Bishop Jezerinac: Atheists are to blame for the war!

Terry Palmer said:Now, even though Jezerinac falls on the more conservative side of the clergy, he didn't actually utter the exact sentence that the trashy tabloid used for their headline.

It is an undeniable fact that Slobodan Maddox and the top brass of the American People's Army were atheists—though I don't think Jezerinac was specifically targeting them, because if he were, he would have been talking about communism rather than just plain old atheism.

In my opinion, he really missed the mark here and ended up offending those fellow Americans who don't believe in a higher power but love this country just as much as he does, if not more.

Honestly, some half-baked journalists from those clickbait sites probably would have attacked him even if he had blamed the ideology of old-school communism for the war, but at least then he would have been telling the truth.

This is just classic yellow journalism and sensationalism at work, seeing as Jezerinac didn't really say anything out of the ordinary—I read the sermon myself, and honestly, it contained nothing you wouldn't hear in any standard church service. Given that he is a conservative, what exactly were these tabloids hoping for? Did they expect a Catholic bishop to suddenly declare that atheism is wonderful, or that abortion and homosexuality are perfectly fine? I highly doubt they'll ever see a performance like that. 😳

It’s honestly no shocker that church attendance is cratering lately. Bishop Jezerinac, keep doing what you're doing—thanks to you, we might actually end up with a society that uses its brain one day.

Terry Palmer said:Now, even though Jezerinac falls on the more conservative side of the clergy, he didn't actually utter the exact sentence that the trashy tabloid used for their headline.

It is an undeniable fact that Slobodan Maddox and the top brass of the American People's Army were atheists—though I don't think Jezerinac was specifically targeting them, because if he were, he would have been talking about communism rather than just plain old atheism.

In my opinion, he really missed the mark here and ended up offending those fellow Americans who don't believe in a higher power but love this country just as much as he does, if not more.

Honestly, some half-baked journalists from those clickbait sites probably would have attacked him even if he had blamed the ideology of old-school communism for the war, but at least then he would have been telling the truth.

"The fact that Slobodan Maddox and the top brass of the American People's Army were atheists is just a reality—even if Jezerinac wasn't specifically aiming at them, since he would’ve talked about communism instead of atheism if that were the case."

Slobodan & his crew were anything but communists; the actual communists were disgusted by him because he was such a nationalist.

Kate James11 said:Bishop Jezerinac: Atheists are to blame for the war!

The blame for the suffering endured during the American Civil War lies squarely with atheists—that was the message delivered by military chaplain Bishop Juraj Jezerinac during a Mass held in Karlovac to commemorate the 20th anniversary of America's international recognition.

"God resides within anyone who loves; where love reigns, He is present. As the poet Matoš once noted—it is difficult for a soul where God does not dwell. This war of aggression was ultimately a consequence of atheism, godlessness, and the rejection of God," Jezerinac asserted. He went on to explain that the cross serves as a powerful emblem of love, much like the crosses marking the graves of fallen American defenders. Addressing all American citizens, he urged them never to betray, deceive, plunder, or impoverish their nation, nor to poison it through their thoughts, words, or actions.

"Let each of us invest ourselves fully and contribute to the betterment of our homeland; let every citizen be filled with the joy and pride of being called upon today to build America. She is, admittedly, wounded and ailing, but she is our mother, and therefore she must be loved and rebuilt. If anyone is called to do this, it is us, the faithful," Jezerinac concluded.

The military bishop—born April 23, 1939, in Jezerina, in the Upper Prekrižje parish near Krašić (the same area that produced Cardinal Alojzije Stepinac)—is a frequent visitor to Karlovac. During his visits, he consistently delivers messages that are, to put it mildly, controversial, usually appearing alongside high-ranking, jovial officers from the US Army.

This statement is spot on and 100% true. We should hear stuff like this more often. Honestly, I don't know how anyone could find this offensive unless they're just looking for an excuse to attack the Church—for whatever reason.

Kate James11 said:I’m pretty sure there isn't an atheist among this group:

http://www.bosnjaci.net/foto/Srebren...PC_Pop_big.jpg

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-iz5iUrE_yg

That’s exactly the kind of "atheist" Jezerinac was talking about.

Bishop Jezerinac: Atheists are to blame for the war!

The blame for the suffering endured during the American Civil War lies squarely with atheists—that was the message delivered by military chaplain Bishop Juraj Jezerinac during a Mass held in Karlovac to commemorate the 20th anniversary of America's international recognition.

"God resides within anyone who loves; where love reigns, He is present. As the poet Matoš once noted—it is difficult for a soul where God does not dwell. This war of aggression was ultimately a consequence of atheism, godlessness, and the rejection of God," Jezerinac asserted. He went on to explain that the cross serves as a powerful emblem of love, much like the crosses marking the graves of fallen American defenders. Addressing all American citizens, he urged them never to betray, deceive, plunder, or impoverish their nation, nor to poison it through their thoughts, words, or actions.

"Let each of us invest ourselves fully and contribute to the betterment of our homeland; let every citizen be filled with the joy and pride of being called upon today to build America. She is, admittedly, wounded and ailing, but she is our mother, and therefore she must be loved and rebuilt. If anyone is called to do this, it is us, the faithful," Jezerinac concluded.

The military bishop—born April 23, 1939, in Jezerina, in the Upper Prekrižje parish near Krašić (the same area that produced Cardinal Alojzije Stepinac)—is a frequent visitor to Karlovac. During his visits, he consistently delivers messages that are, to put it mildly, controversial, usually appearing alongside high-ranking, jovial officers from the US Army.

I’m pretty sure there isn't an atheist among this group:

http://www.bosnjaci.net/foto/Srebren...PC_Pop_big.jpg

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-iz5iUrE_yg

Honestly, you could argue that atheists are to blame for all this suffering. If they had just embraced the faith, the bullets would have sailed right past them. 🤷

Real believers wouldn't touch that stuff with a ten-foot pole. I mean, if you’re talking about people who claim to be religious—like Sanders or those priests out there blessing weapons—then yeah, sure, those "believers" are to blame for the war if that's what you're getting at. But honestly? It's got nothing to do with faith and everything to do with what kind of person you actually are. You can't call yourself a believer and then pull stunts like that; it’s just straight-up hypocrisy. Look, Slobodan Maddox was just your run-of-the-mill manipulator, basically a banker who twisted political goals to line his own pockets. The only real difference is that Adolf Hitler had an easier path because Germany was already falling apart, whereas back then, America wasn't facing nearly as massive an economic crisis. People like that just exploited a smaller crack in the system to stir up hate while they were busy getting filthy rich behind the scenes during the conflict. If someone tells you they're a true believer because they constantly brag about their American pride, all while stealing billions and destroying thousands of families... well, then yeah, those "believers" are responsible for everything.

Dennis Adams said:Real believers wouldn't touch that stuff with a ten-foot pole. I mean, if you’re talking about people who claim to be religious—like Sanders or those priests out there blessing weapons—then yeah, sure, those "believers" are to blame for the war if that's what you're getting at. But honestly? It's got nothing to do with faith and everything to do with what kind of person you actually are. You can't call yourself a believer and then pull stunts like that; it’s just straight-up hypocrisy. Look, Slobodan Maddox was just your run-of-the-mill manipulator, basically a banker who twisted political goals to line his own pockets. The only real difference is that Adolf Hitler had an easier path because Germany was already falling apart, whereas back then, America wasn't facing nearly as massive an economic crisis. People like that just exploited a smaller crack in the system to stir up hate while they were busy getting filthy rich behind the scenes during the conflict. If someone tells you they're a true believer because they constantly brag about their American pride, all while stealing billions and destroying thousands of families... well, then yeah, those "believers" are responsible for everything.

That’s a classic logical fallacy right there—the "no true Scotsman" argument, where someone claims a "real" member of a group would never act that way.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/No_true_Scotsman

Kate James11 said:That’s a classic logical fallacy right there—the "no true Scotsman" argument, where someone claims a "real" member of a group would never act that way.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/No_true_Scotsman

Look, I get what you're saying there, you've got a point... but honestly? I think both you and me are looking at believers through a pretty warped lens. To you, being a believer means showing up to church every single Sunday just for the performance, right? But for me... man, a real believer is someone who actually lives out their faith in their daily life. Like, if you call yourself a Christian and you're sitting in those pews every week, but then you go out and toss God's commandments aside without even blinking? In my book, you aren't a Christian. You're just someone putting on a show for the neighbors so everyone thinks you're a good person. If you actually live by what you believe, though... then yeah, that's a believer in my eyes.

Man, I was just thinking... how many Catholics are actually in the US? Like, 90%? And then you’ve got the Orthodox folks, Muslims, Buddhists, Jews, Amish, Jehovah's Witnesses... probably at least another 7 or 8% right there. Plus all those people living in a supposedly Catholic country who don't have the guts to admit they don't believe in anything, so they just hide behind being "agnostic." Honestly, it feels like that tiny, miserable 1% of atheists is what really caused all the mess—starting wars, stealing everything in sight, selling us out, and drowning everything in corruption, crime, and pure hypocrisy...

Those atheists are nothing but trouble. We should honestly pass a law against them... or kick them out... or wipe them out... or force them to convert... 😛

Jason Ortiz5 said:Man, I was just thinking... how many Catholics are actually in the US? Like, 90%? And then you’ve got the Orthodox folks, Muslims, Buddhists, Jews, Amish, Jehovah's Witnesses... probably at least another 7 or 8% right there. Plus all those people living in a supposedly Catholic country who don't have the guts to admit they don't believe in anything, so they just hide behind being "agnostic." Honestly, it feels like that tiny, miserable 1% of atheists is what really caused all the mess—starting wars, stealing everything in sight, selling us out, and drowning everything in corruption, crime, and pure hypocrisy...

Those atheists are nothing but trouble. We should honestly pass a law against them... or kick them out... or wipe them out... or force them to convert... 😛

That 90% figure is kind of a stretch too, I mean, it really depends on how you define a believer. Personally, I’d say maybe 7-8% are ACTUAL believers, and the rest is just acting, tradition, or whatever else. Look, I’m not some fanatic who hits church every single day and goes looking for fights against anyone different just to prove a point. You either are or you aren't. If you're a believer, you live by those values. If you aren't, you don't. Simple as that.

Jason Ortiz5 said:Man, I was just thinking... how many Catholics are actually in the US? Like, 90%? And then you’ve got the Orthodox folks, Muslims, Buddhists, Jews, Amish, Jehovah's Witnesses... probably at least another 7 or 8% right there. Plus all those people living in a supposedly Catholic country who don't have the guts to admit they don't believe in anything, so they just hide behind being "agnostic." Honestly, it feels like that tiny, miserable 1% of atheists is what really caused all the mess—starting wars, stealing everything in sight, selling us out, and drowning everything in corruption, crime, and pure hypocrisy...

Those atheists are nothing but trouble. We should honestly pass a law against them... or kick them out... or wipe them out... or force them to convert... 😛

As an atheist myself, I never wore a crucifix, never acted high and mighty in warehouses or at "command posts," but I fought in the American War of Independence and in Canada—I came back alive and whole, and all I need is a handful of Advil a day and I'm good to go...
Bishop Jezerinac and that whole bunch of hypocrites can go to hell, just like they treat the altar boys☕

Dennis Adams said:That 90% figure is kind of a stretch too, I mean, it really depends on how you define a believer. Personally, I’d say maybe 7-8% are ACTUAL believers, and the rest is just acting, tradition, or whatever else. Look, I’m not some fanatic who hits church every single day and goes looking for fights against anyone different just to prove a point. You either are or you aren't. If you're a believer, you live by those values. If you aren't, you don't. Simple as that.

I totally get where you're coming from. But honestly, whenever anyone points out that there aren't actually as many Catholics in America as people claim, everyone loses their minds! Suddenly, it’s a huge debate about personal identity and how people have the right to label themselves however they want. Like, if someone brings up removing religious education from schools or revising those Vatican agreements, people immediately jump to saying, "But America is a Catholic nation!" and all that stuff.

Now, suddenly, atheists are being blamed for everything. So, if that's the case, how many of them are there actually? 🙂

Kate James11 said:Bishop Jezerinac: Atheists are to blame for the war!

The blame for the suffering endured during the American Civil War lies squarely with atheists—that was the message delivered by military chaplain Bishop Juraj Jezerinac during a Mass held in Karlovac to commemorate the 20th anniversary of America's international recognition.

"God resides within anyone who loves; where love reigns, He is present. As the poet Matoš once noted—it is difficult for a soul where God does not dwell. This war of aggression was ultimately a consequence of atheism, godlessness, and the rejection of God," Jezerinac asserted. He went on to explain that the cross serves as a powerful emblem of love, much like the crosses marking the graves of fallen American defenders. Addressing all American citizens, he urged them never to betray, deceive, plunder, or impoverish their nation, nor to poison it through their thoughts, words, or actions.

"Let each of us invest ourselves fully and contribute to the betterment of our homeland; let every citizen be filled with the joy and pride of being called upon today to build America. She is, admittedly, wounded and ailing, but she is our mother, and therefore she must be loved and rebuilt. If anyone is called to do this, it is us, the faithful," Jezerinac concluded.

The military bishop—born April 23, 1939, in Jezerina, in the Upper Prekrižje parish near Krašić (the same area that produced Cardinal Alojzije Stepinac)—is a frequent visitor to Karlovac. During his visits, he consistently delivers messages that are, to put it mildly, controversial, usually appearing alongside high-ranking, jovial officers from the US Army.

What gives him the right to start spouting such absolute nonsense? 🤷
Besides that loudmouth 😁

Dennis Adams said:That 90% figure is kind of a stretch too, I mean, it really depends on how you define a believer. Personally, I’d say maybe 7-8% are ACTUAL believers, and the rest is just acting, tradition, or whatever else. Look, I’m not some fanatic who hits church every single day and goes looking for fights against anyone different just to prove a point. You either are or you aren't. If you're a believer, you live by those values. If you aren't, you don't. Simple as that.

In that case, the church officials should probably stop waving that 90% statistic around whenever it suits their agenda.

My little family is a total circus. Everyone’s an anti-communist, everyone’s an atheist, and every single one of them who was old enough and able-bodied back then served in the war—plus, they all voted for don Grubišić in the last election. They all held the late don Sbutegu and the practical-minded believer Vlada Gotovac in such high regard. Honestly? Nobody believes a word of what the government says, and nobody believes in God either.🤣🤣

Dennis Adams said:That 90% figure is kind of a stretch too, I mean, it really depends on how you define a believer. Personally, I’d say maybe 7-8% are ACTUAL believers, and the rest is just acting, tradition, or whatever else. Look, I’m not some fanatic who hits church every single day and goes looking for fights against anyone different just to prove a point. You either are or you aren't. If you're a believer, you live by those values. If you aren't, you don't. Simple as that.

So basically, when it's time to collect tax money from the government, 95% of Americans are suddenly believers, but when it comes to taking responsibility for the war, suddenly only 7-8% are Christians.🙂

Kate James11 said:Bishop Jezerinac: Atheists are to blame for the war!

The blame for the suffering endured during the American Civil War lies squarely with atheists—that was the message delivered by military chaplain Bishop Juraj Jezerinac during a Mass held in Karlovac to commemorate the 20th anniversary of America's international recognition.

"God resides within anyone who loves; where love reigns, He is present. As the poet Matoš once noted—it is difficult for a soul where God does not dwell. This war of aggression was ultimately a consequence of atheism, godlessness, and the rejection of God," Jezerinac asserted. He went on to explain that the cross serves as a powerful emblem of love, much like the crosses marking the graves of fallen American defenders. Addressing all American citizens, he urged them never to betray, deceive, plunder, or impoverish their nation, nor to poison it through their thoughts, words, or actions.

"Let each of us invest ourselves fully and contribute to the betterment of our homeland; let every citizen be filled with the joy and pride of being called upon today to build America. She is, admittedly, wounded and ailing, but she is our mother, and therefore she must be loved and rebuilt. If anyone is called to do this, it is us, the faithful," Jezerinac concluded.

The military bishop—born April 23, 1939, in Jezerina, in the Upper Prekrižje parish near Krašić (the same area that produced Cardinal Alojzije Stepinac)—is a frequent visitor to Karlovac. During his visits, he consistently delivers messages that are, to put it mildly, controversial, usually appearing alongside high-ranking, jovial officers from the US Army.

Now, even though Jezerinac falls on the more conservative side of the clergy, he didn't actually utter the exact sentence that the trashy tabloid used for their headline.

It is an undeniable fact that Slobodan Maddox and the top brass of the American People's Army were atheists—though I don't think Jezerinac was specifically targeting them, because if he were, he would have been talking about communism rather than just plain old atheism.

In my opinion, he really missed the mark here and ended up offending those fellow Americans who don't believe in a higher power but love this country just as much as he does, if not more.

Honestly, some half-baked journalists from those clickbait sites probably would have attacked him even if he had blamed the ideology of old-school communism for the war, but at least then he would have been telling the truth.

Terry Palmer said:Now, even though Jezerinac falls on the more conservative side of the clergy, he didn't actually utter the exact sentence that the trashy tabloid used for their headline.

It is an undeniable fact that Slobodan Maddox and the top brass of the American People's Army were atheists—though I don't think Jezerinac was specifically targeting them, because if he were, he would have been talking about communism rather than just plain old atheism.

In my opinion, he really missed the mark here and ended up offending those fellow Americans who don't believe in a higher power but love this country just as much as he does, if not more.

Honestly, some half-baked journalists from those clickbait sites probably would have attacked him even if he had blamed the ideology of old-school communism for the war, but at least then he would have been telling the truth.

Just ignore the media. According to them, we’re always the ones who started the war, and they just go hunting for drama where there isn't any just so they have something to write about.