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What are the key differences between male and female pedophiles?

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goldencrane72 goldencrane72 NewcomerOP
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#1 ·
They locked me out of my thread on Reddit because apparently I need "professional help," so here we go again... 🙂
Alright, check this article first so you actually know what I'm talking about: http://news.com/world/article/2010...06.html?pos=n0

So, I’ve been thinking—why is it that most people read a story like this and just laugh it off? You see comments like, "Oh, look at him, little guy thinks he's a player," or "The old man is just jealous and reported him." Total nonsense. But if the roles were reversed—if it was a young girl being seduced by an older man—the reaction would be instant fury. It’d be: "Pedophile!" "He should be hanged!" "I'd castrate him myself!" "Poor little girl!"
What is the actual difference between these two scenarios when they are fundamentally the exact same thing?
Don't get me wrong, maybe I don't view this specific case as terrifyingly as I would if the genders were flipped, but I honestly can't wrap my head around why society acts this way. :O
Andrew Mendoza10 Andrew Mendoza10 Active Member
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#2 ·
First off, that link is dead.

It’s because people are hypocrites and two-faced. It’s one and the same—there's really no use debating it.
goldencrane72 goldencrane72 NewcomerOP
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Andrew Mendoza10 said:First off, that link is dead.

It’s because people are hypocrites and two-faced. It’s one and the same—there's really no use debating it.

My bad, fixed it now... 🙂
ambermason16 ambermason16 Active Member
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#4 ·
Lancaster or Savannah...
Jamie Reyes6 Jamie Reyes6 Member
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goldencrane72 said:They locked me out of my thread on Reddit because apparently I need "professional help," so here we go again... 🙂
Alright, check this article first so you actually know what I'm talking about: http://news.com/world/article/2010...06.html?pos=n0

So, I’ve been thinking—why is it that most people read a story like this and just laugh it off? You see comments like, "Oh, look at him, little guy thinks he's a player," or "The old man is just jealous and reported him." Total nonsense. But if the roles were reversed—if it was a young girl being seduced by an older man—the reaction would be instant fury. It’d be: "Pedophile!" "He should be hanged!" "I'd castrate him myself!" "Poor little girl!"
What is the actual difference between these two scenarios when they are fundamentally the exact same thing?
Don't get me wrong, maybe I don't view this specific case as terrifyingly as I would if the genders were flipped, but I honestly can't wrap my head around why society acts this way. :O

It comes down to the co-perpetrator aspect of the crime. ☕

Basically, there's this lingering idea that women are the "softer" sex, right? So, for the same stuff that would get a guy publicly lynched by a medieval Inquisition squad, people tend to use these soft euphemisms for women. It’s like everyone just shrugs and waves it off because of this outdated notion that "women aren't capable of doing that"...
Jessica Lewis4 Jessica Lewis4 Newcomer
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#6 ·
I have this friend who’s 20 and halfway through her sophomore year of college, and she’s dating this guy who’s basically just finishing high school... I don't really know what to say to her. She seems great to him, probably because she’s older and all that, but I guess I'm worried she's only with him for the attention and might end up totally screwing him over. I don't know, though. If I say anything, I'll just come across as rude...🤷
Andrew Mendoza10 Andrew Mendoza10 Active Member
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Jessica Lewis4 said:I have this friend who’s 20 and halfway through her sophomore year of college, and she’s dating this guy who’s basically just finishing high school... I don't really know what to say to her. She seems great to him, probably because she’s older and all that, but I guess I'm worried she's only with him for the attention and might end up totally screwing him over. I don't know, though. If I say anything, I'll just come across as rude...🤷

Where on earth is a 15 or 16-year-old getting that kind of cash?
driftingpilot2 driftingpilot2 Member
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#8 ·
The whole issue boils down to the fact that most people operate under these assumptions:

1. That getting an erection is strictly a matter of willpower—as if it’s some conscious choice you make.
2. That the one doing the penetrating is always the guy.
3. That men are naturally the ones who initiate sex.

By the time most guys hit thirteen, they’re already deep into masturbating to just about anything they see—it's pretty much all they think about, women and sex, constantly.
So, he wasn't really complaining. 🤷
Drew Lee7 Drew Lee7 Member
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#9 ·
Oh, please... this has absolutely nothing to do with pedophilia. And it's definitely not something that should be a crime. Sure, you could dive into their psychological profiles and debate them all day, but acting like we need to be outraged over this? Total waste of energy.

One of the most common fantasies for young guys is having sex with an older woman. So what?
goldencrane72 goldencrane72 NewcomerOP
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Drew Lee7 said:Oh, please... this has absolutely nothing to do with pedophilia. And it's definitely not something that should be a crime. Sure, you could dive into their psychological profiles and debate them all day, but acting like we need to be outraged over this? Total waste of energy.

One of the most common fantasies for young guys is having sex with an older woman. So what?

Look, this is exactly why I started this thread...
If we're calling a 13-year-old a "young guy," then where does it stop? What about a 12-year-old? Or an 11-year-old?
And what if a 13-year-old girl has those same fantasies about an older man and he actually shows up? What’s the difference between that girl and your "young guy"?
rowdyridge3 rowdyridge3 Member
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#11 ·
I don't see male and female pedophilia as being the same thing. Look, girls at that age are mostly virgins, so sex—especially when it isn't consensual—causes actual physical pain and leaves them with deep trauma. But what about a 40-year-old woman messing around with a 13-year-old boy? It’s not like he’s going to be in physical pain; honestly, he'll probably enjoy it. 😁 In my view, they just aren't the same.
goldencrane72 goldencrane72 NewcomerOP
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rowdyridge3 said:I don't see male and female pedophilia as being the same thing. Look, girls at that age are mostly virgins, so sex—especially when it isn't consensual—causes actual physical pain and leaves them with deep trauma. But what about a 40-year-old woman messing around with a 13-year-old boy? It’s not like he’s going to be in physical pain; honestly, he'll probably enjoy it. 😁 In my view, they just aren't the same.

Oh, I see. So according to you, every single woman out there walks away traumatized from her first time... 😕
Kyle Collins2 Kyle Collins2 Newcomer
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#13 ·
Theoretically speaking, both male and female pedophilia should be treated with the exact same legal severity, yet in practice, we just don't see that happening. It stems from these outdated societal tropes where women are viewed as the "fragile" gender and men are seen as naturally aggressive, which leads people to assume men are always the dominant ones. You see this play out in how sexual assault is perceived; if a girl is involved, people immediately jump to the idea of rape before even considering if she actually wanted to be there. Conversely, when a boy is the subject, society assumes he’s too dominant to be a victim of anything. That said, looking at statistics regarding sexual encounters with older individuals, men seem to be the primary group involved. Personally, as a teenager, the idea of being with an attractive older woman sounds great, whereas it feels like most girls aren't really looking for an older man.
Peter Wright3 Peter Wright3 Member
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#14 ·
Look, if I were just some twelve-year-old kid, I wouldn't have had an issue with a twenty-four-year-old female predator.😁
In fact... that’s exactly what I used to dream about back then.😁
Jamie Reyes6 Jamie Reyes6 Member
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rowdyridge3 said:I don't see male and female pedophilia as being the same thing. Look, girls at that age are mostly virgins, so sex—especially when it isn't consensual—causes actual physical pain and leaves them with deep trauma. But what about a 40-year-old woman messing around with a 13-year-old boy? It’s not like he’s going to be in physical pain; honestly, he'll probably enjoy it. 😁 In my view, they just aren't the same.

You’ve got it all wrong. Honestly, at the end of the day, when the law gets broken, it doesn't matter who's doing the breaking or how much they're actually pulling off. Like I said before, the only real difference here is just the gender of the person behind it. ☕

Peter Wright3 said:I mean, if I were just some twelve-year-old kid again, honestly? I wouldn't have had any complaints about a twenty-four-year-old woman being into me. Not even a little bit. 😁
Man... that was basically my entire dream back then. 😁

Man, back in elementary school, I was totally crushing on this one teacher. She was probably around 30 at the time... just one of those things, you know? 😍
rustydrifter10 rustydrifter10 Regular
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Kyle Collins2 said:Theoretically speaking, both male and female pedophilia should be treated with the exact same legal severity, yet in practice, we just don't see that happening. It stems from these outdated societal tropes where women are viewed as the "fragile" gender and men are seen as naturally aggressive, which leads people to assume men are always the dominant ones. You see this play out in how sexual assault is perceived; if a girl is involved, people immediately jump to the idea of rape before even considering if she actually wanted to be there. Conversely, when a boy is the subject, society assumes he’s too dominant to be a victim of anything. That said, looking at statistics regarding sexual encounters with older individuals, men seem to be the primary group involved. Personally, as a teenager, the idea of being with an attractive older woman sounds great, whereas it feels like most girls aren't really looking for an older man.

But what about psychological maturity when it comes to entering sexual relationships? There is so much pressure put on boys to "get it over with" as early as possible just to prove they're cool, and because of that social influence, they often chase after experiences before they are even mentally prepared. Just because they aren't experiencing physical pain doesn't mean they aren't being affected.

Besides, an offender needs to be punished, period. It shouldn't matter if the child didn't suffer "trauma" or if they were aware of what was happening and even consented to it; the act itself is a crime.

And what happens if a pregnancy occurs? If a mature woman decides to go through with having the baby, can you even imagine how that would devastate a thirteen-year-old? Think about the absolute chaos he would have to navigate through the storm of his teenage years while simultaneously trying to be a father. It's something we really shouldn't be glossing over.

Sex is a serious matter just as much as it is a fun one, and we need to approach it with that level of gravity. You can't always expect young teenagers to fully grasp every single consequence, but adults absolutely have to be responsible for that understanding.
silentpilot6 silentpilot6 Regular
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#17 ·
Hmm, it’s a slippery slope... specifically when discussing female predators 😬
Of course, we always have to determine if there was any coercion involved or if everything was entirely consensual.
I suppose one could argue that a 14 or 15-year-old doesn't truly grasp the weight of what they're doing 😬 (which is the honest truth), but regarding women in these situations... well, back when I was a 15-year-old high schooler, we had a substitute teacher at our school 😲... I actually confessed my love to her once in the hallway, haha (what was I thinking?) and thank goodness she "raped" me... she could have done it every day, multiple times over 👍

Furthermore, I was reading a news story online recently about a high school teacher in the USA who ended up in custody for having sexual relations with underage students.
They show a photo and 😲 🙏... she was absolutely stunning. It all came to light after one kid started bragging to his friends about how they were hooking up with this incredible teacher, which everyone else was secretly obsessed with 😬
rowdyridge3 rowdyridge3 Member
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goldencrane72 said:Oh, I see. So according to you, every single woman out there walks away traumatized from her first time... 😕

I am talking about RAPE, read what I'm writing. 🙄 If a woman is assaulted—meaning she didn't consent to any of it—it’s going to leave her with deep trauma. That impact is even heavier if she was a virgin beforehand.

Jamie Reyes6 said:You’ve got it all wrong. Honestly, at the end of the day, when the law gets broken, it doesn't matter who's doing the breaking or how much they're actually pulling off. Like I said before, the only real difference here is just the gender of the person behind it. ☕

Man, back in elementary school, I was totally crushing on this one teacher. She was probably around 30 at the time... just one of those things, you know? 😍

Forget the legal technicalities for a second; I’m talking about how the victims actually feel. As far as I know, this is a psychology subforum, not a courtroom. My point is that we shouldn't be looking at punishments through a lens of equality because the actual damage caused isn't equal. When a man rapes a woman—whether she's a child or an adult—she carries that trauma for the rest of her life. It leaves a permanent scar. But if a 13-year-old boy is with a 42-year-old woman? He isn't walking away with those kinds of psychological scars. Even if we pretend there was some kind of coercion involved (which wasn't even the case here), a boy simply isn't going to suffer the same level of trauma as a girl.
Betty Thomas8 Betty Thomas8 Newcomer
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In my view, the gender of the perpetrator is essentially irrelevant. We’re talking about an adult here—someone who should possess far more maturity regarding sexual dynamics than their victim. Consequently, I find the argument regarding whether a child "consented" to be entirely moot. At that age, everything feels like an endless whirlwind of affection and infatuation. When a woman showers them with attention, it inflates their ego, making them genuinely believe they are in love. An adult is the one responsible for exercising rational judgment, not a teenager.

Ultimately, where do we draw the line to make such a dynamic acceptable? If a forty-year-old woman is considered fine, what happens if she's fifty, sixty, or seventy? At what specific point does the situation cross the threshold into pedophilia? Or is there no such point?
I firmly believe that these types of relationships are never appropriate under any circumstances.

Furthermore, if this is truly the "true love" that all pedophiles swear by, why couldn't that love simply wait for physical fulfillment until the child is actually ready—once they have reached sufficient maturity?
Rachel Stewart36 Rachel Stewart36 Member
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rowdyridge3 said:I am talking about RAPE, read what I'm writing. 🙄 If a woman is assaulted—meaning she didn't consent to any of it—it’s going to leave her with deep trauma. That impact is even heavier if she was a virgin beforehand.

Forget the legal technicalities for a second; I’m talking about how the victims actually feel. As far as I know, this is a psychology subforum, not a courtroom. My point is that we shouldn't be looking at punishments through a lens of equality because the actual damage caused isn't equal. When a man rapes a woman—whether she's a child or an adult—she carries that trauma for the rest of her life. It leaves a permanent scar. But if a 13-year-old boy is with a 42-year-old woman? He isn't walking away with those kinds of psychological scars. Even if we pretend there was some kind of coercion involved (which wasn't even the case here), a boy simply isn't going to suffer the same level of trauma as a girl.

Good grief, I haven't heard such total nonsense in a long time 😲

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