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Why doesn't God share His knowledge?

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Zachary Gonzalez8 Zachary Gonzalez8 Member
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joined Feb 2009
#281 ·
restlesstiger49 said:At the end of the day, the whole thing comes down to autosuggestion...☕

Are you just talking out of your ass here, or is this actually based on something you've lived through?
Thomas Davis6 Thomas Davis6 Member
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joined Aug 2010
#282 ·
Ronald Nelson2 said:What reality are you living in? God is love, and He only knows goodness. It is humans and Satan who are capable of doing evil.
Humans have the power to stop all the evil they produce, but they don't want to; instead, they intentionally spread it further and further and further. Wake up. Look into the Freemasons, the Illuminati, Big Pharma, the European Union—open your eyes.
How do you think pharmaceutical companies make their money? By inventing new diseases and selling shots against viruses.😲
That's just one example. Why doesn't God stop it?Because He wants us to become aware of the evil we commit so that we might finally put an end to it. That is how we truly become His children.
Do you even have eyes?

God, if He even exists, feels way too abstract to just pin down with a single word like "love." I mean, sure, when believers start talking about God, they always fall into that same predictable pattern—it’s always this long list of goodness, love, light, mercy, wisdom... you know the drill.
When people start trying to justify all the evil in themselves and the world around them, that’s when you see his dark mirror stepping onto the stage—the Unholy, Satan. Of course, you always get that whole "insight" where people claim God could wipe out Satan whenever He feels like it, but somehow He just chooses not to. They say He’s intentionally letting the Devil run wild just to test us. I guess that's how they make sense of it.
So, we're back to this logical loop again: If God is actually all-powerful and all-knowing, then He already knows exactly what’s going on in everyone's soul. I guess that makes Satan pretty much redundant if God doesn't even need a tempter to tell the difference between good and evil.
And even then, I guess believers just don't get it, and they definitely can't explain it.
Man, there’s just endless talk about Masons, the Illuminati, those reptilian overlords from some 4D Matrix, the Demiurge, and all those massive Big Pharma conspiracies. It’s a lot. I guess we really need to sit down and figure out what actually holds water and what's just straight-up paranoia or some sci-fi movie plot.
Honestly, I think people do evil to one another, not some entity called Satan. To me, Satan is just an archetype—kind of a projection of our own darkness. It seems like mystics throughout history have just used that concept to label a wicked spiritual force living in those lower astral planes, basically a way to explain how people get tempted and led astray.
Even if the Devil actually existed, I mean, are we really that full of ourselves? Like, are we all just massive egomaniacs thinking we’re important enough for him to even care about tempting us?
As for God and that whole idea of receiving knowledge "from above," it feels like some people are just totally bypassed by the Creator, no matter how hard they try. It makes it seem like you can only realize anything if the Almighty decides to grant you grace—and apparently, He’s pretty stingy with it. I guess maybe God is just sleeping on the job up in heaven, and then he finally wakes up right when some lost little sheep asks a question, gives a quick yawn, and tosses out a satisfying answer just to be done with it. And boom, suddenly that person is enlightened and happy.
I guess God just falls back asleep again, totally tuning out those thousands, maybe even millions of voices... It’s all upside down and backwards. Honestly, God, maybe a little less sleep next time?😁
Maria Robinson2 Maria Robinson2 Active Member
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joined Feb 2012
#283 ·
Benjamin Taylor6 said:The Crusaders were meant to be Christ's soldiers. They needed the Holy Spirit to hover over them—to turn them from mere physical combatants into spiritual ones. But let's be honest, God can be quite stingy when it comes to distributing His gifts of the Holy Spirit. He usually hands them out in places where there isn't any obvious practical use.
And there's actually a song about that very thing:

The Crusaders weren't actually Christ's soldiers—they belonged to the churches and earthly rulers.
Jesus' army isn't on Earth; His soldiers are angels in heaven.
Besides, Jesus Himself forbade warfare and bloodshed, so—anybody doing that (or having done that) can't really be categorized as a soldier of Jesus, not even symbolically... or even as a joke.

The fact that certain Christian denominations blessed the Crusades (and some of their members literally fought in them) probably just shows how little connection they have with God—both then and now. It's standard practice for clergy to preach peace while simultaneously blessing soldiers before they head off to war.
It seems somewhat foolish to lose faith in God because of people like that, since God has nothing to do with them—and frankly, we shouldn't either.
Ronald Nelson2 Ronald Nelson2 Member
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joined Feb 2012
#284 ·
Thomas Davis6 said:God, if He even exists, feels way too abstract to just pin down with a single word like "love." I mean, sure, when believers start talking about God, they always fall into that same predictable pattern—it’s always this long list of goodness, love, light, mercy, wisdom... you know the drill.
When people start trying to justify all the evil in themselves and the world around them, that’s when you see his dark mirror stepping onto the stage—the Unholy, Satan. Of course, you always get that whole "insight" where people claim God could wipe out Satan whenever He feels like it, but somehow He just chooses not to. They say He’s intentionally letting the Devil run wild just to test us. I guess that's how they make sense of it.
So, we're back to this logical loop again: If God is actually all-powerful and all-knowing, then He already knows exactly what’s going on in everyone's soul. I guess that makes Satan pretty much redundant if God doesn't even need a tempter to tell the difference between good and evil.
And even then, I guess believers just don't get it, and they definitely can't explain it.
Man, there’s just endless talk about Masons, the Illuminati, those reptilian overlords from some 4D Matrix, the Demiurge, and all those massive Big Pharma conspiracies. It’s a lot. I guess we really need to sit down and figure out what actually holds water and what's just straight-up paranoia or some sci-fi movie plot.
Honestly, I think people do evil to one another, not some entity called Satan. To me, Satan is just an archetype—kind of a projection of our own darkness. It seems like mystics throughout history have just used that concept to label a wicked spiritual force living in those lower astral planes, basically a way to explain how people get tempted and led astray.
Even if the Devil actually existed, I mean, are we really that full of ourselves? Like, are we all just massive egomaniacs thinking we’re important enough for him to even care about tempting us?
As for God and that whole idea of receiving knowledge "from above," it feels like some people are just totally bypassed by the Creator, no matter how hard they try. It makes it seem like you can only realize anything if the Almighty decides to grant you grace—and apparently, He’s pretty stingy with it. I guess maybe God is just sleeping on the job up in heaven, and then he finally wakes up right when some lost little sheep asks a question, gives a quick yawn, and tosses out a satisfying answer just to be done with it. And boom, suddenly that person is enlightened and happy.
I guess God just falls back asleep again, totally tuning out those thousands, maybe even millions of voices... It’s all upside down and backwards. Honestly, God, maybe a little less sleep next time?😁

If Satan or God didn't exist, there would be no balance in the world. It would be either absolute evil or absolute good. If God were to completely wipe out evil, life itself would lose its meaning. Everything would be perfect. That is why a person has to fight against Satan on their own.
Satan pushes a person to commit evil. God never sleeps. If you turn to Him, He is there. It is we who need to stay vigilant, not Him.
shadowhawk322 shadowhawk322 Newcomer
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#285 ·
rapidbear65 said:Man, listen to you. This Catholic isn't afraid of God, people, or even death. The only thing I'm actually scared of is myself and how I live my life. That version of Mass you're describing? Never seen it before...

Well then, hats off to you—you're a shining example!
I don't know what could serve as a better objective judgment than observing the people in my immediate circle; and from my experience, the most narrow-minded, irrational, and filled with prejudice and spite are often the very ones clutching a crucifix or something similar.
As a kid, actually, I planned on becoming a priest.😁
I have nothing against Catholicism as a way of life—in fact, I think the world would be a much more beautiful place for everyone if people actually lived by what Catholicism preaches.
wiredhound1 wiredhound1 Newcomer
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#286 ·
Ronald Nelson2 said:If Satan or God didn't exist, there would be no balance in the world. It would be either absolute evil or absolute good. If God were to completely wipe out evil, life itself would lose its meaning. Everything would be perfect. That is why a person has to fight against Satan on their own.
Satan pushes a person to commit evil. God never sleeps. If you turn to Him, He is there. It is we who need to stay vigilant, not Him.

Looks like someone spent way too much time in a cult and let them brainwash them.😁
Jason Nelson3 Jason Nelson3 Newcomer
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#287 ·
forbidden question =o
bluebison25 bluebison25 Active Member
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joined Feb 2012
#288 ·
Ronald Nelson2 said:If Satan or God didn't exist, there would be no balance in the world. It would be either absolute evil or absolute good. If God were to completely wipe out evil, life itself would lose its meaning. Everything would be perfect. That is why a person has to fight against Satan on their own.
Satan pushes a person to commit evil. God never sleeps. If you turn to Him, He is there. It is we who need to stay vigilant, not Him.

Either you have a wicked sense of humor and you're just messing with me—which I'm totally down for—or you've been reading way too much Dante's Divine Comedy and it's gone to your head. There is no middle ground.🤷
Morgan Brown5 Morgan Brown5 Member
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#289 ·
Ronald Nelson2 said:If Satan or God didn't exist, there would be no balance in the world. It would be either absolute evil or absolute good. If God were to completely wipe out evil, life itself would lose its meaning. Everything would be perfect. That is why a person has to fight against Satan on their own.
Satan pushes a person to commit evil. God never sleeps. If you turn to Him, He is there. It is we who need to stay vigilant, not Him.

Is there actually any kind of balance in the world? And by "world," let's be clear, I mean human civilization... 🤷

Honestly, things are such a mess when it comes to how people think and act that it feels like there isn't even a "higher power" up there to balance things out. But then again, it’s been this way for a long time...

Evil only exists among people, and it comes from them. No one can force a person's will—except when we do it to ourselves. We're the masters of our own fate, and God doesn't really have anything to do with it, especially regarding evil. As for "Satan," he isn't some cosmic rival to the Creator. He's more like an old-fashioned way to explain the chaos of the human spirit. It's a taboo, mystical concept used as an easy answer for why bad things happen, mostly because human ego won't let us take responsibility for our own actions...

And why bother playing that game? If you frame it as a battle between God and Satan, they somehow end up working in harmony through their opposition. It's a lovely, naive myth: "The world is a beautiful, balanced place; we need evil to appreciate good." But we've come a long way since the Stone Age, and circumstances have changed—mostly for the worse. For many people, life just as it stands today doesn't make much sense at all...

The world itself is a wonderful place, but humanity has lost its way. We are responsible for all the misery we cause. It seems like atheists get that better than anyone, except for those who still look at human progress as something to be celebrated...
bluebison25 bluebison25 Active Member
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joined Feb 2012
#290 ·
Is it "evil" when a dog lunges at a cat? Or when a pride of lions coordinates a hunt to take down a zebra or a giraffe just to stay alive? Is that some deep-seated human malice? What does any of that have to do with us? When a house cat kills a mouse, are we blaming the darkness in the human soul for that too? Does Earth really revolve around humanity? Does the sun and the entire cosmos orbit our little planet? Clearly, that’s just a delusion living in the heads of believers. Do they honestly think Earth is the center of the universe, and we're the center of Earth? Apparently, for some people, that's the reality.
Benjamin Taylor6 Benjamin Taylor6 Regular
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joined Apr 2017
#291 ·
Morgan Brown5 said:Is there actually any kind of balance in the world? And by "world," let's be clear, I mean human civilization... 🤷

Honestly, things are such a mess when it comes to how people think and act that it feels like there isn't even a "higher power" up there to balance things out. But then again, it’s been this way for a long time...

Evil only exists among people, and it comes from them. No one can force a person's will—except when we do it to ourselves. We're the masters of our own fate, and God doesn't really have anything to do with it, especially regarding evil. As for "Satan," he isn't some cosmic rival to the Creator. He's more like an old-fashioned way to explain the chaos of the human spirit. It's a taboo, mystical concept used as an easy answer for why bad things happen, mostly because human ego won't let us take responsibility for our own actions...

And why bother playing that game? If you frame it as a battle between God and Satan, they somehow end up working in harmony through their opposition. It's a lovely, naive myth: "The world is a beautiful, balanced place; we need evil to appreciate good." But we've come a long way since the Stone Age, and circumstances have changed—mostly for the worse. For many people, life just as it stands today doesn't make much sense at all...

The world itself is a wonderful place, but humanity has lost its way. We are responsible for all the misery we cause. It seems like atheists get that better than anyone, except for those who still look at human progress as something to be celebrated...

For certain things, man is truly to blame. Wars, looting, killings, assaults... but for other things, nature is the culprit: earthquakes, volcanoes, tsunamis, floods, fires, epidemics... And very often, a mathematician gets tangled up in our misfortunes too. That would be Mr. Johann Carl Friedrich Gauss. So many things are nothing more than a matter of statistics.
And the only way to defeat statistics is through knowledge.
Nancy Wilson2 Nancy Wilson2 Active Member
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joined Sep 2011
#292 ·
bluebison25 said:Is it "evil" when a dog lunges at a cat? Or when a pride of lions coordinates a hunt to take down a zebra or a giraffe just to stay alive? Is that some deep-seated human malice? What does any of that have to do with us? When a house cat kills a mouse, are we blaming the darkness in the human soul for that too? Does Earth really revolve around humanity? Does the sun and the entire cosmos orbit our little planet? Clearly, that’s just a delusion living in the heads of believers. Do they honestly think Earth is the center of the universe, and we're the center of Earth? Apparently, for some people, that's the reality.

It ultimately comes down to the individual—whether they choose to perceive an action as good or evil. Frankly, trying to force reality into neat little moral boxes isn't particularly wise; honestly, inventing these two arbitrary labels was probably one of our more misguided intellectual leaps. Things simply exist as they are.

As for the bolded part—yes, unfortunately, for some people, it is.
Morgan Brown5 Morgan Brown5 Member
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joined Oct 2012
#293 ·
Benjamin Taylor6 said:For certain things, man is truly to blame. Wars, looting, killings, assaults... but for other things, nature is the culprit: earthquakes, volcanoes, tsunamis, floods, fires, epidemics... And very often, a mathematician gets tangled up in our misfortunes too. That would be Mr. Johann Carl Friedrich Gauss. So many things are nothing more than a matter of statistics.
And the only way to defeat statistics is through knowledge.

I'm with you there. I was strictly referring to what we call the "Human factor."

An epidemic is also a human issue. Stress and negative thoughts wreck the immune system, leaving us vulnerable to acute illnesses. In a way, we're the ones at fault.

There’s another layer to this. Negative human thought acts like a spherical wave with specific properties, reacting with the planet's energy or the Earth's aura. This creates a dense sort of "fabric" or energetic sludge. If enough of it builds up, it has a massive negative impact on how the Earth functions normally. With over 7 billion people on the planet daily, each churning out thousands of negative thoughts, we aren't just hurting ourselves; we're damaging the Earth's aura as a living being.

The planet reacts to this more than once—though I won't say every single time. Just as humans follow a certain pattern of cause and effect, the planet follows its own laws and reactions. We understand how exhaust fumes affect the air, drive wind currents, trigger tornadoes and tsunamis, or damage the ozone layer. It's just that science hasn't yet caught up to the fact that the Earth's aura also reacts on an entirely different level.

So, even if it sounds wild to some, one of the most significant missions Christ carried out was precisely cleaning the planet's aura from the fallout of human negativity—clearing out those thoughts that cluster in the Earth's aura like tumors in a human body. Tesla's work and his inventions serve a similar purpose, even if all we see now are billions of engines scattered across the globe serving our own personal convenience.

Did Christ not "wash away our sins"? Sure, but he did it by cleansing the consequences of those sins. He tried to provide the original teachings intended to help people fix their way of thinking, thereby reducing negative thoughts and allowing for automatic spiritual progress. Without that, neither we nor the Earth would exist today; we’d probably look more like Mars. Unfortunately, those original teachings lost their positive power because they were repeatedly altered and distorted over time. We know the results of that through the Inquisition and countless "religious" wars.

Of course, not every natural disaster is caused by the Human factor, but many of them are... both the ones we know about and the ones we don't.
hiddenbear3 hiddenbear3 Active Member
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#294 ·
If Mother Earth simply cannot provide enough sustenance for the sheer number of people living on the planet today, then we are looking at either a fundamental flaw in the act of creation or some sort of massive cosmic imbalance; it has to be one or the other.

Look, if there is technically enough space and resources for everyone, yet we see so many people suffering from hunger, then the issue clearly isn't just the Human factor. I mean, don't get me wrong, there are certainly wealthy elites exploiting the system and shifting all the blame onto others, but they often have nothing to do with the specific regions struggling with water shortages or barren soil. It feels more like a deeper, existential reality—that hunger and plenty are inextricably linked, much like how every part of creation is built upon these inherent pairs of opposites.
Benjamin Taylor6 Benjamin Taylor6 Regular
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#295 ·
Morgan Brown5 said:I'm with you there. I was strictly referring to what we call the "Human factor."

An epidemic is also a human issue. Stress and negative thoughts wreck the immune system, leaving us vulnerable to acute illnesses. In a way, we're the ones at fault.

There’s another layer to this. Negative human thought acts like a spherical wave with specific properties, reacting with the planet's energy or the Earth's aura. This creates a dense sort of "fabric" or energetic sludge. If enough of it builds up, it has a massive negative impact on how the Earth functions normally. With over 7 billion people on the planet daily, each churning out thousands of negative thoughts, we aren't just hurting ourselves; we're damaging the Earth's aura as a living being.

The planet reacts to this more than once—though I won't say every single time. Just as humans follow a certain pattern of cause and effect, the planet follows its own laws and reactions. We understand how exhaust fumes affect the air, drive wind currents, trigger tornadoes and tsunamis, or damage the ozone layer. It's just that science hasn't yet caught up to the fact that the Earth's aura also reacts on an entirely different level.

So, even if it sounds wild to some, one of the most significant missions Christ carried out was precisely cleaning the planet's aura from the fallout of human negativity—clearing out those thoughts that cluster in the Earth's aura like tumors in a human body. Tesla's work and his inventions serve a similar purpose, even if all we see now are billions of engines scattered across the globe serving our own personal convenience.

Did Christ not "wash away our sins"? Sure, but he did it by cleansing the consequences of those sins. He tried to provide the original teachings intended to help people fix their way of thinking, thereby reducing negative thoughts and allowing for automatic spiritual progress. Without that, neither we nor the Earth would exist today; we’d probably look more like Mars. Unfortunately, those original teachings lost their positive power because they were repeatedly altered and distorted over time. We know the results of that through the Inquisition and countless "religious" wars.

Of course, not every natural disaster is caused by the Human factor, but many of them are... both the ones we know about and the ones we don't.

So, you think negative thoughts can actually affect the collective unconscious? Personally, I find their power to be pretty weak. Some people—let's call them sages—actually believe humans have the power to purge that negative energy. For instance, Maharishi Mahesh Yogi introduced different levels of meditation specifically so practitioners could "cleanse" the Earth of that negativity. In technical terms, they call it the MAHARISHI EFFECT.
How much truth is actually in that? Well, Mr. Plećka described it perfectly in one of his books: "While a couple thousand meditators were jumping around in a few circus tents, a handful of thieves broke into dozens of cars belonging to those very same jumpers." 😲😂

As for the theory that people are solely responsible for their own illnesses, I am wrote the following:

If you ever find yourself hanging out in heaven with my neighbor and my aunt—just a hypothetical scenario, of course—you aren’t going to have much luck selling them on that theory. You could probably convince my neighbor that he ended up there because of lung cancer caused by smoking two packs a day—he was a heavy smoker, a real habit, you know? But my aunt? There is absolutely no way you're convincing her she’s responsible for her own fate, dying from tuberculosis when she was only twenty-two.😲
restlesstiger49 restlesstiger49 Regular
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#296 ·
Zachary Gonzalez8 said:Are you just talking out of your ass here, or is this actually based on something you've lived through?

Experience, naturally.

Ronald Nelson2 said:If Satan or God didn't exist, there would be no balance in the world. It would be either absolute evil or absolute good. If God were to completely wipe out evil, life itself would lose its meaning. Everything would be perfect. That is why a person has to fight against Satan on their own.
Satan pushes a person to commit evil. God never sleeps. If you turn to Him, He is there. It is we who need to stay vigilant, not Him.

Why does perfection strip away all sense of meaning?
bluebison25 bluebison25 Active Member
84 messages
joined Feb 2012
#297 ·
Can you please explain what the Earth's aura actually is? And is this just your opinion, or do you know for a fact that human thoughts cause negative "work" within our planet? Explain how human thought can trigger any kind of planetary work—I'm a layman here, so please, walk me through it. Is it even possible for thoughts to move mountains???
Ronald Nelson2 Ronald Nelson2 Member
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#298 ·
wiredhound1 said:Looks like someone spent way too much time in a cult and let them brainwash them.😁

That’s a pretty low blow. I can only assume your intellect operates at that same level.
p.s. I'm 20 years old and I actually take care of myself.
Ronald Nelson2 Ronald Nelson2 Member
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joined Feb 2012
#299 ·
Morgan Brown5 said:Is there actually any kind of balance in the world? And by "world," let's be clear, I mean human civilization... 🤷

Honestly, things are such a mess when it comes to how people think and act that it feels like there isn't even a "higher power" up there to balance things out. But then again, it’s been this way for a long time...

Evil only exists among people, and it comes from them. No one can force a person's will—except when we do it to ourselves. We're the masters of our own fate, and God doesn't really have anything to do with it, especially regarding evil. As for "Satan," he isn't some cosmic rival to the Creator. He's more like an old-fashioned way to explain the chaos of the human spirit. It's a taboo, mystical concept used as an easy answer for why bad things happen, mostly because human ego won't let us take responsibility for our own actions...

And why bother playing that game? If you frame it as a battle between God and Satan, they somehow end up working in harmony through their opposition. It's a lovely, naive myth: "The world is a beautiful, balanced place; we need evil to appreciate good." But we've come a long way since the Stone Age, and circumstances have changed—mostly for the worse. For many people, life just as it stands today doesn't make much sense at all...

The world itself is a wonderful place, but humanity has lost its way. We are responsible for all the misery we cause. It seems like atheists get that better than anyone, except for those who still look at human progress as something to be celebrated...


We have progressed, sure. But psychologically and spiritually? Have we advanced enough that we don't see some people drowning in gold while others are dying in the streets? Hmm. In that regard, we haven't moved an inch.
And who created this chaos? Man did. Negative information spreads through the world much faster than positive news, so you always end up with a doubled perception of the darkness.
coppersailor28 coppersailor28 Active Member
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#300 ·
Ronald Nelson2 said:That’s a pretty low blow. I can only assume your intellect operates at that same level.
p.s. I'm 20 years old and I actually take care of myself.

Too much.

Ronald Nelson2 said:That’s a pretty low blow. I can only assume your intellect operates at that same level.
p.s. I'm 20 years old and I actually take care of myself.

If God wiped out evil entirely, life would lose its purpose. Perfection is boring.

Then there’s no point in even discussing "life after death"—the whole concept of ultimate bliss in heaven versus absolute misery in hell becomes completely meaningless.

That’s why you have to fight Satan on your own.

And why on earth would someone want to strip the meaning out of their own existence? You’re claiming that without evil, life loses its purpose. That's a stretch.

Satan drives people to commit evil.

Satan wants life to have purpose. A meaningless existence is evil, isn't it? And that’s why a good God wouldn't want to destroy evil in the first place. Or is that how you see it?

God never sleeps. If you reach out, He’s there. We’re the ones who need to stay awake, not Him.

And why stay awake? Just in case God decides to throw something good our way right when we’ve finally managed to balance out all the evil—you know, the moment we actually figure out how to run our own lives.

So, you’re claiming twenty years? That's a stretch.

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