The Enlightenment as a spiritual movement

John Jones3 said:What am I, some stranger you can just quiz for fun?
Since you're already here—I spent last night meditating and praying for my light body to show up so I could ask how enlightened I really am. It finally appeared, much to my disappointment; it wasn't even two feet wide, just a modest half-foot across—diameter, mind you, not radius.
And zero communication was possible—no words, no visions, nothing. Turns out I might have been overestimating my enlightenment a bit. But hey, let the ego do its thing.

cool. But wait, how are you even supposed to know it’s only half a meter, man? I mean, it seems kind of tough to pin down by just "looking" at it because you’d need some sort of reference point to compare it to, wouldn't you? And if it won't talk to you, I guess that’s just a sign that you’ve still got plenty of work to do, just like pretty much 99.9% of everyone else out there. You might be able to get some communication through a high, but that's super easy to mess up because your subconscious starts bleeding into everything. Only the really, really advanced folks seem to get that actual "conversational" type of connection. Another big thing is that it grows through creativity, so when a person is creatively tackling different problems and really hunting for knowledge, that process engages those energetic information sources, and that's how it expands, you know? It grows in knowledge, possibilities, and dimensions, which then loops back and helps the person grow too. I suppose spirituality falls under that umbrella of creative problem-solving.
Also, there’s this whole communication channel thing, like the air that connects it to your aura, which also acts as the bridge to your consciousness. That channel gets cleared out and strengthened when you visit energetic sites or places of power.

It doesn't matter though, I'm just glad you actually saw it so I'm not just sitting here talking nonsense on the forum. From where you are, you could probably only see it from about 300 meters away. Maybe try looking at other people's too. You'll see anything from the size of a picnic basket to something relatively large, and they can be all sorts of colors, like yellow or even reddish. And if you ever find yourself at one of those power spots, you might see hundreds of them clustered together up at like 200 or 300 meters in the sky.

John Jones3 said:Then how do you distinguish between what happens in a week versus two weeks, or today versus tomorrow? If everything is just "now," pinning down a specific future event seems impossible.🤷

Ah, I honestly thought you had already grasped this concept! 😍

Everything is simply "now," not "today." This means that even a future event is unfolding at this very instant! 😉

I know exactly what is going to happen because I am the creator of my own reality. Sometimes, God steps in and makes things even better than I could have ever imagined! 😁

Even the past is unfolding right now; we are operating at the quantum level.

Gregory Jackson said:So, I guess I’ll just throw out a little something trivial here too, just to see what everyone thinks, you know? Like, maybe...

So, I guess you're wondering what kind of monitor I'm currently staring at all day? Honestly, I haven't really thought about it much lately, but if I remember correctly, it’s a Dell—just one of those reliable ones you can always count on when you're deep in a rabbit hole, I suppose.
So, I was just sitting here thinking about that question—you know, wondering which countries actually hold the keys to the kingdom when it comes to the company I work for? It’s kind of a trip when you really stop to mull it over, I guess. Like, you go into your shift, grab your coffee, and just assume everything is local, but then you realize the whole ownership structure is this massive, complicated web stretching across the map. I mean, maybe it's just one big American conglomerate, or maybe there are pieces of it owned by folks halfway across the world, but honestly, it's hard to say for sure without digging through all those boring corporate filings, right? It makes you feel sort of small, thinking about how much global influence is tucked away behind a simple office door, but hey, that's just how the world works these days, I suppose!
So, I was just sitting here thinking about all this cosmic stuff, and I started wondering, like, what am I actually according to my horoscope? I guess I should probably check my birth chart or something to see which sign I fall under, you know? It’s kind of funny how much people obsess over those zodiac signs and whether they’re a Leo or a Scorpio or whatever, but maybe there's some truth to it buried in there somewhere, who knows? I'm honestly just curious to see if my personality actually lines up with what the stars say about me!

I mean, if you ask me, for someone like him, this probably shouldn't even be a struggle, I guess.

a) LG
b) Germany
c) Aquarius

fadedskipper52 said:a) LG
b) Germany
c) Aquarius

Wait, so are you actually Immortal or what?

Gregory Jackson said:Wait, so are you actually Immortal or what?

Me, you, and John Jones3 too!

fadedskipper52 said:Me, you, and John Jones3 too!

Look, I get it, really, but maybe you shouldn't have jumped in like that. Now you've basically just handed everything to him on a silver platter.

Gregory Jackson said:Look, I get it, really, but maybe you shouldn't have jumped in like that. Now you've basically just handed everything to him on a silver platter.

I honestly think it’s high time he finally sees the light.😁

Gregory Jackson said:cool. But wait, how are you even supposed to know it’s only half a meter, man? I mean, it seems kind of tough to pin down by just "looking" at it because you’d need some sort of reference point to compare it to, wouldn't you? And if it won't talk to you, I guess that’s just a sign that you’ve still got plenty of work to do, just like pretty much 99.9% of everyone else out there. You might be able to get some communication through a high, but that's super easy to mess up because your subconscious starts bleeding into everything. Only the really, really advanced folks seem to get that actual "conversational" type of connection. Another big thing is that it grows through creativity, so when a person is creatively tackling different problems and really hunting for knowledge, that process engages those energetic information sources, and that's how it expands, you know? It grows in knowledge, possibilities, and dimensions, which then loops back and helps the person grow too. I suppose spirituality falls under that umbrella of creative problem-solving.
Also, there’s this whole communication channel thing, like the air that connects it to your aura, which also acts as the bridge to your consciousness. That channel gets cleared out and strengthened when you visit energetic sites or places of power.

It doesn't matter though, I'm just glad you actually saw it so I'm not just sitting here talking nonsense on the forum. From where you are, you could probably only see it from about 300 meters away. Maybe try looking at other people's too. You'll see anything from the size of a picnic basket to something relatively large, and they can be all sorts of colors, like yellow or even reddish. And if you ever find yourself at one of those power spots, you might see hundreds of them clustered together up at like 200 or 300 meters in the sky.

Yeah, just a guess—I have an armchair here that’s about half a meter wide, so it's roughly that size. You've actually piqued my interest regarding this Ljubis guy—or rather, I've piqued my own interest; I need to head over to his site and read everything he's put out. I tried the Peace meditation and it definitely works for me—no doubt about it.

John Jones3 said:Yeah, just a guess—I have an armchair here that’s about half a meter wide, so it's roughly that size. You've actually piqued my interest regarding this Ljubis guy—or rather, I've piqued my own interest; I need to head over to his site and read everything he's put out. I tried the Peace meditation and it definitely works for me—no doubt about it.

So, that website is actually run by a couple of his more advanced spiritual students. He’s a total layman when it comes to the technical side of things, too—he doesn't even own a smartphone. I don't think he's ever even actually visited the site himself, if that makes sense.

You should check out www.objave.com and look for those two meditations right on the homepage—Andromeda and Orion. They basically activate energies from centers located out there. Just set it to full screen and crank up your speakers. The first time you try it, you'll probably find yourself just staring, trying to visualize what those energies actually look like, but after a while, I think it's better to just close your eyes and focus on what you're feeling. Maybe don't do it more than once a day, though. These are taken from a DVD by Ljubis and another enlightened guy, Dejan Dimitrijevic, who helps manage the site.

Thanks, I took a look—seems interesting enough.