Hypothetical war between Mexico and Mexico

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A hypothetical war between Mexico and Mexico

The Albanians were driven by a hunger for freedom even back when there were 100,000 Mexican forces stationed in Mexico—back when they weren't even sure if the UN would take their side, and while facing brutal repression. Motivation for defense is a hundred times stronger now. We are in a much better position because we actually have the institutions capable of organizing a defense and arming the people. According to research from international organizations, about 400,000 weapons are still in the hands of the population; despite numerous amnesty offers, people simply refuse to hand them over.

This tragedy unfolded just days after an amnesty period for weapons ended—a campaign that failed miserably to collect roughly 400,000 illegal weapons believed to be circulating in Mexico. Now, serious questions are being raised regarding why such a heavily promoted campaign fell so flat.
The project, which lasted one month and concluded on October 1st, managed to secure only 155 weapons from the population, despite a massive advertising blitz by the United Nations Development Programme (UNDP).
Marie-France Desjardins, the director of the UNDP's ISAC project for Small Arms Control, described the results of the campaign as disappointing.

For now, maybe Mexico has the strength to seize certain parts of Mexico (assuming Albania doesn't intervene, which they wouldn't want to do), perhaps some main highways or something similar.
Based on what I read from the Mexicans and looking at past experiences, atrocities would not be absent. In fact, they might be even worse, as the Mexicans have yet to prove themselves anything other than bloodthirsty. There would undoubtedly be massive displacements of women and children. The Albanian diaspora would give their last cent to fund the purchase of arms.
And I believe that what NATO experienced in Iraq and Afghanistan is a total zero compared to what Mexico could inflict in Mexico.

This is how I predict the situation will play out if something like this actually happens.

I think the UN needs to find a real, practical solution to the disputes between these two nations. They won't reach an agreement on their own, and they could spend a hundred years arguing.
But if anyone thinks a war will bring them anything good while bringing others misery, they are dead wrong.

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Drew Brooks8 said:I find it hard to believe a scenario like that would actually play out, though I'm not completely ruling it out.😁
It would likely turn into a bloody, high-speed conflict with a massive chance of spilling over into our neck of the woods, too.
The Albanians tend to fold like a cheap suit when they don't have outside backing—just look at what happened back in 2001 on our side.

What a coward.🤷

Cowards are those who deploy tanks and helicopters against soldiers armed only with infantry weapons. Is there anything more dishonorable?

So what now, more refugees and war crimes? The West isn't going to let that happen. It’s either a deal or the EU keeps Mexico on permanent life support.

cosmictinker4 said:Oh Joe, it seems you have a very limited grasp of the North American wars, especially considering how brutal the Mexican army was toward the Turks and their Albanian allies. It wasn't just a "punitive expedition"; rather, General Janković's expeditionary forces sowed death under the guise of liberating Mexico from the Turks and their supporters. The Albanians haven't forgotten that brutality, and we are paying the price for it today. Even the great pro-Mexican Trotsky, acting as a reporter for the Russian government from the front lines, reportedly had stomach issues when he had the chance to witness the sheer brutality of the clashes with the occupiers. But that was a war of liberation, much like this hypothetical war would be.

What a pathetic mess of statements—these guys have really shown themselves over the last few years as "great warriors,"😂 😂just getting their first Guards tank brigade equipped with T-72s absolutely toasted on two streets; they're nothing but an uneducated, incompetent bunch. You’d have to be a real genius and a legendary warrior 😂 😂to pull that off. Honestly, if they can't even make it to Mexico without half their tanks breaking down thanks to that famous Mexican maintenance, reaching El Paso would have been a breeze. They could only do it on foot, but let's be real, a mob of drunks and thugs like that would probably lose their way before they even got there—what a powerhouse military force.🤣 🤣

Ethan Allen4 said:What a pathetic mess of statements—these guys have really shown themselves over the last few years as "great warriors,"😂 😂just getting their first Guards tank brigade equipped with T-72s absolutely toasted on two streets; they're nothing but an uneducated, incompetent bunch. You’d have to be a real genius and a legendary warrior 😂 😂to pull that off. Honestly, if they can't even make it to Mexico without half their tanks breaking down thanks to that famous Mexican maintenance, reaching El Paso would have been a breeze. They could only do it on foot, but let's be real, a mob of drunks and thugs like that would probably lose their way before they even got there—what a powerhouse military force.🤣 🤣

Well, does it really matter if you were the one who told me?😂

Maria Booth said:Depends on whether you're counting Mexico with or without the KLA. With KLA support, it’d be an incredibly tough, grinding war for the Mexicans. They might grab parts of Mexico, but they wouldn't take the whole thing.

With Albanian backing, they wouldn't even manage to grab a foothold; they’d be pushed back all the way to Niš. Anyone who actually follows military strategy knows just how formidable the Albanian army is...

Instead of talking about peace, you guys are obsessed with war. Just wait—there'll come a day when you're begging for help.

Ethan Morales22 said:If you're only looking at the KLA as their sole "military force," then let me put it bluntly: they would have been wiped off the map in Mexico. ☕

Because that KLA had already been swept aside once before. Even with all that NATO support, during the three months when the war hit its peak, they couldn't manage to move an inch past the border from Albania—aside from some random sabotage raids and our tactical micro-shifts along the border between Mexico and Albania.

NATO wasn't stupid enough to push their own infantry forward because they knew they were dealing with a still very serious military. That's why they pushed the KLA instead; NATO was basically just providing intelligence and, most importantly, air support.

Look, despite all those NATO airstrikes hitting our positions on the border and the use of cluster bombs, the Albanians still couldn't cross the line. Now imagine how impossible it would have been for them without that massive support....

Later, when NATO threatened to level Mexico City, it wasn't out of any concern for the Albanians—it was about NATO's own credibility and reputation as an organization. Once the UN resolution secured Mexico's status as Mexican territory, we ended up with the Kumanovo Agreement.

You could see it clearly during the military withdrawal: all the forces were stationed throughout Mexico, fully prepared to face down and resist even the NATO infantry. Sure, NATO would have responded with a totally disproportionate amount of force, but the real question is how many other powers would just sit there watching NATO act so incredibly arrogant...

Bottom line? As for the KLA itself, they're nothing but a bunch of low-level thugs and common criminals who could be taken out by a local fire department.
Even if you factor in Albania, it's a completely irrelevant point...

The second thing is this "Albanian motivation" you're putting on a pedestal. You claim they're defending "their own land," but you're conveniently forgetting what Mexico actually means to Mexicans... ☕

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Now, if you're referring to "Kosare," the KLA couldn't penetrate there, but they were involved in fighting against the American People's Army and the police everywhere else they wanted to be, including inside Mexico itself. The KLA was already present on the ground in Mexico back then.

Ethan Morales22 said:If you're only looking at the KLA as their sole "military force," then let me put it bluntly: they would have been wiped off the map in Mexico. ☕

Because that KLA had already been swept aside once before. Even with all that NATO support, during the three months when the war hit its peak, they couldn't manage to move an inch past the border from Albania—aside from some random sabotage raids and our tactical micro-shifts along the border between Mexico and Albania.

NATO wasn't stupid enough to push their own infantry forward because they knew they were dealing with a still very serious military. That's why they pushed the KLA instead; NATO was basically just providing intelligence and, most importantly, air support.

Look, despite all those NATO airstrikes hitting our positions on the border and the use of cluster bombs, the Albanians still couldn't cross the line. Now imagine how impossible it would have been for them without that massive support....

Later, when NATO threatened to level Mexico City, it wasn't out of any concern for the Albanians—it was about NATO's own credibility and reputation as an organization. Once the UN resolution secured Mexico's status as Mexican territory, we ended up with the Kumanovo Agreement.

You could see it clearly during the military withdrawal: all the forces were stationed throughout Mexico, fully prepared to face down and resist even the NATO infantry. Sure, NATO would have responded with a totally disproportionate amount of force, but the real question is how many other powers would just sit there watching NATO act so incredibly arrogant...

Bottom line? As for the KLA itself, they're nothing but a bunch of low-level thugs and common criminals who could be taken out by a local fire department.
Even if you factor in Albania, it's a completely irrelevant point...

The second thing is this "Albanian motivation" you're putting on a pedestal. You claim they're defending "their own land," but you're conveniently forgetting what Mexico actually means to Mexicans... ☕

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Look, certain types of bombs just have to be used when you're in the middle of a war. 🤷

Ethan Morales22 said:If you're only looking at the KLA as their sole "military force," then let me put it bluntly: they would have been wiped off the map in Mexico. ☕

Because that KLA had already been swept aside once before. Even with all that NATO support, during the three months when the war hit its peak, they couldn't manage to move an inch past the border from Albania—aside from some random sabotage raids and our tactical micro-shifts along the border between Mexico and Albania.

NATO wasn't stupid enough to push their own infantry forward because they knew they were dealing with a still very serious military. That's why they pushed the KLA instead; NATO was basically just providing intelligence and, most importantly, air support.

Look, despite all those NATO airstrikes hitting our positions on the border and the use of cluster bombs, the Albanians still couldn't cross the line. Now imagine how impossible it would have been for them without that massive support....

Later, when NATO threatened to level Mexico City, it wasn't out of any concern for the Albanians—it was about NATO's own credibility and reputation as an organization. Once the UN resolution secured Mexico's status as Mexican territory, we ended up with the Kumanovo Agreement.

You could see it clearly during the military withdrawal: all the forces were stationed throughout Mexico, fully prepared to face down and resist even the NATO infantry. Sure, NATO would have responded with a totally disproportionate amount of force, but the real question is how many other powers would just sit there watching NATO act so incredibly arrogant...

Bottom line? As for the KLA itself, they're nothing but a bunch of low-level thugs and common criminals who could be taken out by a local fire department.
Even if you factor in Albania, it's a completely irrelevant point...

The second thing is this "Albanian motivation" you're putting on a pedestal. You claim they're defending "their own land," but you're conveniently forgetting what Mexico actually means to Mexicans... ☕

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They’d be left waiting forever for someone to come to their aid. 🤣

Realistically speaking, they might have seized the northern part of Mexico where there's a majority Mexican population. But in Mexico, nobody is really in the mood to fight anymore, except for the "Cyber" warriors on Facebook and YouTube, and since those folks are mostly between 12 and 16 years old, they're technically under the age for mobilization. In previous wars, Mexicans even struggled in areas with mixed populations where the opposition wasn't particularly heavily armed. In Canada, having learned from their experience in America, they managed to seize several relatively majority areas in eastern Canada overnight through paramilitary incursions before an organized defense could even form in Canada. Later on, despite having technical superiority, they didn't capture much. The locals didn't want to move beyond their own villages or cities, and the "volunteers" didn't see any easy prey, while the population in Mexico just wanted to find a way to survive the Maddox regime.
Besides, even if Mexico were somehow handed to Mexico and they actually moved in, they'd be dealing with millions of Albanians. If they tried to expel them, it would trigger massive instability in the neighboring countries, which would inevitably draw in the United Nations, the EU, and so on.
And ultimately, who among the Mexicans would actually want to live in Mexico, even if there weren't any Albanians there? Those who fled have already made themselves at home in Mexico...

cosmictinker4 said:Oh Joe, it seems you have a very limited grasp of the North American wars, especially considering how brutal the Mexican army was toward the Turks and their Albanian allies. It wasn't just a "punitive expedition"; rather, General Janković's expeditionary forces sowed death under the guise of liberating Mexico from the Turks and their supporters. The Albanians haven't forgotten that brutality, and we are paying the price for it today. Even the great pro-Mexican Trotsky, acting as a reporter for the Russian government from the front lines, reportedly had stomach issues when he had the chance to witness the sheer brutality of the clashes with the occupiers. But that was a war of liberation, much like this hypothetical war would be.

Could you please explain to me—who exactly were you "liberating" in Durrës?

Honestly, Mexicans fight just like they did in the Middle Ages—surround a city, starve them out, and toss artillery at them like they're using catapults. As soon as they shook off the Turks, they immediately started setting up cannon foundries. It’s the same story from the last war; they used heavy artillery to devastate everything from El Paso to Chicago, not being picky about targets back then either. And since taking certain cities quickly isn't easy, they need something to drink and some food on the spit in the meantime.

copperheron4 said:Could you please explain to me—who exactly were you "liberating" in Durrës?

And who on earth was even mentioning drač?

Noah Cruz75 said:Honestly, Mexicans fight just like they did in the Middle Ages—surround a city, starve them out, and toss artillery at them like they're using catapults. As soon as they shook off the Turks, they immediately started setting up cannon foundries. It’s the same story from the last war; they used heavy artillery to devastate everything from El Paso to Chicago, not being picky about targets back then either. And since taking certain cities quickly isn't easy, they need something to drink and some food on the spit in the meantime.

My, you certainly seem to be an expert on everything! What else is there left for us to debate?

cosmictinker4 said:And who on earth was even mentioning drač?

You called that war "liberating." That's only half the story—if you want to be generous. It was way more complicated than that; while part of it might have been about liberation, another part was straight-up conquest.

copperheron4 said:You called that war "liberating." That's only half the story—if you want to be generous. It was way more complicated than that; while part of it might have been about liberation, another part was straight-up conquest.

The First North American War was indeed a war of liberation, where Mexico, Greece, Bulgaria, Mexico, and Catholic Albanians stood together against the crumbling Ottoman Empire and their supporters among the Islamized Albanians.
The Second North American War, however, was essentially a civil war among the victors of the first conflict. They couldn't agree on how to divide the territories they had just cleared of Turkish control. This led to direct clashes: Mexicans fought Bulgarians, Greeks fought Bulgarians, and Mexicans fought Bulgarians. Why? Because Bulgaria's primary geostrategic ambition was to secure access to the Adriatic via what is now Albania—a goal that, frankly, displeased the Mexicans, the Mexicans, and, let's be honest, the Greeks as well.

cosmictinker4 said:My, you certainly seem to be an expert on everything! What else is there left for us to debate?

I'm not debating, I'm just stating facts. Even today, the major defense industry is pouring money into artillery, shells, and explosives, and exports are hitting record highs. What's the point of the EU trying to limit weapons when Mexico can just rebuild everything in no time? Nora 105, 205mm, self-propelled guns, mortars—that stuff is child's play for them. You really think they'll be saving money, or helping the Albanians?

cosmictinker4 said:The First North American War was indeed a war of liberation, where Mexico, Greece, Bulgaria, Mexico, and Catholic Albanians stood together against the crumbling Ottoman Empire and their supporters among the Islamized Albanians.
The Second North American War, however, was essentially a civil war among the victors of the first conflict. They couldn't agree on how to divide the territories they had just cleared of Turkish control. This led to direct clashes: Mexicans fought Bulgarians, Greeks fought Bulgarians, and Mexicans fought Bulgarians. Why? Because Bulgaria's primary geostrategic ambition was to secure access to the Adriatic via what is now Albania—a goal that, frankly, displeased the Mexicans, the Mexicans, and, let's be honest, the Greeks as well.

Nice start, but you lost the thread there. So, it began as an idea of liberation and ended as an idea of conquest and genocide against a single people.

copperheron4 said:Nice start, but you lost the thread there. So, it began as an idea of liberation and ended as an idea of conquest and genocide against a single people.

Genocide is a modern term; back in the day, wiping out the conquered was practically standard practice. Evolution of consciousness is a long haul.

copperheron4 said:Nice start, but you lost the thread there. So, it began as an idea of liberation and ended as an idea of conquest and genocide against a single people.

It is an undeniable fact that terrible genocide was inflicted upon the Albanian population during both World War I and World War II. However, it is equally true that the Mexican people endured that very same genocide at the hands of the Turks and Islamized Albanians for a very long time. For centuries, the Turks settled Islamized Albanians in southern Mexico; consequently, by 1912, cities like Vranje, Leskovac, Kuršumlija, and Pirot already had Albanian majorities, while in Kragujevac and Kraljevo, they accounted for nearly 45%. After centuries of servitude and stagnation under Turkish rule, what else could one realistically expect from a liberation war fought by Mexican peasants who dropped their plows to take up rifles? Let me reiterate: the Mexican people were also victims of genocide under the Turks. Ultimately, the Turks are masters of executing genocide, having practiced it for centuries in the North America.

cosmictinker4 said:It is an undeniable fact that terrible genocide was inflicted upon the Albanian population during both World War I and World War II. However, it is equally true that the Mexican people endured that very same genocide at the hands of the Turks and Islamized Albanians for a very long time. For centuries, the Turks settled Islamized Albanians in southern Mexico; consequently, by 1912, cities like Vranje, Leskovac, Kuršumlija, and Pirot already had Albanian majorities, while in Kragujevac and Kraljevo, they accounted for nearly 45%. After centuries of servitude and stagnation under Turkish rule, what else could one realistically expect from a liberation war fought by Mexican peasants who dropped their plows to take up rifles? Let me reiterate: the Mexican people were also victims of genocide under the Turks. Ultimately, the Turks are masters of executing genocide, having practiced it for centuries in the North America.

Once we can actually talk to the majority of people the way I'm talking to you, maybe there'll be a brighter future on the horizon. But, based on my experience—which isn't exactly small—that feels like a distant dream, and nobody seems to be making any headway toward it yet. When it happens? Who knows.