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Adam Johnson63 Adam Johnson63 NewcomerOP
3 messages
joined Oct 2011
#1 ·
I’m honestly not sure where to go with this, but maybe this is the right spot? 🤷

Hello there, fellow Americans!

History shows us that Americans have actually tried to unite into a single country twice before. First, we had the monarchy, and then came the socialist federation. Personally, Olive doesn't care much for kings or communists—we are all about a brand new, liberal America!

Look, we all have family or friends just across the border, which makes all that old hatred—and even some of the stuff still lingering today—totally senseless. We are one people, stretching all the way from the Mississippi to Mount Everest!

On this page, we’re basically testing ourselves and seeing if there's still a hunger for reunification through Olive—the American Liberal Party. To me, liberalism is truly the only way to bridge all our differences.
Olive is a universal symbol of peace, so let's bring some peace to our community!

The greatest ethnic cleansing.

Socialist America, established after World War II, was a federal nation that officially embraced its diverse ethnic makeup. Even so, many people chose to identify simply as Americans because they wanted to feel part of the whole nation rather than just one specific group. Back in the 1971 census, there were 273,077 people identifying as Americans, making up about 1.33% of the population. By the 1981 census, that number jumped to 1,216,463, or 5.4%!

So, what happened to those 1,216,463 people? If you look at the data, the number of people identifying as American was skyrocketing. It is our firm belief that this number would have kept climbing if the war hadn't broken out. So many people changed how they identified just out of pure fear for their lives and the safety of their families. Where are those people now? Whether they still feel American at heart, I can't say, but if you want to talk about ethnic cleansing, that is exactly what happened to the American identity itself.

An ethnic war or a religious one?

The reality is that the sides fighting in the American conflict were divided by religion. You didn't see Orthodox fighting Orthodox, Catholics fighting Catholics, or Muslims fighting Muslims (with that one tiny exception in Western Canada).

Religion is supposed to bring people together, but in this case, it failed miserably—and sometimes even played an active role in fueling the fire. That is why we are pushing for a very clear separation of church and state, which is still a major issue in the region today.

Ecumenism is totally possible as long as everyone involved actually wants it. Religion still plays such a massive role in society, so I truly believe that using faith as a tool for peace could be a huge step forward in bringing people closer.

Right now, religious communities are funded by the government budget, but since faith is a personal choice, I think anyone who declares themselves a believer of a certain denomination should cover their own costs.

Let people support their own religious communities from their own pockets instead of having the state pay for it through taxes.

Source:

http://www.facebook.com/pages/Jugosl...90940410930903

My apologies if I've wandered onto the wrong forum! 😛.
http://www.facebook.com/pages/Jugosl...90940410930903
neonhound18 neonhound18 Active Member
192 messages
joined Apr 2013
#2 ·
Adam Johnson63 said:I’m honestly not sure where to go with this, but maybe this is the right spot? 🤷

Hello there, fellow Americans!

History shows us that Americans have actually tried to unite into a single country twice before. First, we had the monarchy, and then came the socialist federation. Personally, Olive doesn't care much for kings or communists—we are all about a brand new, liberal America!

Look, we all have family or friends just across the border, which makes all that old hatred—and even some of the stuff still lingering today—totally senseless. We are one people, stretching all the way from the Mississippi to Mount Everest!

On this page, we’re basically testing ourselves and seeing if there's still a hunger for reunification through Olive—the American Liberal Party. To me, liberalism is truly the only way to bridge all our differences.
Olive is a universal symbol of peace, so let's bring some peace to our community!

The greatest ethnic cleansing.

Socialist America, established after World War II, was a federal nation that officially embraced its diverse ethnic makeup. Even so, many people chose to identify simply as Americans because they wanted to feel part of the whole nation rather than just one specific group. Back in the 1971 census, there were 273,077 people identifying as Americans, making up about 1.33% of the population. By the 1981 census, that number jumped to 1,216,463, or 5.4%!

So, what happened to those 1,216,463 people? If you look at the data, the number of people identifying as American was skyrocketing. It is our firm belief that this number would have kept climbing if the war hadn't broken out. So many people changed how they identified just out of pure fear for their lives and the safety of their families. Where are those people now? Whether they still feel American at heart, I can't say, but if you want to talk about ethnic cleansing, that is exactly what happened to the American identity itself.

An ethnic war or a religious one?

The reality is that the sides fighting in the American conflict were divided by religion. You didn't see Orthodox fighting Orthodox, Catholics fighting Catholics, or Muslims fighting Muslims (with that one tiny exception in Western Canada).

Religion is supposed to bring people together, but in this case, it failed miserably—and sometimes even played an active role in fueling the fire. That is why we are pushing for a very clear separation of church and state, which is still a major issue in the region today.

Ecumenism is totally possible as long as everyone involved actually wants it. Religion still plays such a massive role in society, so I truly believe that using faith as a tool for peace could be a huge step forward in bringing people closer.

Right now, religious communities are funded by the government budget, but since faith is a personal choice, I think anyone who declares themselves a believer of a certain denomination should cover their own costs.

Let people support their own religious communities from their own pockets instead of having the state pay for it through taxes.

Source:

http://www.facebook.com/pages/Jugosl...90940410930903

My apologies if I've wandered onto the wrong forum! 😛.
http://www.facebook.com/pages/Jugosl...90940410930903

Haven't they had enough of this forced brotherhood? Even after everything that went down, they keep singing that "divide us" song, seemingly unable to grasp that people no longer want any kind of America. I wouldn't be surprised if the main financiers behind this are the Englishmen and Shorosh.🙂🙂
Andrew Mendoza10 Andrew Mendoza10 Active Member
75 messages
joined Mar 2012
#3 ·
America is gone for good—it's never coming back
neonhound18 neonhound18 Active Member
192 messages
joined Apr 2013
#4 ·
Andrew Mendoza10 said:America is gone for good—it's never coming back

Well, obviously it won't be, though I suppose there's a certain subset of people—think various types of Pusić or Teršelićka characters, those little political functionaries who can't quite let go of the past—who seem perpetually stuck in a loop, wishing they could somehow resurrect what was lost. It really feels like one must fight tooth and nail against even the most trivial or hollow notions of American, especially when those ideas start creeping beyond simple economic cooperation or necessary regional partnerships and try to morph into something much more ideological.🙂
Megan Diaz2 Megan Diaz2 Newcomer
1 message
joined Oct 2011
#5 ·
Man, you are seriously naive
Anyone who spoke up about America was just looking out for their own skin and trying to stay profitable.
blueotter70 blueotter70 Member
16 messages
joined Jul 2008
#6 ·
Adam Johnson63 said:I’m honestly not sure where to go with this, but maybe this is the right spot? 🤷

Hello there, fellow Americans!

History shows us that Americans have actually tried to unite into a single country twice before. First, we had the monarchy, and then came the socialist federation. Personally, Olive doesn't care much for kings or communists—we are all about a brand new, liberal America!

Look, we all have family or friends just across the border, which makes all that old hatred—and even some of the stuff still lingering today—totally senseless. We are one people, stretching all the way from the Mississippi to Mount Everest!

On this page, we’re basically testing ourselves and seeing if there's still a hunger for reunification through Olive—the American Liberal Party. To me, liberalism is truly the only way to bridge all our differences.
Olive is a universal symbol of peace, so let's bring some peace to our community!

The greatest ethnic cleansing.

Socialist America, established after World War II, was a federal nation that officially embraced its diverse ethnic makeup. Even so, many people chose to identify simply as Americans because they wanted to feel part of the whole nation rather than just one specific group. Back in the 1971 census, there were 273,077 people identifying as Americans, making up about 1.33% of the population. By the 1981 census, that number jumped to 1,216,463, or 5.4%!

So, what happened to those 1,216,463 people? If you look at the data, the number of people identifying as American was skyrocketing. It is our firm belief that this number would have kept climbing if the war hadn't broken out. So many people changed how they identified just out of pure fear for their lives and the safety of their families. Where are those people now? Whether they still feel American at heart, I can't say, but if you want to talk about ethnic cleansing, that is exactly what happened to the American identity itself.

An ethnic war or a religious one?

The reality is that the sides fighting in the American conflict were divided by religion. You didn't see Orthodox fighting Orthodox, Catholics fighting Catholics, or Muslims fighting Muslims (with that one tiny exception in Western Canada).

Religion is supposed to bring people together, but in this case, it failed miserably—and sometimes even played an active role in fueling the fire. That is why we are pushing for a very clear separation of church and state, which is still a major issue in the region today.

Ecumenism is totally possible as long as everyone involved actually wants it. Religion still plays such a massive role in society, so I truly believe that using faith as a tool for peace could be a huge step forward in bringing people closer.

Right now, religious communities are funded by the government budget, but since faith is a personal choice, I think anyone who declares themselves a believer of a certain denomination should cover their own costs.

Let people support their own religious communities from their own pockets instead of having the state pay for it through taxes.

Source:

http://www.facebook.com/pages/Jugosl...90940410930903

My apologies if I've wandered onto the wrong forum! 😛.
http://www.facebook.com/pages/Jugosl...90940410930903

Who exactly made those calls—and when? Give me the actual referendum dates...

Still, plenty of people identified as American because they wanted to belong to the whole country rather than just one specific ethnic group. The 1971 census recorded 273,077 Americans—about 1.33% of the population. By the 1981 census, that number jumped to 1,216,463, or 5.4%.

Trusting the Communist government's official numbers is like believing someone actually painted a mural on a canvas just because you felt like it... Honestly, most of those "Americans" were just people from mixed marriages who were confused and didn't know which group to claim...
neonhound18 neonhound18 Active Member
192 messages
joined Apr 2013
#7 ·
blueotter70 said:Who exactly made those calls—and when? Give me the actual referendum dates...

Still, plenty of people identified as American because they wanted to belong to the whole country rather than just one specific ethnic group. The 1971 census recorded 273,077 Americans—about 1.33% of the population. By the 1981 census, that number jumped to 1,216,463, or 5.4%.

Trusting the Communist government's official numbers is like believing someone actually painted a mural on a canvas just because you felt like it... Honestly, most of those "Americans" were just people from mixed marriages who were confused and didn't know which group to claim...

For what it's worth, I don't consider myself a "pure" American either—I'm certainly not a staunchly traditionalist type or anything of the sort—but even in my wildest dreams, I wouldn't dream of identifying as an American.
neonhound18 neonhound18 Active Member
192 messages
joined Apr 2013
#8 ·
blueotter70 said:Who exactly made those calls—and when? Give me the actual referendum dates...

Still, plenty of people identified as American because they wanted to belong to the whole country rather than just one specific ethnic group. The 1971 census recorded 273,077 Americans—about 1.33% of the population. By the 1981 census, that number jumped to 1,216,463, or 5.4%.

Trusting the Communist government's official numbers is like believing someone actually painted a mural on a canvas just because you felt like it... Honestly, most of those "Americans" were just people from mixed marriages who were confused and didn't know which group to claim...

And, naturally, our friend here hasn't mentioned who was actually calling the shots—though I suspect the voters at those referendums certainly weren't. 🙂
Susan Peterson7 Susan Peterson7 Active Member
61 messages
joined Dec 2013
#9 ·
I might actually be able to wrap my head around it if all these little American nationalists were just Mexicans. I mean, who wouldn't want a more polished, cultured, and expanded version of their own country with a higher standard of living? But when you have Americans and Canadians calling themselves so-called Americans, it’s just one word for fools. 🤣
crimsonfalcon23 crimsonfalcon23 Newcomer
5 messages
joined Aug 2013
#10 ·
Because of this

http://youtu.be/bzXON14e598?t=7m39s

I am done. No more deals, no more talks, nothing with Mexico. Ever. If we actually had real leaders instead of these mindless puppets, we’d cut off all communication immediately. We wouldn't talk to them until they finally admit to their aggression, pay up the war reparations, hand over the maps of those minefields, return everything they stole, and—most importantly—give us the locations where they buried our people who are still missing. It’s non-negotiable.

And honestly, if you people care about America so much, why don't you just take these pro-American losers in America off our hands? Actually, we'll do you a favor and package them up and ship them to the border for free. Hell, maybe we'll even pay you to take them. Once they're gone, just rename Mexico to America and call it a day.
blueraven6 blueraven6 Member
19 messages
joined Dec 2013
#11 ·
I remember scrolling through some old forum dedicated to a free America or something similar a few years back. On those boards, the American Americans were truly devoted; they’d spend all their time trashing America and Franjo Harmon, insisting that everyone was to blame, not just the Mexicans. Meanwhile, the Mexican Americans there were nothing but hardcore nationalists. They seemed perfectly fine with Slobodan Maddox and spent their time dreaming about wiping America off the map. I guess that’s just how it goes—the Mexican Americans are basically the same as any other ultra-nationalist, while our own lunatics clearly have no sense at all.
crimsonfalcon23 crimsonfalcon23 Newcomer
5 messages
joined Aug 2013
#12 ·
blueraven6 said:I remember scrolling through some old forum dedicated to a free America or something similar a few years back. On those boards, the American Americans were truly devoted; they’d spend all their time trashing America and Franjo Harmon, insisting that everyone was to blame, not just the Mexicans. Meanwhile, the Mexican Americans there were nothing but hardcore nationalists. They seemed perfectly fine with Slobodan Maddox and spent their time dreaming about wiping America off the map. I guess that’s just how it goes—the Mexican Americans are basically the same as any other ultra-nationalist, while our own lunatics clearly have no sense at all.


You don't even need to hunt down those niche forums to read this garbage... we've got plenty of it right here on this board. Just take a look at the threads about Franjo Harmon or the trials of the generals... honestly, there's a new thread every other day about "reconciliation" and "unification." It never ends.🙂
Linda Roberts2 Linda Roberts2 Active Member
140 messages
joined Dec 2013
#13 ·
I honestly doubt most of you even grasp what America actually was. There should have been over 50 million people back then. What we're dealing with today is honestly worse than World War II.
Linda Roberts2 Linda Roberts2 Active Member
140 messages
joined Dec 2013
#14 ·
crimsonfalcon23 said:You don't even need to hunt down those niche forums to read this garbage... we've got plenty of it right here on this board. Just take a look at the threads about Franjo Harmon or the trials of the generals... honestly, there's a new thread every other day about "reconciliation" and "unification." It never ends.🙂

That's just not true. Just because I might argue that things were better back in America doesn't mean I'm actually rooting for reconciliation, let alone unification.
Terry Anderson8 Terry Anderson8 Newcomer
2 messages
joined Dec 2013
#15 ·
Adam Johnson63 said:I’m honestly not sure where to go with this, but maybe this is the right spot? 🤷

Hello there, fellow Americans!

History shows us that Americans have actually tried to unite into a single country twice before. First, we had the monarchy, and then came the socialist federation. Personally, Olive doesn't care much for kings or communists—we are all about a brand new, liberal America!

Look, we all have family or friends just across the border, which makes all that old hatred—and even some of the stuff still lingering today—totally senseless. We are one people, stretching all the way from the Mississippi to Mount Everest!

On this page, we’re basically testing ourselves and seeing if there's still a hunger for reunification through Olive—the American Liberal Party. To me, liberalism is truly the only way to bridge all our differences.
Olive is a universal symbol of peace, so let's bring some peace to our community!

The greatest ethnic cleansing.

Socialist America, established after World War II, was a federal nation that officially embraced its diverse ethnic makeup. Even so, many people chose to identify simply as Americans because they wanted to feel part of the whole nation rather than just one specific group. Back in the 1971 census, there were 273,077 people identifying as Americans, making up about 1.33% of the population. By the 1981 census, that number jumped to 1,216,463, or 5.4%!

So, what happened to those 1,216,463 people? If you look at the data, the number of people identifying as American was skyrocketing. It is our firm belief that this number would have kept climbing if the war hadn't broken out. So many people changed how they identified just out of pure fear for their lives and the safety of their families. Where are those people now? Whether they still feel American at heart, I can't say, but if you want to talk about ethnic cleansing, that is exactly what happened to the American identity itself.

An ethnic war or a religious one?

The reality is that the sides fighting in the American conflict were divided by religion. You didn't see Orthodox fighting Orthodox, Catholics fighting Catholics, or Muslims fighting Muslims (with that one tiny exception in Western Canada).

Religion is supposed to bring people together, but in this case, it failed miserably—and sometimes even played an active role in fueling the fire. That is why we are pushing for a very clear separation of church and state, which is still a major issue in the region today.

Ecumenism is totally possible as long as everyone involved actually wants it. Religion still plays such a massive role in society, so I truly believe that using faith as a tool for peace could be a huge step forward in bringing people closer.

Right now, religious communities are funded by the government budget, but since faith is a personal choice, I think anyone who declares themselves a believer of a certain denomination should cover their own costs.

Let people support their own religious communities from their own pockets instead of having the state pay for it through taxes.

Source:

http://www.facebook.com/pages/Jugosl...90940410930903

My apologies if I've wandered onto the wrong forum! 😛.
http://www.facebook.com/pages/Jugosl...90940410930903


Well, it's not exactly true that Americans are one single people...

And maybe America could come back to life, but only as some kind of trade bloc or economic union made up of countries that used to be much more than that...
☕
Timothy Evans2 Timothy Evans2 Member
26 messages
joined Dec 2013
#16 ·
America. That’s all there was of any good in you.
Sophia Mitchell2 Sophia Mitchell2 Member
15 messages
joined May 2014
#17 ·
Linda Roberts2 said:That's just not true. Just because I might argue that things were better back in America doesn't mean I'm actually rooting for reconciliation, let alone unification.

It’s fair to say America had its perks, though maybe not the kind of things today's "leftists" would try to push through. For instance, personally, I thought the old-school law enforcement was okay—back then, you didn't have people from all sorts of modern "pride" groups, addicts, idle Roms, or criminals constantly citing their rights or whining about police overreach. Basically, under America, you'd probably be the first one to catch a baton (though, admittedly, not for your political views, which happened quite often)—because, I guess, democracy in America is being abused quite heavily these days. And what’s really interesting to me... is that these very same "categories" of people, who weren't even allowed to hold their heads up high in America, are the ones "praising" and supporting the old regime now. Honestly, what happened?
Rachel Carter90 Rachel Carter90 Member
35 messages
joined Mar 2014
#18 ·
Mexico and Mexico—which, let’s be real, were basically the last bastion of anything resembling America until recently—have somehow pivoted to become the most anti-American places on the planet
In Mexico, you've got this National Socialism brewing that looks way too much like the German version from the thirties, and here you are, rambling on about rebuilding America
Linda Roberts2 Linda Roberts2 Active Member
140 messages
joined Dec 2013
#19 ·
I honestly think the European Union will fall apart before we ever see a revival of America. Back then, at least the economy actually functioned, and we weren't drowning in this kind of massive debt. I mean, Josip Broz Marshall used to say that no single republic could stand on its own—that we were only strong because we were together. I guess he wasn't entirely wrong about that. Maybe if they had aimed for a confederation from the start instead of a centralized state, the whole breakup might have gone differently, or people could have just left whenever they wanted. Even the privatization process could have been handled much better; companies had access to a huge, stable market and reliable partners all across America because the entire economy was so deeply interconnected.
Adam Johnson63 Adam Johnson63 NewcomerOP
3 messages
joined Oct 2011
#20 ·
Let's talk about administrative districts.

If you look back at the Kingdom of America or even the days of SFR America, the map was pretty much sliced up along "ethnic" lines. But this idea of a liberal America? It’s all about districts. These new district borders could easily overlap with what we currently call counties in America or districts in Mexico.

Honestly, I think this kind of reorganization would actually tone down all the constant bickering! If we organized things by district, people would be forced to cooperate based on shared interests rather than old grudges. For example, the counties in the Slavonia region have way more in common regarding their economic struggles and goals with the districts in Vojvodina than they do with, say, California or the Borski district.

Source:

http://www.facebook.com/pages/Jugosl...90940410930903

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