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Can you actually change your personality as an adult?

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Participants rapidgull3Joshua Evans7Patrick Wright2casualtrucker7Rebecca Scott3silverranger742Nicole Miller5copperfox22Edward Murphy4Maria Ross12Larry Ward69Peter Baker57Lawrence Allen49Matthew Castillo5Sam HayesRachel Garciadarkorca96Harold Perez24Richard CarterJerry Martinez5dustytrucker4James Chavez6Jose BarrettPeter Wright3 …
rapidgull3 rapidgull3 MemberOP
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#1 ·
Is an adult's personality truly unchangeable because it’s a biological fact, or just because people lack the patience to try and retrain them? If the former is true, then the behaviors we picked up as kids are essentially set in stone for life. It would mean the old saying "a leopard can't change its spots" is actually right, reducing us to nothing more than our genetic programming. But if it's the latter—if we just stop trying—then that’s a pretty depressing thought.
Joshua Evans7 Joshua Evans7 Active Member
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#2 ·
I suppose people are constantly evolving, learning, and making mistakes throughout their entire lives; day in and day out. ☕
Patrick Wright2 Patrick Wright2 Active Member
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#3 ·
Look, people just don't change, at least nothing massive enough for anyone to actually notice, and honestly, they might try to camouflage themselves or throw on some masks and play a part just to make it harder for you to see who they really are, but deep down that core personality is always sitting right there, totally constant and unshakeable, maybe just slightly polished around the edges, but that's really all there is to it.
casualtrucker7 casualtrucker7 Member
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#4 ·
Well, according to Freud—the pedagogical window where real change is actually possible lasts from age three to maybe five at the latest. After that, I guess we’re stuck with andragogy—basically just mimicking behaviors in others that seem useful to us. As adults, we tend to resist being taught anything unless we've personally tested the waters ourselves (maybe we eventually start trusting only our own experiences, or perhaps we just need some big authority figure to tell us how to act before we'll actually listen).

And I agree—change is constant within us, no matter how much we convince ourselves we're already set in our ways and impossible to budge.
Rebecca Scott3 Rebecca Scott3 Active Member
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joined Jan 2009
#5 ·
...realization can truly change a person.....
...but honestly, how many adults actually experience that kind of epiphany during their lifetime? It’s rare....
...it feels like most people just fall into two camps: the overachievers who never stop grinding, or those who just kind of coast through life without ever really picking up the lesson....
silverranger742 silverranger742 Newcomer
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#6 ·
Yeah, I’m with Rebecca Scott3 on this one—realizing the truth is the only way things actually shift. But even then, people cling to their old ways because they're terrified of change, even when there's something new burning inside them. Honestly, most problems stem from that exact fear of breaking away from the status quo.
Nicole Miller5 Nicole Miller5 Member
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#7 ·
Sure, I guess. Honestly, I feel like my entire personality is shifting right now.
copperfox22 copperfox22 Active Member
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#8 ·
If you ask me, the core essence of things always stays the same. Everything else? That’s just subject to change—whether it's an upgrade or just tearing down what was already there.
Edward Murphy4 Edward Murphy4 Active Member
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rapidgull3 said:Is an adult's personality truly unchangeable because it’s a biological fact, or just because people lack the patience to try and retrain them? If the former is true, then the behaviors we picked up as kids are essentially set in stone for life. It would mean the old saying "a leopard can't change its spots" is actually right, reducing us to nothing more than our genetic programming. But if it's the latter—if we just stop trying—then that’s a pretty depressing thought.



Why does it even bother you so much? That whole "we're basically just animals" thing—which, let's be real, is pretty much a mathematical certainty—is clearly weighing on you.😕 So you actually want to believe you belong to some kind of superior race at a top-tier civilization level? Please. 🤷

Well, looks like I was wrong. My bad.😉
Maria Ross12 Maria Ross12 Newcomer
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#10 ·
It is incredibly difficult to fundamentally alter an adult's personality. First, we have to address a crucial question: even if changes occur that are statistically significant, are they actually perceptible on a subjective or social level? In other words, does the individual themselves notice the shift, or does their inner circle see it too?

In my view, personality traits only truly shift under two specific circumstances:
a) following a severe psychological trauma
b) through the process of brainwashing.

Outside of those extremes, meaningful change is rare. Granted, studies show that a person at age 70 isn't quite the same human being they were at 18. However, that is largely the byproduct of external factors—shifting environments, moving to different cities, changing social circles, or simply the biological reality of aging. But when you look at the window between, say, ages 35 and 45, any such shifts are virtually imperceptible.
Larry Ward69 Larry Ward69 Newcomer
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#11 ·
Not really
Peter Baker57 Peter Baker57 Member
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#12 ·
I feel for them, I really do, but my experience tells me one thing: absolutely not.
Lawrence Allen49 Lawrence Allen49 Member
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#13 ·
rapidgull3 said:Is an adult's personality truly unchangeable because it’s a biological fact, or just because people lack the patience to try and retrain them? If the former is true, then the behaviors we picked up as kids are essentially set in stone for life. It would mean the old saying "a leopard can't change its spots" is actually right, reducing us to nothing more than our genetic programming. But if it's the latter—if we just stop trying—then that’s a pretty depressing thought.

Change is possible, sure. But you’d need to actually shift their environment and circumstances to make it stick. Adults don't learn through idealism or big visions like kids do; they react to what’s happening right in front of them—their life experience and the grind of reality.

That's probably where the phrase "you're too young for that" comes from.

Most people start out full of optimism, thinking they'll conquer the world. Then they hit 50 and spend most days looking in the rearview mirror, obsessing over youthful mistakes that steered them away from their original plans. They just live—and realize—within those limitations every single day.
Usually, that’s why someone is labeled "troubled." If you want to "un-trouble" them, you're looking at a massive undertaking. You have to dig through layers of their past, earn enough trust to get them to actually open up, and then use some pretty sharp rhetoric and wisdom to dismantle that tiny, fragile ego in their head—the one built on skewed logic that keeps dragging them down.

People who actually pulled off their dreams tend to be happy when they get older. Those who didn't? They’re usually a bit "off," stuck in this constant loop of self-analysis and internal turmoil.

If the person is fundamentally disordered—meaning their very perception of reality is warped—then the job gets much harder. But hey, it's not impossible.

Though, if I'm being honest, I think for most adult women, it’s basically impossible. Men might eventually bend toward change, but women tend to hold onto their instincts way too tightly to let anyone else interfere.

So, if that "troubled person" happens to be a woman, you might as well not bother.
Matthew Castillo5 Matthew Castillo5 Regular
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#14 ·
Lawrence Allen49 said:Change is possible, sure. But you’d need to actually shift their environment and circumstances to make it stick. Adults don't learn through idealism or big visions like kids do; they react to what’s happening right in front of them—their life experience and the grind of reality.

That's probably where the phrase "you're too young for that" comes from.

Most people start out full of optimism, thinking they'll conquer the world. Then they hit 50 and spend most days looking in the rearview mirror, obsessing over youthful mistakes that steered them away from their original plans. They just live—and realize—within those limitations every single day.
Usually, that’s why someone is labeled "troubled." If you want to "un-trouble" them, you're looking at a massive undertaking. You have to dig through layers of their past, earn enough trust to get them to actually open up, and then use some pretty sharp rhetoric and wisdom to dismantle that tiny, fragile ego in their head—the one built on skewed logic that keeps dragging them down.

People who actually pulled off their dreams tend to be happy when they get older. Those who didn't? They’re usually a bit "off," stuck in this constant loop of self-analysis and internal turmoil.

If the person is fundamentally disordered—meaning their very perception of reality is warped—then the job gets much harder. But hey, it's not impossible.

Though, if I'm being honest, I think for most adult women, it’s basically impossible. Men might eventually bend toward change, but women tend to hold onto their instincts way too tightly to let anyone else interfere.

So, if that "troubled person" happens to be a woman, you might as well not bother.

Look, sorry, but I don't buy that for a second. Hardly anyone is willing to overhaul their entire personality unless there's some massive internal or external motivation driving them, and I really don't see gender playing any significant role in that equation.
Sam Hayes Sam Hayes Active Member
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#15 ·
A polished stone is still just a stone, I suppose—but I wouldn't go so far as to compare a person's soul or their core personality to a rock... or even a wolf... personally, I believe that true change, or at least some kind of deep transformation, is actually possible. Things might not be perfectly aligned right now, but through sheer willpower and hard work, one can certainly evolve...
Rachel Garcia Rachel Garcia Active Member
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#16 ·
It’s impossible. Personality is forged over a lifetime.

Even core convictions—political leanings, life philosophies... they don't actually shift. They merely soften or drift toward the extreme.

While scrolling through the political threads on this forum, I’ve noticed several users arguing that certain American politicians or public figures have fundamentally changed their personalities or values in their 40s or 50s.
In my experience, that simply isn't how it works.

As the old saying goes, you can change your look, but you can't change your soul.
darkorca96 darkorca96 Newcomer
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#17 ·
Reading what Lawrence Allen49 wrote, it seems to suggest that when life is going smoothly, we rarely bother with the whole "personality" deep dive. I couldn't agree more. It usually takes some sort of significant shake-up—a real gut punch—before we even start asking who we actually are, what we stand for, or why we turn out the way we do (speaking from experience😢).

Digging through the past is fine, I suppose, provided the goal is understanding our own makeup. But personally? That excavation can go on forever. It’s much simpler just to accept yourself as you are. Though, there's a catch: most of us don't even realize who we actually are😕
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There’s this psychological theory suggesting we all have five core needs wired into our DNA: survival, love and belonging, power, autonomy, and stimulation. If you can figure out how much weight you give to each one, you’ll pretty much have a blueprint of your identity.

Personality dictates our actions; we tend to act in alignment with our nature when things get real. You can't fundamentally rewrite your personality, but you can certainly adjust your behavior. And let’s be clear: changing how you act isn't just putting on an act, as long as you're doing it to improve your own life. So, it's not about other people, it's about ourselves.

One more thing (not my thought, but I'm on board): the only person you truly have any control over is yourself. I'd add, unfortunately😢
Harold Perez24 Harold Perez24 Newcomer
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#18 ·
Oh, absolutely xD—I mean, there's really no way around it, they definitely have to be swapped out
Richard Carter Richard Carter Newcomer
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#19 ·
It's a difficult question, though I suppose it ultimately comes down to the individual...
Jerry Martinez5 Jerry Martinez5 Regular
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#20 ·
darkorca96 said:Reading what Lawrence Allen49 wrote, it seems to suggest that when life is going smoothly, we rarely bother with the whole "personality" deep dive. I couldn't agree more. It usually takes some sort of significant shake-up—a real gut punch—before we even start asking who we actually are, what we stand for, or why we turn out the way we do (speaking from experience😢).

Digging through the past is fine, I suppose, provided the goal is understanding our own makeup. But personally? That excavation can go on forever. It’s much simpler just to accept yourself as you are. Though, there's a catch: most of us don't even realize who we actually are😕
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There’s this psychological theory suggesting we all have five core needs wired into our DNA: survival, love and belonging, power, autonomy, and stimulation. If you can figure out how much weight you give to each one, you’ll pretty much have a blueprint of your identity.

Personality dictates our actions; we tend to act in alignment with our nature when things get real. You can't fundamentally rewrite your personality, but you can certainly adjust your behavior. And let’s be clear: changing how you act isn't just putting on an act, as long as you're doing it to improve your own life. So, it's not about other people, it's about ourselves.

One more thing (not my thought, but I'm on board): the only person you truly have any control over is yourself. I'd add, unfortunately😢

As for how others perceive us: is it based on "personality" or behavior? Obviously, it's behavior. And that is something you can actually change.

I don't even know what counts as "personality." There might be some core essence that stays the same forever, but there is a massive amount of stuff that is subject to change. Someone could be a lazy college student who lives for the party scene, then turn around and become 100% dedicated to their career. They could be a terrible son and later become a devoted father. How many times have you heard: "The war changed him completely." Or—he fell apart when his wife left him. Or—he turned his life around after he quit his job.

I think people have the capacity to change. Some take advantage of it, some don't, and some are forced into it by outside circumstances.

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