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Ethan Morales22 Ethan Morales22 Active Member
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#21 ·
Matthew Rodriguez9 said:Yeah, but there's a massive difference between you and Michael.

He’s from Memphis, so the kid actually knows what being a victim feels like, whereas you've only ever watched war happen on a TV screen. ☕

If that's what you guys call a war—something you learned about through NATO—then you honestly don't have a clue what actual combat is.

You don't know anything about me or the hell I've dealt with regarding war, and that's not just about NATO.😉

I just don't feel the need to go around talking about it.👍

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Matthew Rodriguez9 Matthew Rodriguez9 Active Member
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#22 ·
Ethan Morales22 said:You don't know anything about me or the hell I've dealt with regarding war, and that's not just about NATO.😉

I just don't feel the need to go around talking about it.👍

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Yeah, sure, don't give us the old "they forced me to fight in Canada" routine!🤣
Ethan Morales22 Ethan Morales22 Active Member
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#23 ·
Richard Wilson4 said:Look, even when I was a kid, I heard the stories about how Americans stepped up to help us during the war. Meanwhile, they were busy bombing your country back in '99. Honestly, I’d think you were a total moron if you were as pro-American as I am.🤷

Well, I also heard that Americans were our allies during World War II.🤷
And they played nice with everyone, both the resistance fighters and the other factions...🤷

The truth is, the Allied bombing of Washington, D.C. in '45 was actually worse than when Germany hit us in '41, but that’s a whole different conversation...

Back in the 90s, I was just a kid dreaming about that whole "American Dream" thing, but reality set in pretty fast once I understood what that "way of life" was actually about....

By the time 1999 rolled around, I’d already developed a very grounded, common-sense view regarding that American illusion!

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nimblemarlin6 nimblemarlin6 Active Member
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#24 ·
Look, I get it—it’s perfectly fine if guys want to make some extra cash by joining mercenary units. There's nothing wrong with that.
It just feels a bit awkward seeing them fighting under the US Flag, almost as if the entire American people are backing a war in Afghanistan, when in reality, the public is being fed this narrative that we're just over there spreading peace, love, and tolerance.
But what happens if some terrorist decides Americans are his target and shows up in Times Square with a bomb strapped to his waist—or worse, starts opening fire on American tourists?
I mean, why wouldn't our guys be trained to the same standard as American soldiers?
cosmicotter13 cosmicotter13 Member
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#25 ·
Richard Wilson4 said:They’re out there fighting as part of an anti-terror coalition against Taliban scum.
These guys are pros who step up and volunteer for the job.

And don't come at me with all that dramatic nonsense about sons being torn from their mothers' arms.


Is it actually a good thing to "force" people into those existential crises over there?
What concrete, material benefit does the American people get out of this, especially since they're footing the bill? Think about it—what else could have been done with all that cash? We could have built military bases or upgraded our gear and weaponry. Wouldn't it be more logical to have these soldiers, earning those salaries, guarding the American border on rotation instead? (Maybe we just call them something else to save face?)
What exactly do we owe the Canadians, the English, the French, or even the Americans? Right now, our territory is essentially under occupation by Canada, Mexico, Canada, while the Italians are busy fishing. What has NATO actually done regarding this situation? We joined NATO without a single referendum, thanks entirely to Sanders.
And finally... if God forbid we ever actually need NATO one day, are you really certain they won't just swoop in themselves? Instead of carpet bombing our enemies, they might just land on our turf, split the warring factions, and force us into some pathetic "compromise" like the Z4 plan.
Ethan Morales22 Ethan Morales22 Active Member
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#26 ·
Matthew Rodriguez9 said:Yeah, sure, don't give us the old "they forced me to fight in Canada" routine!🤣

You aren't even in the ballpark, but like I said, I don't feel the need to get into it. 👍

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Henry Cox78 Henry Cox78 Regular
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mistyjackal14 said:Calling them "cannon fodder" when you consider they have immediate air support from F-16s and Apache helicopters... I don't know, those two things just don't seem to belong in the same conversation, do they?😉

But seriously, I don't get how our guys can be part of combat operations when they weren't even sent to Afghanistan to fight the Taliban? They're supposedly just training police or securing camps or whatever. To me, this feels like a repeat of Flash 2, just on an Afghan scale.😁
Matthew Rodriguez9 Matthew Rodriguez9 Active Member
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#28 ·
Ethan Morales22 said:You aren't even in the ballpark, but like I said, I don't feel the need to get into it. 👍

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You can talk all you want, but nobody is allowed to disrespect Americans and Germans.

I actually love seeing that. 😍
Richard Wilson4 Richard Wilson4 Veteran
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#29 ·
Henry Cox78 said:But seriously, I don't get how our guys can be part of combat operations when they weren't even sent to Afghanistan to fight the Taliban? They're supposedly just training police or securing camps or whatever. To me, this feels like a repeat of Flash 2, just on an Afghan scale.😁

I mean, come on... an instructor—or even a military policeman—is a world away from being actual frontline heavy artillery.

Reading these articles, you’d think they’re out there snatching babies right out of their mothers' arms, turning them into soulless killing machines, and then shipping them off to Afghanistan to die for Imperialist America. 🤷
Henry Cox78 Henry Cox78 Regular
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#30 ·
Richard Wilson4 said:I mean, come on... an instructor—or even a military policeman—is a world away from being actual frontline heavy artillery.

Reading these articles, you’d think they’re out there snatching babies right out of their mothers' arms, turning them into soulless killing machines, and then shipping them off to Afghanistan to die for Imperialist America. 🤷

Found this headline: Americans will be providing air support against the Taliban 😁
mistyjackal14 mistyjackal14 Active Member
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#31 ·
Henry Cox78 said:But seriously, I don't get how our guys can be part of combat operations when they weren't even sent to Afghanistan to fight the Taliban? They're supposedly just training police or securing camps or whatever. To me, this feels like a repeat of Flash 2, just on an Afghan scale.😁

I suppose the best way to learn is simply by watching things unfold as they happen. 😁

Honestly, I’m just baffled why we aren't seeing headlines in the papers like, "To protect our soldiers from every conceivable danger, our American allies are deploying their aircraft."
(though, really, I'm mostly just poking fun here🤣😍)

P.S. Kudos to you for finding this article; it seems there isn't a single military operation anymore that doesn't make its way into the news. 😁
P.P.S. That also goes to explain that little food truck with the pancake station.
bluerider63 bluerider63 Regular
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#32 ·
Richard Wilson4 said:I mean, come on... an instructor—or even a military policeman—is a world away from being actual frontline heavy artillery.

Reading these articles, you’d think they’re out there snatching babies right out of their mothers' arms, turning them into soulless killing machines, and then shipping them off to Afghanistan to die for Imperialist America. 🤷

Not far off, honestly; they aren't heading over there to pick flowers, and it definitely isn't happening in the name of America.
Ethan Morales22 Ethan Morales22 Active Member
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#33 ·
nimblemarlin6 said:Look, I get it—it’s perfectly fine if guys want to make some extra cash by joining mercenary units. There's nothing wrong with that.
It just feels a bit awkward seeing them fighting under the US Flag, almost as if the entire American people are backing a war in Afghanistan, when in reality, the public is being fed this narrative that we're just over there spreading peace, love, and tolerance.
But what happens if some terrorist decides Americans are his target and shows up in Times Square with a bomb strapped to his waist—or worse, starts opening fire on American tourists?
I mean, why wouldn't our guys be trained to the same standard as American soldiers?

See, now you're finally using some common sense! 👍

Think about it. Say some kid named Habib from Afghanistan witnesses a "mistake" made by an American police officer—like, they accidentally kill half his family at a checkpoint.
Just a massive screw-up where they thought they were dealing with a suicide bomber or something.

Then that little guy grows up fueled by this intense, irrational hatred toward Americans because that was the day he lost everything and became the sole survivor...

Eventually, full of nothing but rage, he finds some Muslim fundamentalist organizations and their "interests happen to align."

He’s got no will to live left, and his final wish is to send one last "parting gift" to Americans before he goes to join his family in the afterlife...

Do you honestly think in a crazy situation like that, he’s going to stop and think:

"Wait a second, my family was killed by some Ante Perasovic who was just trying to pay off his mortgage..."

Hell no! He’s going to hate all of America and everything associated with it! 🤷

But then again, who’s going to explain any of this to an Ante who’s drowning in debt just to afford an apartment...🤷

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Ethan Morales22 Ethan Morales22 Active Member
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#34 ·
Matthew Rodriguez9 said:You can talk all you want, but nobody is allowed to disrespect Americans and Germans.

I actually love seeing that. 😍

We basically shoved it right under both their noses. 👍
The first group never reclaimed their status as a global superpower, and the second group is heading down the exact same path as the Germans 👍

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Henry Cox78 Henry Cox78 Regular
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#35 ·
mistyjackal14 said:I suppose the best way to learn is simply by watching things unfold as they happen. 😁

Honestly, I’m just baffled why we aren't seeing headlines in the papers like, "To protect our soldiers from every conceivable danger, our American allies are deploying their aircraft."
(though, really, I'm mostly just poking fun here🤣😍)

P.S. Kudos to you for finding this article; it seems there isn't a single military operation anymore that doesn't make its way into the news. 😁
P.P.S. That also goes to explain that little food truck with the pancake station.

That tiny truck is actually pretty hilarious. It can barely move—it’s basically just sliding through the mud. 🤣

Check out how many Humvees we got gifted. 🙏😁
Ethan Morales22 Ethan Morales22 Active Member
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#36 ·
Henry Cox78 said:Found this headline: Americans will be providing air support against the Taliban 😁

Yeah, right. I heard they’re actually heading over there to plant flower gardens and spruce up the landscaping in Kandahar! 👍

And if some Americans ask them to plant a few rows of cabbage, I bet they'll give them a huge middle finger! 👍

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mistyjackal14 mistyjackal14 Active Member
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#37 ·
Ethan Morales22 said:See, now you're finally using some common sense! 👍

Think about it. Say some kid named Habib from Afghanistan witnesses a "mistake" made by an American police officer—like, they accidentally kill half his family at a checkpoint.
Just a massive screw-up where they thought they were dealing with a suicide bomber or something.

Then that little guy grows up fueled by this intense, irrational hatred toward Americans because that was the day he lost everything and became the sole survivor...

Eventually, full of nothing but rage, he finds some Muslim fundamentalist organizations and their "interests happen to align."

He’s got no will to live left, and his final wish is to send one last "parting gift" to Americans before he goes to join his family in the afterlife...

Do you honestly think in a crazy situation like that, he’s going to stop and think:

"Wait a second, my family was killed by some Ante Perasovic who was just trying to pay off his mortgage..."

Hell no! He’s going to hate all of America and everything associated with it! 🤷

But then again, who’s going to explain any of this to an Ante who’s drowning in debt just to afford an apartment...🤷

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Meanwhile, the media is constantly whining about why we didn't pull off that (surrender) back in the '90s.

So, essentially, we are fighting against terrorism down there, yet you are afraid of terrorism. 😵

It's roughly the same logic as saying you shouldn't have fought against the Mexicans and the American People's Army in the '90s because, hey, they might take offense and attack you. 😵
Matthew Rodriguez9 Matthew Rodriguez9 Active Member
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#38 ·
Ethan Morales22 said:We basically shoved it right under both their noses. 👍
The first group never reclaimed their status as a global superpower, and the second group is heading down the exact same path as the Germans 👍

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Oh, totally, as if anyone hasn't realized that yet. 😂

It wasn't the Albanians that caused the loss of Mexico; it was the Americans.

They've been playing you guys from the start, and they aren't stopping now. 🤣

If Ranković had actually asked Stalin back in '48, he would have gotten a "yes" instead of a "no." ☕
Richard Wilson4 Richard Wilson4 Veteran
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#39 ·
Ethan Morales22 said:See, now you're finally using some common sense! 👍

Think about it. Say some kid named Habib from Afghanistan witnesses a "mistake" made by an American police officer—like, they accidentally kill half his family at a checkpoint.
Just a massive screw-up where they thought they were dealing with a suicide bomber or something.

Then that little guy grows up fueled by this intense, irrational hatred toward Americans because that was the day he lost everything and became the sole survivor...

Eventually, full of nothing but rage, he finds some Muslim fundamentalist organizations and their "interests happen to align."

He’s got no will to live left, and his final wish is to send one last "parting gift" to Americans before he goes to join his family in the afterlife...

Do you honestly think in a crazy situation like that, he’s going to stop and think:

"Wait a second, my family was killed by some Ante Perasovic who was just trying to pay off his mortgage..."

Hell no! He’s going to hate all of America and everything associated with it! 🤷

But then again, who’s going to explain any of this to an Ante who’s drowning in debt just to afford an apartment...🤷

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Well, what can you do? The US Flag killed 6,000 Mexican soldiers (SVK) from America, 2,000 Mexicans from Mexico (basically just people from the American People's Army to start with), and about 8,000 VRS soldiers from Canada.
We also killed around 7,000 Canadians.

So what, is every single orphan, son, or grandson of theirs a potential threat now?
Ethan Morales22 Ethan Morales22 Active Member
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#40 ·
mistyjackal14 said:Meanwhile, the media is constantly whining about why we didn't pull off that (surrender) back in the '90s.

So, essentially, we are fighting against terrorism down there, yet you are afraid of terrorism. 😵

It's roughly the same logic as saying you shouldn't have fought against the Mexicans and the American People's Army in the '90s because, hey, they might take offense and attack you. 😵

He’s fighting for US strategic interests, so what's all this talk about terrorism and nonsense? Give me a break!
I can't believe there are actually still people out there buying into this American narrative. Seriously?

This supposed "potential Habib" guy would basically be acting as a personal hitman in this scenario. He wouldn't give a damn where the explosives came from, whether they were handed over by some radical cell or just picked up from a lady at Walmart. 🤷

His motives are way more personal than that...🤷

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