Weed and Witchcraft

Drew Flores3 said:interview 1

interview 2

final thoughts

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How many people can actually "get" him? 🙂))

Ah, Bob Marley... he spent his entire life—short though it was—fighting to open up the heart chakras of government politicians. He just wanted them all to share a smoke with him at least once, hoping that maybe, just maybe, they’d start being a bit more generous toward people. A little free hug here and there. 🙏



While alcohol tends to dull the senses, Cannabis actually stimulates them... it’s quite similar to how toxic berries work
.
Take my old friend Zora (there's a clip about 4.5 to 9 minutes long); even 15,000 years ago, he was feeling the stress of the hunt, under immense pressure to prove himself and earn enough trust to become a shaman for the North American tectonic plate. The day before the big hunt, he reached for those toxic berries that his Neanderthal brother had warned him were deadly but possessed incredible hallucinogenic power. He shared a few with his buddies. (Now, this isn't just my take; it's an educational reconstruction based on scientific evidence from early human remains, which can tell us quite a bit about their diet and how their chakras functioned). Once those heroes ingested the berries, the lines between worlds split open, allowing them to connect with the Great Spirit. Through song and drawing, the Great Spirit gave Zora instructions on exactly where to hunt the next day and how to track his prey. Empowered by strength from the Above (as poor Jacko used to say... you know, the guy who lived his life under general anesthesia), Zorko stood fearlessly the very next day right where he knew he needed to be: eye-to-eye with a multi-ton beast for a massive cave-side BBQ!

That entire cave had enough dinner to last a month—goats for drums, horns for pipes, and a hundred other things—plus the walls of the cave themselves were graced with eternal frescoes... not to mention the musical demo tapes 😍
. And after a great feast, well... we all know what happens when that second chakra blooms
.
So, what is the actual difference between Cannabis and those toxic berries?
Aha (and by "aha," I mean IMHO)... it's really just a matter of color and taste
. 🙄The berries don't damage the lungs... and neither does general anesthesia
. ...Though, the berries are cheaper, completely natural, and a gift from God... much like Cannabis is. They are also legal, yet they demand the same thing: you have to be the hunter, not the prey 👍
.

Similarly, there are indications that medical Cannabis can help children with autism
.

cosmictinker21 said:Larry Wilson5@

without believing in your own strength, you’re basically going nowhere

People crave power. They convince themselves they need some external Force just to exist or create anything of value.

And it’s honestly pathetic... instead of digging deep to find that drive within themselves, they go hunting for it in incense, tea blends, or some magical dust. 🤣 It’s like they’ve convinced themselves they’re fundamentally broken, so they start reaching for these mental crutches—grabbing whatever fancy, jewel-encrusted support they can find to lean on. They get so used to those artificial stabilizers that their actual natural ability just withers away. All it takes is a patch of black ice or a slick hardwood floor to send the whole thing crashing down like a cheap vase.

And then what? Then they realize their mental muscles have completely atrophied and all those little shortcuts didn't actually build any real strength. Sometimes, they don't even have the capacity to realize it anymore. 🤷

Do they really feel that weak, that helpless, that incapable that they need chemical intervention? Is their brain truly unable to produce something on its own? It’s almost as if they’ve viewed themselves as some sort of disadvantaged underdog since birth, deciding that due to "natural reasons," they can't achieve their goals without a constant external prosthesis or a flywheel to keep them spinning. 😕 Ugh, I imagine that’s a pretty miserable way to live... 🤣🤣

It’s not necessarily tragic, nor does it mean someone is sick—and even if they are, that isn't inherently bad. It doesn't mean Cannabis is a gateway drug, or that it causes addiction, or that using it inevitably leads to some massive downward spiral where a person loses their mind and becomes incapable of handling basic everyday life.

So what happens then? Then he realizes his brain muscles have basically gone on vacation and all those little "enhancers" didn't do a damn thing to help them grow. Sometimes, you lose the ability to even realize it's happening.🤷

What kind of "average person with a child's brain" are you talking about here, and what exactly is your problem with it?

Does he feel so weak, helpless, and incompetent that he absolutely requires chemistry to function? Is his brain truly incapable of creating something on its own? Does he genuinely view himself as some sort of handicapped orphan from birth, unable to do what he wants due to "natural" limitations, requiring a constant external prosthesis or a flywheel to keep moving? 😕 Ugh, man, that sounds like a miserable way to live. 🤣🤣

I guess if it isn't minimalist or (artificially) "natural," it’s automatically garbage, right? If we use (natural) resources that actually contribute to something—even an improvement—then why is that considered wrong? Is it because of demonizing propaganda, pure ignorance, or just that "only-natural-is-good" kind of elitism where people get to decide what counts as natural?

Quote : Understanding Marijuana said:Driven by a mix of economic incentives and a growing sense of social justice, the
world has slowly drifted toward making progress in respecting diversity. People are
starting to show a bit more respect for one another, regardless of how old they are, their ethnicity,
gender, job, sexual orientation, religion, political views, or
level of education. A lot of folks argue that this increased level of respect is a win for everyone. We
maybe we can eventually reach a stage where folks actually learn to tolerate people with different viewpoints.
Like, imagine if we just let people use Cannabis if they aren't
hurting themselves or anyone else in the process.

Oh boy... 😂😂😂

I honestly can't believe our once-virtuous little community leader has turned into such a vocal advocate for magic herbs 🤣

But seriously, what if everyone in the tribe had just taken a few hits of those little berries 🙄? Who would have been there to welcome the brave warrior, patch up his wounds, swat the flies away from his skin, and carve up a feast for him to snack on? And then, they’d all be prostrate on the ground, totally swooning before the hero of the age. See, it was all thanks to those little berries that the hero became a legend... ☕

Natural psychoactive substances can be a tool for growth or a trap, depending on how you play your cards.
If you’re just blowing smoke recreationally without any aim, it probably won't do much for you—just like anything else taken to an extreme, except maybe love. 🙂
Sometimes, getting high shouldn't even be about the "effect." It could just be... nothing. You could even try meditating while under the influence; some people find that hits different, others hate it.

Also, a quick word of advice: don't buy into the ego of people who act like they've mastered the universe and spirituality. They aren't the arbiters of what's "objectively" true, especially when they're being condescending about it.
Peace!

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Peter Phillips32 said:It’s not necessarily tragic, nor does it mean someone is sick—and even if they are, that isn't inherently bad. It doesn't mean Cannabis is a gateway drug, or that it causes addiction, or that using it inevitably leads to some massive downward spiral where a person loses their mind and becomes incapable of handling basic everyday life.

So what happens then? Then he realizes his brain muscles have basically gone on vacation and all those little "enhancers" didn't do a damn thing to help them grow. Sometimes, you lose the ability to even realize it's happening.🤷

What kind of "average person with a child's brain" are you talking about here, and what exactly is your problem with it?

Does he feel so weak, helpless, and incompetent that he absolutely requires chemistry to function? Is his brain truly incapable of creating something on its own? Does he genuinely view himself as some sort of handicapped orphan from birth, unable to do what he wants due to "natural" limitations, requiring a constant external prosthesis or a flywheel to keep moving? 😕 Ugh, man, that sounds like a miserable way to live. 🤣🤣

I guess if it isn't minimalist or (artificially) "natural," it’s automatically garbage, right? If we use (natural) resources that actually contribute to something—even an improvement—then why is that considered wrong? Is it because of demonizing propaganda, pure ignorance, or just that "only-natural-is-good" kind of elitism where people get to decide what counts as natural?

It’s not quite this, nor that, nor even particularly necessary... but based on how you're acting, you're just drifting through a haze. Either you're nodding off, or you're lost in some daydream, and then you end up hungry and even more exhausted, looking like you've been staring at nothing for hours... I haven't heard of a single local consumer around here ever producing a masterpiece that actually made its way into the annals of American history, let alone the global cultural, artistic, or scientific heritage. It’s a great way to distance yourself from reality, I suppose. Though, most people never really find their way back...

So, what’s the deal with smoking when you aren't even sick? Is this supposed to be some kind of preventative measure? I mean, when it comes to medical use, there are very specific, measured doses of active ingredients for a reason... but with this random stuff floating around, you never really know if you're strong enough to handle it without getting stuck. I know plenty of people who thought they were fine, only to end up completely bogged down. Then they start craving something even stronger. It usually ends with them finding "enlightenment" in the form of dropping out of school, letting their responsibilities slide, and spending every waking hour chasing the next high... though I suppose a few others managed to use it for recreation and actually kept their lives together. Still...

You never really know... you never truly know if you’re strong enough to just stick to the occasional recreational use. If you actually believe you have that kind of willpower, then what's the point of all those flavor enhancers, colors, and scents? Some kind of reality e-beautifier or whatever... can you even stand them?🤷

Arthur Evans2 said:Natural psychoactive substances can be a tool for growth or a trap, depending on how you play your cards.
If you’re just blowing smoke recreationally without any aim, it probably won't do much for you—just like anything else taken to an extreme, except maybe love. 🙂
Sometimes, getting high shouldn't even be about the "effect." It could just be... nothing. You could even try meditating while under the influence; some people find that hits different, others hate it.

Also, a quick word of advice: don't buy into the ego of people who act like they've mastered the universe and spirituality. They aren't the arbiters of what's "objectively" true, especially when they're being condescending about it.
Peace!

Yeah, honestly... it feels to me like this whole glorification of psychotropic substances—ignoring the actual downsides or the very real risk of losing control—is just pure hype. This unobjective worship of "expanding your mind" strikes me as pretty biased and, frankly, a bit patronizing. 🤣

How on earth did you manage to pull so many conclusions out of a couple of sentences that don't even touch on what you're talking about? It’s not just a massive non sequitur; it’s bordering on total nonsense. The OP already made up his mind about Cannabis—he was just curious if it messes with your chakras. I really don't get the urge to try and lecture him on his beliefs, especially since he didn't even ask for it.

Why would anyone try to open their chakras while using Cannabis? Or why would someone want to quit, if people claim it actually shuts them down? I don't get it...

http://tribes.tribe.net/cannabisclub...9-849a4c03f18b

Adding two more links here...

http://chakratribe.tribe.net/

http://chakratribe.tribe.net/thread/...4-b0f58ad3016a

Some nice links... 😍

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Arthur Evans2 Asks: How on earth did you manage to squeeze so many conclusions out of just a few sentences that don't even imply half of what you're claiming? I really don't get the urge to try and sway his convictions... I mean, was that even what he was asking for in the first place?...

Yeah, I honestly don't see the point of you leaving comments like that either... 😕 So, we’re essentially just trading perspectives here. It’s all about how different chemicals mess with the body's natural flow—and by extension, the chakras. Everyone’s got their own take on it... personally, based on some research and my own experiences, I’d say it’s pretty detrimental to the energy centers, specifically the third eye and the crown. The thing is, THC mostly targets the central nervous system directly, while its impact on other organic systems is usually more indirect, acting through the CNS. All those peripheral symptoms people talk about—the dilated blood vessels, the racing heart, the way blood pressure drops and then just fluctuates wildly—those are actually secondary issues compared to the neurological stuff. So, basically...

The first chakra—and I’m only talking about the main ones here, since there are more than seven of them...—is located right at the base of the spine. It essentially represents our connection to the group we live in, acting as the anchor for that sense of belonging and shared identity. Though, if we're being objective about what's actually physically sitting in that area, it's just the sigmoid colon. So, any real sensation you get down there will likely just be some digestive backup, which, let's be honest, isn't exactly the most stimulating way to kickstart your social life...

The second chakra sits around the pelvic area and just above the reproductive organs... it’s essentially the hub for creative energy and how we connect with the people and environment around us. Because of the way we're wired anatomically, you might feel some pleasant fluttering there—mostly due to vasodilation, obviously—but I can't say for sure how much that actually syncs up with male libido when their brain is basically hovering somewhere over the Rose Bowl... if the mind is that far away, it’s hardly close to the sacral center, is it?

The third one sits right in the anatomical projection of the solar plexus—that massive nerve cluster that services all the abdominal and some thoracic organs. It’s situated in that same general area where you've got the stomach sitting more toward the front, right near the pancreatic duct, the gallbladder, and the start of the small intestine. Basically, it's a hub for all the vital organs... This center creates a balance of personal power, character strength, and willpower, though it can sometimes veer into being overly authoritative, power-hungry, or even just plain egotistical. But honestly, that "strong will" isn't going to mean much if my stomach is doing somersaults, especially if my whole system feels sluggish from smoking... Cannabis acts as a depressant, after all...

The fourth chakra sits right in the center of your chest. It’s essentially the anchor for the whole spiritual energy system, acting as that main balancing point between all the upper and lower chakras. When things are flowing right, it promotes this deep sense of inner peace... but if you get out of alignment, you start dealing with jealousy, bitterness, and just an overall inability to forgive people. Though, I suppose if my heart rate is skipping beats—sometimes too slow, sometimes too fast—and my breathing feels totally erratic because my phrenic and vagus nerves aren't cooperating, my heart is going to be pretty confused. And honestly, in that state, achieving any kind of meaningful inner peace feels like a bit of a stretch...

The throat is essentially the crossroads of the body. It’s where everything converges—respiration, digestion, and that critical intersection of major blood vessels like the carotid arteries, not to mention the thyroid, which acts as your primary energy regulator. If anything disrupts that delicate equilibrium right there at the center of your system, the fallout can be pretty significant... You might find yourself second-guessing every decision, feeling unstable, jittery, or just plain impatient. And if the brain doesn't get exactly what it needs because the balance is off, the consequences could get much more serious than just a bad mood...

The sixth chakra sits right there in the center of your forehead—it’s supposed to be the hub for intuition, inspiration, and those clear visions that expand your whole perspective. But if you end up with all that unnecessary blood rushing to that area... you know, when your eyes get red and your face flushes from overdoing it... I wouldn't exactly bet on you having a clear head. It’s not necessarily that your physical senses go dull, but your mental clarity definitely takes a hit. You just end up stuck in this loop of intense escapism, feeling crushed by illusions and chasing after visions that aren't even real...

The seventh chakra sits right at the crown. It’s what links our very existence to the absolute reality of everything, pulling us into this total oneness with the cosmos. Of course, from a purely biological standpoint, you've got the meeting point of the frontal, parietal, and temporal lobes up there, all tied together by those deep associative pathways that weave the entire CNS into one single, conscious human being. If some outside force comes along and messes with that balance, though... well, you'll see. You'll deal with fear, this crushing sense of isolation, feeling totally detached from everything. Sometimes it hits you as pure depression or paranoia, or maybe you just become an absolute stickler for the tiniest, most insignificant details. It's quite a beautiful way to be connected to the universe, really 🤣



(this graphic might not be as high-fidelity as others out there, but it illustrates how the chakras relate to anatomy)

Anyway, I'm heading off to grab some dinner.

Arthur Evans2 said:How on earth did you manage to pull so many conclusions out of a couple of sentences that don't even touch on what you're talking about? It’s not just a massive non sequitur; it’s bordering on total nonsense. The OP already made up his mind about Cannabis—he was just curious if it messes with your chakras. I really don't get the urge to try and lecture him on his beliefs, especially since he didn't even ask for it.

Finally, someone gets it! LOOK, I AM NOT SEEKING ANY KIND OF SPIRITUALITY FROM CANNABIS! Every once in a while I smoke just for the hell of it, and honestly, it sparks these great ideas that I absolutely need as an artist...

I'm strictly wondering if it affects chakra function or not, so I can decide whether or not to do something about it... or maybe stop entirely if it's actually bad news.

My opinion is set in stone and I'm well-informed on everything else, but this specific thing was my only question.

Besides, I don't believe in using any kind of substances for spiritual purposes anyway...

I was just listening to One-Stop earlier today, and apparently, in some parts of Switzerland, you’re actually allowed to grow up to four Cannabis plants for personal use—that’s like 16 plants if you’ve got a family of four! 😍 Honestly, I can't help but think how much more I'd get into gardening if I didn't have to worry about some nosy neighbor calling the cops on me! 😁

It totally takes me back to this one time—way back when—I was working the phones for a psych hotline run by this local therapist. There were these two college students working shifts with me, and one day, while we were totally alone at the office, they actually went ahead and planted some greenery right there in the therapist's office! 😁

I mean, hey, maybe it would've kept everyone's chakras perfectly aligned so they wouldn't even need therapy in the first place! Long live the herb! 😍

The environment you're working in matters more than people realize. You have to be extremely selective about the group you surround yourself with. Everyone involved needs to be a trusted friend—someone you can truly rely on—because if there isn't total trust, people might try to exploit that heightened state during the opening of the first chakra.

@cosmictinker21
I guess you might realize that all those emotions and traits you're attributing to "chakras" are actually just the result of biochemical
processes triggered by various stimuli, and they don't really reside or activate in those specific areas?

Cannabis is a stimulant rather than a depressant, and I suppose cannabinoids and endocannabinoids don't have a "destructive" role in the body
but more of a modular one.

P.S. Chocolate also happens to activate cannabinoid receptors, if that helps.

cosmictinker21 said:Quote : Understanding Marijuana

It’s not quite this, nor that, nor even particularly necessary... but based on how you're acting, you're just drifting through a haze. Either you're nodding off, or you're lost in some daydream, and then you end up hungry and even more exhausted, looking like you've been staring at nothing for hours... I haven't heard of a single local consumer around here ever producing a masterpiece that actually made its way into the annals of American history, let alone the global cultural, artistic, or scientific heritage. It’s a great way to distance yourself from reality, I suppose. Though, most people never really find their way back...

So, what’s the deal with smoking when you aren't even sick? Is this supposed to be some kind of preventative measure? I mean, when it comes to medical use, there are very specific, measured doses of active ingredients for a reason... but with this random stuff floating around, you never really know if you're strong enough to handle it without getting stuck. I know plenty of people who thought they were fine, only to end up completely bogged down. Then they start craving something even stronger. It usually ends with them finding "enlightenment" in the form of dropping out of school, letting their responsibilities slide, and spending every waking hour chasing the next high... though I suppose a few others managed to use it for recreation and actually kept their lives together. Still...

You never really know... you never truly know if you’re strong enough to just stick to the occasional recreational use. If you actually believe you have that kind of willpower, then what's the point of all those flavor enhancers, colors, and scents? Some kind of reality e-beautifier or whatever... can you even stand them?🤷

I can only get behind the tomato caricature part, but as for the rest... I don't really fit into those generalizations and stereotypes you're throwing out there.

I haven't heard of a single local user producing any kind of masterpiece that actually made its way into the annals of American, let alone global, cultural, artistic, or scientific heritage.

Anything less than an epic masterpiece isn't worth wasting time on like that...
Quote: it's a great way to distance yourself from reality. and plenty of people never make it back.I have no idea what you mean by "distancing yourself from reality," so I'm stuck saying "Huh?" Who exactly are these "plenty of people"? Give me some context, because right now you're just feeding into the same old murky propaganda.

so people smoke even when they aren't sick? Is that supposed to be for prevention?

That's a bad joke.

well, for medical purposes, there are very specific doses of active ingredients. with this kind of crap, you never truly know if you're strong enough to not get stuck. I know plenty who thought they were, but they got stuck. Then they wanted something even stronger. And in the end, they found "enlightenment" in the form of dropping out of school, neglecting responsibilities, and wasting days and nights on partying, while others just used it for recreation and moved on.

Yeah, and?

you never know if you're strong enough to stick to occasional recreation. if you think you're so tough, why do you even need such a flavor, color, and scent enhancer—some kind of e-beautifier for reality? Can't you handle it without it?🤷

I've used it to tolerate reality (or your famous "escape"), but never for the latter. As for modifying the experience, well, exactly...

cosmictinker21 said:Quote : Understanding Marijuana

It’s not quite this, nor that, nor even particularly necessary... but based on how you're acting, you're just drifting through a haze. Either you're nodding off, or you're lost in some daydream, and then you end up hungry and even more exhausted, looking like you've been staring at nothing for hours... I haven't heard of a single local consumer around here ever producing a masterpiece that actually made its way into the annals of American history, let alone the global cultural, artistic, or scientific heritage. It’s a great way to distance yourself from reality, I suppose. Though, most people never really find their way back...

So, what’s the deal with smoking when you aren't even sick? Is this supposed to be some kind of preventative measure? I mean, when it comes to medical use, there are very specific, measured doses of active ingredients for a reason... but with this random stuff floating around, you never really know if you're strong enough to handle it without getting stuck. I know plenty of people who thought they were fine, only to end up completely bogged down. Then they start craving something even stronger. It usually ends with them finding "enlightenment" in the form of dropping out of school, letting their responsibilities slide, and spending every waking hour chasing the next high... though I suppose a few others managed to use it for recreation and actually kept their lives together. Still...

You never really know... you never truly know if you’re strong enough to just stick to the occasional recreational use. If you actually believe you have that kind of willpower, then what's the point of all those flavor enhancers, colors, and scents? Some kind of reality e-beautifier or whatever... can you even stand them?🤷

Yeah, right. They don't.

Nathan Newman45 said:@cosmictinker21
I guess you might realize that all those emotions and traits you're attributing to "chakras" are actually just the result of biochemical
processes triggered by various stimuli, and they don't really reside or activate in those specific areas?

Cannabis is a stimulant rather than a depressant, and I suppose cannabinoids and endocannabinoids don't have a "destructive" role in the body
but more of a modular one.

P.S. Chocolate also happens to activate cannabinoid receptors, if that helps.

Speaking of chocolate, I can think of plenty of pleasant side effects...😍

I didn't "contribute" anything to chakras; Ayurvedic medicine explains chakra function in exactly that way, and I simply connected the dots with scientific facts. Or did you expect me to submit a full dissertation on the limbic system?

Or maybe I should have lectured on how activating CB receptors inhibits adenylate cyclase, which in turn inhibits cAMP production via the conversion of ATP, or discussed how endocannabinoids act as neurotransmitters and neuromodulators. Given the dopamine release, you could call it a stimulant or a sympathomimetic, though ultimately motor skills slow down, tenacity increases, and vigilance stays high without any control mechanisms... besides delusions, you get short-term memory impairment due to the effect on the hippocampus, and with chronic use, neuronal degradation...

In higher doses, it reduces the synthesis of DNA, RNA, and proteins. In smaller doses, there's clear stimulation of both cellular and humoral immunity, which is why it's used to treat certain ailments.

There are medications approved for use with strictly defined concentrations of active components, dosed just like any other prescription drug (like Dronabinol, for instance). They are taken in individualized daily doses, just like antibiotics, analgesics, or any other generic meds.

By acting on CB1 receptors in the brain and peripheral nerves, you achieve a psychotropic effect, while targeting CB2 receptors on macrophages and other immune cells helps suppress autoimmune responses in certain conditions. This helps reduce pain and other symptoms. But those are medicines containing precise amounts of a component per dose. If you're taking THC directly from a plant or from standard preparations that always contain some percentage of CBD, you're basically making a mess of things. You see, CBD is a weak antagonist of CB1 receptors and reduces the effects of THC, essentially suppressing its subjective and physical impacts.

By the way, the description of how chakras work is largely adapted from Kezely. I consider him a fairly legitimate authority in that field...😁

blue-green said:@ cosmictinker21

Is this part of some election campaign or something???

Because I honestly can't figure out why you insist on posting about spirituality when your whole focus seems to be politics first.

I have no idea where you get these wild ideas from...😕 like imagining my dead neighbor is hanging from a lamppost clutching my wallet?🤣 And then adding: "this is your future candidate for a seat in the local party office. vote for a comfortable lifestyle."😂😂

By the way, I haven't heard of our political geniuses actually worrying about chakras or mental transcendence.

Unless you're thinking of that time I spoke up at the textbook launch, or that protest where I argued child support should automatically be garnished from income—which is how everyone noticed my involvement with the single parents association?🤷🥳

Anyway, enough jokes. I think this post is completely off-topic. Second, it's just not true. Third, publicly speculating about someone's private life—even if it isn't mine—just isn't right. Thanks for understanding... cheers from the old lady who has zero interest in being public about politics. Besides, I deal with it every day through my pathetic paycheck...

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cosmictinker21 said:exactly. A person carries so many latent possibilities within them; genetic conditioning provides the foundation for brain development and everything else we have at our disposal. But if we don't exercise that, if we don't put in the actual work, there's no progress. We won't learn or realize anything if we don't push ourselves to engage our own strength, to accept and incorporate what the environment offers us. All those beautiful external stimuli will just echo nothing inside us. It's through repetition, practice, thinking, and feeling that we gradually develop and enrich ourselves. And that stays with us forever (well, unless Mr. Alzheimer or old lady dementia hits us first, then maybe not for long 😁). From there, we can move forward...

External chemical stimulants, whether natural or synthetic, are currently going to create some unusual, unnatural connections in our brains, resulting in equally strange effects. It simply means our organism isn't shaped—genetically or environmentally—to be capable of doing those things on its own.

Biologically speaking, if you let a chimpanzee get drunk, both he and his entire troop would end up in a leopard's jaws pretty quickly. And if cavemen had spent their time chewing on piles of tasty hallucinogenic leaves, I suspect we’d still be living under the rule of some great tribal mother cult today 🤣

So, you have these incredible visions, you feel amazing, you get the impression you're capable of creating grand works of art or science, and you drift through social and existential realities like you're sailing on clouds 🙄 and that lasts only as long as you have that chemistry in your system. After that...

Look at the little fruit after the rain:
It's full of drops, swaying in the breeze.
And it glistens, bathed in the sunlight,
The wonderful splendor of its branches.

But once the sun hides away just a bit,
All that magic vanishes.
She is again, just as she was at first,
An ordinary, somewhat pathetic little tree.

Robert Frost

The human brain isn't some corporate entity waiting to be acquired through a hostile takeover. Honestly, it’s exhausting to watch. It feels like we’ve all collectively surrendered, swallowing this hollow, soulless Western capitalist jargon until it's become our primary way of thinking. Why have we allowed ourselves to adopt the lexicon of a boardroom as if it were our own natural language?

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cosmictinker21 said:exactly. A person carries so many latent possibilities within them; genetic conditioning provides the foundation for brain development and everything else we have at our disposal. But if we don't exercise that, if we don't put in the actual work, there's no progress. We won't learn or realize anything if we don't push ourselves to engage our own strength, to accept and incorporate what the environment offers us. All those beautiful external stimuli will just echo nothing inside us. It's through repetition, practice, thinking, and feeling that we gradually develop and enrich ourselves. And that stays with us forever (well, unless Mr. Alzheimer or old lady dementia hits us first, then maybe not for long 😁). From there, we can move forward...

External chemical stimulants, whether natural or synthetic, are currently going to create some unusual, unnatural connections in our brains, resulting in equally strange effects. It simply means our organism isn't shaped—genetically or environmentally—to be capable of doing those things on its own.

Biologically speaking, if you let a chimpanzee get drunk, both he and his entire troop would end up in a leopard's jaws pretty quickly. And if cavemen had spent their time chewing on piles of tasty hallucinogenic leaves, I suspect we’d still be living under the rule of some great tribal mother cult today 🤣

So, you have these incredible visions, you feel amazing, you get the impression you're capable of creating grand works of art or science, and you drift through social and existential realities like you're sailing on clouds 🙄 and that lasts only as long as you have that chemistry in your system. After that...

Look at the little fruit after the rain:
It's full of drops, swaying in the breeze.
And it glistens, bathed in the sunlight,
The wonderful splendor of its branches.

But once the sun hides away just a bit,
All that magic vanishes.
She is again, just as she was at first,
An ordinary, somewhat pathetic little tree.

Robert Frost

How can you possibly claim to know? Do you honestly believe you have any insight into whether certain herbal compounds actually respect concentration levels or enhance penetration depth in mammoths? How could you possibly know what they were consuming—or if they were even consuming anything at all? And to suggest that their entire devotion to the Mother Cult was driven by these substances? It’s an absurd leap. For all we know, a lightning strike could have been what took down those mammoths, prompting them to abandon one belief system and pivot entirely to the cult of the Thunderer.

The whole cult surrounding Elijah the Thunderer actually traces back to Old Slavic roots, specifically centered on Perun. Basically, Elijah is just a Christianized version of Perun...🙂