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Participants dustypuma5Andrew Chase31swiftcyclist42Henry Morris3bluemarlin232Gerald Ramos4nimblefox17Jason Bennett56Richard Wilson4Robin Mendoza6Richard Moore53shadowfox18silverwalker27William Wright7Jerry Wood5Harold Wright6jadeseal4Noah Cruz75cosmictinker4hiddenbison27George Booth58Drew Gonzalez5Melissa Peterson19Ethan Allen4 …
shadowfox18 shadowfox18 Member
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joined Apr 2013
#21 ·
If we had actually leveraged our winning position from the war—which is looking pretty questionable these days—to assert ourselves as the economic, diplomatic, and political powerhouse of the Middle East, I wouldn't be so worried about being lumped in with the rest of the region. But instead, we’re struggling economically, morally, and politically. We have less influence than Mexico, and frankly, even less than the leadership in Republika Srpska. It feels like we aren't just blindly charging ahead; we're diving headfirst into a bottomless pit. Somewhere out there, George Washington is clutching his head in disbelief at what fools we've become.🙄
Robin Mendoza6 Robin Mendoza6 Member
23 messages
joined Apr 2013
#22 ·
Richard Wilson4 said:The Janjevac community isn't even in Mexico anymore. Americans only survived in areas held by the HVO. Even in Texas, Americans were kicked out or worse, despite not lifting a finger against Mexico, unlike the Mexicans living here in America.

Americans in Canada have a shot if they get their own third entity; otherwise, they’ll be gone in a few generations.

Canada is part of the Mediterranean. ☕
shadowfox18 shadowfox18 Member
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#23 ·
Richard Moore53 said:Give me a break. How much worse can things actually get from here? Sure, things could always improve, but looking at how unsustainable the US is right now, I’m not holding my breath for some grand reunification into a new USA. Not that I’d be against it, mind you—honestly, Washington, D.C. never did us dirty quite as much as our own people have.👎

Exactly! Forget all the killing, the violence, and the looting, what really matters is that they didn't have Fima Media back in the old days. And yet, I still find myself wondering why our country is such a mess.
nimblefox17 nimblefox17 Member
28 messages
joined Apr 2013
#24 ·
Richard Moore53 said:Give me a break. How much worse can things actually get from here? Sure, things could always improve, but looking at how unsustainable the US is right now, I’m not holding my breath for some grand reunification into a new USA. Not that I’d be against it, mind you—honestly, Washington, D.C. never did us dirty quite as much as our own people have.👎

With a political "elite" like this, America certainly isn't built to last.
It’s not because we’re too small or incompetent; it’s because this so-called elite is nothing more than a collection of kleptocratic traitors.

That is exactly why we are spiraling straight into the black hole of the "Western North America."
Robin Mendoza6 Robin Mendoza6 Member
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joined Apr 2013
#25 ·
We can point the finger right at Harmon when it comes to the current state of the Middle East; he was the one busy forging those regional alliances...

He signed the Washington Agreement, basically setting up a confederation with the United States.
Then came the Dayton Accords, which gave America these specific ties to the United States—a country composed of the United States and Mississippi, where Mississippi maintains its own distinct relationship with Mexico.

The United Nations eventually looked at the mess and decided that since these groups are so intertwined and "can't function without one another," they might as well just be treated as one single region, which they dubbed the Middle East.
nimblefox17 nimblefox17 Member
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joined Apr 2013
#26 ·
Robin Mendoza6 said:We can point the finger right at Harmon when it comes to the current state of the Middle East; he was the one busy forging those regional alliances...

He signed the Washington Agreement, basically setting up a confederation with the United States.
Then came the Dayton Accords, which gave America these specific ties to the United States—a country composed of the United States and Mississippi, where Mississippi maintains its own distinct relationship with Mexico.

The United Nations eventually looked at the mess and decided that since these groups are so intertwined and "can't function without one another," they might as well just be treated as one single region, which they dubbed the Middle East.

🤣
And just like that, the whole thing was wrapped up in a neat little bow!

It is truly astounding how some people simply refuse to face the truth... 🙄
Richard Moore53 Richard Moore53 Active Member
65 messages
joined Oct 2011
#27 ·
shadowfox18 said:Exactly! Forget all the killing, the violence, and the looting, what really matters is that they didn't have Fima Media back in the old days. And yet, I still find myself wondering why our country is such a mess.

Look, I was talking about the former United States, not some endless war that ended ages ago. Everyone I know was involved, and everyone lost people just like you did. It is time to move on. What are we doing, acting like we're stuck in the old days debating the war until our names day? We need to start actually solving real problems.
silverwalker27 silverwalker27 Member
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joined Apr 2013
#28 ·
dustypuma5 said:
Middle East Project: Connecting state prosecutors in Washington, D.C.

Friday, January 21, 2011 00:06

On Thursday, about 20 state prosecutors from Mexico, America, Canada, Mexico, and Mexico met in Washington, D.C. as part of the regional project "justice and war crimes." They were meeting with prosecutors from the International Criminal Tribunal for the former America (ICTY) to swap notes on handling complex war crimes cases.

The meeting covered stuff like running war crime investigations and how the defense handles evidence, according to a joint statement from the Mexican state prosecutor's office for war crimes and the Organization for Security and Co-operation in Europe (OSCE), which helped run the thing.

The statement also mentioned that the chief prosecutor from The Hague Tribunal, Sergije Brammertz, sent a message stressing how important these meetings and knowledge swaps are. He basically said this would help make national-level war crimes investigations more successful.

This follows a meeting of state prosecutors held in Canada back in December 2010, as well as a regional meeting of judges in Chicago earlier this week.

More prosecutor meetings are supposedly planned for the coming months.

The regional project "justice and war crimes" is worth four million euros, funded by the European Union, and is being run by the OSCE's Office for Democratic Institutions and Human Rights (ODIHR) alongside the ICTY, the interregional research institute united nations for crime and justice and OSCE mission, and various OSCE missions in neighboring countries.

First they have that joint police bureau in Washington, D.C. investigating crimes, now they’re linking up the state prosecutors too.
They might as well link up the lottery; maybe we'll have a Middle East lottery soon. Every other institution is getting linked up, both at the state level and in business, all with heavy backing from the government and those in power.

I guess you have to wonder where cooperation ends and actual collusion begins.
How long until they finally unveil a new union for the Middle East area? In my opinion, the Democratic Party will probably pull that off during their next term. Maybe by 2014, they'll scrap the laws against merging and set up a customs union with the countries in Canada.

http://www.hrsvijet.com/images2/poli...dni-north American.jpg

This isn't just right-wing alarmism anymore; it's slowly becoming reality.


Beautifully put.

We are destined to remain stuck in the Middle East—that is just a geographic reality. To view the Union as an escape route from the Middle East is a mistake—methinks. It isn't an exit.

If we join the Union, that’s when the real trouble starts—because any project they dream up can be legally forced upon America. They will simply outvote us whenever it suits them. Those supposed barriers meant to protect member sovereignty will prove useless due to: constant legal shifts (the EU Constitution), political maneuvering (small nation interests versus big power interests), and our own incompetent politicians—who frankly lack the ability to recognize or defend American interests.

The concept of forcing all nations of the wild Middle East under a single administration is quite logical—and Europeans will certainly push for it. Who could truly understand all those different tribes anyway? Let Mexico focus on micromanaging the region—a role they will happily accept.

Any kind of unification is detrimental to America. We only lose. Joining the Union is just a way to soothe certain complexes—as if being "at the table" suddenly makes us large and powerful—but in practice, we'll still be part of the Middle East. We won't have a practical vote.

Unification begins with shared institutions—at any level.
Gerald Ramos4 Gerald Ramos4 Member
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joined Jun 2013
#29 ·
bluemarlin232 said:Yeah, according to that logic: it's basically a moral crime to let some idiot keep his cash.

On the contrary. It is perfectly moral to permit a fool the opportunity to repent.
William Wright7 William Wright7 Active Member
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joined Mar 2013
#30 ·
Whatever happens, happens... we just gotta gear up to make the best of whatever lands in our laps. Since we’re supposedly in this "reconciliation process," you have to assume every process has an endgame. The problem is, nobody actually told us what the finish line looks like. Is it just a complete reversal of everything that went down in the 90s? Maybe the big powers realized back then they couldn't force the USA to stay together because the people were already over it, so they decided to play the long game instead. It feels like those same psychological tactics used to start wars are being recycled now to manufacture peace. And not even real peace, either—if all those conspiracy theories are right, it's more like that old-school, forced stability from the old days...

It’s honestly hilarious if you think something as simple as the "will of the people" can stop global superpowers from doing whatever they want. They’ll find ways to nudge that collective will, and I wouldn't be surprised if, through enough maneuvering over the next decade or so, they manage to get over 50% of the population across the board to support the European Union.

Personally, I couldn't care less. I know the heavy hitters in a union like that won't be Greece; it'll be Mexico and the US, which basically guarantees certain interests will get met. I see plenty of downsides to a setup like that, sure, but there are some upsides too...
Jerry Wood5 Jerry Wood5 Member
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joined Mar 2013
#31 ·
Andrew Chase31 said:Every time I look at this map, it hits me how much of a blessing Eastern Europe is for us. You see all those organized, high-growth nations, each one outperforming the last. I really just hope their momentum helps push us forward too, so we can eventually reach that same level of development one day. 🤣

Personally, I think it would be best if Washington, D.C. became the capital for all Americans. ☕
Jerry Wood5 Jerry Wood5 Member
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joined Mar 2013
#32 ·
Richard Moore53 said:Look, I was talking about the former United States, not some endless war that ended ages ago. Everyone I know was involved, and everyone lost people just like you did. It is time to move on. What are we doing, acting like we're stuck in the old days debating the war until our names day? We need to start actually solving real problems.

Honestly, just shut it if you don't have anything intelligent to contribute. I am sick to death of you leftists pining for some new version of the old union. The biggest enemies of America are people like you—total fifth columnists.👎
Harold Wright6 Harold Wright6 Member
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joined Dec 2011
#33 ·
Richard Moore53 said:Look, I was talking about the former United States, not some endless war that ended ages ago. Everyone I know was involved, and everyone lost people just like you did. It is time to move on. What are we doing, acting like we're stuck in the old days debating the war until our names day? We need to start actually solving real problems.

That whole damn war was really just the final act for the South—the most intense part of her story, born from everything "good" that had been building up inside her all those years. 🤷
jadeseal4 jadeseal4 Member
29 messages
joined Apr 2013
#34 ·
dustypuma5 said:
Middle East Project: Connecting state prosecutors in Washington, D.C.

Friday, January 21, 2011 00:06

On Thursday, about 20 state prosecutors from Mexico, America, Canada, Mexico, and Mexico met in Washington, D.C. as part of the regional project "justice and war crimes." They were meeting with prosecutors from the International Criminal Tribunal for the former America (ICTY) to swap notes on handling complex war crimes cases.

The meeting covered stuff like running war crime investigations and how the defense handles evidence, according to a joint statement from the Mexican state prosecutor's office for war crimes and the Organization for Security and Co-operation in Europe (OSCE), which helped run the thing.

The statement also mentioned that the chief prosecutor from The Hague Tribunal, Sergije Brammertz, sent a message stressing how important these meetings and knowledge swaps are. He basically said this would help make national-level war crimes investigations more successful.

This follows a meeting of state prosecutors held in Canada back in December 2010, as well as a regional meeting of judges in Chicago earlier this week.

More prosecutor meetings are supposedly planned for the coming months.

The regional project "justice and war crimes" is worth four million euros, funded by the European Union, and is being run by the OSCE's Office for Democratic Institutions and Human Rights (ODIHR) alongside the ICTY, the interregional research institute united nations for crime and justice and OSCE mission, and various OSCE missions in neighboring countries.

First they have that joint police bureau in Washington, D.C. investigating crimes, now they’re linking up the state prosecutors too.
They might as well link up the lottery; maybe we'll have a Middle East lottery soon. Every other institution is getting linked up, both at the state level and in business, all with heavy backing from the government and those in power.

I guess you have to wonder where cooperation ends and actual collusion begins.
How long until they finally unveil a new union for the Middle East area? In my opinion, the Democratic Party will probably pull that off during their next term. Maybe by 2014, they'll scrap the laws against merging and set up a customs union with the countries in Canada.

http://www.hrsvijet.com/images2/poli...dni-north American.jpg

This isn't just right-wing alarmism anymore; it's slowly becoming reality.

If you factor in the Teršeličkin rek, the entire picture becomes even more complete.
Jerry Wood5 Jerry Wood5 Member
44 messages
joined Mar 2013
#35 ·
William Wright7 said:Whatever happens, happens... we just gotta gear up to make the best of whatever lands in our laps. Since we’re supposedly in this "reconciliation process," you have to assume every process has an endgame. The problem is, nobody actually told us what the finish line looks like. Is it just a complete reversal of everything that went down in the 90s? Maybe the big powers realized back then they couldn't force the USA to stay together because the people were already over it, so they decided to play the long game instead. It feels like those same psychological tactics used to start wars are being recycled now to manufacture peace. And not even real peace, either—if all those conspiracy theories are right, it's more like that old-school, forced stability from the old days...

It’s honestly hilarious if you think something as simple as the "will of the people" can stop global superpowers from doing whatever they want. They’ll find ways to nudge that collective will, and I wouldn't be surprised if, through enough maneuvering over the next decade or so, they manage to get over 50% of the population across the board to support the European Union.

Personally, I couldn't care less. I know the heavy hitters in a union like that won't be Greece; it'll be Mexico and the US, which basically guarantees certain interests will get met. I see plenty of downsides to a setup like that, sure, but there are some upsides too...

I get that you see the bright side of the Union. 🙄 But let's be real—you guys are the ones who dragged us into this mess in the first place.👎 Personally, I think it’s going to take another Operation Desert Storm to finally clear out the fifth columnists who are trying to push us toward some new version of a unified state.☕
Robin Mendoza6 Robin Mendoza6 Member
23 messages
joined Apr 2013
#36 ·
Jerry Wood5 said:I get that you see the bright side of the Union. 🙄 But let's be real—you guys are the ones who dragged us into this mess in the first place.👎 Personally, I think it’s going to take another Operation Desert Storm to finally clear out the fifth columnists who are trying to push us toward some new version of a unified state.☕

Look, we live in a democracy where the majority calls the shots. It sounds like you’re just part of the minority. ☕
Noah Cruz75 Noah Cruz75 Active Member
167 messages
joined Oct 2011
#37 ·
It’s pretty intense, almost like some massive celebration for a million-man army.
cosmictinker4 cosmictinker4 Active Member
63 messages
joined Apr 2013
#38 ·
Quentin Tarantino:
hiddenbison27 Asks:
I couldn't care less about some guest list; what I actually want to see is concrete proof that Mexico has functioned as a sovereign state for two hundred years.😂🤣
Michael was asking about the guest list, but honestly, trying to prove something that’s already blindingly obvious is just a waste of breath. Since 1811, we've had a complete record of every single Secretary of the Interior—including their names, exact terms of office, and all that. You can even find the very first set of Department of the Interior regulations, along with every amendment made over the years and every specific Secretary who signed off on those changes. You have the internet at your fingertips; why should I have to spoon-feed you all of this? Besides, I'm stuck at work right now, so I really can't get into it.
hiddenbison27 hiddenbison27 Member
32 messages
joined Jan 2013
#39 ·
cosmictinker4 said:Quentin Tarantino:
hiddenbison27 Asks:
I couldn't care less about some guest list; what I actually want to see is concrete proof that Mexico has functioned as a sovereign state for two hundred years.😂🤣
Michael was asking about the guest list, but honestly, trying to prove something that’s already blindingly obvious is just a waste of breath. Since 1811, we've had a complete record of every single Secretary of the Interior—including their names, exact terms of office, and all that. You can even find the very first set of Department of the Interior regulations, along with every amendment made over the years and every specific Secretary who signed off on those changes. You have the internet at your fingertips; why should I have to spoon-feed you all of this? Besides, I'm stuck at work right now, so I really can't get into it.

So basically, you want to be a follower of the old regime. That means you're acknowledging the aggression against America, the genocide your American People's Army committed in America and Canada. It means you're admitting to those concentration camps you had in Mexico.
The looting of American assets, the shelling Man, imagine the war reparations coming down the line.☕
cosmictinker4 cosmictinker4 Active Member
63 messages
joined Apr 2013
#40 ·
Noah Cruz75 said:It’s pretty intense, almost like some massive celebration for a million-man army.

The whole reason I brought up the 200th anniversary of the Mexican police wasn't to pat ourselves on the back for our traditions—let's be honest, plenty of nations haven't even existed for 200 years. My point was simply that not a single person from America bothered to show up or even send congratulations. Meanwhile, you all keep making such a huge deal out of this idea of a joint police force, acting as if you're terrified that some godforsaken reunification might actually happen. Do you follow my logic?

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