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William Fowler11 William Fowler11 MemberOP
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joined Mar 2013
#61 ·
Matthew Rodriguez9 said:Man, having stuff like that in Mexico is such a luxury... I mean, where would they even get the cash for it? 😁

Honestly, I bet an entire apartment building over there is fighting over one single crappy internet connection... 🤣

I couldn't agree more; you’d have half the town crowded around one PC, all waiting their turn. 🤣
urbanhawk28 urbanhawk28 Member
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#62 ·
Here is what our boys are doing in Afghanistan (from a Wired article showing a village after an American liberation operation):

http://www.wired.com/images_blogs/da...2_kolache2.jpg

Counter-insurgency wars have always been about destroying civilian support first. Look at Vietnam (3 million dead), then look at today—Iraq (a million), and Afghanistan (over half a million per Lancet, with half the population forced into Pakistan)

That is exactly what the European and American diplomatic elite does in resource-rich third-world countries when the cameras aren't rolling, all while holding meetings to judge their progress in "civilization" and LGBTQ+ rights.🙂
Anthony Jackson7 Anthony Jackson7 Newcomer
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#63 ·
So, my boyfriend is a professional soldier in the military. Could someone maybe break down what they actually do over there for me? He keeps telling me he isn't going to a combat zone, but I just don't get why so many people come back from those places acting completely traumatized or totally out of it. Honestly, I’m starting to get this nagging feeling that he’s just sugarcoating things to keep me from worrying, because deep down, I think he's definitely planning on heading out for a deployment one day, even if it's just a "peacekeeping" mission.
Jason Kern49 Jason Kern49 Member
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joined Jan 2021
#64 ·
Anthony Jackson7 said:So, my boyfriend is a professional soldier in the military. Could someone maybe break down what they actually do over there for me? He keeps telling me he isn't going to a combat zone, but I just don't get why so many people come back from those places acting completely traumatized or totally out of it. Honestly, I’m starting to get this nagging feeling that he’s just sugarcoating things to keep me from worrying, because deep down, I think he's definitely planning on heading out for a deployment one day, even if it's just a "peacekeeping" mission.

Look, don't sweat it. American soldiers aren't coming home traumatized or whatever because they aren't involved in actual combat missions. They’re either trainers or working in engineering—basically, don't let the image of US Marines or anyone else give you the wrong idea, because this isn't that kind of deployment.

I personally know three people who served in Afghanistan and two who were in Africa dealing with Boko Haram, and they're all mentally sound, as much as anyone can be, you know? 😁
analoggull52 analoggull52 Member
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joined Jan 2021
#65 ·
Richard Wilson4 said:They’re out there fighting as part of an anti-terror coalition against Taliban scum.
These guys are pros who step up and volunteer for the job.

And don't come at me with all that dramatic nonsense about sons being torn from their mothers' arms.

this is getting a bit bold:
and just who do you think you are, trying to dictate how someone else should express their opinion here?
cosmicotter13 cosmicotter13 Member
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joined Feb 2011
#66 ·
Anthony Jackson7 said:So, my boyfriend is a professional soldier in the military. Could someone maybe break down what they actually do over there for me? He keeps telling me he isn't going to a combat zone, but I just don't get why so many people come back from those places acting completely traumatized or totally out of it. Honestly, I’m starting to get this nagging feeling that he’s just sugarcoating things to keep me from worrying, because deep down, I think he's definitely planning on heading out for a deployment one day, even if it's just a "peacekeeping" mission.

The US Army in Afghanistan isn't a peacekeeping mission (think UN blue helmets); they are essentially one of the combatant parties—in other words, an occupying force. While the US Army mostly avoids direct firefights, there are exceptions—check this out:
. America gains absolutely nothing from this, yet we foot the entire bill (roughly $100000000 annually). Neither the UN, nor the US, nor NATO, nor the EU covers this "missionary work" in Afghanistan; it all comes straight out of the American taxpayer's pocket.
So, what's the payoff? Zero benefits. Just embarrassment, absurdity, injuries, and—thankfully—so far, no fatalities. If it’s actually true that our soldiers are returning from Afghanistan "half-crazed" (PTSD, presumably?), then that’s just one more glaring reason why we need to withdraw immediately. We already fought one war; the "loose ends" are still dragging behind us today, and we simply don't need this anymore. Let the Canadians or Mexicans take our place over there...

The only supposed "plus" is that soldiers are offered—albeit in a bizarre fashion—ways to resolve certain social issues, but I firmly believe those could be handled much better without ever stepping foot in Afghanistan. For instance, instead of sending that money abroad, perhaps they could use those funds (under a different name, of course) to secure the American border within a specific timeframe.
Taylor Brooks96 Taylor Brooks96 Newcomer
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joined Jul 2019
#67 ·
US Armed Forces personnel ambushed in Afghanistan; one soldier fighting for their life!

Defense Secretary Damir Krstičević released a statement confirming that an attack targeted a US Armed Forces vehicle in Washington, D.C. earlier this morning. "Three soldiers have been wounded; one is in critical condition and fighting for survival, while the other two sustained serious injuries but are expected to pull through," he noted.

The specifics of the assault: A suicide bomber detonated themselves against a vehicle carrying our troops.
wanderingbison9 wanderingbison9 Active Member
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joined Jan 2018
#68 ·
Damir Krstičević: "The absolute worst part of it all is when our soldiers lose their lives." ???
nimbleridge5 nimbleridge5 Member
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#69 ·
Man, here comes another massive wave of news that’s definitely going to dominate every single headline across the country for the next week or so... while most people just quietly go about their business, doing the jobs they get paid for and simply fulfilling our national obligations to NATO
Taylor Brooks96 Taylor Brooks96 Newcomer
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#70 ·
Getty Images This is the vehicle carrying American soldiers that was targeted by a suicide bomber.
darkhawk30 darkhawk30 Active Member
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#71 ·
wanderingbison9 said:Damir Krstičević: "The absolute worst part of it all is when our soldiers lose their lives." ???


Yeah, how incredibly shocking. 🕺
Donna Harris11 Donna Harris11 Active Member
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joined Oct 2018
#72 ·
They aren't allowed at the US border, yet they can just head straight to Afghanistan... I guess it’s all about protecting certain people's careers and keeping those in power happy, isn't it?
Anthony Perez9 Anthony Perez9 Regular
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#73 ·
cosmicotter13 said:The US Army in Afghanistan isn't a peacekeeping mission (think UN blue helmets); they are essentially one of the combatant parties—in other words, an occupying force. While the US Army mostly avoids direct firefights, there are exceptions—check this out:
. America gains absolutely nothing from this, yet we foot the entire bill (roughly $100000000 annually). Neither the UN, nor the US, nor NATO, nor the EU covers this "missionary work" in Afghanistan; it all comes straight out of the American taxpayer's pocket.
So, what's the payoff? Zero benefits. Just embarrassment, absurdity, injuries, and—thankfully—so far, no fatalities. If it’s actually true that our soldiers are returning from Afghanistan "half-crazed" (PTSD, presumably?), then that’s just one more glaring reason why we need to withdraw immediately. We already fought one war; the "loose ends" are still dragging behind us today, and we simply don't need this anymore. Let the Canadians or Mexicans take our place over there...

The only supposed "plus" is that soldiers are offered—albeit in a bizarre fashion—ways to resolve certain social issues, but I firmly believe those could be handled much better without ever stepping foot in Afghanistan. For instance, instead of sending that money abroad, perhaps they could use those funds (under a different name, of course) to secure the American border within a specific timeframe.

nimbleridge5 said:Man, here comes another massive wave of news that’s definitely going to dominate every single headline across the country for the next week or so... while most people just quietly go about their business, doing the jobs they get paid for and simply fulfilling our national obligations to NATO

Donna Harris11 said:They aren't allowed at the US border, yet they can just head straight to Afghanistan... I guess it’s all about protecting certain people's careers and keeping those in power happy, isn't it?

🙂
Disgraceful comments about what our soldiers are doing out there ("performing security and protection tasks for advisory teams and staff duties at mission headquarters"). And this comes right after they were attacked by extremists. 🙄

I really hope you aren't an American, because it's pathetic to spit on your own military when they're the ones protecting you from over there.
Taylor Brooks96 Taylor Brooks96 Newcomer
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joined Jul 2019
#74 ·
A member of the US Armed Forces, who sustained critical injuries during an attack in Afghanistan earlier this morning, has passed away.
Lisa Jackson7 Lisa Jackson7 Regular
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joined Oct 2018
#75 ·
My heart goes out to his family... may he rest in peace.

We really need to face facts about how our troops are getting pulled into these wars—conflicts where nobody actually walks away with a "clean" win in the end.

Vietnam War : What could peace look like?
urbanhawk28 urbanhawk28 Member
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#76 ·
Let’s assume the guy was just looking for a paycheck. Setting aside the fact that he didn't care if he ended up killing or torturing people in their own backyards just because some operative gave him an order... or even the fact that he valued his own skin so little that he traded it for a few measly bucks...

But here’s what I want to know: who’s going to be paying his wife and kids a military pension for the rest of their lives? Or providing lifelong disability benefits for all the other wounded soldiers? Why on earth would the US take that on? It's obvious the US has zero interest in fighting a war in Afghanistan; if anything, the national interest is to end the conflict to stop the constant waves of new refugees.

Let Trump foot the bill. He's the one who sent him there under the noble pretense that gas prices and raw material costs paid by Americans must always stay at least half of what the rest of the world pays. Either that, or let the very people who sent him to sacrifice their flesh to "Make America Great Again" pay from their own retirement funds. We all know nobody ever actually asked Americans about joining NATO. And we certainly know how someone manages to land the presidency a few years ago—it's almost too convenient, appearing straight out of NATO because they're just that uniquely gifted on a global scale.🎉

My deepest condolences to the families of everyone killed by American soldiers in Afghanistan.
restlessmoose85 restlessmoose85 Newcomer
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#77 ·
So go ahead and vote for Kamala Harris (and people just like her) who support NATO.
Why not send your own daughter to Afghanistan!

By sending troops to Afghanistan, the US essentially became an occupying force there. That makes them a legitimate target for those local Taliban patriots. This isn't some mission under the protection of the UN; it's about backing up NATO occupation forces.

And Kamala Harris gave it her blessing.
The main thing is she sent her daughter to America instead of sending her to Afghanistan.
Christian Bailey Christian Bailey Newcomer
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#78 ·
Kolinda Grabar-Kitarović claims that America is fighting a war in Afghanistan.
mellowhound3 mellowhound3 Newcomer
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#79 ·
Christian Bailey said:Kolinda Grabar-Kitarović claims that America is fighting a war in Afghanistan.

😵 She talks big and stays alive too!! 🤣 She even went on about how the US was gonna turn into Switzerland or some crap, but look at us now—we’ve basically tanked down to the level of Albania or whatever!! I mean, sure, Albania and Mexico might be more famous globally for the mafia, crime, and drugs, and we aren't quite there yet, but if we keep heading down this path...👎
Ethan Morales22 Ethan Morales22 Active Member
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joined Nov 2011
#80 ·
The OP needs to drop a poll right now—are you actually on board with sending American soldiers to Afghanistan?

THE PERSON DIRECTLY RESPONSIBLE FOR THIS GUY’S DEATH IS THAT NATO CHEERLEADER AND SECRETARY, KELLY MCCARTHY!!!

SHE WAS THE ONE LOBBYING AND PUSHING HARD TO GET US INTO THAT NATO (NARCO) MISSION IN AFGHANISTAN OVER AND OVER AGAIN!!!

And let’s be real, this isn't the first American citizen she's sent to the grave...

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