Why doesn't God share His knowledge?

analoghound4 said:We are witnessing the pinnacle of technology relative to the specific era we inhabit. While it is unlikely that we will colonize Mars or the Moon within our lifetimes, nor will we discover extraterrestrial life on other planets anytime soon, we cannot simply dismiss these theories, as most of them will eventually come to fruition in the future.

But in this age of Facebook, iPods, hybrids, robotics, and high-performance processors... my God... and this has been the trajectory for the last 2,000 years. 🤷 As for the gods prior to that period... I have no desire to go down that path.

posavac....🤣

Proudly representing my roots! You honestly think Jesus Christ and religion haven't shaped science? Look at where modern civilization actually thrives today... Is it in China? Tibet? India? The Middle East? Or right here in the West? It’s built on Christian foundations. Just imagine if those other places had this kind of spiritual momentum... I’ve already got the answer ready for whatever you ask next. Peace!...

rapidbear65 said:Proudly representing my roots! You honestly think Jesus Christ and religion haven't shaped science? Look at where modern civilization actually thrives today... Is it in China? Tibet? India? The Middle East? Or right here in the West? It’s built on Christian foundations. Just imagine if those other places had this kind of spiritual momentum... I’ve already got the answer ready for whatever you ask next. Peace!...

Well, let’s be real—Jesus Christ was essentially snoring through the Middle Ages. And because of that, the Middle Eastern nations were lightyears ahead of everyone else in Europe back then. Even China was a massive superpower during that era.
Then, suddenly, Christ woke up—maybe 200 or 300 years ago—and jumpstarted the whole scientific and industrial revolution across Europe and America. It was like a princess came along and shook him awake. 🙂🙂😁
It’s thanks to that awakening that both Europe and America became the powerhouses they are today.

Benjamin Taylor6 said:Well, let’s be real—Jesus Christ was essentially snoring through the Middle Ages. And because of that, the Middle Eastern nations were lightyears ahead of everyone else in Europe back then. Even China was a massive superpower during that era.
Then, suddenly, Christ woke up—maybe 200 or 300 years ago—and jumpstarted the whole scientific and industrial revolution across Europe and America. It was like a princess came along and shook him awake. 🙂🙂😁
It’s thanks to that awakening that both Europe and America became the powerhouses they are today.

"JESUS CHRIST" was actually struggling and bleeding out back then, my friend Benjamin Taylor6. He took a hit from their sword. Once he pushed back against those Islamic blades, we saw the Renaissance happen, if I remember right. We weren't just spreading faith; we were gathering knowledge too. I can tell exactly who’s looking for a handout and who actually respects the host... Global power centers always shift. Now it's Europe and the USA's turn. Just imagine if the power had stayed in Iran or North Korea instead?

Benjamin Taylor6 said:Well, let’s be real—Jesus Christ was essentially snoring through the Middle Ages. And because of that, the Middle Eastern nations were lightyears ahead of everyone else in Europe back then. Even China was a massive superpower during that era.
Then, suddenly, Christ woke up—maybe 200 or 300 years ago—and jumpstarted the whole scientific and industrial revolution across Europe and America. It was like a princess came along and shook him awake. 🙂🙂😁
It’s thanks to that awakening that both Europe and America became the powerhouses they are today.

The real reason? It’s because Christians were busy burning anything they deemed "pagan." From the 4th century onward, they torched libraries, wiped out piles of ancient texts, leveled temples, shut down philosophy schools, and even banned the Olympic Games. Honestly, they were probably the biggest dark ages troublemakers the world has ever seen. Luckily, the Arabs were much sharper at the time. They actually preserved those great European thinkers like Plato by keeping them in manuscripts, which is the only reason we know anything about them today. Things are different now, obviously, but I think it's important to be honest about how things actually went down.

rapidbear65 said:"JESUS CHRIST" was actually struggling and bleeding out back then, my friend Benjamin Taylor6. He took a hit from their sword. Once he pushed back against those Islamic blades, we saw the Renaissance happen, if I remember right. We weren't just spreading faith; we were gathering knowledge too. I can tell exactly who’s looking for a handout and who actually respects the host... Global power centers always shift. Now it's Europe and the USA's turn. Just imagine if the power had stayed in Iran or North Korea instead?

Every superpower has its era. Back in the Middle Ages, there were several crusades fought in His name. As a direct consequence of one of those conflicts, you had looting and the occupation of San Diego. Those miserable crusaders didn't even have enough money for a plane ticket to the Middle East 😢😲😁



http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Siege_of_San_Diego
Christ was sleeping again, instead of appearing on the city walls to tell His soldiers to stop wasting their time on such foolishness.😢🙂🙂

Susan Green15 said:A human being is not some hundred-headed monster.
It wasn't ME who took the apple; Adam took it.
It wasn't ME who desired to be wiser than God; it was Adam.
God is punishing me for something someone else did several thousand years ago.
This right here is a textbook example of manipulation and mental gymnastics.
If Adam is a man, then sure, you can argue that "a man desired to be like God because Adam was a man," but it is a completely nonsensical and illogical leap to claim that means I personally chose to be like God just because I am a man.

THIS IS A WORD GAME THAT HAS ABSOLUTELY NO CONNECTION TO LOGIC OR COMMON SENSE.

This kind of generalization is the very foundation of racism. You accuse an entire race based on bad experiences with a single individual from that group. That way of thinking is immoral.

It’s like if ONE Native American killed a white person, and you decided that "Native Americans decided to kill white people," so they all must be punished, leading you to wipe out all Native Americans simply because they are Native Americans.

If you were a member of a minority group and one person from that group committed a crime, and everyone in that group—including you—was punished because of it, you would be the first one to jump up and say that it's unjust and that you shouldn't be blamed for something someone else did.

Therefore, the example you provided, combined with the one I provided, demonstrates that believers are hypocritical and two-faced. It is both hypocritical and duplicitous to justify this line of reasoning in one instance while condemning it in another.

Your very existence is the result of decisions made by your ancestors.
From your perspective, all those generations of ancestors made the right calls—they survived life-or-death situations, they were vital, strong, productive, ambitious, brave, cunning, hypocritical... etc.—because, well, you exist.
Maybe if one of your ancestors (let’s call him Adam) had made a different choice, the world would be better, but would YOU even exist in that world?
He made a decision (and desired something), and the consequence is that YOU exist... yet then YOU distance yourself from that decision (or those decisions).

Susan Green15 said:A human being is not some hundred-headed monster.
It wasn't ME who took the apple; Adam took it.
It wasn't ME who desired to be wiser than God; it was Adam.
God is punishing me for something someone else did several thousand years ago.
This right here is a textbook example of manipulation and mental gymnastics.
If Adam is a man, then sure, you can argue that "a man desired to be like God because Adam was a man," but it is a completely nonsensical and illogical leap to claim that means I personally chose to be like God just because I am a man.

THIS IS A WORD GAME THAT HAS ABSOLUTELY NO CONNECTION TO LOGIC OR COMMON SENSE.

This kind of generalization is the very foundation of racism. You accuse an entire race based on bad experiences with a single individual from that group. That way of thinking is immoral.

It’s like if ONE Native American killed a white person, and you decided that "Native Americans decided to kill white people," so they all must be punished, leading you to wipe out all Native Americans simply because they are Native Americans.

If you were a member of a minority group and one person from that group committed a crime, and everyone in that group—including you—was punished because of it, you would be the first one to jump up and say that it's unjust and that you shouldn't be blamed for something someone else did.

Therefore, the example you provided, combined with the one I provided, demonstrates that believers are hypocritical and two-faced. It is both hypocritical and duplicitous to justify this line of reasoning in one instance while condemning it in another.

🤷
Honestly, I have no idea what racism has to do with anything I just wrote.
Different races share the same faith, including the one involving Adam and his "sin."

By the way,

One of the foundations of racism is when someone claims or writes (even as an example) that a member of one race killed a member of another.
One person killed another person; they might differ in skin color, eye color, build, Social Security number, or name... but somehow YOU highlighted the racial difference above everything else...

Susan Green15 said:A human being is not some hundred-headed monster.
It wasn't ME who took the apple; Adam took it.
It wasn't ME who desired to be wiser than God; it was Adam.
God is punishing me for something someone else did several thousand years ago.
This right here is a textbook example of manipulation and mental gymnastics.
If Adam is a man, then sure, you can argue that "a man desired to be like God because Adam was a man," but it is a completely nonsensical and illogical leap to claim that means I personally chose to be like God just because I am a man.

THIS IS A WORD GAME THAT HAS ABSOLUTELY NO CONNECTION TO LOGIC OR COMMON SENSE.

This kind of generalization is the very foundation of racism. You accuse an entire race based on bad experiences with a single individual from that group. That way of thinking is immoral.

It’s like if ONE Native American killed a white person, and you decided that "Native Americans decided to kill white people," so they all must be punished, leading you to wipe out all Native Americans simply because they are Native Americans.

If you were a member of a minority group and one person from that group committed a crime, and everyone in that group—including you—was punished because of it, you would be the first one to jump up and say that it's unjust and that you shouldn't be blamed for something someone else did.

Therefore, the example you provided, combined with the one I provided, demonstrates that believers are hypocritical and two-faced. It is both hypocritical and duplicitous to justify this line of reasoning in one instance while condemning it in another.

Interesting.
Why on earth would you think I’d be the first one jumping in to cry foul?

Susan Green15 said:A human being is not some hundred-headed monster.
It wasn't ME who took the apple; Adam took it.
It wasn't ME who desired to be wiser than God; it was Adam.
God is punishing me for something someone else did several thousand years ago.
This right here is a textbook example of manipulation and mental gymnastics.
If Adam is a man, then sure, you can argue that "a man desired to be like God because Adam was a man," but it is a completely nonsensical and illogical leap to claim that means I personally chose to be like God just because I am a man.

THIS IS A WORD GAME THAT HAS ABSOLUTELY NO CONNECTION TO LOGIC OR COMMON SENSE.

This kind of generalization is the very foundation of racism. You accuse an entire race based on bad experiences with a single individual from that group. That way of thinking is immoral.

It’s like if ONE Native American killed a white person, and you decided that "Native Americans decided to kill white people," so they all must be punished, leading you to wipe out all Native Americans simply because they are Native Americans.

If you were a member of a minority group and one person from that group committed a crime, and everyone in that group—including you—was punished because of it, you would be the first one to jump up and say that it's unjust and that you shouldn't be blamed for something someone else did.

Therefore, the example you provided, combined with the one I provided, demonstrates that believers are hypocritical and two-faced. It is both hypocritical and duplicitous to justify this line of reasoning in one instance while condemning it in another.

Let's get real: almost everyone is a bit two-faced and hypocritical at some point.
Believers know this and don't run from it—they call it sin and try to do better. But atheists (and anyone who identifies as such 😁) aren't exactly immune to being double-standarded or fake either.
It’s part of human nature. Honestly? I’d argue it’s even an evolutionary advantage.
But believing that God is good has absolutely nothing to do with being a hypocrite or having a double standard.

A believer thinks there’s a legitimate reason why things are the way they are.

YOU believe that such a reason simply can't exist.
And that's really all there is to it!

Side note:

I suppose it’s a pretty unsettling "realization" for a rational person to have—that we are surrounded by billions of hypocrites, double-dealers, and immoral people... potential bigots, really, whose minds are just a foggy, shapeless mess of ideas that defy any semblance of logic or common sense.

It's terrifying!

Harold Doyle3 said:Your very existence is the result of decisions made by your ancestors.
From your perspective, all those generations of ancestors made the right calls—they survived life-or-death situations, they were vital, strong, productive, ambitious, brave, cunning, hypocritical... etc.—because, well, you exist.
Maybe if one of your ancestors (let’s call him Adam) had made a different choice, the world would be better, but would YOU even exist in that world?
He made a decision (and desired something), and the consequence is that YOU exist... yet then YOU distance yourself from that decision (or those decisions).

🤷
Honestly, I have no idea what racism has to do with anything I just wrote.
Different races share the same faith, including the one involving Adam and his "sin."

By the way,

One of the foundations of racism is when someone claims or writes (even as an example) that a member of one race killed a member of another.
One person killed another person; they might differ in skin color, eye color, build, Social Security number, or name... but somehow YOU highlighted the racial difference above everything else...

Interesting.
Why on earth would you think I’d be the first one jumping in to cry foul?

Let's get real: almost everyone is a bit two-faced and hypocritical at some point.
Believers know this and don't run from it—they call it sin and try to do better. But atheists (and anyone who identifies as such 😁) aren't exactly immune to being double-standarded or fake either.
It’s part of human nature. Honestly? I’d argue it’s even an evolutionary advantage.
But believing that God is good has absolutely nothing to do with being a hypocrite or having a double standard.

A believer thinks there’s a legitimate reason why things are the way they are.

YOU believe that such a reason simply can't exist.
And that's really all there is to it!

Side note:

I suppose it’s a pretty unsettling "realization" for a rational person to have—that we are surrounded by billions of hypocrites, double-dealers, and immoral people... potential bigots, really, whose minds are just a foggy, shapeless mess of ideas that defy any semblance of logic or common sense.

It's terrifying!

If you weren't—if you actually remained consistent in your logic, whether we're discussing theology or just basic daily life—then I suppose I owe you an apology for even suggesting you might be two-faced or hypocritical.🙂

Look, it isn't my issue if people invent concepts like God.
As far as I'm concerned, He might actually exist.
Even if He doesn't, I have nothing against individuals inventing Him if it makes their lives easier to navigate or helps them cope with death.

However, the hypocrisy and double standards I see in most believers is a bit much for me. They tend to cherry-pick only the "good" parts while intentionally ignoring or twisting the darker aspects. They constantly market religion as this purely beautiful thing, despite knowing it's been a primary driver for wars and bloodshed, or they speak only of His grace when, in the Old Testament, His actions often seem more akin to the devil's.

And then, when faced with those very contradictions in a debate, they just play dumb, exhaust everyone with circular reasoning, and resort to empty platitudes.

Benjamin Taylor6 said:Every superpower has its era. Back in the Middle Ages, there were several crusades fought in His name. As a direct consequence of one of those conflicts, you had looting and the occupation of San Diego. Those miserable crusaders didn't even have enough money for a plane ticket to the Middle East 😢😲😁



http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Siege_of_San_Diego
Christ was sleeping again, instead of appearing on the city walls to tell His soldiers to stop wasting their time on such foolishness.😢🙂🙂

Spot on. But those Crusaders went from San Diego all the way to Istanbul and back. Our parents raise us and provide for us, and that’s pretty much it. After that, we make our own calls. We don't always follow their lead, and they can't protect us forever. It's the same way God taught us through Jesus. Now it's up to us. Peace!

Olivia Kern3 said:The real reason? It’s because Christians were busy burning anything they deemed "pagan." From the 4th century onward, they torched libraries, wiped out piles of ancient texts, leveled temples, shut down philosophy schools, and even banned the Olympic Games. Honestly, they were probably the biggest dark ages troublemakers the world has ever seen. Luckily, the Arabs were much sharper at the time. They actually preserved those great European thinkers like Plato by keeping them in manuscripts, which is the only reason we know anything about them today. Things are different now, obviously, but I think it's important to be honest about how things actually went down.

Man, you really know the "dark side" of Christianity. You should ask your old man about those honorable sisters over at the Cabin. And that’s not even all of it. Explain this to me though... I know the Turks were advanced in certain sciences for a while, but how was Muhammad illiterate? Who actually wrote the first Quran? Seems like more of my fellow vassals are popping up on this forum! Cheers!...

rapidbear65 said:Spot on. But those Crusaders went from San Diego all the way to Istanbul and back. Our parents raise us and provide for us, and that’s pretty much it. After that, we make our own calls. We don't always follow their lead, and they can't protect us forever. It's the same way God taught us through Jesus. Now it's up to us. Peace!

The Crusaders were meant to be Christ's soldiers. They needed the Holy Spirit to hover over them—to turn them from mere physical combatants into spiritual ones. But let's be honest, God can be quite stingy when it comes to distributing His gifts of the Holy Spirit. He usually hands them out in places where there isn't any obvious practical use.
And there's actually a song about that very thing:

Susan Green15 said:Look, my point was simply that it feels hypocritical and two-faced to claim:
"God "speaks" to us through: His works, everyday events, love, children, peace, and kindness..."
In other words, you're cherry-picking all the good things God does while intentionally ignoring the evil.

How do you justify listing only the positive attributes while conveniently omitting all the horrors?

Sure, love, children, peace, and kindness exist in this world, but so do hatred, malice, and war. Whether God directly orchestrates those atrocities—as described in the Bible—or allows them to happen through the hands of others, He still "speaks" to us through those dark acts as well.

Attempting to win an argument by suppressing essential facts just to make yourself look right isn't how a real discussion works.

What reality are you living in? God is love, and He only knows goodness. It is humans and Satan who are capable of doing evil.
Humans have the power to stop all the evil they produce, but they don't want to; instead, they intentionally spread it further and further and further. Wake up. Look into the Freemasons, the Illuminati, Big Pharma, the European Union—open your eyes.
How do you think pharmaceutical companies make their money? By inventing new diseases and selling shots against viruses.😲
That's just one example. Why doesn't God stop it?Because He wants us to become aware of the evil we commit so that we might finally put an end to it. That is how we truly become His children.
Do you even have eyes?

Benjamin Taylor6 said:Every superpower has its era. Back in the Middle Ages, there were several crusades fought in His name. As a direct consequence of one of those conflicts, you had looting and the occupation of San Diego. Those miserable crusaders didn't even have enough money for a plane ticket to the Middle East 😢😲😁



http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Siege_of_San_Diego
Christ was sleeping again, instead of appearing on the city walls to tell His soldiers to stop wasting their time on such foolishness.😢🙂🙂

Jesus said, "Blessed are those who have not seen and yet have believed."
Jesus reveals himself to those who truly seek him with all their heart and soul. I have called upon his name from the depths of my being and received an answer. So, it is possible. I know, I know... you still don't get it, but it doesn't matter; one day, you will.🙂

Ronald Nelson2 said:Jesus said, "Blessed are those who have not seen and yet have believed."
Jesus reveals himself to those who truly seek him with all their heart and soul. I have called upon his name from the depths of my being and received an answer. So, it is possible. I know, I know... you still don't get it, but it doesn't matter; one day, you will.🙂

You are genuinely concerning me... your posts are becoming increasingly troubling.🤷

What exactly? Ask a specific question... and I shall demand a specific answer!

rapidbear65 said:Proudly representing my roots! You honestly think Jesus Christ and religion haven't shaped science? Look at where modern civilization actually thrives today... Is it in China? Tibet? India? The Middle East? Or right here in the West? It’s built on Christian foundations. Just imagine if those other places had this kind of spiritual momentum... I’ve already got the answer ready for whatever you ask next. Peace!...

Nah, let's be real—religion was basically designed just to keep the primitive, broke masses from asking too many questions.

I’ve always felt the whole thing was designed just to keep people paralyzed—kept them stuck in this loop of fear, mindless obedience, and total confusion.
If you actually bother to look at the imagery, everyone on the altar looks frail, thin, and utterly broken, acting as if they don't even exist—
while the real leaders in the crowd are simply the ones who refuse to stop groveling.
As for Jesus, he’s a decent enough figure, regardless of whether the history books actually back him up or not.

KeyCode Asks:
If I hadn't... if you actually stayed consistent in how you approach things—whether we’re talking about religion or just basic daily life—then I’d be apologizing for even suggesting you were being two-faced and hypocritical. 🙂.

Lately—and I don’t mean just yesterday, either—I’ve been acting like a total hypocrite. A complete two-faced fraud. It's not my finest hour, clearly.
I’ve spent way too much time trying to comfort someone who is deathly ill. I kept trying to spin things in a positive light—interpreting everything through this rose-colored lens even when reality was screaming otherwise. I kept insisting that everything would turn out fine, even though... well, deep down, I knew it wouldn't. It's exhausting, honestly. Trying to manufacture hope when you can see the writing on the wall is a special kind of madness. I guess I just hate facing the truth sometimes.
I did it all for them. Purely out of love.
And I'll just do it all over again.

Susan Green15 said:If you weren't—if you actually remained consistent in your logic, whether we're discussing theology or just basic daily life—then I suppose I owe you an apology for even suggesting you might be two-faced or hypocritical.🙂

Look, it isn't my issue if people invent concepts like God.
As far as I'm concerned, He might actually exist.
Even if He doesn't, I have nothing against individuals inventing Him if it makes their lives easier to navigate or helps them cope with death.

However, the hypocrisy and double standards I see in most believers is a bit much for me. They tend to cherry-pick only the "good" parts while intentionally ignoring or twisting the darker aspects. They constantly market religion as this purely beautiful thing, despite knowing it's been a primary driver for wars and bloodshed, or they speak only of His grace when, in the Old Testament, His actions often seem more akin to the devil's.

And then, when faced with those very contradictions in a debate, they just play dumb, exhaust everyone with circular reasoning, and resort to empty platitudes.

If they cooked up that whole lie just to justify inventing an imaginary enemy to make their lives miserable, then what was even the point of the deception in the first place?

Susan Green15 said:If you weren't—if you actually remained consistent in your logic, whether we're discussing theology or just basic daily life—then I suppose I owe you an apology for even suggesting you might be two-faced or hypocritical.🙂

Look, it isn't my issue if people invent concepts like God.
As far as I'm concerned, He might actually exist.
Even if He doesn't, I have nothing against individuals inventing Him if it makes their lives easier to navigate or helps them cope with death.

However, the hypocrisy and double standards I see in most believers is a bit much for me. They tend to cherry-pick only the "good" parts while intentionally ignoring or twisting the darker aspects. They constantly market religion as this purely beautiful thing, despite knowing it's been a primary driver for wars and bloodshed, or they speak only of His grace when, in the Old Testament, His actions often seem more akin to the devil's.

And then, when faced with those very contradictions in a debate, they just play dumb, exhaust everyone with circular reasoning, and resort to empty platitudes.

I mentioned recently that the very roots of religion can actually drive people toward atheism, acting as a tool for believers to manipulate the skeptics.
If we want an actual, unbiased look at why wars and killing happen, we can't just point the finger at religion and call it a day. That’s lazy. To get the full picture, you have to account for all the other variables at play. It's more complicated than that.

Susan Green15 said:If you weren't—if you actually remained consistent in your logic, whether we're discussing theology or just basic daily life—then I suppose I owe you an apology for even suggesting you might be two-faced or hypocritical.🙂

Look, it isn't my issue if people invent concepts like God.
As far as I'm concerned, He might actually exist.
Even if He doesn't, I have nothing against individuals inventing Him if it makes their lives easier to navigate or helps them cope with death.

However, the hypocrisy and double standards I see in most believers is a bit much for me. They tend to cherry-pick only the "good" parts while intentionally ignoring or twisting the darker aspects. They constantly market religion as this purely beautiful thing, despite knowing it's been a primary driver for wars and bloodshed, or they speak only of His grace when, in the Old Testament, His actions often seem more akin to the devil's.

And then, when faced with those very contradictions in a debate, they just play dumb, exhaust everyone with circular reasoning, and resort to empty platitudes.

It’s a messy reality, but plenty of believers just don't buy everything their religion tells them. There's always going to be friction between what people believe in their hearts and the official doctrine handed down from on high. It’s rarely as seamless as they want you to think.
Look, if someone truly believes in something, they can't just be perpetually hypocritical about it—because at that point, they don't actually believe it anymore.
Sure, even a believer might have moments of doubt regarding their faith... and I’m talking about deep-seated belief here, not just some superficial religious routine.

Ronald Nelson2 said:Jesus said, "Blessed are those who have not seen and yet have believed."
Jesus reveals himself to those who truly seek him with all their heart and soul. I have called upon his name from the depths of my being and received an answer. So, it is possible. I know, I know... you still don't get it, but it doesn't matter; one day, you will.🙂

You are being completely dense. Honestly, I don't even know why I bother—I've actually started two separate threads just to cover this specific topic. 🙂
1. Thread: http://www.forum.com/showthread.php?p=37412456
2. Thread: http://www.forum.com/showthread.php?t=697057

shadowhawk322 said:I’ve always felt the whole thing was designed just to keep people paralyzed—kept them stuck in this loop of fear, mindless obedience, and total confusion.
If you actually bother to look at the imagery, everyone on the altar looks frail, thin, and utterly broken, acting as if they don't even exist—
while the real leaders in the crowd are simply the ones who refuse to stop groveling.
As for Jesus, he’s a decent enough figure, regardless of whether the history books actually back him up or not.

Man, listen to you. This Catholic isn't afraid of God, people, or even death. The only thing I'm actually scared of is myself and how I live my life. That version of Mass you're describing? Never seen it before...

rapidbear65 said:Proudly representing my roots! You honestly think Jesus Christ and religion haven't shaped science? Look at where modern civilization actually thrives today... Is it in China? Tibet? India? The Middle East? Or right here in the West? It’s built on Christian foundations. Just imagine if those other places had this kind of spiritual momentum... I’ve already got the answer ready for whatever you ask next. Peace!...

It's honestly pretty wild that someone living in an age with infinite information can be this clueless about where the actual bedrock of modern society comes from. Let's get one thing straight: the roots of today's world definitely didn't sprout in Europe or any other Christian nation. Modern civilization is built on tech and scientific breakthroughs across the board. And the core of all that—starting with math and branching out into every scientific field and medicine—was established far outside the borders of today's Christian strongholds like Europe and America.

Benjamin Taylor6 said:You are being completely dense. Honestly, I don't even know why I bother—I've actually started two separate threads just to cover this specific topic. 🙂
1. Thread: http://www.forum.com/showthread.php?p=37412456
2. Thread: http://www.forum.com/showthread.php?t=697057

At the end of the day, the whole thing comes down to autosuggestion...☕