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Sandra Morgan2 Sandra Morgan2 Active Member
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#21 ·
Benjamin Taylor6 said:I was wondering if anyone here has actually gone through any of these modern techniques.
What was the experience like—not just during the actual course, but how did things settle for you afterward?
http://www.esentio.eu/index.html

1. Intensive Gnosis
2. PEAT
3. DP4
4. Transcendent
5. Sunjata
6. Kreaton
7. Aspektik
8. Holographic Processing
9. Excalibur
10. Memento
11. Entity Processes
12. Transdimensional Breathing

This gentleman over here offers some very similar methods: http://www.vladimir-ivanov.com/

Personally, Slavinski doesn't impress me, so I've never been interested in his methods. He’s an interesting author, sure, but to me, this constant churning out of "new" techniques feels like a lucrative business model—kind of like those late-night infomercials or some shady guy like Earl selling questionable products: "We have a technique for every single one of your needs!"

Back in my hometown, I know people who jump from one thing to the next, following every spiritual circus performer that rolls into our small town. I don't think that's just a local thing; you find that everywhere.

The key is to dig in the same spot, using the same method, until you hit water and can actually build a well. Personally, I value the old yogic techniques because they are proven. I have zero respect for these newly composed methods from characters with dubious spiritual standing like Slavinski.
Benjamin Taylor6 Benjamin Taylor6 RegularOP
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#22 ·
Sandra Morgan2 said:Personally, Slavinski doesn't impress me, so I've never been interested in his methods. He’s an interesting author, sure, but to me, this constant churning out of "new" techniques feels like a lucrative business model—kind of like those late-night infomercials or some shady guy like Earl selling questionable products: "We have a technique for every single one of your needs!"

Back in my hometown, I know people who jump from one thing to the next, following every spiritual circus performer that rolls into our small town. I don't think that's just a local thing; you find that everywhere.

The key is to dig in the same spot, using the same method, until you hit water and can actually build a well. Personally, I value the old yogic techniques because they are proven. I have zero respect for these newly composed methods from characters with dubious spiritual standing like Slavinski.


Is it really that unusual? It seems like nobody actually likes Slavinski:

Well, except for our little fish here, born in '68, who actually went through a couple of his courses:
blueraven6 blueraven6 Member
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#23 ·
Benjamin Taylor6 said:Well, it *is* a game if there's no practical payoff at the end of the day. And honestly, even prayer and meditation can be nothing more than a game. There are two things one actually needs to master 😁
Back in the day, I personally finished four different Transcendental Meditation courses. But look—those were just techniques you were supposed to pick up at the seminar so you could actually USE them every single day. I mean, surely there's something within this massive pile of techniques that is meant for daily application, right?
Provided, of course, that it actually serves a purpose. If it doesn't yield results, then the whole thing is pointless.

You say it needs to be used daily. I wonder how many people you actually know who finished those courses, went through endless seminars, and even today, the second something new pops up, they scramble to sign up for another course just to see what it's about? Does the majority of these "spiritual seekers" spend over 20 years lost in these fantasies without ever moving past the starting line? Or do they just keep hunting for the next thing—new techniques, instant enlightenment...

Someone who has actually made progress will probably drop all of it because they won't need it anymore. Those little toys won't serve them unless they're trying to turn the whole thing into a business to make a buck.
Sandra Morgan2 Sandra Morgan2 Active Member
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#24 ·
Benjamin Taylor6 said:Is it really that unusual? It seems like nobody actually likes Slavinski:

Well, except for our little fish here, born in '68, who actually went through a couple of his courses:

The modern spiritual buffet is overflowing! We've got it all: nutritious soul food, heavy stuff that sits wrong, plus endless piles of spiritual junk food and fast food... there’s something for everyone. Which brings me to my question—what about you? Do you actually like Slavinski?
Benjamin Taylor6 Benjamin Taylor6 RegularOP
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#25 ·
Sandra Morgan2 said:The modern spiritual buffet is overflowing! We've got it all: nutritious soul food, heavy stuff that sits wrong, plus endless piles of spiritual junk food and fast food... there’s something for everyone. Which brings me to my question—what about you? Do you actually like Slavinski?

Well, he was actually my very first spiritual guide, since I stumbled upon his books when I was about 17—that was my introduction to everything. But that’s really where the connection ended. After that, I moved toward Transcendental Meditation. And, frankly, Slavinski holds some pretty strong opinions regarding Maharish Mahesh Yogi, much like how you feel about Slavinski himself.😢😲😁

Slavinski forum
Larry Wilson25 Larry Wilson25 Active Member
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#26 ·
How much do instructors teaching these techniques actually pull in?

And what’s the actual point of these methods—what are they even used for?

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Is there an age limit if someone wants to become a teacher and make a living doing it?
Lisa Cox4 Lisa Cox4 Member
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#27 ·
blueraven6 said:You say it needs to be used daily. I wonder how many people you actually know who finished those courses, went through endless seminars, and even today, the second something new pops up, they scramble to sign up for another course just to see what it's about? Does the majority of these "spiritual seekers" spend over 20 years lost in these fantasies without ever moving past the starting line? Or do they just keep hunting for the next thing—new techniques, instant enlightenment...

Someone who has actually made progress will probably drop all of it because they won't need it anymore. Those little toys won't serve them unless they're trying to turn the whole thing into a business to make a buck.

The sad truth is there aren't any permanent results in the sense that you get enlightened once and then spend the rest of your life glowing in the dark.

What matters is that people put in the work, regardless of which technique they pick (and honestly, it’s good that people have options so they can find what actually fits their personality). It's just like how you have to take the trash out of your house every day if you don't want to live in a dump, or how people who want to stay fit have to hit the gym constantly—spirituality works the exact same way. You need continuous self-work; that's the only way to actually move forward and clear out all the mental garbage being shoved in your face every single day. I wish there was some magic wand where you could just say "cookies" and be "cleansed," but unfortunately, that doesn't exist. Only long-term, steady, hands-on work gets you actual results, both in the physical world and the spiritual one.
wearyowl29 wearyowl29 Regular
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#28 ·
Larry Wilson25 said:How much do instructors teaching these techniques actually pull in?

And what’s the actual point of these methods—what are they even used for?

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Is there an age limit if someone wants to become a teacher and make a living doing it?

Why don't you try being a teacher yourself and then report back to us on how much you actually made...
Larry Wilson25 Larry Wilson25 Active Member
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#29 ·
I mean, if we're talking about pulling in $25k to $50k net in just a single month, that definitely catches my eye. Honestly, if it’s anything less than that, I probably wouldn't even bother—I'm pretty comfortable with what I'm making right now, though hey, there's always room to grow, right? 😁.

So, how long does the typical training period take to become a teacher?

The whole thing sounds like a really interesting career path.
wearyowl29 wearyowl29 Regular
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#30 ·
Larry Wilson25;40132432 said:A
Now, jumping from $25k to $50k net in a single month? That sounds pretty sweet on paper! Honestly, though, if it’s anything less than that, I probably wouldn't even bother. I’m actually quite happy with what I’m pulling in right now—though, hey, there's always room for a little more growth, right? 😁.


😂😂😂 Not to mention having to deal with the IRS taking their cut...

How long does the typical training take to become a teacher?

A lifetime...

It seems like an interesting career path.

It really is! It’s a bit like mining... you're just out there with a pickaxe, digging deep into the human soul to pull out all those hidden gems...
Benjamin Taylor6 Benjamin Taylor6 RegularOP
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#31 ·
Larry Wilson25 said:I mean, if we're talking about pulling in $25k to $50k net in just a single month, that definitely catches my eye. Honestly, if it’s anything less than that, I probably wouldn't even bother—I'm pretty comfortable with what I'm making right now, though hey, there's always room to grow, right? 😁.

So, how long does the typical training period take to become a teacher?

The whole thing sounds like a really interesting career path.

The only person I know who made serious bank was a genuine, wealthy guru. And he’s a local guy from St. Louis. When I first met him back in '83, he was practically a nobody—just some church mouse living a quiet life.

You can go to him for training:
But you really need to be a bit more advanced in those matters. 😁

http://www.makaj.org/en/training_basic.php

BASIC TRAINING
In addition to the major schools and Kundalini intensives already mentioned, Makaj basic training also includes the following courses, each lasting two weekends (you can find more detailed info and specific dates at our community centers):
Makaj Meditation
Makaj – School of Yoga
Healing Hands
Health, Evolution, and Physiognomy
Sex and Politherapy
Makaj – School of Love and Eroticism
John Joga-sutar and Makaj I
John Joga-sutar and Makaj II
Robert Joga-sutar and Makaj III
Michael Joga-sutar and Makaj IV
Victor Psihofonik and Makaj V
John Psihofonika or Sound, Voice, and Spirit I
John Psihofonika or Sound, Voice, and Spirit II
Death of the Ego
Spiritual Pedagogy – For the Young, the Old, and the Lovers
Group Work Pedagogy
Group Dynamics – The Decisive Factor for Success
Spirit is Gold
Spiritual Crises and Ecstasies
The guru discusses his latest insights.
Sandra Morgan2 Sandra Morgan2 Active Member
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#32 ·
Benjamin Taylor6 says:

Lost in the wilderness of this forum's reality...

Who's talking about what? Benjamin Taylor6 is obsessing over Makaji and Komaje-Makaja

Is this just some fascination, or just plain old male envy? 🙂

Or is it actually a disgrace? Like, who is this unrefined savage from the rural South? What does he think he’s doing—trying to sexually assault people with "multiple cosmic orgasms" and naked bodies? 😁

I've said it before: at this spiritual buffet, there is an abundance like nothing seen in history. Everyone can pick what they like. We can discuss why we don't want to eat something specific, but it isn't classy to drool over what others are being served on their own plates.

🙂
blueraven6 blueraven6 Member
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#33 ·
Lisa Cox4 said:The sad truth is there aren't any permanent results in the sense that you get enlightened once and then spend the rest of your life glowing in the dark.

What matters is that people put in the work, regardless of which technique they pick (and honestly, it’s good that people have options so they can find what actually fits their personality). It's just like how you have to take the trash out of your house every day if you don't want to live in a dump, or how people who want to stay fit have to hit the gym constantly—spirituality works the exact same way. You need continuous self-work; that's the only way to actually move forward and clear out all the mental garbage being shoved in your face every single day. I wish there was some magic wand where you could just say "cookies" and be "cleansed," but unfortunately, that doesn't exist. Only long-term, steady, hands-on work gets you actual results, both in the physical world and the spiritual one.

I might agree, but if a person just adopts various philosophies without looking at them critically, they won't achieve anything. I guess we both know how many people chasing that "spiritual" label just jump from one system to another, swapping techniques and views like they're changing clothes. They're just replacing old nonsense with new nonsense, and it never ends. There's no real progress there. But if progress means becoming a little calmer or wiser, or if those fantasies offered by these systems actually help someone find themselves, then maybe that's an achievement for them. People like that probably can't go much further, but I suppose that isn't necessary for them either. If spirituality just means believing in certain philosophies, reincarnation, or the idea of a soul traveling back and forth, then fine—maybe my understanding of spirituality is just wrong.🤷
Benjamin Taylor6 Benjamin Taylor6 RegularOP
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#34 ·
Sandra Morgan2 said:Benjamin Taylor6 says:

Lost in the wilderness of this forum's reality...

Who's talking about what? Benjamin Taylor6 is obsessing over Makaji and Komaje-Makaja

Is this just some fascination, or just plain old male envy? 🙂

Or is it actually a disgrace? Like, who is this unrefined savage from the rural South? What does he think he’s doing—trying to sexually assault people with "multiple cosmic orgasms" and naked bodies? 😁

I've said it before: at this spiritual buffet, there is an abundance like nothing seen in history. Everyone can pick what they like. We can discuss why we don't want to eat something specific, but it isn't classy to drool over what others are being served on their own plates.

🙂

Maybe it was envy twenty years ago, but not anymore. Honestly, I’d die if I had to deal with yet another tantric partner.😲 Here’s why:

or is he really just a disgrace... some unrefined savage from the sticks, thinking he's something special, going to sexually assault everyone with his "multiple cosmic orgasms"... 😁

I’ve said it before—spirituality is like a massive buffet, an absolute abundance unlike anything seen in history. Everyone has their own taste. We can argue about why we don't want to eat certain things, but it isn't classy to drool over what others are being served on their own plates...

🙂

Whether he's refined or unrefined is beside the point now. He has followers, much like Dragan here on this forum. For some reason, people have found something in him. So they follow. And his wives follow him too. Why? Only they know that.

And as for the buffet—all roads lead to Rome. But the question is, does Rome even exist? Or is Rome actually this song 😲 : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=udCC7K0Eedk?

Lisa Cox4 said:The sad truth is there aren't any permanent results in the sense that you get enlightened once and then spend the rest of your life glowing in the dark.

What matters is that people put in the work, regardless of which technique they pick (and honestly, it’s good that people have options so they can find what actually fits their personality). It's just like how you have to take the trash out of your house every day if you don't want to live in a dump, or how people who want to stay fit have to hit the gym constantly—spirituality works the exact same way. You need continuous self-work; that's the only way to actually move forward and clear out all the mental garbage being shoved in your face every single day. I wish there was some magic wand where you could just say "cookies" and be "cleansed," but unfortunately, that doesn't exist. Only long-term, steady, hands-on work gets you actual results, both in the physical world and the spiritual one.

I’ve always found myself wondering if this whole "cleansing" thing even exists. Honestly, it feels to me like using these techniques just ends up smearing everything and everyone with more mess. It’s like what those Zen Buddhists would say—who exactly went and dirtied you up in the first place that you feel the need to go scrubbing yourself clean through meditation?
Henry Fox2 Henry Fox2 Newcomer
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#35 ·
Benjamin Taylor6 said:Maybe it was envy twenty years ago, but not anymore. Honestly, I’d die if I had to deal with yet another tantric partner.😲 Here’s why:

or is he really just a disgrace... some unrefined savage from the sticks, thinking he's something special, going to sexually assault everyone with his "multiple cosmic orgasms"... 😁

I’ve said it before—spirituality is like a massive buffet, an absolute abundance unlike anything seen in history. Everyone has their own taste. We can argue about why we don't want to eat certain things, but it isn't classy to drool over what others are being served on their own plates...

🙂

Whether he's refined or unrefined is beside the point now. He has followers, much like Dragan here on this forum. For some reason, people have found something in him. So they follow. And his wives follow him too. Why? Only they know that.

And as for the buffet—all roads lead to Rome. But the question is, does Rome even exist? Or is Rome actually this song 😲 : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=udCC7K0Eedk?

I’ve always found myself wondering if this whole "cleansing" thing even exists. Honestly, it feels to me like using these techniques just ends up smearing everything and everyone with more mess. It’s like what those Zen Buddhists would say—who exactly went and dirtied you up in the first place that you feel the need to go scrubbing yourself clean through meditation?

Zen Buddhists would probably say all sorts of nonsensical things... the truth is we dirtied ourselves, so we have to clean ourselves up. Most people prefer having a visible method for purification, even if it really just comes down to willpower. That psychological effect does tend to work, I suppose.
Sandra Morgan2 Sandra Morgan2 Active Member
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#36 ·
Benjamin Taylor6 said:Maybe it was envy twenty years ago, but not anymore. Honestly, I’d die if I had to deal with yet another tantric partner.😲 Here’s why:

or is he really just a disgrace... some unrefined savage from the sticks, thinking he's something special, going to sexually assault everyone with his "multiple cosmic orgasms"... 😁

I’ve said it before—spirituality is like a massive buffet, an absolute abundance unlike anything seen in history. Everyone has their own taste. We can argue about why we don't want to eat certain things, but it isn't classy to drool over what others are being served on their own plates...

🙂

Whether he's refined or unrefined is beside the point now. He has followers, much like Dragan here on this forum. For some reason, people have found something in him. So they follow. And his wives follow him too. Why? Only they know that.

And as for the buffet—all roads lead to Rome. But the question is, does Rome even exist? Or is Rome actually this song 😲 : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=udCC7K0Eedk?

I’ve always found myself wondering if this whole "cleansing" thing even exists. Honestly, it feels to me like using these techniques just ends up smearing everything and everyone with more mess. It’s like what those Zen Buddhists would say—who exactly went and dirtied you up in the first place that you feel the need to go scrubbing yourself clean through meditation?

🙂😍 Well, it sounds to me like you might have been envious back then, and if so, you could probably use some advice from him today. I'm not sure what year Makaj was born, but man, he and his ladies are absolutely glowing.

Whether he's polished or crude is the real question. He has followers, like Dragan here on the forum. For some reason, people have found something in him. They follow him. And they follow his women. Why? Only they know that.

How can you ask "why"? Isn't it obvious? Merging the joy of copulation with the eternal bliss of God—isn't that the ultimate pleasure? Before you say anything else, let me ask you: what's wrong with enjoying both God and sex? It beats compulsively cleaning yourself, like you mentioned here:

It seems to me that using these cleansing techniques only ends up making everything and everyone dirty. As Zen Buddhists would say: who dirtied you in the first place that you feel the need to meditate to get clean?
Benjamin Taylor6 Benjamin Taylor6 RegularOP
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#37 ·
Sandra Morgan2 said:🙂😍 Well, it sounds to me like you might have been envious back then, and if so, you could probably use some advice from him today. I'm not sure what year Makaj was born, but man, he and his ladies are absolutely glowing.

Whether he's polished or crude is the real question. He has followers, like Dragan here on the forum. For some reason, people have found something in him. They follow him. And they follow his women. Why? Only they know that.

How can you ask "why"? Isn't it obvious? Merging the joy of copulation with the eternal bliss of God—isn't that the ultimate pleasure? Before you say anything else, let me ask you: what's wrong with enjoying both God and sex? It beats compulsively cleaning yourself, like you mentioned here:

It seems to me that using these cleansing techniques only ends up making everything and everyone dirty. As Zen Buddhists would say: who dirtied you in the first place that you feel the need to meditate to get clean?

I'm getting absolutely nothing out of Komaje-Makaja. Personally, I find myself much more aligned with another guru—one who happens to be the same age as Franjo and, as it turns out, was actually a colleague of mine back when I was working as a marine engineer: 😲 😁
Sandra Morgan2 Sandra Morgan2 Active Member
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#38 ·
Benjamin Taylor6 said:I'm getting absolutely nothing out of Komaje-Makaja. Personally, I find myself much more aligned with another guru—one who happens to be the same age as Franjo and, as it turns out, was actually a colleague of mine back when I was working as a marine engineer: 😲 😁

If you want my honest opinion—I don't see much difference in lifestyle between your guru and my Yorkshire Terrier.
Benjamin Taylor6 Benjamin Taylor6 RegularOP
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#39 ·
Sandra Morgan2 said:If you want my honest opinion—I don't see much difference in lifestyle between your guru and my Yorkshire Terrier.

The bottom line is that if the man is genuinely happy with his choices, then who cares? It doesn't matter if his brother or his late father couldn't stand him—that’s their problem, not his.

Besides, those terriers of yours actually need a partner when mating season rolls around. You have to lock them up in a separate room to make that happen (which is exactly what my fiancée used to do) or breed them just to sell the puppies. My buddy, a marine engineer, doesn't exactly need to be locked in a room until his "mating season" passes. 😲 😁
With him, that concept doesn't even exist. And with this other American guy, it's even less of an issue—he's pushing nearly 70.

Then there's this other fellow—an old soul, about 65. Unlike the first guy I mentioned, this one is absolutely loaded.
But he's become somewhat infamous for a certain "old school" saying. People kept telling him he should get married, and he just snapped back: "And why on earth would I want to pay to feed someone else's wife?" But honestly, he isn't exactly the perfect guru either; he spends his entire day wandering around carrying a little bag stuffed with newspaper clippings. He spends all his time badgering everyone around him, claiming that because of NASA's incompetence, a meteorite is going to smash into the country and kill most of us. He's basically acting like some kind of scientific witness for Jehovah.
Sandra Morgan2 Sandra Morgan2 Active Member
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#40 ·
Benjamin Taylor6 said:The bottom line is that if the man is genuinely happy with his choices, then who cares? It doesn't matter if his brother or his late father couldn't stand him—that’s their problem, not his.

Besides, those terriers of yours actually need a partner when mating season rolls around. You have to lock them up in a separate room to make that happen (which is exactly what my fiancée used to do) or breed them just to sell the puppies. My buddy, a marine engineer, doesn't exactly need to be locked in a room until his "mating season" passes. 😲 😁
With him, that concept doesn't even exist. And with this other American guy, it's even less of an issue—he's pushing nearly 70.

Then there's this other fellow—an old soul, about 65. Unlike the first guy I mentioned, this one is absolutely loaded.
But he's become somewhat infamous for a certain "old school" saying. People kept telling him he should get married, and he just snapped back: "And why on earth would I want to pay to feed someone else's wife?" But honestly, he isn't exactly the perfect guru either; he spends his entire day wandering around carrying a little bag stuffed with newspaper clippings. He spends all his time badgering everyone around him, claiming that because of NASA's incompetence, a meteorite is going to smash into the country and kill most of us. He's basically acting like some kind of scientific witness for Jehovah.

I know age catches up with everyone. Even though we hear on the forums that your "singer still crows loudly," I can see you're preoccupied—but there's really no need to try and convince me, or yourself, of the joys of impotence.🙂

There's actually one more American guy—an old soul, about 65. Unlike the first guy mentioned, this one has money coming out of his ears.
But he’s famous for a certain "old school" saying. People told him he should get married, but he just snapped back: "Why on earth would I want to feed someone else's wife?" He isn't exactly the perfect guru, though; he spends all day wandering around carrying a little bag stuffed with newspaper clippings. He constantly nags everyone that because of NASA's sloppiness, a meteorite is going to hit the country and kill most people. He acts like some kind of scientific witness for Jehovah.

Hahahahaha... man, you are something else! Such a vivid storyteller...

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