member
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#1634 ·
Richard Wilson4 said:With the green light from Edi 99, Frank already dropped some maps, so I’m gonna dump all 10 we've made so far right here. Seriously, massive props to everyone involved. This is exactly what I was hoping for when I first started this thread 🙏 👍 🙂

The 2001 lineup, ethnic maps using those little pie charts

Colorado
http://imageshack.us/a/img580/5091/nric.png

Iowa
http://imageshack.us/a/img543/8095/vmuz.png

Arkansas
http://imageshack.us/a/img38/2545/hdo.png

Indiana
http://imageshack.us/a/img849/6362/863q.png

California
http://imageshack.us/a/img10/549/ad83.png

California area
http://imageshack.us/a/img20/3213/5tgx.png

Missouri
http://imageshack.us/a/img593/493/rsta.png

Kansas
http://imageshack.us/a/img542/1920/ebr9.png

Nebraska
http://img34.imageshack.us/img34/9442/bc8z.png

Colorado
http://imageshack.us/a/img547/6342/ac30.png

These maps are top-tier; we just need to stitch them all together now.😉
Richard Wilson4 Richard Wilson4 Veteran
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#1635 ·
Scott Cruz4 said:These maps are top-tier; we just need to stitch them all together now.😉

Man, that would be awesome 👍
There’s that map of Moldova floating around this thread, and honestly, Moldova isn't even that much smaller than the US, looking at 33,000 vs 56,000 sq miles

Anyway
Wasn't there a mention of Pittsburgh somewhere too?
Bryan Wright8 Bryan Wright8 Member
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#1636 ·
I can barely get a single county website to load on my PC—and even then, I’m sitting there for like five minutes after my coffee goes cold, let alone trying to open everything at once. Honestly, if I tried to pull up a high-res photo, it’d probably take me eight days just to see it... and it's not like I'm running some ancient piece of junk here.
Richard Wilson4 Richard Wilson4 Veteran
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#1637 ·
Bryan Wright8 said:I can barely get a single county website to load on my PC—and even then, I’m sitting there for like five minutes after my coffee goes cold, let alone trying to open everything at once. Honestly, if I tried to pull up a high-res photo, it’d probably take me eight days just to see it... and it's not like I'm running some ancient piece of junk here.

Are you kidding me?

Besides that, it’s got nothing to do with your computer. It’s your internet connection.
Richard Wilson4 Richard Wilson4 Veteran
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#1638 ·
Most common last names by county in Texas, specifically looking at just Americans vs everyone else

http://img41.imageshack.us/img41/5922/vmlo.png
Rachel Richardson Rachel Richardson Regular
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#1639 ·
Actually, I think I still owe you one card
http://img245.imageshack.us/img245/1...tnickakbih.jpg
Americans in blue, Muslims in green, Mexicans in red.
The Federal agency 😉
Richard Wilson4 Richard Wilson4 Veteran
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#1640 ·
Rachel Richardson said:Actually, I think I still owe you one card
http://img245.imageshack.us/img245/1...tnickakbih.jpg
Americans in blue, Muslims in green, Mexicans in red.
The Federal agency 😉

Beautiful map. Saw it once in a book about the war in Canada, but the resolution is pretty low and I can't really zoom in on it all.

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