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Susan James Susan James Veteran
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#481 ·
Christian Richardson36 said:I’m not entirely sure if this is the right sub for this particular grievance, but I’m looking for some perspective on the following:

From the very first day of the school year, the elementary teacher was out on maternity leave;
for those first two weeks, the kids had a substitute instructor:
then, during the third week of classes—on Monday afternoon—the permanent teacher finally returns from leave and immediately announces to the students that there will be a parent-teacher conference tomorrow afternoon (Tuesday);
of course, I can't make it—I have prior commitments already on my calendar, plus I'm juggling the schedules of my two older children who are also in school;
and then, instead of an apology for the short notice, they send me a formal letter essentially holding me accountable—they even included this little diagram depicting a triangle of "Student – Teacher" and "School – Parent."

In any standard American school district, how much lead time is a teacher actually required to give before scheduling a parent meeting? To me, it feels incredibly unreasonable to suggest that 24 hours is sufficient notice—but if anyone here is familiar with the specific district policies or general educational standards regarding this, I would truly appreciate your insight.

I honestly don't know how much notice is needed, but the sooner the better. We shouldn't all be sitting around just waiting for a random note to drop in the backpack; surely they want as many parents to attend as possible. 🤔

Also, I personally feel it's important to give a heads-up if you can't make it (especially if you already know in advance that you won't be there).
That definitely falls under the responsibility within that little triangle she drew up. 🤣
Christian Richardson36 Christian Richardson36 Newcomer
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#482 ·
The crux of the matter is that I have another child attending this same school—and that teacher gave us a full week's notice regarding the parent-teacher conference. It was the exact same story for my high schooler. But for my youngest? Well, I had already committed to obligations for that Tuesday afternoon long before this popped up, so it’s incredibly frustrating when someone who should have started planning two weeks ago—but justifiably failed to do so—suddenly decides to hold me accountable instead.

What does "advance notice" actually mean in a practical sense? I didn't even find out until Monday night around 8:00 PM because that's when I finally walked through my front door, so if we're being strictly accurate, we're looking at less than 24 hours of lead time. That’s why I’m asking—I’ve been scouring the internet trying to find this school's official handbook or bylaws, which I assume should be public record—other schools in our district make them easily accessible... As for her little "triangular" logic—honestly, I could have had a surgery scheduled for that day, couldn't I? My kids are new to this school, so I haven't established a rapport with her yet. And she certainly doesn't know me—she has no idea what my schedule looks like, or what my kids have going on.

That’s why I’m looking for the legal perspective here. One shouldn't just assume that I'm unavailable for a meeting without considering all the underlying circumstances, right?
Susan James Susan James Veteran
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#483 ·
Christian Richardson36 said:The crux of the matter is that I have another child attending this same school—and that teacher gave us a full week's notice regarding the parent-teacher conference. It was the exact same story for my high schooler. But for my youngest? Well, I had already committed to obligations for that Tuesday afternoon long before this popped up, so it’s incredibly frustrating when someone who should have started planning two weeks ago—but justifiably failed to do so—suddenly decides to hold me accountable instead.

What does "advance notice" actually mean in a practical sense? I didn't even find out until Monday night around 8:00 PM because that's when I finally walked through my front door, so if we're being strictly accurate, we're looking at less than 24 hours of lead time. That’s why I’m asking—I’ve been scouring the internet trying to find this school's official handbook or bylaws, which I assume should be public record—other schools in our district make them easily accessible... As for her little "triangular" logic—honestly, I could have had a surgery scheduled for that day, couldn't I? My kids are new to this school, so I haven't established a rapport with her yet. And she certainly doesn't know me—she has no idea what my schedule looks like, or what my kids have going on.

That’s why I’m looking for the legal perspective here. One shouldn't just assume that I'm unavailable for a meeting without considering all the underlying circumstances, right?

Setting the legal stuff aside, you two really need to find a way to work together if your child is going to be in her class. I'm not sure if digging through the school handbook is going to help your communication or your future relationship (and that "triangle" thing 😍)
especially when it involves questioning why she didn't start two weeks earlier or why she didn't send notice sooner (honestly, it's possible she left a message for her substitute about the meeting, and the sub just missed it for whatever reason)

If you found out at 8:00 PM on Monday, you could have called Tuesday morning and just said, "I'm so sorry, I already have a commitment, but let me know when else I can stop by so we can meet."
Just some polite communication ☕

It isn't right for her to hold you accountable like that. She could have just given you a call to see if you could make it or when you'd be free to introduce yourselves.

I'm not trying to defend her, but just like you could have had a surgery scheduled for Tuesday afternoon, she could have had a perfectly valid reason to be out for those first two weeks.
I'm guessing she might have been using some leave to help her kid adjust to daycare after maternity leave 😬

And if she had her baby on September 17th, 2011, she wouldn't have needed to start two weeks early; she would have started now, once her maternity leave ended.
Or she would have had to end her leave two weeks early 🤔
rustydrifter10 rustydrifter10 Regular
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#484 ·
Christian Richardson36 said:The crux of the matter is that I have another child attending this same school—and that teacher gave us a full week's notice regarding the parent-teacher conference. It was the exact same story for my high schooler. But for my youngest? Well, I had already committed to obligations for that Tuesday afternoon long before this popped up, so it’s incredibly frustrating when someone who should have started planning two weeks ago—but justifiably failed to do so—suddenly decides to hold me accountable instead.

What does "advance notice" actually mean in a practical sense? I didn't even find out until Monday night around 8:00 PM because that's when I finally walked through my front door, so if we're being strictly accurate, we're looking at less than 24 hours of lead time. That’s why I’m asking—I’ve been scouring the internet trying to find this school's official handbook or bylaws, which I assume should be public record—other schools in our district make them easily accessible... As for her little "triangular" logic—honestly, I could have had a surgery scheduled for that day, couldn't I? My kids are new to this school, so I haven't established a rapport with her yet. And she certainly doesn't know me—she has no idea what my schedule looks like, or what my kids have going on.

That’s why I’m looking for the legal perspective here. One shouldn't just assume that I'm unavailable for a meeting without considering all the underlying circumstances, right?

Honestly, I don’t think you really need to dive into the legalities of this, though I totally get why you'd want to stay informed. At the end of the day, you two will sit down, you’ll show up at the school, and you can just explain that you couldn't make it because you weren't given enough notice—and that should be the end of it. 🙂 You’re meeting with your kid's teacher to get acquainted and stay in the loop, not appearing before a judge in a courtroom. 😁

Edit: nosorog 😍
Christian Richardson36 Christian Richardson36 Newcomer
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#485 ·
Susan James said:Setting the legal stuff aside, you two really need to find a way to work together if your child is going to be in her class. I'm not sure if digging through the school handbook is going to help your communication or your future relationship (and that "triangle" thing 😍)
especially when it involves questioning why she didn't start two weeks earlier or why she didn't send notice sooner (honestly, it's possible she left a message for her substitute about the meeting, and the sub just missed it for whatever reason)

If you found out at 8:00 PM on Monday, you could have called Tuesday morning and just said, "I'm so sorry, I already have a commitment, but let me know when else I can stop by so we can meet."
Just some polite communication ☕

It isn't right for her to hold you accountable like that. She could have just given you a call to see if you could make it or when you'd be free to introduce yourselves.

I'm not trying to defend her, but just like you could have had a surgery scheduled for Tuesday afternoon, she could have had a perfectly valid reason to be out for those first two weeks.
I'm guessing she might have been using some leave to help her kid adjust to daycare after maternity leave 😬

And if she had her baby on September 17th, 2011, she wouldn't have needed to start two weeks early; she would have started now, once her maternity leave ended.
Or she would have had to end her leave two weeks early 🤔

Here's my take—I wrote that her absence was justified. A mother has every right to be on leave, and that isn't the issue here. The real problem is that she showed up for her first day of work and immediately announced a meeting for the very next day. She knows full well that my child is new to this grade and this school, and that I don't have her contact information—unlike the parents of the other kids. And she surely knows that the principal has my contact info, if she was truly so desperate to see me specifically on Tuesday. On that same sheet with the contact triangle, she listed the meeting times as Monday afternoons and Wednesday mornings... fine, she probably mentioned that at a parent meeting—but what bothers me is the attitude. It's clearly based on the assumption that my child is her only student, or that I don't have any other responsibilities to juggle.

As for cooperating—on the first day of enrollment, the principal asked me for all my details, and as soon as she heard I work as a graphic designer, she immediately jumped in with, "Oh, well, then you can help us out with the school newsletter!" After receiving a letter like this from a staff member at the school, I am going to think very, very hard about whether I want to cooperate or if I can even trust the quality of what they do.
Charles Murphy6 Charles Murphy6 Active Member
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#486 ·
Christian Richardson36 said:Here's my take—I wrote that her absence was justified. A mother has every right to be on leave, and that isn't the issue here. The real problem is that she showed up for her first day of work and immediately announced a meeting for the very next day. She knows full well that my child is new to this grade and this school, and that I don't have her contact information—unlike the parents of the other kids. And she surely knows that the principal has my contact info, if she was truly so desperate to see me specifically on Tuesday. On that same sheet with the contact triangle, she listed the meeting times as Monday afternoons and Wednesday mornings... fine, she probably mentioned that at a parent meeting—but what bothers me is the attitude. It's clearly based on the assumption that my child is her only student, or that I don't have any other responsibilities to juggle.

As for cooperating—on the first day of enrollment, the principal asked me for all my details, and as soon as she heard I work as a graphic designer, she immediately jumped in with, "Oh, well, then you can help us out with the school newsletter!" After receiving a letter like this from a staff member at the school, I am going to think very, very hard about whether I want to cooperate or if I can even trust the quality of what they do.

There isn't actually a legal mandate dictating when that first parent meeting has to happen; it’s just decided during the first school board meeting at the start of the year, before the students even show up.
The only legal requirement is that they have to hold three or four parent meetings throughout the school year.
There is an unwritten rule that these meetings get scheduled within the first week of classes, and honestly, that leaves a incredibly tight window to notify parents.
Sure, the teacher might have been a bit tactless in how she handled it, but as a parent, please don't take it personally.
If anything, this shows she actually cares about getting everyone on the same page. Don't go to war over a simple misunderstanding right out of the gate. Just head to the info session and tell them you couldn't make the first one, and leave it at that.
Regarding that school newsletter thing... look, they shouldn't be begging for favors like that, but if they're actually doing the work, just tell them no and move on. I'm not sure if you're based in New York City or somewhere else, but the current financial situation for schools is absolute chaos, so I wouldn't be surprised if they're scrambling for resources everywhere. Schools obviously don't just fund themselves out of thin air. They might make a tiny bit if they rent out space, but most of their operating costs are covered by various government agencies that clearly don't have the budget, yet everyone just stays quiet about it...
Rachel Jones8 Rachel Jones8 Active Member
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#487 ·
Susan James said:Setting the legal stuff aside, you two really need to find a way to work together if your child is going to be in her class. I'm not sure if digging through the school handbook is going to help your communication or your future relationship (and that "triangle" thing 😍)
especially when it involves questioning why she didn't start two weeks earlier or why she didn't send notice sooner (honestly, it's possible she left a message for her substitute about the meeting, and the sub just missed it for whatever reason)

If you found out at 8:00 PM on Monday, you could have called Tuesday morning and just said, "I'm so sorry, I already have a commitment, but let me know when else I can stop by so we can meet."
Just some polite communication ☕

It isn't right for her to hold you accountable like that. She could have just given you a call to see if you could make it or when you'd be free to introduce yourselves.

I'm not trying to defend her, but just like you could have had a surgery scheduled for Tuesday afternoon, she could have had a perfectly valid reason to be out for those first two weeks.
I'm guessing she might have been using some leave to help her kid adjust to daycare after maternity leave 😬

And if she had her baby on September 17th, 2011, she wouldn't have needed to start two weeks early; she would have started now, once her maternity leave ended.
Or she would have had to end her leave two weeks early 🤔

Honestly, I don't see why anyone needs to give notice, especially if they drop a meeting date on you last minute. People show up if they can, and if not—they don't. The meeting happens regardless. It’s not like a dentist appointment or surgery where everything falls apart if one person misses it. You never see every single parent at any PTA meeting anyway. It's not like you get an unexcused absence or anything for skipping.
Who would you even call? The school secretary? It's not like teachers are handing out their personal cell numbers to every parent.

Christian Richardson36 said:I’m not entirely sure if this is the right sub for this particular grievance, but I’m looking for some perspective on the following:

From the very first day of the school year, the elementary teacher was out on maternity leave;
for those first two weeks, the kids had a substitute instructor:
then, during the third week of classes—on Monday afternoon—the permanent teacher finally returns from leave and immediately announces to the students that there will be a parent-teacher conference tomorrow afternoon (Tuesday);
of course, I can't make it—I have prior commitments already on my calendar, plus I'm juggling the schedules of my two older children who are also in school;
and then, instead of an apology for the short notice, they send me a formal letter essentially holding me accountable—they even included this little diagram depicting a triangle of "Student – Teacher" and "School – Parent."

In any standard American school district, how much lead time is a teacher actually required to give before scheduling a parent meeting? To me, it feels incredibly unreasonable to suggest that 24 hours is sufficient notice—but if anyone here is familiar with the specific district policies or general educational standards regarding this, I would truly appreciate your insight.

What does "holding someone accountable" actually mean here? Like, what did she specifically write?
Susan James Susan James Veteran
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#488 ·
Rachel Jones8 said:Honestly, I don't see why anyone needs to give notice, especially if they drop a meeting date on you last minute. People show up if they can, and if not—they don't. The meeting happens regardless. It’s not like a dentist appointment or surgery where everything falls apart if one person misses it. You never see every single parent at any PTA meeting anyway. It's not like you get an unexcused absence or anything for skipping.
Who would you even call? The school secretary? It's not like teachers are handing out their personal cell numbers to every parent.

What does "holding someone accountable" actually mean here? Like, what did she specifically write?

Back when I was in elementary school, whenever my parents got a note saying there was a parent-teacher conference on Thursday at 5:30 PM, they’d just sign it and write "Thanks, see you there" or "Sorry, we can't make it."
If they couldn't attend, they would call the school (this was back in the late 80s or early 90s), ask for the teacher's lounge, find the homeroom teacher, and ask when they could come by for an update instead.
Neither they nor the teachers had cell phones back then.
And just imagine, they managed to communicate 🥳

Now that everyone has smartphones, emails, digital planners, and all sorts of tech, you'd think people would feel more obligated to say they can't make it. 🤔
Actually, since the notice was given so last minute, it's important to tell the teacher that it isn't ideal—to let her know clearly, "We can't make it because this was organized on such short notice." 🤷

I remember when my daughter's preschool teacher told us there was a meeting on Thursday at 4:30 PM, and I immediately asked whether she or I should go.
The first time they scheduled it for 4:00 PM, I actually asked if we could move it a bit later... a few other parents felt the same way, so they ended up moving it to the next day at 5:00 PM. We could have all just stayed quiet, not shown up, or acted like rebels and showed up thirty minutes late, but we didn't. 🤔

To me, this is just basic courtesy. It's important to me when it comes to building a good relationship with the people I trust with my child's care.
Rachel Jones8 Rachel Jones8 Active Member
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#489 ·
Susan James said:Back when I was in elementary school, whenever my parents got a note saying there was a parent-teacher conference on Thursday at 5:30 PM, they’d just sign it and write "Thanks, see you there" or "Sorry, we can't make it."
If they couldn't attend, they would call the school (this was back in the late 80s or early 90s), ask for the teacher's lounge, find the homeroom teacher, and ask when they could come by for an update instead.
Neither they nor the teachers had cell phones back then.
And just imagine, they managed to communicate 🥳

Now that everyone has smartphones, emails, digital planners, and all sorts of tech, you'd think people would feel more obligated to say they can't make it. 🤔
Actually, since the notice was given so last minute, it's important to tell the teacher that it isn't ideal—to let her know clearly, "We can't make it because this was organized on such short notice." 🤷

I remember when my daughter's preschool teacher told us there was a meeting on Thursday at 4:30 PM, and I immediately asked whether she or I should go.
The first time they scheduled it for 4:00 PM, I actually asked if we could move it a bit later... a few other parents felt the same way, so they ended up moving it to the next day at 5:00 PM. We could have all just stayed quiet, not shown up, or acted like rebels and showed up thirty minutes late, but we didn't. 🤔

To me, this is just basic courtesy. It's important to me when it comes to building a good relationship with the people I trust with my child's care.

If the kid brought home a flyer with the notice, they could've just handled it themselves. But did they even bring it?
Quincy:
Back in the late 80s or early 90s, when they couldn't make it, they'd just call the school. They’d end up getting access to the teacher's lounge, hunting down the homeroom teacher, and asking when parent-teacher conferences were scheduled. Simple enough, right?
Neither the kids nor the teachers even had phones back then. Remember that?
Can you believe they actually talked to each other? 🥳
I don't get why anyone would bother calling the school to vent or ask questions. If you need info, you should already have it. If you couldn't make the parent-teacher meeting, just catch the first update available or swing by whenever you can to get caught up. Simple, right?
What do teachers even need to stop people from constantly breathing down their necks? They aren't just sitting around in the lounge all day anyway—they're usually out there in the classroom actually doing the work.
Quincy:
With cell phones, email, digital directories, and everything else at their fingertips, you really think they can just skip out without letting someone know? 🤔
Still clueless about the emails, cell numbers, or digital contact lists. If they actually have an email address, sending a quick note shouldn't be that hard... but if it were that simple, couldn't the teacher have just looped all the parents in a few days early?
Quincy:
I mean, since they gave me such short notice, I really should tell the teacher that this isn't okay. I need to be blunt with her—tell her straight up that I can't make it because the info came in way too late. Right? 🤷
You can always just update that later through the portal. Besides, if you get the notice too late to make the meeting, what are you supposed to do?
Quincy:
So the preschool teacher lets me know there's a parent meeting this Thursday at 4:30. I just look at her and ask if Mom or I should swing by.
I'm guessing you won't wait for a notification through your kid, but'll just go see for yourself. You'll definitely speak your mind once you do, right? Dealing with school kids is a whole different ballgame.
Quincy:
They first tried to get him in at 16, and I was like, can we maybe push that back a bit? A few other parents were saying the same thing to me, and by the next day, they moved him to 17. Honestly, we could have just stayed quiet or played the rebel and showed up thirty minutes late, right? 🤔
When a student tells you there’s a meeting tomorrow, you basically have zero notice. You show up when you can... or maybe you just don't make it at all.
Quincy:
To me, that’s just basic decency. It matters when I'm dealing with people I'm trusting with my kid.
Not for me. That isn't really about "decency" in my book. I totally agree that you need to build a good rapport with the people looking after your child, but... this isn't really the place for that. There are better ways to handle things than apologizing for missing a meeting you barely even knew about.
At these meetings, parents end up calling each other out, and the teacher knows exactly who shows up and who doesn't. If you're someone who shows up regularly and has a solid relationship with the teacher, why bother giving an excuse in advance for missing one? Just catch them during a quick check-in later to get the info and chat about everything—including why you couldn't make it. Honestly, if you stay on top of things, skipping an occasional parent meeting is perfectly normal.
Raymond Rivera6 Raymond Rivera6 Member
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#490 ·
I’m looking for some advice because I’m honestly so livid right now that I probably can’t think straight or be objective.
So, my son just started 5th grade. He moved from an elementary school to a middle school, which meant new subjects and new teachers, but everything was going fine for the most part. Back in 1st grade, we noticed some issues with his reading and writing—various tests, speech therapists, psychologists—until they finally diagnosed him with dyslexia in 2nd grade. That’s when our real battle began. It’s been constant daily practice and an incredible amount of effort on his part, but I can finally say those hurdles are mostly behind us. He reads technically well; when he writes quickly, he might make a tiny mistake here or there, but it’s negligible.
He came home from school last night and told me his English teacher called him stupid, and now he doesn't even want to talk about it. Now, I don't necessarily assume he's lying, but I suppose there's a possibility he misheard her—maybe she was just reprimanding him and he thought she was questioning his intelligence. I am desperately hoping it was just a misunderstanding. I’ve already reached out to a few parents whose kids he gets along with, asking them to see if their children heard what actually happened. And this is what happened: she called him up to the board to write something, and he swapped the letters 'b' and 'd' in two places. She told him to look closely and correct the error. He looked, didn't catch the mistake, and then she asked him if he was actually stupid or just pretending to be.
I've decided today that I need to go to the school, but I have no idea where to start. Should I go speak to her directly first? Should I go to the homeroom teacher or the principal? Do I actually have the right to make a massive scene over this, or am I overreacting by feeling like she humiliated my child in front of the entire class?
Any thoughts would be appreciated.
James Perez54 James Perez54 Active Member
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#491 ·
She humiliated him right in front of the whole class, which she had absolutely no right to do.

You need to go see her immediately and demand some accountability. She’ll probably try to deny everything😁, but don't back down—tell her you aren't afraid to take this straight to the principal if necessary.

Honestly, I would go even further and insist that the teacher apologizes to my child in front of the entire class. If she felt entitled to insult him in front of everyone, then she can own up to it in front of everyone too.

Good luck, and please let me know how it turns out.🙂
Jason Ortiz5 Jason Ortiz5 Regular
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#492 ·
You aren't overreacting.

Honestly, this is one of those situations where I personally have to just step back and let things settle for a few days. I usually have to lay low because if I don't, I end up reacting way too emotionally and doing stuff that isn't exactly the smartest move. Just take a second to think about how to handle this with the least amount of fallout for the kid. You know the vibe at your school better than anyone, but definitely say something.
rapidraven21 rapidraven21 Newcomer
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#493 ·
Dear princess,
I imagine this is tough for you, but I guess it might be best not to make school life any harder for your child. If I were in your shoes, I’d probably head straight to that teacher first (and maybe the homeroom teacher too) to have a polite conversation about what happened, much like how you explained things to us earlier. If she’s generally a good person, she’ll likely feel bad and try to make things right with your kid on her own. As for an apology—well, it doesn't really count unless it's sincere. An apology forced under pressure doesn't help anyone. It seems like a better idea to try resolving things directly with the teacher rather than immediately reporting it to the principal. I trust you'll handle everything the right way. Good luck.
Daniel Perez6 Daniel Perez6 Active Member
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#494 ·
Raymond Rivera6 said:I’m looking for some advice because I’m honestly so livid right now that I probably can’t think straight or be objective.
So, my son just started 5th grade. He moved from an elementary school to a middle school, which meant new subjects and new teachers, but everything was going fine for the most part. Back in 1st grade, we noticed some issues with his reading and writing—various tests, speech therapists, psychologists—until they finally diagnosed him with dyslexia in 2nd grade. That’s when our real battle began. It’s been constant daily practice and an incredible amount of effort on his part, but I can finally say those hurdles are mostly behind us. He reads technically well; when he writes quickly, he might make a tiny mistake here or there, but it’s negligible.
He came home from school last night and told me his English teacher called him stupid, and now he doesn't even want to talk about it. Now, I don't necessarily assume he's lying, but I suppose there's a possibility he misheard her—maybe she was just reprimanding him and he thought she was questioning his intelligence. I am desperately hoping it was just a misunderstanding. I’ve already reached out to a few parents whose kids he gets along with, asking them to see if their children heard what actually happened. And this is what happened: she called him up to the board to write something, and he swapped the letters 'b' and 'd' in two places. She told him to look closely and correct the error. He looked, didn't catch the mistake, and then she asked him if he was actually stupid or just pretending to be.
I've decided today that I need to go to the school, but I have no idea where to start. Should I go speak to her directly first? Should I go to the homeroom teacher or the principal? Do I actually have the right to make a massive scene over this, or am I overreacting by feeling like she humiliated my child in front of the entire class?
Any thoughts would be appreciated.

Not many people would step up like this. 👍

Raymond Rivera6 said:I’m looking for some advice because I’m honestly so livid right now that I probably can’t think straight or be objective.
So, my son just started 5th grade. He moved from an elementary school to a middle school, which meant new subjects and new teachers, but everything was going fine for the most part. Back in 1st grade, we noticed some issues with his reading and writing—various tests, speech therapists, psychologists—until they finally diagnosed him with dyslexia in 2nd grade. That’s when our real battle began. It’s been constant daily practice and an incredible amount of effort on his part, but I can finally say those hurdles are mostly behind us. He reads technically well; when he writes quickly, he might make a tiny mistake here or there, but it’s negligible.
He came home from school last night and told me his English teacher called him stupid, and now he doesn't even want to talk about it. Now, I don't necessarily assume he's lying, but I suppose there's a possibility he misheard her—maybe she was just reprimanding him and he thought she was questioning his intelligence. I am desperately hoping it was just a misunderstanding. I’ve already reached out to a few parents whose kids he gets along with, asking them to see if their children heard what actually happened. And this is what happened: she called him up to the board to write something, and he swapped the letters 'b' and 'd' in two places. She told him to look closely and correct the error. He looked, didn't catch the mistake, and then she asked him if he was actually stupid or just pretending to be.
I've decided today that I need to go to the school, but I have no idea where to start. Should I go speak to her directly first? Should I go to the homeroom teacher or the principal? Do I actually have the right to make a massive scene over this, or am I overreacting by feeling like she humiliated my child in front of the entire class?
Any thoughts would be appreciated.

If you feel like you've cooled off enough to stay calm, then go.
In my book, there's no point in jumping straight to the principal. It’d be better to talk to the teacher first, and maybe suggest a joint meeting with the teacher later on.

It probably makes more sense to keep the teacher in the loop; if you go in together, it won't look like you're just launching a solo attack.

That's just how I see it, and what I'd personally do. 😉

P.S. Since the school year just kicked off and everyone—both teachers and students—is still getting settled, she really shouldn't have said that.
Andrew Doyle Andrew Doyle Regular
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#495 ·
Raymond Rivera6 said:I’m looking for some advice because I’m honestly so livid right now that I probably can’t think straight or be objective.
So, my son just started 5th grade. He moved from an elementary school to a middle school, which meant new subjects and new teachers, but everything was going fine for the most part. Back in 1st grade, we noticed some issues with his reading and writing—various tests, speech therapists, psychologists—until they finally diagnosed him with dyslexia in 2nd grade. That’s when our real battle began. It’s been constant daily practice and an incredible amount of effort on his part, but I can finally say those hurdles are mostly behind us. He reads technically well; when he writes quickly, he might make a tiny mistake here or there, but it’s negligible.
He came home from school last night and told me his English teacher called him stupid, and now he doesn't even want to talk about it. Now, I don't necessarily assume he's lying, but I suppose there's a possibility he misheard her—maybe she was just reprimanding him and he thought she was questioning his intelligence. I am desperately hoping it was just a misunderstanding. I’ve already reached out to a few parents whose kids he gets along with, asking them to see if their children heard what actually happened. And this is what happened: she called him up to the board to write something, and he swapped the letters 'b' and 'd' in two places. She told him to look closely and correct the error. He looked, didn't catch the mistake, and then she asked him if he was actually stupid or just pretending to be.
I've decided today that I need to go to the school, but I have no idea where to start. Should I go speak to her directly first? Should I go to the homeroom teacher or the principal? Do I actually have the right to make a massive scene over this, or am I overreacting by feeling like she humiliated my child in front of the entire class?
Any thoughts would be appreciated.

Of course you should go. But listen, start by asking to speak with the classroom teacher first to get the full story—you need to find out exactly what happened and hear the teacher's side of things. Once you have the facts, you can certainly take it to the principal. In cases like this, the administration absolutely needs to be looped in; it’s the principal's job to set boundaries and make sure teachers know exactly where the line is drawn regarding student treatment.
Douglas Cox4 Douglas Cox4 Newcomer
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#496 ·
Didn't you mention during the enrollment process at that school that your child has dyslexia? While I am certainly not attempting to excuse the teacher's behavior in any way, shouldn't educators be thoroughly briefed on their students' specific needs?
Harold Miller Harold Miller Newcomer
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#497 ·
Douglas Cox4 said:Didn't you mention during the enrollment process at that school that your child has dyslexia? While I am certainly not attempting to excuse the teacher's behavior in any way, shouldn't educators be thoroughly briefed on their students' specific needs?

What an incredibly misguided take—no matter the circumstances, whether we are talking about dyslexia or anything else, a teacher simply shouldn't say things like that to a student... Mistakes happen, and let's not forget how much anxiety a child feels when starting a new grade, but none of that gives a teacher the right to insult a kid.
Mom—take a deep breath, get your thoughts in order, and head straight to the first-grade instructors before taking it up with the teacher in question. 👍
Jason Ortiz5 Jason Ortiz5 Regular
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#498 ·
Douglas Cox4 said:Didn't you mention during the enrollment process at that school that your child has dyslexia? While I am certainly not attempting to excuse the teacher's behavior in any way, shouldn't educators be thoroughly briefed on their students' specific needs?

And if they happen to be out of the loop, does that give them the right to just go rogue and ask kids if they're being "stupid" to find out? 😵
Douglas Cox4 Douglas Cox4 Newcomer
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#499 ·
Jason Ortiz5 said:And if they happen to be out of the loop, does that give them the right to just go rogue and ask kids if they're being "stupid" to find out? 😵

Oh, absolutely not! I certainly wasn't suggesting that her behavior was acceptable, but surely we can agree that at my son's school, when there are children dealing with dyslexia, the teachers are careful not to single them out at the chalkboard to avoid any unnecessary embarrassment?
Frank Thomas92 Frank Thomas92 Member
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#500 ·
Raymond Rivera6 said:I’m looking for some advice because I’m honestly so livid right now that I probably can’t think straight or be objective.
So, my son just started 5th grade. He moved from an elementary school to a middle school, which meant new subjects and new teachers, but everything was going fine for the most part. Back in 1st grade, we noticed some issues with his reading and writing—various tests, speech therapists, psychologists—until they finally diagnosed him with dyslexia in 2nd grade. That’s when our real battle began. It’s been constant daily practice and an incredible amount of effort on his part, but I can finally say those hurdles are mostly behind us. He reads technically well; when he writes quickly, he might make a tiny mistake here or there, but it’s negligible.
He came home from school last night and told me his English teacher called him stupid, and now he doesn't even want to talk about it. Now, I don't necessarily assume he's lying, but I suppose there's a possibility he misheard her—maybe she was just reprimanding him and he thought she was questioning his intelligence. I am desperately hoping it was just a misunderstanding. I’ve already reached out to a few parents whose kids he gets along with, asking them to see if their children heard what actually happened. And this is what happened: she called him up to the board to write something, and he swapped the letters 'b' and 'd' in two places. She told him to look closely and correct the error. He looked, didn't catch the mistake, and then she asked him if he was actually stupid or just pretending to be.
I've decided today that I need to go to the school, but I have no idea where to start. Should I go speak to her directly first? Should I go to the homeroom teacher or the principal? Do I actually have the right to make a massive scene over this, or am I overreacting by feeling like she humiliated my child in front of the entire class?
Any thoughts would be appreciated.

First, go to her. Emphasize that you are coming to her first out of professional courtesy and respect for her position.
Explain exactly how much work you both have put in to get him to this point, and then simply ask her what happened. Perhaps she didn't realize the context. Or, perhaps she should have restrained herself and checked in with the student or the parents instead of making that comment.
If she starts acting arrogant or defensive, tell her straight up:
- "I assumed a professional educator wouldn't say something like that. My apologies, but you aren't leaving me any choice but to take this to the principal."
Then you go. You schedule an appointment. If the secretary asks why, you tell them you have a formal complaint regarding a teacher who singled your son out at the board and questioned his intelligence. Remind them that your child is dyslexic and merely swapped two letters.
The secretary will do her job.
And then you decide how you want to handle things with the principal...
Ask why the subject teacher isn't aware of the information the homeroom teacher has.
Point out that 5th grade is a massive transition for a kid, and ask how they intend to handle a teacher who is essentially undermining a student right at the start of the school year.
And suggest a resolution yourself.
Maybe she apologizes to the class, or maybe just to him... some sort of reprimand...
Something that isn't overly dramatic and won't cause a total escalation... after all, he still has to have her as a teacher, but there needs to be some kind of symbolic gesture.
Please, just don't let them try to move him to a different class. Don't let that even be an option.
Looking back, I realized I didn't even think to involve the homeroom teacher before heading to the principal.

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