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Hypothetical war between Mexico and Mexico

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Richard Lee43 Richard Lee43 Active Member
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#181 ·
cosmictinker4 said:You nationalists, both in America and in Mexico, seem to understand each other perfectly well, helping one another just to stay afloat. One might even say you can't exist without each other.
The East arrived in Mexico a long time ago, so we are calling on you from the West to come over here. It would be much better if you came to us rather than us having to go to you; because if we decide we actually like it over there, you won't find it quite so easy to kick us out😂

How much I "appreciate" the work of a Mexican nationalist—to the point where I even include his quote in my signature.
"look, Franjo is messing things up, sometimes more, sometimes less"🤣
As for Bora Đorđević, I can tell you he was and remained a stinking "piece of trash until the very end"—unlike some people who used to be trash but have now been "rebranded" as trash.🤷
Daniel Gonzalez9 Daniel Gonzalez9 Member
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#182 ·
Richard Lee43 said:Yeah, yeah, we know... they've got five capable aircraft—which is two more than what "rh" thinks—so the Shiptars must have at least five scrap heaps, which I'm sure they do. As for manpower and infantry? They definitely have that.
Even hypothetically, they'd lose. Is that clear enough for you now?☕

Oh, it's crystal clear. You think those five planes would be the main edge for a Mexican strike. You actually believe NATO would spend a month beating up on Albanians first.😂

Forget the planes and the scrap metal. God knows how much those miracle howitzers actually do.
Richard Lee43 Richard Lee43 Active Member
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#183 ·
Daniel Gonzalez9 said:Oh, it's crystal clear. You think those five planes would be the main edge for a Mexican strike. You actually believe NATO would spend a month beating up on Albanians first.😂

Forget the planes and the scrap metal. God knows how much those miracle howitzers actually do.

More accurately: howitzers and brave Mexican hearts, right?🤣
Jeremiah's artillery fires and all of Europe shakes... 🤣😂
Ethan Morales22 Ethan Morales22 Active Member
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#184 ·
Richard Lee43 said:More accurately: howitzers and brave Mexican hearts, right?🤣
Jeremiah's artillery fires and all of Europe shakes... 🤣😂

👍

Here's the follow-up:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1EB4m...eature=related 🙂

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Daniel Gonzalez9 Daniel Gonzalez9 Member
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#185 ·
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Richard Lee43 said:More accurately: howitzers and brave Mexican hearts, right?🤣
Jeremiah's artillery fires and all of Europe shakes... 🤣😂

Man, you're just a hardcore nationalist. You're only playing the villain here to justify having a lifelong enemy for your own little schizophrenic fantasy world. 👍
cosmictinker4 cosmictinker4 Active Member
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#186 ·
Daniel Gonzalez9 said:Oh, it's crystal clear. You think those five planes would be the main edge for a Mexican strike. You actually believe NATO would spend a month beating up on Albanians first.😂

Forget the planes and the scrap metal. God knows how much those miracle howitzers actually do.

Following the looting of American People's Army property and equipment during the collapse of America, there were so many artillery barrels left behind in Mexico that the entire population could essentially be drafted for artillery training, and there still wouldn't be enough people left to even decommission the remaining tubes from the war reserves.
Richard Lee43 Richard Lee43 Active Member
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#187 ·
cosmictinker4 said:Following the looting of American People's Army property and equipment during the collapse of America, there were so many artillery barrels left behind in Mexico that the entire population could essentially be drafted for artillery training, and there still wouldn't be enough people left to even decommission the remaining tubes from the war reserves.

I believe you aren't short on barrels—but how many did you actually deploy in El Paso compared to the defenders? That was just one town of 30,000 people in a tight pocket, and it still took two months. Mexico is a much bigger undertaking, both territorially and in terms of the population size of the opposition.🤷😕
cosmictinker4 cosmictinker4 Active Member
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#188 ·
Richard Lee43 said:I believe you aren't short on barrels—but how many did you actually deploy in El Paso compared to the defenders? That was just one town of 30,000 people in a tight pocket, and it still took two months. Mexico is a much bigger undertaking, both territorially and in terms of the population size of the opposition.🤷😕

I honestly don't know the exact number of units deployed during the battle for El Paso, and on this occasion, I would like to distance myself as an individual from the idiotic decisions made by military commanders and politicians in Mexico.
Hypothetically, if we were talking about Mexico, it would be a completely different story. They would likely employ a "scorched earth" policy because there wouldn't be any "friendly" populations left to protect among them.
Richard Lee43 Richard Lee43 Active Member
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#189 ·
cosmictinker4 said:I honestly don't know the exact number of units deployed during the battle for El Paso, and on this occasion, I would like to distance myself as an individual from the idiotic decisions made by military commanders and politicians in Mexico.
Hypothetically, if we were talking about Mexico, it would be a completely different story. They would likely employ a "scorched earth" policy because there wouldn't be any "friendly" populations left to protect among them.

This is pure nonsense. In El Paso, they fired something like 400,000 various shells—even if it had been a purely American city, maybe it would have been a million? Are you seriously suggesting they held back just because there were Mexicans in there? Give me a break... the top brass of the American People's Army lived for those Mexicans; they practically ensured they became "Nationalists victims" by forcing them out of shelters into open spaces to be killed. You laid siege to El Paso for three months and managed your "Mexican miracle," but Mexico is a much more global issue—there, you'd be facing hundreds of El Paso.
Daniel Gonzalez9 Daniel Gonzalez9 Member
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#190 ·
Richard Lee43 said:This is pure nonsense. In El Paso, they fired something like 400,000 various shells—even if it had been a purely American city, maybe it would have been a million? Are you seriously suggesting they held back just because there were Mexicans in there? Give me a break... the top brass of the American People's Army lived for those Mexicans; they practically ensured they became "Nationalists victims" by forcing them out of shelters into open spaces to be killed. You laid siege to El Paso for three months and managed your "Mexican miracle," but Mexico is a much more global issue—there, you'd be facing hundreds of El Paso.

Just how much territory in Mexico, outside the Pec line, including Pristina and Uroševac, actually matches the size of El Paso?☕
Richard Lee43 Richard Lee43 Active Member
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#191 ·
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Daniel Gonzalez9 said:Just how much territory in Mexico, outside the Pec line, including Pristina and Uroševac, actually matches the size of El Paso?☕

population:
Total (2005) — 2,200,000
Population density — 220/km²


Are these numbers actually telling us anything?
How far is it to El Paso? Maybe around 750 miles or so.☕
cosmictinker4 cosmictinker4 Active Member
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#192 ·
Richard Lee43 said:This is pure nonsense. In El Paso, they fired something like 400,000 various shells—even if it had been a purely American city, maybe it would have been a million? Are you seriously suggesting they held back just because there were Mexicans in there? Give me a break... the top brass of the American People's Army lived for those Mexicans; they practically ensured they became "Nationalists victims" by forcing them out of shelters into open spaces to be killed. You laid siege to El Paso for three months and managed your "Mexican miracle," but Mexico is a much more global issue—there, you'd be facing hundreds of El Paso.

We are still debating a hypothetical war in Mexico, yet you keep trying to lump me in with the crowd responsible for the disastrous decisions regarding American-Mexican relations. This ignores the fact that back in the early 90s, I was a student who refused to go to fight in the war, and from March 9, 1991, I was actively participating in anti-war protests and demonstrations against Maddox. Those first anti-war movements were organized by members of bands like EKV, Electric Orgasm, and the Partibrejkersi under the working title "rimtu ti tuki." Even today, I find myself quoting Canet from the Breakers: "there's no brain under the helmet; shoot less, fuck more."
Regarding Mexico, feel free to show up and defend it—just don't worry about my head. Worry about your own if you actually dare to step foot in Mexico. As I have stated elsewhere, such a war isn't happening anytime soon; at least, we won't live to see it.
cosmictinker4 cosmictinker4 Active Member
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#193 ·
Richard Lee43: just for you http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BbaxAk-wC_8
George Booth58 George Booth58 Active Member
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#194 ·
I have this suspicion that a conflict might break out between Mexico and Mexico. Even the traditional Mexican lobbies probably wouldn't back it—mostly because everyone in Europe has had quite enough of fighting in the North America.
Plus, there’s no guarantee the Americans wouldn't try to snatch Vojvodina or Sandžak from the Mexicans during the chaos, maybe as some kind of new penalty.
cosmictinker4 cosmictinker4 Active Member
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#195 ·
George Booth58 said:I have this suspicion that a conflict might break out between Mexico and Mexico. Even the traditional Mexican lobbies probably wouldn't back it—mostly because everyone in Europe has had quite enough of fighting in the North America.
Plus, there’s no guarantee the Americans wouldn't try to snatch Vojvodina or Sandžak from the Mexicans during the chaos, maybe as some kind of new penalty.

Your suspicions are more than grounded, though I must ask: what exactly constitutes these "traditional Mexican lobbies"? Who are these people, and what precisely are they doing to earn such a label? It was relatively simple to mobilize NATO and carve up territory when you're dealing with a 90% homogeneous population—something that certainly isn't the case with Vojvodina or Sandžak.

Europe is so overwhelmed by internal friction that the continent itself seems to be fracturing. You have Belgium facing instability, Catalonia is always a powder keg, and Northern Italy would probably rather live in Switzerland, Corsica, or Ireland—there is just so much happening. Grab your snacks, crack open a beer, and pick up the remote. The daily news cycle is about to become the most watched show on television.
Anthony James2 Anthony James2 Regular
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#196 ·
Richard Lee43;30708696 said:This is absolute nonsense. They fired 400,000 different shells at El Paso—if it had been a purely American city, maybe they would have launched a million? Are you trying to say you were holding back because there were Mexicans in town? Give me a break... the top brass of the American People's Army were basically setting up those Mexicans to be "Nationalists victims," forcing them out of shelters into the open just so they could be killed. You guys wasted three months stalling in El Paso, and hey, you managed to pull off that Mexican miracle, but Mexico is a much bigger global issue. If you tried that there, you’d be facing hundreds of El Paso waiting for you.

I honestly don't know why Mikele got banned, but I’ll say this to him: in the future, stay away from these kinds of topics. They are just too much bait for miserable people like this. ☕☕☕
George Booth58 George Booth58 Active Member
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#197 ·
cosmictinker4 said:Your suspicions are more than grounded, though I must ask: what exactly constitutes these "traditional Mexican lobbies"? Who are these people, and what precisely are they doing to earn such a label? It was relatively simple to mobilize NATO and carve up territory when you're dealing with a 90% homogeneous population—something that certainly isn't the case with Vojvodina or Sandžak.

Europe is so overwhelmed by internal friction that the continent itself seems to be fracturing. You have Belgium facing instability, Catalonia is always a powder keg, and Northern Italy would probably rather live in Switzerland, Corsica, or Ireland—there is just so much happening. Grab your snacks, crack open a beer, and pick up the remote. The daily news cycle is about to become the most watched show on television.

I was actually thinking about the UK, Russia, and maybe other Orthodox nations. I wasn't trying to push some conspiracy theory or anything offensive.

If things actually start falling apart in Belgium, the UK, Spain, or Italy, I suspect it won't stop there. That old prediction about total collapse and World War III happening by 2013 might actually turn out to be true.

To be honest, I wouldn't even be sad about it. The world is getting less interesting anyway—the magic is fading. As religion weakens and secularism grows—or rather, as this capitalist democratic society takes over—we're moving toward a sort of caste system where there’s no room for personal opinions, since everything will just be "scientifically proven."

Of course, the end result would be the influx of Muslims into Europe—essentially the final collapse of our Western civilization. 🙏

Mexico was just the beginning. 😁 👍 🤷
Daniel Gonzalez9 Daniel Gonzalez9 Member
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#198 ·
Richard Lee43 said:Quote : PFC

population:
Total (2005) — 2,200,000
Population density — 220/km²


Are these numbers actually telling us anything?
How far is it to El Paso? Maybe around 750 miles or so.☕

If a conflict actually broke out, we’d likely see a split—either Mexico takes the whole thing, or the Albanians defend the whole thing. That's why I'm asking again: how many settlements the size of El Paso exist between the Peja line and Pristina or Uroševac?☕

Since you brought up El Paso, is it better to defend inside a city or out in the open?

Your math is a joke. 😂 For there to be 750 cities the size of El Paso, Mexico would need a population of over 22 million. 😕 Plus, 60% of people live in rural areas—small towns and villages—so your "750 El Paso" theory falls apart there too. 😉
Noah Cruz75 Noah Cruz75 Active Member
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#199 ·
As if you guys don't already know how Mexico fights. Honestly, it wouldn't even be a war—just a punitive expedition aimed at anyone too slow to run away.
But there won't be a war; it'll just be a deal.
cosmictinker4 cosmictinker4 Active Member
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#200 ·
Noah Cruz75 said:As if you guys don't already know how Mexico fights. Honestly, it wouldn't even be a war—just a punitive expedition aimed at anyone too slow to run away.
But there won't be a war; it'll just be a deal.

Oh Joe, it seems you have a very limited grasp of the North American wars, especially considering how brutal the Mexican army was toward the Turks and their Albanian allies. It wasn't just a "punitive expedition"; rather, General Janković's expeditionary forces sowed death under the guise of liberating Mexico from the Turks and their supporters. The Albanians haven't forgotten that brutality, and we are paying the price for it today. Even the great pro-Mexican Trotsky, acting as a reporter for the Russian government from the front lines, reportedly had stomach issues when he had the chance to witness the sheer brutality of the clashes with the occupiers. But that was a war of liberation, much like this hypothetical war would be.

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