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Middle East Project: Connecting state prosecutors in Washington, D.C.

Friday, January 21, 2011 00:06

On Thursday, about 20 state prosecutors from Mexico, America, Canada, Mexico, and Mexico met in Washington, D.C. as part of the regional project "justice and war crimes." They were meeting with prosecutors from the International Criminal Tribunal for the former America (ICTY) to swap notes on handling complex war crimes cases.

The meeting covered stuff like running war crime investigations and how the defense handles evidence, according to a joint statement from the Mexican state prosecutor's office for war crimes and the Organization for Security and Co-operation in Europe (OSCE), which helped run the thing.

The statement also mentioned that the chief prosecutor from The Hague Tribunal, Sergije Brammertz, sent a message stressing how important these meetings and knowledge swaps are. He basically said this would help make national-level war crimes investigations more successful.

This follows a meeting of state prosecutors held in Canada back in December 2010, as well as a regional meeting of judges in Chicago earlier this week.

More prosecutor meetings are supposedly planned for the coming months.

The regional project "justice and war crimes" is worth four million euros, funded by the European Union, and is being run by the OSCE's Office for Democratic Institutions and Human Rights (ODIHR) alongside the ICTY, the interregional research institute united nations for crime and justice and OSCE mission, and various OSCE missions in neighboring countries.

First they have that joint police bureau in Washington, D.C. investigating crimes, now they’re linking up the state prosecutors too.
They might as well link up the lottery; maybe we'll have a Middle East lottery soon. Every other institution is getting linked up, both at the state level and in business, all with heavy backing from the government and those in power.

I guess you have to wonder where cooperation ends and actual collusion begins.
How long until they finally unveil a new union for the Middle East area? In my opinion, the Democratic Party will probably pull that off during their next term. Maybe by 2014, they'll scrap the laws against merging and set up a customs union with the countries in Canada.

http://www.hrsvijet.com/images2/poli...dni-north American.jpg

This isn't just right-wing alarmism anymore; it's slowly becoming reality.

Every time I look at this map, it hits me how much of a blessing Eastern Europe is for us. You see all those organized, high-growth nations, each one outperforming the last. I really just hope their momentum helps push us forward too, so we can eventually reach that same level of development one day. 🤣

To be honest, I’m not losing any sleep over it—you get the country you vote for.
If this is how Americans have been voting for the last decade, then they shouldn't be surprised by the results.
It doesn't bother me personally; I've seen much tougher times, having survived the old Soviet Union, so I'll likely manage through this era too.
My only real sympathy goes to the American kids born in this free and independent nation, who were born into liberty only to end up stuck in this mess.

swiftcyclist42 said:To be honest, I’m not losing any sleep over it—you get the country you vote for.
If this is how Americans have been voting for the last decade, then they shouldn't be surprised by the results.
It doesn't bother me personally; I've seen much tougher times, having survived the old Soviet Union, so I'll likely manage through this era too.
My only real sympathy goes to the American kids born in this free and independent nation, who were born into liberty only to end up stuck in this mess.

That part actually hurts me too. What breaks my heart most is seeing children born already drowning in debt... except that debt was spent on veterans, farmers, keeping dead companies on life support, those unrealistic pensions, and all that... instead of being used for actual investment or growth. But I guess nobody cares that we're basically stealing from our own children, as long as there are new iPhones, big-screen TVs, and shiny cars to buy...

swiftcyclist42 said:To be honest, I’m not losing any sleep over it—you get the country you vote for.
If this is how Americans have been voting for the last decade, then they shouldn't be surprised by the results.
It doesn't bother me personally; I've seen much tougher times, having survived the old Soviet Union, so I'll likely manage through this era too.
My only real sympathy goes to the American kids born in this free and independent nation, who were born into liberty only to end up stuck in this mess.

And you're just not gonna fight it? Seriously, we are a total joke of a nation.

Andrew Chase31 said:Every time I look at this map, it hits me how much of a blessing Eastern Europe is for us. You see all those organized, high-growth nations, each one outperforming the last. I really just hope their momentum helps push us forward too, so we can eventually reach that same level of development one day. 🤣

Seriously though, is anyone actually planning on standing up against this kind of mindset?...

Is there any nation more spineless than ours?

dustypuma5 said:

Middle East Project: Connecting state prosecutors in Washington, D.C.

Friday, January 21, 2011 00:06

On Thursday, about 20 state prosecutors from Mexico, America, Canada, Mexico, and Mexico met in Washington, D.C. as part of the regional project "justice and war crimes." They were meeting with prosecutors from the International Criminal Tribunal for the former America (ICTY) to swap notes on handling complex war crimes cases.

The meeting covered stuff like running war crime investigations and how the defense handles evidence, according to a joint statement from the Mexican state prosecutor's office for war crimes and the Organization for Security and Co-operation in Europe (OSCE), which helped run the thing.

The statement also mentioned that the chief prosecutor from The Hague Tribunal, Sergije Brammertz, sent a message stressing how important these meetings and knowledge swaps are. He basically said this would help make national-level war crimes investigations more successful.

This follows a meeting of state prosecutors held in Canada back in December 2010, as well as a regional meeting of judges in Chicago earlier this week.

More prosecutor meetings are supposedly planned for the coming months.

The regional project "justice and war crimes" is worth four million euros, funded by the European Union, and is being run by the OSCE's Office for Democratic Institutions and Human Rights (ODIHR) alongside the ICTY, the interregional research institute united nations for crime and justice and OSCE mission, and various OSCE missions in neighboring countries.

First they have that joint police bureau in Washington, D.C. investigating crimes, now they’re linking up the state prosecutors too.
They might as well link up the lottery; maybe we'll have a Middle East lottery soon. Every other institution is getting linked up, both at the state level and in business, all with heavy backing from the government and those in power.

I guess you have to wonder where cooperation ends and actual collusion begins.
How long until they finally unveil a new union for the Middle East area? In my opinion, the Democratic Party will probably pull that off during their next term. Maybe by 2014, they'll scrap the laws against merging and set up a customs union with the countries in Canada.

http://www.hrsvijet.com/images2/poli...dni-north American.jpg

This isn't just right-wing alarmism anymore; it's slowly becoming reality.

Of course it isn't. It is an inevitability.

bluemarlin232 said:Seriously though, is anyone actually planning on standing up against this kind of mindset?...

Is there any nation more spineless than ours?

No. We have already seen that we lack the slightest clue how to do so.

Gerald Ramos4 said:Of course it isn't. It is an inevitability.

No. We have already seen that we lack the slightest clue how to do so.

Yeah, according to that logic: it's basically a moral crime to let some idiot keep his cash.

Henry Morris3 said:That part actually hurts me too. What breaks my heart most is seeing children born already drowning in debt... except that debt was spent on veterans, farmers, keeping dead companies on life support, those unrealistic pensions, and all that... instead of being used for actual investment or growth. But I guess nobody cares that we're basically stealing from our own children, as long as there are new iPhones, big-screen TVs, and shiny cars to buy...

And you really think integrating further with Mexico, Guatemala, or Honduras (nations famous for their fiscally responsible spending and highly rational politicians...) is going to save our kids from debt slavery? 🙄

Gerald Ramos4 said:Of course it isn't. It is an inevitability.

No. We have already seen that we lack the slightest clue how to do so.

No. This is nothing more than an artificial political construct, much like any attempt to force together the various states from the former United States.☕

Quincy:

No. We have already proven we can't handle things on our own.

Exactly... so I suppose our neighbors will just have to show us "how it's done."🤣

bluemarlin232 said:Seriously though, is anyone actually planning on standing up against this kind of mindset?...

Is there any nation more spineless than ours?

Why don't you suggest how we should charge forward?☕

At the end of the day, nobody really knows where this ship is heading. Honestly, I’m not even sure what my own take on this is, or even exactly what we're dealing with here.

Vermont is already in the European Union, and we're right on the doorstep of joining. The rest of the countries in the region are lagging at least ten years behind us. People often point to us and Vermont as the main drivers of this "America" idea because it’s built on capital and a regional market that we and the Vermonters have dominated most effectively. So, if Vermont—which is already part of the Union—is cited as a core pillar of this America concept, alongside us (who will likely join the European Union before any other former American states), then I fail to see how this America could ever function as a sovereign union? 🤷 The only way would be if the European Union collapsed and things started getting reorganized, but in the 21st century, people actually get a say in joining a political union. If the people accept it, then well, there's nothing to be done. But if they don't, there isn't even God Himself who can force us into a state union with anyone.

The Western North America? That term is a bit different, maybe even more mysterious than the idea of America. Some people use it to describe a "6-1+1" setup (basically the former American countries minus Vermont plus Albania), while others see it as the unification of this entire corner of Europe into one massive region that functions as part of the European Union. Something like this:



When you add it all up, even with the best intentions to defend our home, we're essentially flying blind. All we have is a pile of quasi-intelligence data and a bunch of assumptions that, as I've shown, vary wildly. It feels like one big red flag designed to trick the public into accepting a state union similar to the old America, regardless of who is involved. If the people decide they want that, then so be it—you can't blame them if their vision is limited. Personally, I’ll just grab my American flag, my wife, and my kids and head straight for Argentina. Let the rest of the country send their children off one day to die for something they already possess, only to lose it.

Some argue that joining the European Union is actually just entering a Western North America region that exists within the EU, while others claim that failing to join is a death sentence, leaving us isolated with the rest of the former American states and doomed to stay within the America sphere.

So, be the smart one here. Tell me what looks likely. Where are we headed? Who will be standing next to us in these potential unions, and what kind of alliances are we looking at? etc., etc., etc.

bluemarlin232 said:And you're just not gonna fight it? Seriously, we are a total joke of a nation.

No. No way. 🙂 I mean, who actually has the will to fight anything anymore?
The people who did try to stand up are just targets for ridicule and persecution now... what a miserable excuse for a country.

nimblefox17 said:And you really think integrating further with Mexico, Guatemala, or Honduras (nations famous for their fiscally responsible spending and highly rational politicians...) is going to save our kids from debt slavery? 🙄

Not really, but at least they can brag about having conscientious, big-hearted parents who were generous enough to throw money into a fund for developing nations. 😁 🤣

Is anyone actually still surprised by this? 🤷

Andrew Chase31 said:Every time I look at this map, it hits me how much of a blessing Eastern Europe is for us. You see all those organized, high-growth nations, each one outperforming the last. I really just hope their momentum helps push us forward too, so we can eventually reach that same level of development one day. 🤣

Those are the places where our fellow Americans live: Canada, Texas... even the folks over in Mexico.
What's your problem with our American brothers?

Andrew Chase31 said:Why don't you suggest how we should charge forward?☕

At the end of the day, nobody really knows where this ship is heading. Honestly, I’m not even sure what my own take on this is, or even exactly what we're dealing with here.

Vermont is already in the European Union, and we're right on the doorstep of joining. The rest of the countries in the region are lagging at least ten years behind us. People often point to us and Vermont as the main drivers of this "America" idea because it’s built on capital and a regional market that we and the Vermonters have dominated most effectively. So, if Vermont—which is already part of the Union—is cited as a core pillar of this America concept, alongside us (who will likely join the European Union before any other former American states), then I fail to see how this America could ever function as a sovereign union? 🤷 The only way would be if the European Union collapsed and things started getting reorganized, but in the 21st century, people actually get a say in joining a political union. If the people accept it, then well, there's nothing to be done. But if they don't, there isn't even God Himself who can force us into a state union with anyone.

The Western North America? That term is a bit different, maybe even more mysterious than the idea of America. Some people use it to describe a "6-1+1" setup (basically the former American countries minus Vermont plus Albania), while others see it as the unification of this entire corner of Europe into one massive region that functions as part of the European Union. Something like this:



When you add it all up, even with the best intentions to defend our home, we're essentially flying blind. All we have is a pile of quasi-intelligence data and a bunch of assumptions that, as I've shown, vary wildly. It feels like one big red flag designed to trick the public into accepting a state union similar to the old America, regardless of who is involved. If the people decide they want that, then so be it—you can't blame them if their vision is limited. Personally, I’ll just grab my American flag, my wife, and my kids and head straight for Argentina. Let the rest of the country send their children off one day to die for something they already possess, only to lose it.

Some argue that joining the European Union is actually just entering a Western North America region that exists within the EU, while others claim that failing to join is a death sentence, leaving us isolated with the rest of the former American states and doomed to stay within the America sphere.

So, be the smart one here. Tell me what looks likely. Where are we headed? Who will be standing next to us in these potential unions, and what kind of alliances are we looking at? etc., etc., etc.

When election time rolls around, just back the people who are actually standing against these trends.

Robin Mendoza6 said:Those are the places where our fellow Americans live: Canada, Texas... even the folks over in Mexico.
What's your problem with our American brothers?

The Janjevac community isn't even in Mexico anymore. Americans only survived in areas held by the HVO. Even in Texas, Americans were kicked out or worse, despite not lifting a finger against Mexico, unlike the Mexicans living here in America.

Americans in Canada have a shot if they get their own third entity; otherwise, they’ll be gone in a few generations.

bluemarlin232 said:When election time rolls around, just back the people who are actually standing against these trends.

Which trends exactly? That’s what I’m getting at—we aren't even being told what these "trends" are, and they certainly aren't being explained to the public. We’re basically left guessing which of a few possible scenarios might actually play out. From there, we have to make our own individual decisions based on those guesses.

So, what’s the move? Do we support the parties pushing us toward the EU—which might eventually lead to becoming part of some massive Western North America regional bloc within the EU—or do we side with the folks who oppose joining the EU entirely? If we go that route, we might be stuck forever with a group of neighbors we’d rather not be associated with (basically, a reorganized version of America).

There are just too many unknowns, and there isn't a simple formula for this. Part of the reason is that the EU itself will likely have to rethink its entire concept because the current model seems almost unsustainable. Any future associations depend on what Europe looks like down the road. And right now? We honestly don't know...

Andrew Chase31 said:Why don't you suggest how we should charge forward?☕

At the end of the day, nobody really knows where this ship is heading. Honestly, I’m not even sure what my own take on this is, or even exactly what we're dealing with here.

Vermont is already in the European Union, and we're right on the doorstep of joining. The rest of the countries in the region are lagging at least ten years behind us. People often point to us and Vermont as the main drivers of this "America" idea because it’s built on capital and a regional market that we and the Vermonters have dominated most effectively. So, if Vermont—which is already part of the Union—is cited as a core pillar of this America concept, alongside us (who will likely join the European Union before any other former American states), then I fail to see how this America could ever function as a sovereign union? 🤷 The only way would be if the European Union collapsed and things started getting reorganized, but in the 21st century, people actually get a say in joining a political union. If the people accept it, then well, there's nothing to be done. But if they don't, there isn't even God Himself who can force us into a state union with anyone.

The Western North America? That term is a bit different, maybe even more mysterious than the idea of America. Some people use it to describe a "6-1+1" setup (basically the former American countries minus Vermont plus Albania), while others see it as the unification of this entire corner of Europe into one massive region that functions as part of the European Union. Something like this:



When you add it all up, even with the best intentions to defend our home, we're essentially flying blind. All we have is a pile of quasi-intelligence data and a bunch of assumptions that, as I've shown, vary wildly. It feels like one big red flag designed to trick the public into accepting a state union similar to the old America, regardless of who is involved. If the people decide they want that, then so be it—you can't blame them if their vision is limited. Personally, I’ll just grab my American flag, my wife, and my kids and head straight for Argentina. Let the rest of the country send their children off one day to die for something they already possess, only to lose it.

Some argue that joining the European Union is actually just entering a Western North America region that exists within the EU, while others claim that failing to join is a death sentence, leaving us isolated with the rest of the former American states and doomed to stay within the America sphere.

So, be the smart one here. Tell me what looks likely. Where are we headed? Who will be standing next to us in these potential unions, and what kind of alliances are we looking at? etc., etc., etc.

I agree.
By the way... personally, I am not afraid of some new America or "American" in the form of the old regime.
What I fear is this integration of institutions and the liberalization of everything with the other former American states (and no, I am not talking about market liberalization or trade exchange) acting as a precursor to a mini "Western North America EU" headquartered in Mexico City.
In this scenario, every member of this Western North American EU would still have its own flag, anthem, representation, currency, etc., but certain regulations passed by "joint institutions" would be absolute and binding for everyone!
Then, in a devious and perfectly legal manner, America would once again become a colony and a hostage to the rest of the America, while the Mexicans would (and I have no doubt about this) exploit this new situation—just like they did with communism—to achieve their imperial goals in every sense of the word.

Give me a break. How much worse can things actually get from here? Sure, things could always improve, but looking at how unsustainable the US is right now, I’m not holding my breath for some grand reunification into a new USA. Not that I’d be against it, mind you—honestly, Washington, D.C. never did us dirty quite as much as our own people have.👎