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Remembering Ayrton Senna

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mellowtiger83 mellowtiger83 Regular
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#141 ·
Dana Perez6 As stated by Dana Perez6:
Ayrton Senna. je If you park your car right in the middle of the Turn 1 corner, you’ve clearly taken a wrong turn.
Ayrton Senna. je He realized something was off with the car almost immediately.
Upon arriving at Williams, he was perpetually agitated, visibly unsettled, and frankly, just plain angry about the whole situation.
There was a constant, relentless effort to iron out the car's deficiencies. At least that much is certain.
------I suppose there isn't much left to say on the matter. It's all quite settled, really. One simply observes the facts as they present themselves. No need for grand gestures or unnecessary noise. Just the reality of the situation, standing there, plain as day. Everything else is just clutter. It really didn't matter whether he crashed or not—not even to his girlfriend at the time.
Adrianna mentioned that he’d rather sit this one out entirely, given how dissatisfied he is with his current setup.
Track safety is one thing. Car safety is another. But if you fix both... then we run into a whole different set of problems. The situation remains unchanged. It is what it is. And others claimed that it was.
A coward, quite frankly. That’s exactly why he abandoned the whole concept.
So you're claiming his only motivation was winning at any cost? Please. To everyone. It’s simply a matter of the drivers.
Significant. To win.That’s exactly why they’re there. They didn't show up just to pick wildflowers by the roadside.
The track.😁😵🙏

Actually, those little purple markers lining the track serve as visual braking points. Every driver just picks their own specific purple marker to aim for.🙂.

Unless someone catches a glimpse of a struggling fan stumbling around in the distance out of the corner of their eye, they’ll completely miss the braking point.
Dana Perez6 Dana Perez6 Member
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#142 ·
mellowtiger83 said:
Dana Perez6 As stated by Dana Perez6:
Ayrton Senna. je If you park your car right in the middle of the Turn 1 corner, you’ve clearly taken a wrong turn.
Ayrton Senna. je He realized something was off with the car almost immediately.
Upon arriving at Williams, he was perpetually agitated, visibly unsettled, and frankly, just plain angry about the whole situation.
There was a constant, relentless effort to iron out the car's deficiencies. At least that much is certain.
------I suppose there isn't much left to say on the matter. It's all quite settled, really. One simply observes the facts as they present themselves. No need for grand gestures or unnecessary noise. Just the reality of the situation, standing there, plain as day. Everything else is just clutter. It really didn't matter whether he crashed or not—not even to his girlfriend at the time.
Adrianna mentioned that he’d rather sit this one out entirely, given how dissatisfied he is with his current setup.
Track safety is one thing. Car safety is another. But if you fix both... then we run into a whole different set of problems. The situation remains unchanged. It is what it is. And others claimed that it was.
A coward, quite frankly. That’s exactly why he abandoned the whole concept.
So you're claiming his only motivation was winning at any cost? Please. To everyone. It’s simply a matter of the drivers.
Significant. To win.That’s exactly why they’re there. They didn't show up just to pick wildflowers by the roadside.
The track.😁😵🙏

Actually, those little purple markers lining the track serve as visual braking points. Every driver just picks their own specific purple marker to aim for.🙂.

Unless someone catches a glimpse of a struggling fan stumbling around in the distance out of the corner of their eye, they’ll completely miss the braking point.

Hmm....maybe someone wanted to pull a prank on Roland Ratzenberger—sneaking out in the middle of the night with a knife to shave a few inches off his purple marker so he hit his brakes too late... I mean, there are people crazy enough to try stuff like that. And then they claim his front wing just flew off... people will come up with anything. But let's be real: Ayrton Senna definitely didn't use curb markings to signal where a car would fly off a corner into a wall. He wouldn't need to, either; the guy who was busy tampering with the steering column was more precise than any damn curb marker. Sadly.🤦🙏
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mellowtiger83 mellowtiger83 Regular
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#143 ·
Dana Perez6, you just don't get it! Drivers actually rely on things like flowers, patches of grass, and other visual markers to gauge their braking points alongside the standard 300, 200, 100, and 50m signs.
It's how they pinpoint exactly when to hit the brakes.
Dana Perez6 Dana Perez6 Member
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#144 ·
mellowtiger83 said:Dana Perez6, you just don't get it! Drivers actually rely on things like flowers, patches of grass, and other visual markers to gauge their braking points alongside the standard 300, 200, 100, and 50m signs.
It's how they pinpoint exactly when to hit the brakes.

I believe it, because it just makes sense. They have to mark their key points somehow if they're using chalk on the track—you can't see the marks well enough since the cars sit so low to the ground. They probably just aim for some white artificial flowers...😁
fadedwalker18 fadedwalker18 Active MemberOP
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#145 ·
ruggedhawk20 said:Why even bother praising him?

Look, we all get it—Ayrton Senna was a god-tier driver. Maybe even the best of his era.

But let's be real—the guy didn't give a damn about his rivals on the track. Or his fans. He was hands down the biggest egomaniac and narcissist out there.

At Imola 1994, Ayrton Senna should've done exactly what Alain Prost did back in Adelaide 1989.

He should've just hopped out of a bolid that clearly had steering issues. (And since he was such a "legend," he obviously knew something was wrong by the seventh lap.)

But nope—his ego won. Just look at his funeral. Because of his selfishness and this warped view of himself and reality, your boy Ayrton Senna made millions of people miserable in a single second. Millions.

If he wasn't such a massive narcissist, he would've realized he couldn't risk dying for those crowds—he should've pulled the bolid into the pits and swallowed his pride, just like Prost did in Adelaide in '89.

But Senna? He wasn't about swallowing his pride—he'd rather fly off into the afterlife...

Anyone can go out in a blaze of glory—that's the easy part. Real heroes stay on this planet as long as they possibly can... they swallow the bitter pill.

But nah, Senna was built different. He didn't care about anything except himself.

And that’s the legacy Ayrton Senna left behind.

Not Monaco, Toleman, or whatever other nonsense...

Who else do you despise in your illustrious life, besides Adolf Hitler and Ayrton Senna, you noble pool cleaner?

You absolute jerk, just let Ayrton Senna go already.......
brisklynx62 brisklynx62 Member
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#146 ·
ruggedhawk20 is just a total idiot, honestly. I guess it probably says something about me that I’m willing to put them in the same category as this absolute joke of a person
fadedwalker18 fadedwalker18 Active MemberOP
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#147 ·
brisklynx62 said:ruggedhawk20 is just a total idiot, honestly. I guess it probably says something about me that I’m willing to put them in the same category as this absolute joke of a person

Yeah, ruggedhawk20 is a tough one to deal with... he probably just feels a bit envious of everything Ayrton Senna achieved.
The biggest issue with people like him (take Jason Campbell70, for instance) is their tendency toward mythomania.

Whether you call him a legend or a myth, Ayrton Senna was simply a mortal man and a man of faith, just like the rest of us. That's the simple truth.

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Nothing can ever pull me away from God's love.
Jason Campbell70 Jason Campbell70 Veteran
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#148 ·
fadedwalker18 said:Who else do you despise in your illustrious life, besides Adolf Hitler and Ayrton Senna, you noble pool cleaner?

You absolute jerk, just let Ayrton Senna go already.......


stupid stupid


😂😂😂😂😂😂

Guys, without characters like you two, threads like this wouldn't even be half as interesting. 😍
fadedwalker18 fadedwalker18 Active MemberOP
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#149 ·
Jason Campbell70 said:
stupid stupid


😂😂😂😂😂😂

Guys, without characters like you two, threads like this wouldn't even be half as interesting. 😍

Sorry, man... but you might want to find a better way to entertain yourself elsewhere.
Jason Campbell70 Jason Campbell70 Veteran
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#150 ·
How much more fun can you actually get than dealing with mythomania? I’d say I’ve found the right spot.

And honestly, I don't see myself going anywhere else. 🤷
fadedwalker18 fadedwalker18 Active MemberOP
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#151 ·
Jason Campbell70 said:How much more fun can you actually get than dealing with mythomania? I’d say I’ve found the right spot.

And honestly, I don't see myself going anywhere else. 🤷

You're being far too modest... 🍿

All that mythomania belongs in Egypt, Atlantis, or even Antarctica... you won't find any of that here.

☕
mellowtiger83 mellowtiger83 Regular
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#152 ·
Jason Campbell70 said:How much more fun can you actually get than dealing with mythomania? I’d say I’ve found the right spot.

And honestly, I don't see myself going anywhere else. 🤷

Just watch how some French driver, sitting in a lightning-fast car, can't even hold onto the lead for a single full lap against a certain mythomaniac from Brazil.
Just a little refresher!
How much did that Frenchman in the vastly superior machine end up trailing by at the finish?

cosmiccyclist8 cosmiccyclist8 Active Member
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#153 ·
mellowtiger83 said:Just watch how some French driver, sitting in a lightning-fast car, can't even hold onto the lead for a single full lap against a certain mythomaniac from Brazil.
Just a little refresher!
How much did that Frenchman in the vastly superior machine end up trailing by at the finish?


you should also throw in that bit from the 1982 Monaco Grand Prix when he was nearly a minute ahead of Alain Prost with just a few laps left😁 honestly, only an idiot would have actually cruised to the win there😁
cosmiccyclist8 cosmiccyclist8 Active Member
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#154 ·
Yeah, sure—you’re back at it again, listing all those gaps he managed to create through sheer driving wizardry—first comparing him to Hill at Interlagos in '94, and now against Alain Prost... but how does that actually show up in the standings? 🤷 Alain Prost ended up with more points in both of those seasons 🤷 while Hill pulled in more points over just four races 🤷
fadedwalker18 fadedwalker18 Active MemberOP
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#155 ·
cosmiccyclist8 said:you should also throw in that bit from the 1982 Monaco Grand Prix when he was nearly a minute ahead of Alain Prost with just a few laps left😁 honestly, only an idiot would have actually cruised to the win there😁

Go ahead and look up the 1982 Monaco Grand Prix; you'll see exactly how much of a "virtuoso" Alain Prost actually was when he proved himself totally incapable in Monaco, especially since you're bringing up 1988.
darkmarlin16 darkmarlin16 Veteran
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#156 ·
So, who actually outdrove Barrichello there? Who did it better?
cosmiccyclist8 cosmiccyclist8 Active Member
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#157 ·
fadedwalker18 said:Go ahead and look up the 1982 Monaco Grand Prix; you'll see exactly how much of a "virtuoso" Alain Prost actually was when he proved himself totally incapable in Monaco, especially since you're bringing up 1988.

"Well, we've got this ridiculous situation where we're all sitting by the start-finish line waiting for a winner to come past, and we don't seem to be getting one!" - James Hunt 🙏😁

Is that the famous race you're thinking of? Honestly, I don't see the point—what does that race or Prost have to do with anything? What connection could that specific race possibly have to an Ayrton Senna tribute? 😁
ruggedhawk20 ruggedhawk20 Regular
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#158 ·
fadedwalker18 said:You're being far too modest... 🍿

All that mythomania belongs in Egypt, Atlantis, or even Antarctica... you won't find any of that here.

☕

We don't have the cash to fly to Egypt anyway. Plus, all those mythomaniacs in Egypt kicked the bucket thousands of years ago. Even if they were still around, we wouldn't understand a word of Egyptian—so they aren't exactly top of our list.

It's way more fun just messing with you small-brains.
ruggedhawk20 ruggedhawk20 Regular
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#159 ·
mellowtiger83 said:Just watch how some French driver, sitting in a lightning-fast car, can't even hold onto the lead for a single full lap against a certain mythomaniac from Brazil.
Just a little refresher!
How much did that Frenchman in the vastly superior machine end up trailing by at the finish?


Fast forward to the year of our Lord 2019—let's put them all in equal cars and see who's actually got the speed.
mellowtiger83 mellowtiger83 Regular
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#160 ·
ruggedhawk20 said:Fast forward to the year of our Lord 2019—let's put them all in equal cars and see who's actually got the speed.

I asked you a very simple question: how much time did he lose to that car that was two seconds faster by the end? It shouldn't be difficult.

And what about that situation back in the Suzuki 1988?

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